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OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS BELONGING TO THE SECRETARY GENERAL, KOFI ANNAN, INCLUDING E-MAIL AND PHONE RECORDS. WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR? >> WE, GENERALLY,...
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ABOUT A CONTRACT FOR A SWISS COMPANY THAT EMPLOYED KOFI ANNAN'S SON AND MR. VOELKER, HEAD OF YOUR COMMISSION, SAID THAT THIS NEW INFORMATION HAD LED...
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SON. WERE THOSE TO HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS INTERIM REPORT? >> Caller: THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE PROCUREMENT OF COTECNA AND...
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IT'S CERTAINLY OUR EXPECTATION THAT THAT REPORT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC, WELL, CERTAINLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S LIKELY TO BE A MATTER OF WEEKS, NOT...
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IT'S COMPLEX AND OUR INVESTIGATORS AND WE HAVE OVER 80 OF THEM IN THE OFFICE ARE GOING THROUGH LITERALLY THROUGH MILLIONS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS FROM...
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INTO OUR COMPUTER PROGRAM. MANY, MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE INTERVIEWED INNi MANY COUNTRIES IN EUROPE, IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SO IT'S REALLY A HUGE INVESTIGATION,...
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SAVAN. TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT HIM SO FAR. >> WE FOUND CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT HE SOLICITED OIL ALLOCATIONS FROM THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT...
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PUT SAVON INTO A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. HE WAS REPRESENTING THE UNITED NATIONS OSTENSIBLY BUT RECEIVING A BENEFIT WHETHER HE...
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ESTABLISHED THE CONCLUSIONS THAT WE'VE EXPRESSED. >> Host: HERE'S JUST A PORTION OF THE REPORT. PART ONE DEALING WITH
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BENIN SEVAN AND OIL ALLOCATIONS. WE'RE TALKING WITH JUDGE RICHARD GOLDSTONE, A MEMBER OF THE INDEPENDENT INQUIRY COMMITTEE REGARDING THE U.N. OIL-FOR-FOOD...
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POLICIES CALL 202-6280205, IF YOU SUPPORT DEMOCRATS, 202-737-0002, OUR INTERNATIONAL LINE, 202-62-0184. TELL US MORE ABOUT THE INQUIRY COMMITTEE. THERE...
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LEAST ONE, POSSIBLERY MORE INTERIM REPORTS. BECAUSE WE WANT TO REPORT AS SOON AS WE'VE COMPLETED ANY PARTICULAR SECTOR OF OUR INVESTIGATION. WE'RE LOOKING...
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WHICH
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WAS
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CALLED THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS SET UP UNDER
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THE RESOLUTION OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL. THE 62 OF COMMITTEE. AND SOLE THERE ARE VARIOUS AREAS WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO I THINK YOU CAN EXPECT ONE OR ...
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| 00:06:02 |
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THIS HORRIBLE EXERCISE, SHOULD COME OUT STRONGER AND THAT THE UNITED NATIONS WILL PUT IN PLACE AUDITING, ACCOUNTING AND OTHER SAFEGUARDS
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TO AVOID THIS SORT OF THING HAPPENING AGAIN. >> LET'S GO TO CAUSES FOR JUDGE RICHARD GOLDSTONE, BURLINGTON, VERMONT, YOU'RE UP FIRST. >> Caller: I'Mco...
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WHAT'S THAT GOING TO ACHIEVE? IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM AROUND
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THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS ISSUE AND HAVING CONTROL POINTS IN PLACE TO ENSURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. IT'S GREAT THAT WE'LL GO AFTER THESE MEN...
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JUST
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CONCERNED ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION IN THE KOFI ANNAN BECAUSE HE HAS A BIG TARGET ON HIS BACK. EVEN IF HE'S NOT INVOLVED. AND WE GOT PRESIDENT
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BUSH AND
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HALLIBURTON AND DICK CHENEY IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION, I DO BELIEVE, FOR WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD OF HALLIBURTON. NOW, BRINGS ME BACK TO...
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GOLDSTONE. WHAT IS THE U.N. OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM? WHEN WAS IT PUT TOGETHER AND WHEN DID FOLKS START REALIZING THERE MAY HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS WITH THE...
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THE OIL SANCTIONS AND THE COMPLETE SANCTIONS AND EMBARGOES WHICH HAD BEEN PLACEDDED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON IRAQ WAS CAUSING TREMENDOUS HARDSHIPS...
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| 00:09:04 |
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AND CHILDREN IN THE STREETS OF IRAQ. THEY WERE NOT GETTING HUMANITARIAN GOODS, NOT MEDICINE. AND THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SUGGESTED AND THE UNITED...
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PROGRAM. AND THAT WAS IN BREACH OF THE UNITED NATIONS' RESOLUTION DEALING WITH THE OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM. THAT BECAME PUBLIC, AND REALLY NOTHING
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WAS DONE ABOUT IT. POLITICALLY, IT WAS JUST ACCEPTED THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING AND THERE WAS NO HUE AND CRY SET UP IN THE SECURITY COUNCIL AND CLEARLY...
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INDEPENDENT INQUIRY ON COSO VA, CHAKED IN SOUTH AFRICA. YOU'RE FROM THAT COUNTRY. >> YES, I AM INDEED. >> Host: ATLANTA GEORGIA, THANKS FOR WAITING,...
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UNITED STATES DURING THE
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CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. >> Caller: I SEE. >> IT WAS A SUGGESTION
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THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ADMINISTRATION
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PUT TO THE UNITED NATIONS. >> Caller: HERE'S MY QUESTION.
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IN 2000, THE OUTGOING PRESIDENT, BILL CLINTON,
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PARDONED A MAN NAMED MARK
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RICH. HE WAS A FUGITIVE FROM JUSTICE IN THE UNITED
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STATES. I UNDERSTAND HIS NAME HAS
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SURFACED AS A BROKER OF SOME OF THIS GRAFT AND CORRUPTION IN
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EUROPE FOR THE OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM. IS THERE ANY TRUTH TO THAT? >> CERTAINLY HIS NAME FEATURES IN RELATION TO A CORPORATION THAT WAS INVOLVED IN OIL...
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GOOD MORNING TO YOU. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING, MR. GOLDSTONE. YOU'VE PARTIALLY ANSWERED TWO OF THE STATEMENTS WHICH I'D LIKE TO MAKE. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF...
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THE NATIONS
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OF JORDAN AND TURKEY IN DEFIANCE OF THE UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS, SELLING IT AT A DUS COUNT WITH THE MONEY GOING DIRECTLY TO SADDAM HUSSEIN'S TREASURY....
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HAS BEEN CLEAR FOR A LONG TIME,
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THAT THE OIL SMUGGLING TO WHICH I REFERRED WAS GOING ON. WE ARE INVESTIGATING STILL AND CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS AND INTERVIEWS WITH REGARD TO THE...
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BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THEM AND
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HOW LONG IS THE INVESTIGATION GOING TO LAST? THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> WELL, THE INVESTIGATION, WE CERTAINLY HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE WILL BE CONCLUDED, I...
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COMMISSION. BUT
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CERTAINLY, THE EVIDENCE WE'RE MAKING PUBLIC WOULD BE, I WOULD IMAGINE, USEFUL FOR PROSECUTING AUTHORITIES. IN ANY COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES...
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| 00:16:22 |
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COMMITTEES. THEY'RE REALLY DOING TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE CONGRESS IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONDUCT OF THE UNITED STATES....
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| 00:16:33 |
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STATES NATIONALS WHERE THE GOVERNMENTAL OR NONGOVERNMENTAL UNITED STATES CORPORATIONS. IT'S OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE UNITED...
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SAID, WHAT'S HIS NAME, SAVON. WHERE IS HE FROM. >> HE'S
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FROM CYPRESS AND BEEN AN OFFICIAL AT THE UNITED NATIONS FOR SOMETHING LIKE 40 YEARS. >> Caller: THE OTHER QUESTION I WANNED TO KNOW, IS THIS MAN THAT...
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HIS COMPANY IN THE CONTEXT OF OIL PURCHASES. >>
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Host: ANYTHING ELSE, CALLER? >> Caller: PARDON ME? >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> Caller: YEAH, HOW DOES THIS ALL APPLY TO THE WAR, TO OUR GETTING INVOLVED WITH...
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US, WE KNEW ALL THISED BA STUFF WAS GOING ON BUT WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY IN THE UNITED
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NATIONS
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TO
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ACTUALLY SUPPORT US
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TO GO IN TO TAKE THESE GUYS OUT. HOW DOES THIS HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO YOU KNOW, OUR GOING TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND ASKING THEM FOR HELP TO GET RID...
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CLEAN ITSELF UP TO USE A PHRASE
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OF SOME HERE IN TOWN? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE SECRETARY GENERAL IS
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INTENT ON, AS YOU SAY, CLEANING IT UP. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE AND I'M CONFIDENT IT'S GOING TO BE DONE. THE UNITED NATIONS HAS TO EXIST. IF IT DIDN'T...
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TO GO ABOUT THEIR ORDINARY DAILY BUSINESS WITH THIS HANGING OVER THEIR HEADS. BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S THIS HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE BY MANY WONDERFUL...
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| 00:19:45 |
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TWO POINTS TO
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SAY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM WAS THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED ONLY AFTER THE FACT THAT THE UNITED
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NATIONS WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE IRAQ WAR. THAT'S POINT NUMBER ONE. BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THERE HAS BEEN
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| 00:20:01 |
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SO
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MANY
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| 00:20:03 |
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OF THESE TRANSACTIONS AND NONE OF THEM HAS MADE ANY
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HEADLINES. >> Host: LET ME STOP YOU THERE. WE'LL KEEP YOU ON THE LINE. LET'S GET A PONS TO THE FIRST QUESTION. WAS THERE A CONNECTION, JUDGE, TO THE...
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HAVE ANY INSIDE INFORMATION OR PARTICULAR EXPERTISE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO. >> Host: HOUSTON. >> Caller: OKAY....
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THERE HAS BEEN VERY MISLINED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AMOUNT OF CORRUPTION THAT'S GOING ON WITH VIS-A-VIS AMERICAN COMPANIES
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AND
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AMERICAN INDIVIDUALS ARE SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT HAVE THE OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM. THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM, THAT IS SUCCESSFUL IN...
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THE AMOUNT THAT WAS SKIMMED
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OFF, AND IT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT THA WAS SKIMMED OFF. WHICH WENT INTO THE POCKETS OF SADDAM HUSSEIN AND HIS LIEUTENANTS. >> Host: COLUMBUS, OHIO, GOOD...
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CALL. NEW YORK CITY, YOU'RE
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UP NOW.
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HELLO. NEW YORK, ARE
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YOU THERE? ONE LAST CHANCE, NEW YORK ARE YOU THERE. >> Caller: YES, THIS IS NEW YORK CITY. THANK YOU FOR C-SPAN. I HAVE
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| 00:22:23 |
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A QUESTION AND COMMENT. MY COMMENT IS THAT THE UNITED NATIONS SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN FAR AFIELD OF ITS ORIGINAL MISSION WHICH WAS TO ENSURE THAT DEMOCRACY...
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AND THE HEALTH PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN CITED. BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE UNITED NATIONS IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE CONCERNED ON THE MONEY ISSUES. THERE'S NO...
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ON THE COUNCIL. THE UNITED NATIONS' OFFICIALS CAN DO VERY LITTLE MORE THAN
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THEY ARE ALLOW TO DO BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AND THOSE LEADING NATIONS. SECONDLY, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF MONEY. THE UNITED NATIONS IS CONCERNED ABOUT...
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| 00:24:38 |
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HELLO. AND THAT FAY, NEW MEXICO.
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SANTA FE, ARE YOU THERE? >> Caller: HELLO. >> Host: HI. >> Caller: HI. >> Host: GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> Caller: HELLO. >> Host:
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| 00:24:49 |
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HI. >> HELLO. >> Caller: HI. I HAVE A SHORT STATEMENT AND A QUESTION TO ASK OF JUDGE GOLDSTONE.
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I THINK THAT BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS SHOULD WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES. WE ARE IN SERIOUS CONDITION IN THIS COUNTRY. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE...
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| 00:25:05 |
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KODAK
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HE
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WILL LEM MEN TEAR
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RIS BILL THAT
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INTRODUCES THE BANNING
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| 00:25:10 |
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OF ALL VITAMINS ON THE SHELVES IN AMERICA AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY BUT WE HAVE A REAL SERIOUS TROJAN HORSE ON OUR HANDS....
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THE PROBLEM IS THE
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GOVERNMENT OFnr THE SUDAN,
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BECAUSE IT IS A DICTATORIAL GOVERNMENT
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| 00:26:14 |
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RECENTLY A WEEK AGO, THEY KILLED 34 PERSONS INNi THE EASTERN PART OF THE SUDAN IN THE REGION OF THE RED SEA. I WISH IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THIS AND...
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| 00:26:57 |
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MAGTYITUDE, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. IT'S MADE A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFER THIS MATTER FOR...
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| 00:27:50 |
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OIL-FOR-FOOD PROGRAM AND AS I SAID EARLIER, INCLUDING THE ROLE OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL, THE SECRETARIAT, THE ROLE OF THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT, AND OTHER...
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| 00:28:05 |
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INVESTIGATIONNi ARE COMPLETE AND THE FINAL REPORT CERTAINLY IN THE SUMMER DEALING WITH ALL OF THESE ASPECTS. JUDGE RICHARD GOLDSTONE SAY MEMBER OF...
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Host: WE ARE JOINED BY THE U.S. REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KURDISTAN REGIONAL GOVERNMENT, NIJYAR SHEMDIN. APPRECIATE
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