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THEIR SPONSORSHIP OF THIS EVENT AND THEY WILL ALSO BE IN THE ADJACENT HALL AFTERWARDS SELLING BOOKS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME C-SPAN WHO IS TAPING...
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APPLAUSE] >> THANK
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YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T THINK THAT I COULD BE IN A WORSE POSITION -- >> YOU NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THE MIKE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT I COULD BE...
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| 00:02:28 |
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FRANK RICH'S COLUMN WAS NOT IN THE NEWSPAPER. MY HUSBAND TURNS
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TO ME. WE WANTED IT KNOW WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE
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| 00:02:35 |
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ELECTION. WE OPENED UP THE PAPER, YOU'RE
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| 00:02:37 |
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NOT IN IT. MY HUSBAND SAYS TO ME I HOPE
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| 00:02:41 |
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THAT'S NOT BECAUSE HE'S BUSY PREPARING FOR THE INTERVIEW WITH YOU. [LAUGHTER] >>
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| 00:02:47 |
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WELL, THAT'S WHY. NO. ANYWAY. GOOD EVENING. >> MY HUSBAND WAS VERY ANNOYED THAT YOU WEREN'T THERE. >> I WANT TO BEGIN, ACTUALLY, WITH A QUOTE FROM YOUR...
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| 00:03:08 |
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PROTECTIVE INSTINCT FOR JEWS OF MY
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| 00:03:14 |
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PARENTS' AGE. YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOUR PARENTS DON'T
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| 00:03:18 |
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LIKE YOU TO REVEAL YOURSELF AT ALL AND I ASSUME THAT WE'RE DISCONCERTED BY THE PROFESSION THAT YOU WENT INTO, BUT EXPLAIN -- THERE MUST AB PSYCHOLOGICAL...
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| 00:03:56 |
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HAS LESS TO DO WITH MY PARENTS AND THEIR SENSE OF PRIVACY THAN IT DOES WITH THEIR -- LIKE LOVING BOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND ALWAYS WANTING TO KNOW...
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| 00:04:08 |
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BEHIND THE STORY. WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN THE
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LINES? AND
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I THINK AS MY OWN SENSE OF PRIVACY -- AND I'M MUCH DIFFERENT THAN I USED TO BE. I USED TO BE COMPULSIVELY AFRAID TO REVEAL MYSELF WHEN INTERVIEWED. I'M...
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| 00:05:37 |
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I WAS BORN IN 1951.
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I
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GREW
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UP WITH TOP
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| 00:05:44 |
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1940 RADIO. I USED TO
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| 00:05:46 |
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LOVE MURRAY KAY WHEN HE TALKED OVER THE INSTRUMENTAL AND STOP DEAD RIGHT AT THE PART BEFORE THE VOCALS STARTED. THAT WAS MY IDEA OF GREAT RADIO. I...
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| 00:06:24 |
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I LITERALLY FELL INTO RADIO. MY FIRST CAREER WAS TEACHING EIGHTH GRADE ENGLISH
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| 00:06:31 |
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IN
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BUFFALO, NEW YORK'S TOUGHEST CITY. I WAS FIRED IN SIX WEEKS. THAT'S HOW GOOD I WAS. >> WHY? >> I WAS NO TALLER THAN I AM TODAY. I WAS MUCH YOUNGER
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| 00:06:45 |
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THAN. I LOOKED YOUNGER THAN THE STUDENTS. SO IT WOULD BE CHAOS IN THE CLASSROOM IF THEY WENT INTO THE CLASSROOM. USUALLY THEY WERE IN THE HALLWAY....
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| 00:07:00 |
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WHERE'S THE TEACHER? AND
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| 00:07:02 |
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I WOULD GO, I'M THE TEACHER. ONE DAY THE SUPERVISOR FROM THE BOARD OF EDUCATION CAME TO CHECK ME OUT. HE WAS THERE AND THE STUDENTS KNEW THAT THE...
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| 00:08:12 |
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BACKGROUNDS. I WAS FROM A STRUCTURED BACKGROUND. I NEEDED ANARCHY. I NEED THAT
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| 00:08:19 |
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THE STRUCTURE THEY NEEDED WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS UNCAPABLE OF PROVIDING AND THE ANARCHY THAT I NEEDED WAS ALL WRONG FOR THEIR NEEDS. I WOULD HAVE...
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| 00:08:57 |
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AIR." TO SKIP THROUGH SOME OF THAT, HOW DID "FRESH AIR" COME TO BE
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| 00:09:02 |
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SOMEWHAT INTO YOUR RADIO CAREER? >> I BASICALLY INHERITED "FRESH AIR." IT EXIST ADD YEAR OR TWO BEFORE
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| 00:09:10 |
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I GOT THERE. IT WAS A SHOW WHERE THERE WOULD BE THREE, FOUR MINUTES OF INTERVIEWS AND MOSTLY CLASSICAL MUSIC. I WAS THIRED HOST AND PRODUCE IT. SO THE...
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| 00:09:26 |
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FEW HOURS A WEEK. THE FIRST THING I DID WAS GET RID OF THE CLASSICAL MUSIC AND PLAY JAZZ AND BLUES AND A LITTLE BIT OF ROCK AND THE LISTENERS WERE...
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| 00:10:28 |
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PROBLEM. THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT RADIO. FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE MUSIC. WHEN I HAVE ON
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| 00:10:34 |
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A MUSICIAN, I CAN FLARE RECORDS. COULD YOU ARGUE IF IT WAS A TV SHOW, THEY COULD PERFORM. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY NOT PERFORM
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| 00:10:43 |
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THAT EASILY. AND IT IS GREAT TO PLAY MUSIC, PLAY FAVORITE RECORDS AND SO ON. I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IDEAS A LOT. AND IT'S HARD -- I THINK THAT IT IS...
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| 00:12:05 |
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SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU'LL BE TALLER -- I MEAN LARGER THAN LIFE IF THEY LIKE THE SHOW. AND I'M SMALLER THAN LIFE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE...
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| 00:12:18 |
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YOU'RE JUST NOT IT. WHETHER IT IS YOU'RE BETTER OR WORSE THAN WHAT THEY EXPECTED OR TALLER OR SHORTER OR THINNER OR FATTER, YOU'RE NOT IT. YOU'RE NOT...
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| 00:13:05 |
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HOW DOES THAT WORK? DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU OR AGAINST YOU? >> SOMETIMES I THINK THAT IT WORKS FOR ME. PARTICULARLY IF I HAVE TO ASK CHALLENGING QUESTIONS...
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| 00:13:29 |
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INTELLECTUAL COWARD IT IS EASIER TO ASK A CHALLENGING QUESTION WHEN THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A WITHERING LOOK OR THEY CAN'T LOOK AT YOU IN A WOUNDED WAY...
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| 00:14:10 |
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MICROPHONE. THE PERSONAL
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| 00:14:12 |
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INSECURITIES WHEN I DO AN INTERVIEW FALL AWAY. I'M THERE TO DO A JOB AND I WILL DO THE BEST THAT I CAN, WHICH MIGHT NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH, BUT I WILL...
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| 00:15:00 |
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BY LISTENING TO YOU, IT IS ALSO A THE FACT YOU PREPARE VERY WELL, AND YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK. NO MATTER HOW MUCH HOMEWORK YOU DO, THERE MUST BE SOME SUBJECTS...
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| 00:15:13 |
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OTHERS BEFORE YOU FACE THEM. >>
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| 00:15:15 |
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YES. >> COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT? >> THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ME MOST NERVOUS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MY REAL HEROS. LIKE WHEN I INTERVIEWED STEVEN...
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| 00:15:35 |
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AND I
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| 00:15:36 |
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HAVE INTERVIEWED HIM THREE TIMES,
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| 00:15:38 |
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I THINK. BECAUSE I LOVE HIS WORK SO MUCH AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT HE HATES TO BE INTERVIEWED, I KEEP GOING BACK FOR MORE. IF YOU ASK A QUESTION, HE...
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| 00:16:30 |
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FIRST MUSICAL WAS RELEASED. INTERVIEW ABOUT THESE SONGS. THE FACT THAT I INTERVIEWED HIM BEFORE IS IRRELEVANT. >> WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SAY NO TO
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| 00:16:42 |
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YOU? >> WELL, PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO BE INTERVIEWED. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO OUR SHOW NOW BECAUSE THE SHOW IS BETTER. OFTEN WHEN PEOPLE...
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| 00:17:01 |
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OR TWO INTERVIEWS FOR THEIR NEW MOVIE OR RECORD OR WHATEVER. SOME PEOPLE YOU LEARN OVER THE YEARS SAY NO BECAUSE THEY DON'T
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| 00:17:08 |
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LIKE BEING INTERVIEWED. THEY'RE NOT VERBAL OR ANALYTICAL ABOUT THE WORD AND THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE TALKING IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE. SOME PEOPLE DON'T...
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| 00:17:50 |
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FEELING, BUT NOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, I CAN'T BE INTERVIEWED AGAIN OR IF YOU ASK ME ONE MORE QUESTION I WILL EXPLODE AND I MIGHT GET ANGRY...
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| 00:18:01 |
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OR AM I JUST REACHING A STATE OF DESPAIR? I'M NOWHERE NEAR THAT. >> WHAT -- I'M SURE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, BUT COULD YOU GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF INTERVIEWS...
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| 00:18:31 |
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THERE ARE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THAT, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I AVOID THAT. AT THE END, I'M...
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| 00:18:52 |
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A FEW MINUTES AT THE END OF THE INTERVIEW AND THE PRODUCER OR ASSOCIATE PRODUCER OR EXECUTIVE PRO DUESER HAVE A CHANCE -- PRODUCER HAVE A CHANCE TO...
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| 00:19:34 |
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HALF-HOUR AN LIVE, I WAS USED TO DOING
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| 00:19:37 |
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HOUR-LONG INTERVIEWS. WHEN PEOPLE WOULD GIVE AN ANSWER THAT WAS A DEAD END, I WOULD SAY , WE'RE ONLY A HALF-HOUR. NOW WE RECORD AN HOUR AND THE EDITORS...
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| 00:20:23 |
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THE -- THE PERSON FROM THE SOVIET -- HE WAS THE PERSON WHO HAD BEEN THE SOVIET UNION'S LEADING AMERICAN EXPERT. LEADING EXPERT ON AMERICA. AND I WAS...
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| 00:20:40 |
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ANSWER IF YOU MAKE IT SHORTER ANSWERS AND HE CONTINUED TO GIVE HIS LONG ANSWERS AFTER THAT. AND THEN I SAID TO HIM, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK SO CLOSELY...
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| 00:21:28 |
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O'REILLY. I COULD SEE HOW THEY MIGHT BE CONNECTED. LATELY WE CAN SEE HOW THEY MIGHT BE CONNECTED. [LAUGHTER]
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| 00:21:36 |
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LOU REED AND
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| 00:21:42 |
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PETER BOYLE. >> FAY DUNNAWAY. AND YAN WINTER. >> WHAT GOT YAN WINTER GOING? >> I HAD READ "THE HISTORY OF ROLLING STONE," IT SAID WHEN YAN WINTER...
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| 00:22:05 |
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A LIST OF SUBSCRIBERS. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS CLEVER. YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR FOOT IN
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| 00:22:11 |
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THE DOOR SOMEHOW. SO I ASKED HIM ABOUT THAT AND THEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT --
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| 00:22:15 |
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AND I READ THIS PLACE IS THAT HE WANTED TO START "ROLLING STONE" WAS TO MEET JOHN LEN ANN AND HE -- LENNON AND I THINK THAT HE TOOK OFFENSE TO THOSE...
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| 00:22:57 |
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CENTER OF A STORY TANCHINGS IN HER CASE, WHERE
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| 00:23:00 |
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IS THE LINE BETWEEN
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| 00:23:02 |
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JOURNALISM AND VOYYARISM? IT WAS A HARD LINE TO WALK AND
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| 00:23:06 |
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I DIDN'T WANT TO WALK IT UNTIL HER BOOK PUB CYST SAID HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTERSUE -- PUBLICIST SAID HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTERVIEW HER. I WASN'T...
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| 00:24:01 |
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PHONE.
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| 00:24:02 |
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AND THEN IT SAID YET YOU ALSO SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU FELT THAT YOU WERE CLICKING ON AN INCREDIBLE LEVEL. SO HOW CAN THAT BE? IN ALL HONESTY WHO...
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| 00:24:56 |
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OF DISCRETION AND GOOD TASTE, WHATEVER THAT IS. THAT'S SO SUBJECTIVE. IF IT SEEMS TO RELATE TO WHO THEY ARE. LIKE I WON'T JUST ASK ANYBODY ABOUT THEIR...
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| 00:25:09 |
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IF SOMEBODY'S WORK, THEIR MEMOIR, THEIR PLAY, THEIR MUSIC, THEIR ACTIVISM, WHATEVER, RELATES TO THAT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SUBJECT OF THE CONVERSATION....
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| 00:26:17 |
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OUT. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM IT? >> WELL, FOR ANY LISTENERS -- OR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW KISS I THINK OF THEM AS A HEAVY METAL BAND FOR PRETEENS....
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| 00:26:43 |
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HIS MID 50'S TO STILL BE STRAPPING ON THE COD PIECE FOR CONCERTS AND DOING THE WHOLE GOD OF THUNDER BIT. HIS ATTITUDE WAS HE NEVER MET ME OR HEARD THE...
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| 00:27:40 |
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THIS INTERVIEW WILL HAVE TO END
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| 00:27:41 |
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OR I'LL HAVE TO SEND YOU TO THE
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| 00:27:43 |
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CORNER. YOU
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| 00:27:46 |
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KNOW? OR DO I ACT LIKE WELL THIS IS JUST AN INTERVIEW AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE SUBJECT AND IGNORE WHAT HE SAID AND GO ON AND SAY IN YOUR SECOND...
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| 00:28:33 |
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MANY TIMES SINCE AROUND 1978 OR 1979. I'VE BEEN A FAN OF
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| 00:28:37 |
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AL FRANKEN'S SINCE HIS EARLY DAYS IN THE "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" ERA, FA FAN OF HIS WRITING, A FAN OF HIM AS A PERFORMER. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN AL FRANKEN...
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| 00:28:47 |
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NEW WE USUALLY INVITE HIM ON THE SHOW BECAUSE HE IS INCREDIBLY FUNNY, TALENTED AND A GREAT GUEST. HE HAD ON THIS NEW BOOK. IT WAS A FUNNY LOOK AT THE...
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| 00:29:40 |
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O'REILLY SAID TO ME, YOU GAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE AN EASY RIDE TO AL FRANKEN. YOU DIDN'T TREAT HIM THIS WAY. I WAS ASKING O'REILLY CHALLENGING QUESTIONS....
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| 00:29:56 |
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BEEN LESS THAN COMPLETELY HONEST ABOUT HIS OWN BACKGROUND. O'REILLY WILL ARGUE WITH THAT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD HIM ON. SO COTAKE ISSUE WITH WHATEVER...
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| 00:30:51 |
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NOT AS FREQUENTLY AS THE MOST
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| 00:30:53 |
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RIDICULOUS ITEM ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, NEGATIVE ABOUT O'REILLY. SO IT'S, I WANTED TO KNOW IF HE DID THAT TO HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT...
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| 00:31:05 |
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HIM OR
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| 00:31:06 |
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WHETHER IT WAS HIS WAY TO GET EVEN. IT SEEMED TO ME A FAIR QUESTION, BECAUSE AFTER ALL HE IS A VERY POWERFUL MAN. HE PRIDES HIMSELF AND RIGHTLY SO ON...
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| 00:32:18 |
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AND THAT SEEMED UNFAIR. AND MY VIEW OF THAT IS, TO QUOTE SOMEBODY WHO I THINK BILL
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| 00:32:26 |
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O'REILLY RESPECTS, BILL O'REILLY, O'REILLY WAS ONCE ASKED BY ONE OF HIS VIEWERS IN AN EMAIL THAT HE READ ON THE AIR, WHY DID YOU TREAT SO AND SO THIS...
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| 00:33:29 |
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IS ONE THING IN COMMON WITH MY INTERVIEW WITH
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| 00:33:32 |
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HIM AND HIS WITH ME. THEY WERE BOTH ABOUT
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| 00:33:36 |
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HIM. EVERYTHING HE ASKED ME WAS ABOUT MY
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| 00:33:40 |
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INTERVIEW WITH HIM AND HOW I TREATED HIM UNFAIRLY AND HOW THE OMBUDSMAN EVEN SAID I WAS UNFAIR AND EVERYTHING. OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS HE CRITICIZED...
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| 00:34:39 |
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NO, THOUGH WE SOMETIMES CALL
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| 00:34:44 |
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PRODUCERS OR EDITORS WHO WE PARTICULARLY LIKE AND TRUST
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| 00:34:49 |
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AT N.P.R. AND JUST SAY WE'RE REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT SOMETHING. THIS IS SUCH A GRAY AREA. YOU KNOW, TALK IT THROUGH WITH US. SO WE'LL GO TO THEM FOR
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| 00:35:03 |
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GUIDANCE WHEN JUST ANOTHER BRAIN TO THINK IT THROUGH WOULD BE REALLY HANDY BUT THEY DON'T -- THEY'RE NOT A PART OF OUR REGULAR EDITORIAL PROCESS. BECAUSE,...
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| 00:35:45 |
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SENSE RIGHT NOW? >> WELL, IN TERMS OF PROGRAMMING I THINK IN SOME WAYS N.P.R. IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. AND I SAY THAT FROM -- I WATCH A LOT OF LIKE...
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| 00:36:09 |
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AN ANSWER. AND LIKE THE NEWS, WHAT STARTED OFF AT CNN AS LIKE A NEWS NETWORK IS MORE OF TALK SHOWS NOW. AND I THINK N.P.R.'S NEWS COVERAGE AND INTERVIEWS...
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| 00:37:05 |
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FOX IS FAIR AND BALANCED BUT LIBERALS
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| 00:37:09 |
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HAVE NPR. NPR HAS BEEN SORT OF POLITICIZED FOR REASONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH NPR IN THE CURRENT SORT OF CULTURE WAR. WHAT DO...
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| 00:37:21 |
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DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR AND I THINK THAT FOR SOME CONSERVATIVES, NOT ALL OF THEM, JUST SPEAKING OF SOME, THAT THE ABSENCE OF A CONSERVATIVE AGENDA...
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| 00:37:43 |
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VERY BALANCED. AND VERY DILIGENT IN ITS REPORTING AND IN INTERINTERVIEW SHOWS AS WELL. NOW, WE ON OUR SHOW DO A LOT OF ARTS COVERAGE. AND AS WELL ASISH...
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| 00:38:31 |
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BUT, ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE F.C.C. FOR INSTANCE, IS TAKING A MUCH MORE
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| 00:38:36 |
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HARD-HITTING APPROACH ON THE LANGUAGE YOU CAN USE. SO IF WE'RE DOING A READING, I MEAN, WE HAVE -- SWINEY TAUGHT US AN FAVOR AMONG FRESH AIR, EVERY...
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| 00:39:29 |
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BLEEPING IT, WE REVERSED
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| 00:39:31 |
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IT SO IT WAS LIKE THAT WORD BACKWARDS SO IT'S LIKE THERE AND NOT THERE. IT'S NOT BEING SAID. >> BUT IT'S BEING SAID. >> SORT OF THE SAME CHILLING...
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| 00:39:59 |
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CAN'T.
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| 00:40:01 |
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OH, I'LL SAY SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT ARTS COVERAGE. >> RIGHT. A SINGER
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| 00:40:09 |
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ONCE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW, THE INTERVIEWER ASKED HIM WHY SOME OF HIS CHARACTERS ARE GROTESQUE AND HE SAID WHEN YOU'RE WITH PEOPLE YOU'RE LIKE ANOTHER...
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| 00:40:27 |
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AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY TRUE. I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY THE TERRITORY THAT A LOT OF LITERATURE AND MOVIES AND THEATER IS ABOUT, THAT PART OF YOURSELF...
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| 00:41:56 |
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CASES
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| 00:41:57 |
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YOU'RE REACHING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE THE OBVIOUS AUDIENCE FOR A GREAT SAY AMERICAN WRITER WHO DEALS WITH DIFFICULT THINGS, THAT YOU'RE TURNING
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| 00:42:07 |
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PEOPLE ON TO IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE THAT
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| 00:42:09 |
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YOU'RE REACHING YOUNG PEOPLE OR PEOPLE DARE I SAY IT IN THE RED
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| 00:42:12 |
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STATES THAT MAY HAVE NOT, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN READING RICHARD PRICE. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME. AND WHO SAY, YOU KNOW,...
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| 00:42:37 |
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ON THE SHOW. BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT RELIGION IN AWAY -- IN A WAY OF TRYING TO CONVERT OUR LISTENERS TO ONE POINT OF VIEW. WE TALK ABOUT RELIGION IN...
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| 00:44:16 |
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WELL, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A PERIOD WHERE CULTURE IS AS DIVIDED AS IT IS. WHERE SEAN PENN IS IN A MOVIE AND THERE IS THIS BUZZ LIKE DON'T SEE THE MOVIE BECAUSE...
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| 00:44:41 |
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WE WERE LITTLE KIDS DURING THE MCCARTHY ERA -- >> I WAS TOO LITTLE TO REALLY NOTICE IT. >> ME TOO. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. >> AND I KEEP...
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| 00:45:01 |
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THE TWO MET
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| 00:45:04 |
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SOMEPLACE BUT THE
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| 00:45:06 |
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COUNTERCULTURE WASN'T MUCH INTO THE MAINSTREAM CULTURE. NOW THERE ISN'T A COUNTERCULTURE PER SE LIKE THAT. INSTEAD THERE IS A FRAGMENTED
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| 00:45:13 |
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CULTURE. THERE'S BLOGS AND WEBSITES AND CABLE TV AND INDEPENDENT PRESSES AND DO IT YOURSELF RECORDING AND EVERYTHING SO THINGS ARE TOTALLY FRAGMENTED...
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| 00:45:58 |
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AND SCOTT SPENCER. IN TERMS OF MUSICIANS RICHARD THOMPSON IS A FAVORITE IN TERMS OF SINGER/SONGWRITERS. I'LL MENTION A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WROTE...
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| 00:46:13 |
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AND PHILIP JOHNSTONE, THEY'RE BOTH WONDERFUL, JUST WONDERFUL COMPOSERS. DON BYRON >> OH, DON BYRON. >> A CLARINETIST AND COMPOSER. JUST TERRIFIC....
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| 00:46:40 |
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AIR" ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANY MEMBER OF THE BUSH FAMILY
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| 00:46:44 |
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LIKE BARBARA WHEN SHE WAS PROMOTING
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| 00:46:46 |
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HER BOOK? >> YES. WE HAD ON BARBARA >> HOW DID THAT GO? >> IT WAS OK. I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER MUCH ABOUT
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| 00:46:57 |
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IT. I HAVE A BAD MEMORY. THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A COMMENT ON BARBARA BUSH. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE HELP
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| 00:47:03 |
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DO YOU RESEARCH ON THE FOLKS YOU INTERVIEW? WHO CHOOSES THE PEOPLE? HOW LONG AHEAD
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| 00:47:07 |
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DO YOU HAVE TO ASK A PERSON TO BE ON THE
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| 00:47:11 |
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| 00:47:12 |
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SHOW? BECAUSE THE SHOW HAS SUCH A REACH THERE MUST ALSO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSTANTLY CONNIVING TO GET ON THE SHOW AND ASKING TO BE ON THE SHOW AND...
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| 00:47:23 |
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AND DEAL WITH THAT? >> WELL THRRKS ARE THREE INTERVIEW PRODUCERS ON THE SHOW. THEY FIND THE GUESTS AND SPEND THEIR DAYS GOING THROUGH REAMS OF MATERIALS....
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| 00:47:45 |
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CULTURE PRODUCER WHO ALSO, YOU KNOW, STRAYS TO ISSUES AND WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS DEVOTED TO MOSTLY ISSUES. AND THEY SPEND THEIR DAYS JUST GOING THROUGH...
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| 00:49:09 |
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FAR IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A 24-48-HOUR WINDOW WHEN YOU CAN RECORD THEM. AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT THEN AND HAVE YOU TO SCHEDULE MAYBE LIKE THREE...
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| 00:49:27 |
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SO IT REALLY VARIES. SOME OF THE CALENDARS ARE BOOKED UP WAY IN ADVANCE AND SOME LIKE THE DAY BEFORE. >> AND IT REMAINS FLUID SO YOU CAN REMOVE SEGMENTS...
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| 00:49:54 |
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HERE'S HOW DIE IT AND IT
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| 00:49:57 |
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WORKS. SOMETIMES I KNOW I'M GETTING THE
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| 00:49:59 |
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PAT ANSWERS. IN FACT SOMETIMES I THINK THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY AROUND IT IN PART BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN QUESTIONS I REALLY WANT TO ASK. I WANT TO...
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| 00:50:13 |
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REQUIRES ASKING CERTAIN QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME ANSWERS BECAUSE IT'S, THEY ONLY HAVE ONE...
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| 00:51:12 |
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THE ONLY PEOPLE
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| 00:51:13 |
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WE PAY ON THE SHOW
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| 00:51:15 |
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ARE IF SOMEBODY PERFORMS. IF A MUSICIAN DOES A CONCERT WE'LL PAY THEM. WE DON'T PAY FOR INTERVIEWS. >>
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| 00:51:22 |
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DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS FOR COMPOSING GREAT
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QUESTIONS? >> KNOW AND CARE ABOUT WHO SOMEBODY IS. I MEAN,
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| 00:51:34 |
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THAT'S THE MAIN THING. ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE INTERVIEWED BY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE
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| 00:51:43 |
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AND DOESN'T CARE EITHER. THEN YOU HAVE THIS FEELING LIKE YOU DON'T CARE SO WHY SHOULD I TELL YOU? AND IF IT'S A PRINT REPORTER
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| 00:51:50 |
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THEN YOU ALSO FEEL YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T CARE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT AND YOU MIGHT NOT GET IT RIGHT. THEN YOU BECOME AFRAID TO TELL THEM THINGS...
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| 00:52:27 |
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SCOTT SIMON CAN BE A PARTICULARLY EMPATHETIC -- I'M NOT SURE OF THE WORD -- INTERVIEW. I THINK IRA GLASS IS
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EXTRAORDINARY AT GETTING PEOPLE TO TALK IN THE MOST CONVERSATIONAL WAY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW HE IS. I USED TO WATCH
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| 00:52:40 |
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DICK CABOT A LOT WHEN HE HAD HIS PBS
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| 00:52:42 |
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SHOW AND HE WAS TOTALLY DISARMING LIKE HE'D MAKE A COMMENT THAT SEEMED VERY INSIGHTFUL BUT ALSO OFF THE WALL AND SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION IS...
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| 00:53:21 |
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DONE AND YOU COMPARE WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO WHAT HE'S DOING OR NOT REEL SNI >> OH, SURE. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I ALMOST PROTECT MYSELF WHEN SOMETIMES WHEN...
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| 00:53:36 |
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AND DIDN'T IT WILL JUST BE TOO PAINFUL. SO I'LL JUST GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. >> HE IS AN INTERVIEWER OF SORTS BUT IS
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| 00:53:45 |
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IT TRUE THAT YOU LISTEN TO HOWARD STERN? >> OH, SURE. NOT AS MUCH AS I USED TO BECAUSE I HAD A LONG COMMUTE AND NOW I'M A FEW MINUTES FROM WHERE I WORK...
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| 00:54:04 |
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THE FREAK SHOW PART OF HOWARD STERN. I DON'T LIKE THE KIND
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| 00:54:07 |
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OF BREAST-SIZED, PENIS-SIZED PART OF HOWARD STERN. I DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF HIS SHOW REALLY HAS BECOME THIS FREAK SHOW. WHERE PEOPLE...
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| 00:55:22 |
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SCHWARTZ AND IRVIN BERLIN. >> TAKE ME WITH YOU. >> EXACTLY. >> IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU FILLED OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE AND SAID YOU WANTED TO BE
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| 00:55:29 |
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A LIR SIST. >> EXACTLY. WERE YOU ONLY INTERESTED IN THAT MUSIC OR ROCK 'N ROLL? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WENT THROUGH THIS. YOU GREW UP IN WASHINGTON....
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| 00:55:45 |
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IN BROOKLYN THEY
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| 00:55:46 |
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HAD SOMETHING CALLED SING. >> I KNOW OF IT >> BASICALLY IT'S AN EXTENDED
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| 00:55:52 |
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SKETCH YOU WOULD DO AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND YOU'D WRITE A
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| 00:55:56 |
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STORY AND IT WOULD BE A MUSICAL. FOR THE
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| 00:55:59 |
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MUSIC WOW TAKE SONGS
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| 00:56:00 |
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FROM A CURRENT OR RECENT BROADWAY SHOW AND WRITE YOUR OWN LYRICS. AND I WAS ONE OF THE LIR CYSTS FOR SING AND I LOVED IT. I JUST LOVED IT. I
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| 00:56:09 |
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THOUGHT WOULDN'T IT BE EXTRAORDINARY IF I COULD
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| 00:56:11 |
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LIKE DO THIS IN LIFE? >> DID YOU GO TO THEATER AS A KID, GO SEE MUSICALS? >> SOME, NOT A LOT. LIKE MAYBE ONCE A YEAR OR SO MY PARENTS WOULD TAKE ME...
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| 00:56:35 |
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PREPLANNED AND HOW MUCH IS SPONTANEOUS? >>
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| 00:56:37 |
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IT'S A MIX OF THE TWO. I GO IN THERE WITH MY OUTLINE. I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE NARRATIVE ORDER BECAUSE I THINK AN INTERVIEW ISN'T A...
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| 00:56:53 |
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GETTING SOUND BITES FOR A REPORT OR QUOTES THAT I'M GOING TO INTERP LATE INTO A WRITTEN PIECE.
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| 00:56:59 |
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THE INTERVIEW IS THE THING. SO IF I ASK QUESTIONS IN A NARRATIVE ORDER I'M MORE LIKELY TO GET AN INTERVIEW WITH A NARRATIVE FLOW. >> RIGHT. . >> ON...
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| 00:57:25 |
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REALLY PREPARED
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| 00:57:27 |
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ENOUGH TO BE EQUIPPED TO DO THE JOB WAINT TO DO. THAT MIGHT BE WITH AN ARTIST BUT IT ALSO MIGHT WESTBOUND SOMETHING MORE POLITICAL WHEN
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| 00:57:39 |
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I FEEL I NEED TO BE AN EXPERT ON THIS FIELD THAT I DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY KNOW THAT MUCH
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| 00:57:45 |
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ABOUT AND I'VE STUDIED AND CRAMMED BUT I WISH I HAD A WEEK AND NOT A NIGHT TO PREPARE FOR IT. >> SO THAT MAKES YOU MORE NERVOUS THAN SOMEONE BEING...
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| 00:58:10 |
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LEAST ONCE A WEEK BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR RATINGS. NO ONE EVER SAYS BE MORE CONTROVERSIAL, MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY BECAUSE IT'S GREAT
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| 00:58:16 |
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FOR RATINGS. AND IT IS. WE GOT A HUGE RESPONSE TO THAT. A HUGE RESPONSE WHEN BILL O'REILLY WALKED OUT. IT'S GREAT FOR RATINGS. SO I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY...
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| 00:59:04 |
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YOU WANT TO WELCOME ME WITH OPEN ARMS NOT TO HOWARD STERN OBVIOUSLY MAYBE TO ROBIN, YOU ALSO HAVE TO WELCOME ME WITH OPEN LEGS, THAT DOESN'T MAKE NEWS...
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| 00:59:13 |
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NO. >> "FRESH AIR" IT'S NEWS WHEN TWO PEOPLE FIGHT. PUBLIC RADIO IS SO KIND OF CIVIL AND, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL AND LOW KEY IN THAT RESPECT. WHEN...
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| 00:59:34 |
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CHALLENGING QUESTIONS AND HE WALKS OUT ON ME,
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| 00:59:36 |
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THAT MAKES NEWS BECAUSE ON OUR SHOW "FRESH AIR" IT'S NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL WHEN SOMEBODY IS REALLY ANGRY OR THEY START ARGUING WITH ME LIKE THAT. >>...
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| 01:00:06 |
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IT. IN PART BECAUSE I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE
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| 01:00:09 |
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IN A SETTING LIKE THIS TALKING ABOUT MYSELF BECAUSE THIS NIGHT IS ABOUT
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| 01:00:14 |
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ME. YOU CAME HERE TO SEE FRANK RICH AND TO SEE
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| 01:00:17 |
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ME. BUT ON THE SHOW IT'S NOT ABOUT ME BUT MY GUEST AND I FEEL
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| 01:00:21 |
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LIKE
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| 01:00:23 |
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I DON'T LIKE THE SPOTLIGHT TO BE ON ME ON MY SHOW. I LIKE IT ON THE GUEST. OUR SHOW ISN'T ABOUT ME. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> WHO WAS THE VERY FORMAL SOUNDING...
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| 01:00:53 |
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ANNOUNCER ON THE SHOW WHO INTRODUCES
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| 01:00:56 |
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IT. >> MAYBE THE FUNDING CREDITS? >> MAYBE. OK. BUT THEY ALWAYS SOUND FORMAL BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY
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| 01:01:03 |
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WANT YOUR
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| 01:01:05 |
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CHECK. >> URE FUNDING CREDITS HAD
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| 01:01:08 |
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BEEN READ BY OUR ENGINEER, AUDREY. >>
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| 01:01:13 |
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COULD YOU GIVE AN OVERARCHING
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| 01:01:17 |
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THEME OF BLUE
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| 01:01:18 |
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STATE VALUES? >> AN OVERARCHING THEME OF BLUE STATE VALUES? >> I GUESS THIS
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| 01:01:28 |
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QUESTION SORT OF GETS BACK TO WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT NPR THOUGHT OF AS BEING LIBERAL. DO BLUE STATE VALUES EXIST IN YOUR VIEW? >>
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| 01:01:36 |
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I DON'T LIKE TO THINK IN THOSE TERMS. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. AND THIS GETS BACK
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| 01:01:41 |
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TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE ABOUT HOW THE ARTS ARE AFFECTED IN A POLITICIZED TIME. WE HAPPEN TO HAVE ON, YOU KNOW, A FAIR NUMBER OF GAY ARTISTS
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| 01:01:49 |
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FOR A LOT OF REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, THE ARTS HAVE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF GAY PEOPLE IN
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| 01:01:57 |
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IT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS IN THE PAST COUPLE DECADES GAY ARTISTS HAVE COME OUT OF THE CLOSET MORE AND MORE AND THE SUBJECT OF THEIR ART CAN MORE...
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| 01:03:10 |
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A GOOD
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| 01:03:12 |
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VALUE. THIS IS NOT A WAY TO PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, JUST AS ANTISEMITISM AND RACISM IS NOT A PROGRAM, A TRAIT IN YOUR LISTENERS THAT YOU...
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| 01:04:09 |
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YOU WILL. BUT IT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT,
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| 01:04:12 |
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YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY IS N.P.R. LIBERAL? WELL WE DO A LOT OF CULTURE ON THE SHOW AND AGAIN, THE ARTS OFTEN GO INTO TERRITORY THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT...
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| 01:04:58 |
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BACKGROUND RESEARCH YOU'VE
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| 01:05:00 |
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DONE, WHAT QUESTION MIGHT YOU ASK TO GET THE MOST SURPRISING ANSWER? >> I'M INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE I COULD NEVER
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| 01:05:11 |
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INTERVIEW MYSELF AND I THINK I HAVE
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| 01:05:13 |
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TROUBLE INTERVIEWING
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| 01:05:14 |
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FRIENDS. I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THEM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, YOUR CURIOSITY IS KIND OF SATISFIED IN A WAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW A LOT...
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| 01:05:26 |
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ALL, THERE'S THIS INSTINCT WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT YOU ALMOST WANT TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE SPOTLIGHT AND THAT IS AN INSTINCT YOU CAN'T HAVE WHEN...
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| 01:06:07 |
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MUCH. >>
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SINCE
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.