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POWER. INSTEAD HE AROUSED THE WESTERN WORLD TO AN HOUR OF IMMINENT DANGER THAT DID NOT EXIST, PRO VOKEDE THE ADVERSARY BY EXPOSING SOVIET NUCLEAR...
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AND WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION WE KNOW THE SOVIET UNION IN 1960 WAS ACTUALLY A FOURTH RATE ECONOMIC POWER, A SECOND-RATE MILITARY POWER, HAD 1/18...
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NOT TRUE BEFORE 1960 AND NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN AFTER 1963 SO THE QUESTION I REALLY
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WANTED TO ASK WAS WHY WAS IT, WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THESE THREE YEARS THAT MADE THIS PERIOD SO DANGEROUS? WAS IT THAT THE ISSUES BETWEEN THE U.S. AND...
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| 00:02:53 |
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ABOUT 40 MILES SOUTH OF CHICAGO WHO WERE BUILDING A BOMB
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| 00:02:56 |
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SHELTER AND WE CHILDREN WERE TOLD NOT TO EAT THE SNOW BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS HAD PUT RADIOACTIVITY IN IT. AS A CHILD I HAD A VERY INTENSE EXPERIENCE WITH...
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| 00:03:31 |
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MIKHAIL GORBACHEV YOU CAN GO TO THE SOVIET UNION AND TALK TO SOVIET OFFICIALS QUITE CANDIDLY ABOUT THEIR PAST. THAT
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| 00:03:37 |
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WASN'T POSSIBLE BEFORE GORBACHEV. SO YOU HAD, FOR INSTANCE, THE TESTIMONY OF SOMEONE LIKE ANDRE GROME EKEO, THE FOREIGN MINISTER, WHY HE LIED TO PRESIDENT...
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PRESENCE. JOHN KENNEDY IS SOMEONE WHO
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TO THIS DAY STIRS UP A GREAT DEAL
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OF CONTROVERSY, PEOPLE ARE VERY
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PECULIARIZED. -- POEM ARE AIZED. PEOPLE WHO LOVE HIM DON'T SEE FLAWS AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM AND FEE VERY FEW IN THE MIDDLE. I'VE TRIED TO WALK...
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TO SAY YOU SAW MANY BOOKS WRITTEN THAT WERE EXTREMELY REVERENTIAL, PEOPLE LIKE MC
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GEORGE BUNDY BUT WROTE AN ARTICLE AT THE TIME, HE WAS THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO WERE AROUND KENNEDY AND WHO WROTE BOOKS...
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200
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MILLION HUMAN BEINGS DIE. I THINK HE ALSO WAS PROBABLY THE MOST OR ONE OF THE MOST INTELLIGENT PRESIDENTS OF THIS CENTURY. AT THE SAME TIME ON THE...
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US WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF MR. KHRUSHCHEV AND ALSO BOBBY KENNEDY, THOSE THREE MEN. SHD THERE WAS AN ENORMOUS BETWEEN JOHN KENNEDY AND NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV....
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OF CRITICISM. >> I'M SORRY I RECIPIENT UPTONNED YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT. >>
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AN BIT. JOHN KENNEDY LIKE KHRUSHCHEV WANTED TO WORK THROUGH A CHANNEL HE COULD DEPEND ON AND ROBERT KENNEDY BEGINNING ABOUT THE
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SAME TIME, THE SPRING OF 1961, BEGAN
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TO ACT AS JOHN KENNEDY'S BACK CHANNEL TO THE C.I.A. WHAT RICHARD HELMS OF THE C.I.A.
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CALLS KENNEDY'S WIRE BRUSH
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| 00:09:38 |
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MAN. THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THIS PERIOD YOU SEE ROBERT KENNEDY CALLING SECOND AND THIRD-LEVEL OFFICIALSES IN THE C.I.A. ESPECIALLY ABOUT CUBA SAYING THE...
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| 00:10:13 |
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PLAY. THAT NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV FOR SINISTER REASONS WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND OUT OF THE BLUE MOVED MISSILES INTO CUBA. JOHN
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| 00:10:21 |
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KENNEDY DEMANDED THAT HE TAKE THEM OUT, THE MISSILES WENT OUT AND THAT WAS THE END OF IT. WHAT I FOUND FROM MY SOVIET INTERVIEWS WAS THAT THE REALITY...
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| 00:11:45 |
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1960. JOHN KENNEDY WANTED TO ACT VERY MUCH AS HIS OWN SECRETARY OF STATE AND WHAT YOU SEE THROUGH THIS PERIOD, WE'VE SEEN IT CERTAINLY IN OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS,
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| 00:11:54 |
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IS JOHN KENNEDY AND OTHERS IN THE WHITE HOUSE MAKING AN EFFORT TO CIRCUMVENT RUSK, USE OTHER CHANNELS SUCH AS ROBERT KENNEDY, MCGEORGE BUNDY, THE NATIONAL...
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| 00:12:46 |
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SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, ABSOLUTELY CAPTIVATED KENNEDY. KEND YEAHY WAS VERY TAKEN BY HIM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGH SHOW IN THE BOOK IS THAT JOHN KENNEDY...
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| 00:13:03 |
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HIS SUCCESSOR AT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION OF 1968. MCNAMARA WAS A BUSINESSMAN, VERY HARD TO GET THOSE FOR DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS IN THOSE DAYS,...
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| 00:14:54 |
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I AGREE TO BE YOUR SECRETARY OF DEFENSE I WANT TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU REALLY
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| 00:15:00 |
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WROTE "PROFILES IN COURAGE," KENNEDY SAID THAT HE DID, AND NUMBER TWO, I'D LIKE WRITTEN ASSURANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME FULL INDEPENDENCE AS SECRETARY...
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| 00:15:35 |
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PARENTS DO? >> MY FATHER WAS A BUSINESSMAN, MY MOTHER WAS
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A HOMEMAKER I GUESS ONE WOULD SAY. NOT TERRIBLY POLITICALLY INVOLVED ALTHOUGH MY FATHER WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD IN TOWN. >> WHERE DID YOU...
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| 00:15:55 |
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INTERESTED IN
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HISTORY? >> I WAS INTERESTED IN HISTORY FROM THE TIME I WAS A SMALL BOY AND IN FACT THE FIRST SERIOUS BOOK OF AWFUL THINGS I EVER READ WAS "1,000 DAYS"...
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| 00:16:09 |
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THOUGHT IT WOULD BE USEFUL LATER
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| 00:16:11 |
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ON HAVING READ IT. RUN ONE THING, BRIAN, YOU'RE FROM THE MIDWEST, TOO, UNLIKE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
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| 00:16:16 |
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IN THE EAST I THINK PEOPLE WHO GREW UP IN
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| 00:16:18 |
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THE MIDWEST TO SOME EXTENT HAVE THE SENSE THAT HISTORICAL EVENTS ARE SOMEWHAT DETACHED FROM THEM. I, FOR INSTANCE, HAD NEVER MET SOMEONE WHO HAD WRITTEN...
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| 00:17:07 |
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HEAD IN MOUNT RUSHMORE AND I GOT A REPLY FROM JOHNSON: 'S SECRETARY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE ADVICE AND I CAN REMEMBER TAKING THE REPLY TO MY FRIENDS...
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| 00:17:16 |
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SKATING RING IN TOWN. THEY ALL THOUGHT IT WAS A FORGERY. YEARS LATER WHEN I WAS DOING WORK IN THE JOHNSON LIBRARY I SAID I'M SURE YOU WON'T HAVE THIS,...
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| 00:17:55 |
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INTERESTED IN POLITICAL LEADERSHIP. JOSEPH KENNEDY AND FRANKLIN
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| 00:17:58 |
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ROOSEVELT WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABOUT THE SAME AGE AND IN THE 1920'S HAD BUSINESS CAREERS DURING THAT PERIOD IN AMERICAN BUSINESS THAT WAS NOT TERRIBLY...
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| 00:19:04 |
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1980'S AND THE MOST RECENT DOCUMENTS THAT WERE BEING UNSEALED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT WERE DOCUMENTS FROM THE LATE EISENHOWER
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| 00:19:12 |
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PERIOD, SO THAT WAS A SITUATION IN WHICH I WAS ABLE TO TAKE FRESH MATERIAL AND INTERPRET IT FOR PERHAPS THE FIRST TIME. >> WHAT DO YOU DO BESIDES WRITE...
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| 00:19:42 |
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AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY. >> WHEN DID YOU START GATHERING
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| 00:19:44 |
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INFORMATION FOR THIS CURRENT BOOK? >> I STARTED THE CRISIS YEARS IN 1985 AND THAT WAS A TIME WHEN YOU SIMPLY ASSUMED THAT YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO GET SOVIET...
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| 00:20:03 |
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SAYING MRS. KHRUSHCHEV DOES NOT WISH TO BE CONSULTED AT THIS TIME. THAT WAS
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| 00:20:07 |
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NOT UNUSUAL BECAUSE MRS. KHRUSHCHEV NEVER WISHED TO BE INTERVIEWED, SHE WASN'T ALLOWED TO BE AND I SOMETIMES JOKED THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH THAT...
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| 00:20:53 |
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THAT REALLY COULD ACCOMMODATE THE NEW INFORMATION. YOU THINK IF THERE HADN'T BEEN THAT NEW INFORMATION I'VE REFERRED TO FROM THE SOVIET UNION, FROM...
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| 00:21:08 |
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FIGURES WILLING TO SPEAK CANDIDLY THESE DAYS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH SHORTER BOOK. SINCE I WAS TURNING UP A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION NOT YET IN THE...
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| 00:21:48 |
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HE AND THE EAST GERMANS WERE TELLING EACH OTHER DURING THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE BERLIN WALL. HOW HE AGREED TO THE -- GREETED THE NEWS OF JOHN KENNEDY'S...
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| 00:22:30 |
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TRIP HE TOOK WITH HIS FATHER IN 1959 WHEN THEY TOURED THIS COUNTRY AND WENT TO HOLLYWOOD AND
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| 00:22:36 |
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FINALLY NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV MET WITH EISENHOWER AT CAMP DAVID. THE OTHER SOURCE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THESE PEOPLE NOW ARE VERY EAGER TO WRITE...
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| 00:23:29 |
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I THINK ANY HISTORIAN
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| 00:23:30 |
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WHO WANTS TO WRITE AMERICAN-SOVIET HISTORY IN THE FUTURE I THINK WILL HAVE TO HAVE A VERY GOOD COMMAND OF RUSSIAN. >> WHAT IS SERGEI KHRUSHCHEV LIKE AND...
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| 00:23:58 |
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IN A WAY THAT WAS VERY LAVISH ALTHOUGH HE'S SOMEWHAT
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| 00:24:02 |
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MODEST PERSON, WAS TREATED EXTREMELY WELL. ONE OF THE STORIES IN THE BOOK IS THE STORY OF THE FACT THAT IN THE FALL OF 1964 HE WAS GIVEN INFORMATION...
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| 00:25:16 |
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WRITING? ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A FAIR COMMANDER BUT IN READING "THE
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| 00:25:22 |
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COMMANDERS" BY BOB WOODWARD WARD AND TO FIND THE QUOTE MARKS YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN THE NOTES. TELL US ABOUT THAT TECHNIQUE. HOW DOES A HISTORIAN DO...
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| 00:25:33 |
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OF ALL, BRIAN, A WORK OF HISTORY AND BOB WOODWARD'S BOOK WOULD BE CON TESTIMONY ARE PREAR JOURNALISM BUT A BOOK OF HISTORY 30 YEARS LATER HAS TO BE...
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| 00:25:54 |
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SENTENCE IN THE BOOK IS DOCUMENTED, I SAY WHERE IT COMES FROM. USUALLY FROM DOCUMENTS. I TRY NOT TO RELY ON INTERVIEWS, I MUCH PREFER TO RELY ON, FOR...
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| 00:27:28 |
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THAT ALL ABOUT? >> WELL, ANY HISTORIAN HAS TO DEAL WITH THE QUESTION OF JOHN KENNEDY'S PRIVATE LIFE. AS AN HISTORIAN I'M NOT PARTICULARLY FASCINATED...
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| 00:27:50 |
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BE YES. EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION WE HAVE SUGGESTS THAT THE WOMEN THAT JOHN KENNEDY WAS INVOLVED WITH WERE NOT SUBJECTED TO SOME KIND OF A BACKGROUND...
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| 00:29:30 |
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GIANCONO OR THE SOVIET INTELLIGENCE SERVICE. BUT FOR A DIPLOMATIC HISTORIAN ALLING YOU HAVE TO DO IS ESTABLISH THE RISK. AS LONG AS THAT RISK REMAINED...
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| 00:29:40 |
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THAT IF JOHN KENNEDY, FOR INSTANCE, HAD BEEN REVEALED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS LINKED TO SOVIET INTELLIGENCE, AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN...
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| 00:30:38 |
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C.I.A. TO TRY TO MURDER FIDEL CASTRO. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE WAS A LINK ON THE MURDER OF CASTRO. I HAVE NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF THIS AND I'VE TRIED
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| 00:30:48 |
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TO BE AS ABSOLUTELY CAREFUL AS I COULD IN SEPARATING IF WHEAT TREMENDOUS THE CHAFF. WHAT WE CAN BE SURE OF, WHAT WE CANNOT BE SURE OF. >> LET ME SEE....
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| 00:31:17 |
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WAS VERY INVOLVED IN CUBA BEFORE CASTRO. IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT
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| 00:31:21 |
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THE MAFIA WAS TAKING IN A
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| 00:31:23 |
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BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM THEIR CONCESSIONS IN
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| 00:31:26 |
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HAVANA AND ELSEWHERE ON THE ISLAND. THE MAFIA SAID WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO USE YOUR ACQUAINTANCES TO KILL CASTRO. THIS PLOT WENT ON THROUGH 1961 AND 1962....
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| 00:32:38 |
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PURSUED THE MOB MUCH MORE ENERGETICALLY THAN ANY PREVIOUS ATTORNEY GENERAL. SO WHAT THIS RAISES OF COURSE IS WHETHER
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| 00:32:47 |
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THE MOB EXPECTED TO GET BETTER TREATMENT FROM THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION
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| 00:32:51 |
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BECAUSE THEY FELT THEMSELVES TO BE DOING THESE FAVORS FOR THE SUE SIGH WHICH
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| 00:32:56 |
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WAS UNDER PRESIDENT KENNEDY AND WHETHER THEY WERE OUTRAGED AT THE FACT THAT MANY MAFIA LEADERS WERE BEING VERIENER JETICALLY SENT TO JAIL BY ROBERT KENNEDY....
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| 00:33:27 |
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AND DIRKSEN GOT INTO THIS ACT. TELL US ABOUT THAT STORY. >> THIS COMES FROM F.B.I. FILSE OPENED
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| 00:33:34 |
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IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I MIGHT PARNETHET YOU CANALLY
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| 00:33:37 |
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SAY F.B.I. FILES TURN OUT TO BE A -- PARENTHETICALLY SAY F.B.I. FILES TURN OUT TO BE AN INTERESTING SOURCE FOR THE HISTORIAN. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL...
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| 00:33:53 |
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A SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE WIRETAPS ON TELEPHONES AND YOU GET AN EXACT ACCOUNT OF A CONVERSATION. NONE OF US HISTORIANS WOULD EVER EXPECTED THAT...
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| 00:35:41 |
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EARLY 1942, AS A NAVAL INTELLIGENCE OFFICER THAT HE WAS INVOLVED WITH INGA
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| 00:35:47 |
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ARVID FAYHOS, A MARRIED WOMAN AND REPUTED RECENT MISTRESS OF A SWEDE BLACK LISTED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR HIS
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| 00:35:57 |
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CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH HERMAN GOEHRING. >> THE REASON I FOUND JOHN KENNEDY'S FAILURE TO BE MORE CAREFUL ABOUT WOMEN WHILE PRESIDENT WAS BECAUSE ONCE BEFORE...
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| 00:36:25 |
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ROOSEVELT'S ATTORNEY GENERAL OF BEING A NAZI AGENT IN WASHINGTON. F.B.I. FILES RECENTLY UNSEALED WHICH I USE IN THE BOOK SHOW SHE WENT AROUND WASHINGTON...
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| 00:37:32 |
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INFORMATION AS I UNDERSTAND IN YOUR BOOK? >> YES. PART OF IT'S PRURIENT, BRIAN. FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE BOOK CAME OUT THERE WERE TWO ASSOCIATED
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| 00:37:41 |
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PRESS STORIES ABOUT THE BOOK. ONE WAS ON THIS MATERIAL. THE OTHER WAS ON MY NEW FINDINGS ON THE BAY OF PIG, THE BERLIN
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| 00:37:48 |
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WALL AND THE CRUNE MISSILE CRISIS. THE FIRST ARTICLE WAS PICKED UP BY ABOUT --
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| 00:37:54 |
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THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS. THE FIRST WAS PICKED UP BY ABOUT 1,200 NEWSPAPERS, THE SECOND BY MUCH LESS THAN THAT. IT HAS TO COME INTO OUR ASSESSMENT OF...
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| 00:38:42 |
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IN NEW YORK IN THIS COUNTRY AND AT THE U.N. THAT WAS WHEN HE HAD THE FAMOUS INCIDENT WHEN
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| 00:38:48 |
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HE BEAT HIS SHOE ON THE TABLE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND OUT FROM SOVIET SOURCES, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TAKEN AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT...
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| 00:39:58 |
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NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV AT A SUMMIT IN VIENNA AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. HE SAID PRIVATELY AS I HAVE IN THE BOOK, I DON'T WANT TO GO SEE KHRUSHCHEV AS A...
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| 00:40:09 |
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CRUTCHES. HE HAD TO ACT FAST. AS IT TURNS OUT IN ORDER TO FIX HIS BACK TROUBLE HE RESORTED TO A DOCTOR IN NEW YORK CALLED MAX JACOBSON WHO WE NOW LOOK...
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| 00:41:27 |
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BOOK. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO ASKED EXCELLENT QUESTIONS,
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| 00:41:30 |
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WAS METCH HANDS ON, THERE WAS NO QUESTION WHO WAS IN CHARGE. BUT JOHN KENNEDY WAS FATALISTIC IN TWO WAYS AS I WRITE IN THE BOOK. ONE WAS WITH WOMEN....
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| 00:42:59 |
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RIGHT IN WHAT HE SAID ALL THESE YEARS WAS THAT DURING THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS HE MET WITH A SOVIET INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL NAMED ALEXANDER FOMIN. THOSE...
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| 00:43:18 |
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PREDSEST SORE OF THE RESTAURANT NOW HERE IN WASHINGTON. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT SCALY COULD NOT KNOW WAS WHO AUTHORIZED FONMIN TO HAVE THE MEETINGS...
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| 00:43:36 |
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IS THE IMPRESSION
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| 00:43:37 |
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THAT SCALY HAD OF FOMIN AND ALSO THE AMERICANS WHO KNEW ABOUT THESE MEETINGS, FOMIN WAS FREE-LANCING. PEOPLE IN THE SOVIET EMBASSY DURING THE CUBAN...
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| 00:44:33 |
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WHOM HE KNEW. HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB, KNEW HIM THROUGH THE PRESS CLUB. BOLSHEKOV CAME TO HOLMAN, SAID I WANT TO MEET WITH ROBERT...
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| 00:45:15 |
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GORBACHEV. IN THE EARLY 1960'S, KENNEDY AND KHRUSHCHEV WERE REDUCED TO
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| 00:45:19 |
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SENDING SECRET MESSAGES THROUGH NEWSMEN, THROUGH INTELLIGENCE AGENTS, IN FACT BOLSHEKOV WOULD MEET MEMBERS OF THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION ON STREET CORNERS...
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| 00:46:03 |
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SAID HE SAW STEVENSON AT THE WHITE HOUSE. HE SAID HE HAD A SMILE ON HIS FACE. HE SAID I NEVER FELT THE SAME WAY ABOUT STEVENSON AFTER THAT. THE RELATIONSHIP...
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| 00:46:16 |
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STEVENSON IS SOMETHING I GO INTO A GREAT DEAL IN THIS BOOK. STEVENSON OF COURSE HAD BEEN THE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE 1950'S, WAS STILL...
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| 00:47:29 |
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A MEMBER OF AN ADMINISTRATION THAT DID NOT LIKE HIM, DID NOT CONSULT HIM,
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| 00:47:33 |
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PLAYED CRUEL TRICKS ON HIM. >> WHO ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE YOU GOT TO KNOW IN YOUR RESEARCH FOR THIS BOOK THAT WERE AROUND THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION...
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| 00:47:55 |
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OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. HE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS A WONDERFUL SENSE OF HUMOR, VERY SMART, A VERY USEFUL INSTRUMENT OF KENNEDY'S DIPLOMACY. ANOTHER ONE...
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| 00:48:10 |
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WILL SPEAK VERY FREELY ABOUT MANY SUBJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE DURING THIS PERIOD, NOT LEAST HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS...
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| 00:50:28 |
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THEN. THE SECOND TIME WAS DURING THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS,
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| 00:50:32 |
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OCTOBER OF 1962. THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF HAD RESOLVED IF AN AMERICAN PLANE WERE DOWNED IN CUBA DURING THAT CRISIS, WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BOMB THE...
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| 00:51:23 |
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HE,, HIS SON TOLD HIM THERE WAS A THREAT AGAINST HIM BUT HOW DID HE FIND OUT HIS DAYS WERE
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| 00:51:29 |
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OVER? >> WELL, I THINK IT STARTS REALLY WITH THE WHOLE HISTORY
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| 00:51:32 |
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OF HIS LAST YEAR WHICH BEGAN WITH JOHN KENNEDY'SINGS ASSASSINATION. WHEN KENNEDY WAS KILLED IN DALLAS, THE C.I.A. TRIED TO LOCATE KHRUSHCHEV. THEY...
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| 00:51:50 |
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RETALIATION FOR SOVIET INVOLVEMENT IN KENNEDY'S MURDER. KHRUSHCHEV RUSHED THE NEXT DAY AFTER THE ASSASSINATION TO THE U.S. AMBASSADOR IN MOSCOW AND ...
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| 00:54:03 |
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MONTH? NOTHING SHOULD BE SO IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE TO INTERRUPT MY VACATION. THEY TOLD HIM HE'D BETTER COME NOW OF HE WAS FLOWN TO MOSCOW, HE GOT OFF
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| 00:54:11 |
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THE
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| 00:54:12 |
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PLANE. RATHER THAN THE USUAL WELCOMING DELEGATION
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| 00:54:15 |
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THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS THERE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE K.G.B., AND HE HAD KHRUSHCHEV DRIVEN TO THIS MEETING IN MOSCOW. >> QUESTION -- TODAY WITH MR. GORBACHEV...
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| 00:54:44 |
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KHRUSHCHEV OUT ONCE BEFORE IN 1957, AND
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| 00:54:48 |
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ALMOST SUCCEEDED. THESE COUPS WERE NOT UNUSUAL IN THOSE DAYS. NOWADAYS AS THE SOVIET UNION BECOMES MORE PLURALISTIC AND MORE PEOPLE HAVE A SAY IN WHO...
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| 00:55:33 |
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OF KHRUSHCHEV AND THEREFORE NOT ONLY HAD APAURNTLY HIS PAPERS
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| 00:55:36 |
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DESTROYED, BUT ALSO HAD -- APPARENTLY HAD HIS PARPSE DESTROYED BUT ALSO THE SOVIET PRESS AND SOVIET PUBLISHING REFUSED EVER TO MENTION THE NAME KHRUSHCHEV...
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| 00:56:20 |
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TAPE RECORDER, THE TAPES SMUGGLED TO THE WEST AND PUBLISHED
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| 00:56:23 |
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IN 1970 AND 1974. THERE WAS SOME TALK AT THE TIME, THERE WAS RARELY ANY DOUBT THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY KHRUSHCHEV'S VOICE. THERE WAS SOME TALK AT THE...
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| 00:56:35 |
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OILERS OUT HE WAS FORCED TO PUT
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| 00:56:37 |
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IN SOME DISINFORMATION THAT WOULD THROW OFF WESTERN INTELLIGENCE. MY TAKE ON THEM NOW IS THAT HE TOLD THE TRUTH AS HE KNEW IT, BUT KHRUSHCHEV'S VIEW...
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| 00:57:13 |
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WITH SOVIETS AND AMERICANS.
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| 00:57:15 |
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WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO COME OUT IN THE FALL OF 1992. >> LAST QUESTION, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE WAY THIS BOOK'S PLAYED OUT IN THE WAY IT'S BEING BOUGHT AND...
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| 00:57:39 |
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I HAVE TO SOME EXTENT REVISED BASED ON
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BOTH >>
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