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MESS THAT IS THE RESULT OF FAILED LEADERSHIP BY PRESIDENT BUSH. WE RUSHED INTO WAR WITHOUT A PLAN TO WIN THE PEACE, WITHOUT OUR ALLIES. WITHOUT EQUIPPING...
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PASSED A TRAGIC MILESTONE YESTERDAY. 1,000 YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN LOST. AND THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ARE SPENDING $200 BILLION IN IRAQ RATHER THAN HEALTH...
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POSSIBLE TO TRAIN UP SUFFICIENT NUMBERS OF IRAQI SECURITY PERSONNEL, POLICE AND MILITARY, WHO CAN TAKE OVER RESPONSIBILITY FOR SECURING THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
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WE NEED ELECTIONS TO BE HELD EFFECTIVELY. WE NEED TO ACCELERATE THE RECONSTRUCTION PROCESS. ALL OF THESE ARE ELEMENTS OF A SUCCESSFUL EXIT STRATEGY...
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WAS PUT IN CHARGE OF TRAINING OUR IRAQI SECURITY PERSONNEL THAT WE HAD ANY CONCRETE PLAN. SO WE WASTED MORE THAN A YEAR. AS A CONSEQUENCE, THE CENTER...
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ESTIMATED THAT LESS THAN 10,000 IRAQI SECURITY PERSONNEL HAVE BEEN PROPERLY TRAINED. THAT'S IN CONTRAST TO SECRETARY RUMSFELD'S CLAIM THAT THERE ARE...
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ME. 202-585-3881 IF YOU SUPPORT SENATOR KERRY. IF YOU SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT AND WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OR MAKE A COMMENT, 202-585-3880 AND INDEPENDENTS...
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MILITARY PERSONNEL. NOT ALL OF THAT TRAINING HAS TO HAVE TO BE INSIDE IRAQ. IF OUR ALLIES CAME TOGETHER AND COLLECTIVELY TRAINED EVEN IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES...
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IS BECAUSE I LIKE HIS POLICIES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND BUSH SUPPORT A MAN THAT TOOK US TO
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WAR. HE HAS ADMITTED
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THAT THEY WERE WRONG. THEY DID NOT GET OSAMA BIN LADEN.
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TO ALL THE BUSH SUPPORTERS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WE DON'T HAVE JOBS, THE HEALTH CARE. THIS COUNTRY, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH US TO SUPPORT A MAN...
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CARE, RESTARTING OUR ECONOMY. THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES
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OF JOHN KERRY. FOR PEOPLE TO QUESTION HIS TOUGHNESS I FIND IRONIC. GIVEN THAT HIS COMBAT RECORD IN VIETNAM, GIVEN THAT HE CARRIES AROUND SHRAPNEL IN...
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THAT CONGRESS SAID COULD BE SPENT IN IRAQ AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MANAGED A YEAR LATER TO SPEND LESS THAN $1 BILLION OF THAT. WE DO NOT HAVE IRAQI...
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PEOPLE IN IRAQ, SHOULD BE
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FREE. AND I WOULD
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THINK THAT
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YOU, YOURSELF, SHOULD BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FREE. AND THESE MEN, THESE 1,000 MEN THAT HAVE DIED, DIED SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE...
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WHO, FOR ALMOST TWO CENTURIES, DIDN'T HAVE
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REAL FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY, I SHARE THAT DEEP DESIRE TO SEE FREEDOM EVERYWHERE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS, WE ARE IN A...
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CAPABILITY. NORTH KOREA HAS AN ESTIMATED 8 NUCLEAR WEAPONS NOW, WHERE AS TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO THAT NUMBER WAS ESTIMATED TO BE TWO. IRAN, WHICH...
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POLICY AND GOVERNMENT STUDIES. NEXT TELEPHONE CALLS AS WE DISCUSS THE KERRY CAMPAIGN IS KOCHB TON, VIRGINIA. GOOD MORNING. >> Caller: GOOD MORNING....
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LIES, DECEPTIONS AND SCAMS. THAT'S ONE QUESTION THAT I WANT TO ASK. THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS HOW CAN ANYBODY DICTATE THE PACE OF A WAR BASED ON CIRCUMSTANTIAL...
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THAT. HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT NEARLY AS SAFE AS WE COULD OR SHOULD BE THIS WEEK AS WE MARK THE THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF THE TRAGIC ATTACKS OF 9/11....
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HE HAVE LET SADDAM OUT OF
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PRISON? IF 2001 STATE OF THE UNION, PRESIDENT MENTIONED AXIS OF EVIL IRAN, IRAQ, NORTH KOREA. PAT TILMAN ONE OF THE FINEST AND BRIGHTEST, DIED
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IN
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AFGHANISTAN ON THE PAKISTAN BORDER. NOT IN IRAQ, IN AFGHANISTAN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >> Guest: WELL PAT TILMAN WAS DOING A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AND...
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OR THE INTELLIGENCE ASSETS THERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD HAD WE STAYED AND FINISHED THE JOB, CAPTURED OSAMA BIN LADEN WHEN WE HAD HIM IN OUR SITES. ...
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OF '02 IN WHICH I THINK IT WAS
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IN SAN DIEGO IN WHICH KARL ROVE
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TALKING ABOUT WAR
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ON TERRORISM, WAR ON AFGHANISTAN, WAR ON GENERAL. HE'S QUOTED, THIS IS A QUOTE. WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS TO GET ELECTED. THIS IS A VERY POWERFUL PIECE...
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ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT
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THEIR SIDE SINCE THEY'RE IN POWER. >> Host:
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WHY DON'T YOU STAY WITH US, BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE US. STAY WITH US FOR TEN MORE MINUTES AND WE WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION....
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I DO FEEL THAT JOHN KERRY CRITICIZED THE VIETNAM WAR AFTER HE WAS IN IT. HE DIDN'T
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CRITICIZE IT SOON ENOUGH. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE EARLY '60s. HE DIDN'T CRITICIZE IT UNTIL '71.
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THAT'S WHEN WE WERE FACED WITH THE
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ELECTION BACK IN '72. SO IT WAS, I THINK, POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. I THINK HE'S DOING THE SAME THING WITH THIS WAR. IT'S EASY TO CRITICIZE, BUT IF HE...
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WAS GRAVELY
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WRONG. I THINK THAT TAKES TREMENDOUS
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COURAGE. THAT'S -- WHAT THIS COUNTRY SAUL ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT OUR BEING ABLE TO SPEAK OUR MINDS AND EXERCISE OUR FRANCHISE SO WHEN YESTERDAY VICE PRESIDENT...
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OF IRAQ IS UNCERTAIN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL COME OUT. WHEN WE ASK AND SEEK
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DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. BEYOND THAT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT...
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OF DEEP PERSONAL FRUSTRATION.
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I AM A DEMOCRAT. I'M WATCHING ONE OF THE GREATEST FLIP FLOPPERS. HONESTLY SPEAKING ONE OF THE MOST -- NOT VERY BRIGHT PRESIDENTS WE'VE HAD IN THE...
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WITH GORE HAPPEN ALL OVER AGAIN. I AM SENSING
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IT SLIPG AWAY. IT'S FRUSTRATING ME TERRIBLY. AND WHILE I'M ON THE PHONE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DR. RICE THREE QUESTIONS. EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT -- I KNOW...
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ADMINISTRATION PRESUMABLY INADVERTENTLY LEFT SADDAM HUSSEIN INITIALLY IN AUGUST WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD NOT REACT TO THE INVASION OF KUWAIT....
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WE ARE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS LED OUR COUNTRY
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IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. THAT HE HAS MADE SOME DANGEROUS AND WRONG CHOICES AT GREAT COST AND THAT WE NEED A NEW DIRECTION. WE NEED TO CHANGE COURSE....
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THOSE STATEMENTS OR RECANTED
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THOSE STATEMENTS. IN FACT, THE FACT THAT HE IS CREDITED WITH HELPING THE ENEMY AND VIETNAMESE GENERAL GAP'S BOOK REALLY UPSETS ME. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY,...
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45 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH CARE, 5 MILLION MORE THAN
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WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH TOOK OFFICE. 8 MILLION AMERICANS LOOKING FOR WORK. 2 MILLION MORE THAN WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH TOOK OFFICE. AND A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM...
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SECRETARY OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO TALK ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH'S IRAQ POLICY. >>
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Host:
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.