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ILLINOIS FOR DEBATE NUMBER
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TWO. THIS ONE FINISHED EARLY. IT WAS ONLY 2:15, THE ORIGINAL DEBATE WAS 2:45. SO THE GENTLEMEN PORTRAYING BOTH LINCOLN AND DOUGLAS
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| 00:01:04 |
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READ A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THE ORIGINAL DEBATE WHEN IT WAS CONDUCTED. WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO GO YET BEFORE WE CLOSE IT DOWN, AND WE WANT...
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AMERICAN MENTIONED. IT SEEMED TO ME FOR THE MOST PART THE DEBATE WAS WHAT THOSE IN POWER WERE GOING TO DO FOR THOSE OUT OF POWER. WHAT THE FREE POPULATION...
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| 00:03:21 |
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EVEN BLACK FREEDOM, THE FUTURE OF SLAVERY. THE BASIC ISSUE
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WAS PRETTY LIMITED TO THE QUESTION OF
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THE EXTENSION OF SLAVERY INTO
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THE WESTERN TERRITORIES. NOW, LINCOLN, LIKE MANY
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OTHERS, BELIEVED THAT IF SLAVERY WERE CONFINED AND
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WERE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPAND, IT WOULD SOONER OR LATER AND PROBABLY SOONER DIE A NATURAL DEATH. SO IN THAT SENSE LINCOLN WAS AN ULTIMATE ABOLITIONIST, NOT...
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DO WHICH WAS A SLIGHT HISTORY OF POLITICAL ACTIVITY,
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ESPECIALLY DURING THE HAMILTON CAMPAIGN A FEW YEARS AGO, I THINK TO
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| 00:05:16 |
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SOME EXTENT WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES OR QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED IN THIS DEBATE IN TERMS OF RACE RELATIONS COULD STILL BE POSED...
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| 00:07:04 |
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FOR THE FIRST TIME IN GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA IN 1959 BECAUSE DOUGLAS'S DESCENDANTS WERE LIVING THERE, WHAT CORWIN DID WAS TO ISOLATE CERTAIN SPEECHES...
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| 00:08:40 |
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A THIRD EDITION COPY OF THE LINCOLN/DOUGLAS DEBATES, BUT WHAT MAKES IT WORTH $76,000 IS THIS RIGHT HERE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET A CLOSEUP OF IT. WE'LL...
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| 00:10:04 |
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ON ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> ON ABRAHAM LINCOLN ABOUT FIVE I WOULD SAY. >> WHICH ONE SOLD THE BEST AND FOR WHAT REASON? >> THE LINCOLN NOBODY KNOWS, WHICH...
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| 00:10:23 |
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70,000 COPIES OVER A GREAT MANY YEARS. WELL,
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BECAUSE IT RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS KNOWN ABOUT LINCOLN AND WHAT
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| 00:10:30 |
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WAS NOT KNOWN, HENCE THE LINCOLN NOBODY KNOWS.
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| 00:10:33 |
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IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I KNEW WHO HE WAS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE EQUALLY GOOD EVIDENCE, EQUALLY GOOD AUTHORITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE QUESTION, I THINK YOU...
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| 00:11:11 |
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TO OUR ESSAY CONTEST WINNER FOR THIS STOP HERE IN OTTAWA. >> FOR IN >> FOR IN GOD'S NAME THAT IS A DIVINE SYMPHONY. BUT WHEN YOU CALL UPON ME TO KEEP...
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| 00:11:37 |
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CANNOT DO IT. IT GRATES UPON MY SOUL
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| 00:11:41 |
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LIKE THE VERY DISSIDENTS OF HELL. PERMIT ME A PERSONAL NOTE. WHILE I WAS BESIDE THE PROSTRATE BODY OF MU MURDERED BROTHER ELIJAH, WITH FRESH BLOOD OOZING...
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| 00:15:48 |
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BACK IN THE 1830'S, AN ABOLITIONIST, PRO-SLAVERY GROUPS ATTACKED HIS PRINT SHOP SEVERAL TIMES, AND FINALLY MURDERED HIM. HE WAS LYNCHED, YOU MIGHT SAY....
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| 00:16:03 |
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GAVE HIS LYCEUM SPEECH IN WHICH HE WARNED ABOUT THE DANGERS TO THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC FROM LAW AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE HAD IN MIND WAS THIS LYNCHING...
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| 00:16:36 |
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QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR OUR SPECIAL GUEST. PROFESSOR LINDSEY, AS A BLACK MAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN TODAY? WHERE WOULD YOU PUT...
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| 00:17:10 |
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THAT AT THAT TIMES IT SEEMS THAT AMERICAN HAD A VERY LOW REGARD FOR PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT, AND I THINK IT CAME OUT IN SOME OF LEANINGON'S WORDS. IT...
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| 00:18:24 |
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THEN SLAVERY AND STATES' RIGHTS WERE THE ISSUES THAT SPLIT THE UNITED STATES. TWO SENATORIAL CANDIDATES FROM ILLINOIS, ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND STEPHEN A....
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| 00:19:26 |
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FROM WATCHING THESE DEBATES, BACK IN 1858, THESE TWO MEN DEBATED AND WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT THEIR SIDES IN THESE DEBATES WERE IRRECONCILEABLE AND THEREFORE...
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| 00:19:37 |
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BUT TODAY A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN IN THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, PEOPLE COME OFF CONFUSED AS FAR AS WHERE THE TWO CANDIDATES STAND, AND IT'S-- PEOPLE AREN'T...
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| 00:20:10 |
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LINCOLN-DOUGLAS ESSAY CONTEST? >> I GOT SOMETHING IN THE
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MAIL ABOUT ENTERING THE CONTEST, AND WE HAD
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| 00:20:16 |
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JUST STUDIED ALL OF THIS IN
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| 00:20:18 |
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U.S. HISTORY A YEAR BEFORE AND THOUGHT I'D TAKE A CRACK AT IT AND LATER ON IT TURNED OUT MY GRANDMOTHER SENT ME THIS, SURE I WOULD WIN,
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| 00:20:28 |
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BUT WASN'T WILLING TO TELL ME ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND. >> DID YOU KNOW WHEN
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| 00:20:33 |
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YOU SENT THE ESSAY IN THAT YOU HAD A WINER? >> I HAD MY WISDOM TEETH FULLED THE DAY BEFORE I SENT IT IN, WAS EDITING IT AND I SEPTEMBER IT IN AND I'M...
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| 00:20:53 |
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LOT FROM C-SPAN, ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A BIG, LIVE EVENT LIKE THIS,
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| 00:20:58 |
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IT'S A LOT OF FUN AND AS FAR AS THE HISTORY, WHAT IT MEANT NOW AND WHAT IT MEANT THEN, THE HISTORICAL, IN A SMALL TOWN LIKE THAT, TO REENACT SOMETHING
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| 00:21:08 |
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LIKE THAT AND PUT IT TOGETHER, THAT'S A SPECIAL THING. >> WHAT'S THE NAME OF
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| 00:21:13 |
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YOUR SCHOOL IN LANSING, MICHIGAN? >> LANSING SCHOOL. >> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU GRADUATE? >> MAJOR IN JOURNALISM. >> THANKS FOR TALKING WITH...
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| 00:21:33 |
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YOU BOTH HIS MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER
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| 00:21:35 |
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IF WE CAN FIND THEM BEFORE
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| 00:21:37 |
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THE PROGRAM IS OVER. DO YOU
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| 00:21:39 |
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HAVE ANY IDEA, PROFESSOR CURRENT, HOW MANY
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| 00:21:41 |
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STUDENTS YOU TAUGHT IN YOUR-- ARE
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| 00:21:43 |
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YOU RETIRED? >> YES. I'VE BEEN RETIRED FOR A LONG TIME. WELL, IT'S HARD TO SAY. I'VE TAUGHT AT PLACES THAT HAD AS FEW AS 150 STUDENTS AND HAD PLACED...
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| 00:22:04 |
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DOWN IN GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA. >> YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT TODAY ABOUT STUDENTS NOT BEING INTERESTED IN HISTORY. DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE ONE WAY...
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| 00:22:22 |
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THINK IS INCREASING NOW. BUT, ON
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| 00:22:24 |
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THE OTHER HAND, WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL THE LOCAL HISTORICAL SOCIETIES THROUGHOUT
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| 00:22:28 |
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THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE A GREAT MANY AMATEURS INTERESTED IN HISTORY. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR STUDENTS, PROFESSOR LINDSEY, DO YOU HAVE
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| 00:22:35 |
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MANY TO TEACH? >> IN MY AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY CLASS, USUALLY GET ABOUT 30. >> DO YOU TEACH ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY? >> WORLD...
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| 00:22:53 |
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WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT COMPUTERS. I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW,
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| 00:22:57 |
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THINGS ON "STAR TREK" BUT NOWADAYS STUDENTS ARE COMPUTER LITERATE.
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| 00:23:01 |
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IN TERMS OF HISTORY I
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GET A SPECTER. I GET
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| 00:23:05 |
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SOME STUDENTS LIKE THE YOUNG MAN
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| 00:23:07 |
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WHO WAS-- WHO WON THE CONTEST VERY INTERESTED IN HISTORY AND I GET SOME WHO ARE AMAZED THAT SOME THINGS SIGNIFICANT HAPPENED BEFORE THEY WERE BORN....
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| 00:23:52 |
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FOLKS AND PONTIAC AND STREETER AND JIM WHIT S.O.B. AND MARK WEBER, OUR LEADERS ON A NATIONAL BASIS THAT HAVE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF CRF-SPAN. WE THANK...
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| 00:24:29 |
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WAS THE WAY THE ISSUES WERE DEFINED, AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY DID WELL FOR LINCOLN WAS THE FACT THAT AS TIME MOVED ON, HE MOVED....
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| 00:26:45 |
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TO AGREE WITH THE QUESTIONS, BUT ACCORDING TO COMMON REPUTE, DOUGLAS DID HAVE THE
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| 00:26:50 |
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BETTER OF LINCOLN AT THE FIRST OF THESE DEBATES. >> DID MR. LINCOLN OR MR. DOUGLAS, IF YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY HANDLERS BACK THEN? >> I'M NOT SURE, BUT THEY--...
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| 00:27:14 |
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WE WOULD PROBABLY CALL THEM NOW IN TERMS OF SPIN DOCTORS AND HOW MODERN POLITICIANS HANDLED
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| 00:27:20 |
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CERTAIN ISSUES WAS NOT LOST ON EITHER LINCOLN OR DOUGLAS. >> COULD OWEN LOVEJOY HAVE BEEN A SPIN DOCTOR IN THIS THING? HE CAME UP ON THE STAGE AFTERWARDS...
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| 00:27:46 |
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SAY. >> TAMPA, FLORIDA, GO AHEAD. >> MR. LOVEJOY SAID IT BEST WHEN HE SAID THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS FOUNDED IN TRUTH
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| 00:27:54 |
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AND FREEDOMS. AS MUCH AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, AS MUCH AS THINGS HAVE STAYED THE SAME. THE ONE GENTLEMAN SAID ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS NO BETTER, NO WORSE...
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| 00:28:07 |
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DEMOCRAT LIKE THE GENTLEMAN HE MIGHT BE SAYING THOSE
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| 00:28:10 |
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REPUBLICANS, LOOK AT HOW, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME NOW THAT THE FREEDOMS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STILL STANDS FOR, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE SLAVES...
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| 00:29:11 |
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CITIZENSHIP. IF THE REPUBLICANS COULD GIVE
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| 00:29:13 |
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THEM THAT, THEY SUPPORTED REPUBLICANS. IF DEMOCRATS WOULD GIVE THEM THAT, THEY COULD SUPPORT DEMOCRATS. AT THAT TIME AT LEAST THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SEEMED...
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| 00:30:08 |
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HAVE ENDED? >> WELL, YES, WOULD SLAVELY HAVE ENDED AS SOON AS IT DID? >> I THINK AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, IT IS MY OPINION THAT DURING THE WAR, AFRICAN-AMERICANS...
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| 00:30:27 |
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>> -- DOUGLAS BEEN ELECTED? >> I DON'T KNOW,
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| 00:30:30 |
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THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE
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| 00:30:34 |
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SLAVERY ISSUE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN DECIDED BY A FORCE OF ARMS BECAUSE IT WAS JUST GETTING TOO BIG. AS I SAID, SLAVERY HAD GROWN SINCE...
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| 00:30:44 |
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TIME OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND IT
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| 00:30:46 |
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WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF
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| 00:30:48 |
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AMERICA WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT ENDING
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| 00:30:50 |
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SLAVERY, THAT SLAVERY WOULD HAVE DECLINED AS AMERICA BECAME MORE DEMOCRATIC. INSTEAD, SLAVERY HAD GROWN, IT HAD HARDENED. AGAIN, THE DRED SCOTT CASE...
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| 00:31:35 |
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PEOPLE, THAT THEY WERE EQUAL IN ANY AND EVERY RESPECT. I DIDN'T HEAR EITHER CANDIDATE SAY THAT. LINCOLN TO HIS CREDIT SAID THAT HE DIDN'T
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| 00:31:43 |
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THINK AFRICAN-AMERICANS SHOULD BE SLAVES, BUT THEN AGAIN HE WAS NOT READY TO GIVE THEM FULL, UNFRETTERED CITIZENSHIP AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT'S...
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| 00:32:27 |
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A MOMENT. WE WANT TO TELL THE FOLKS WHO TUNED IN THE
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| 00:32:31 |
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LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES WERE DEBATES FOR U.S.
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| 00:32:33 |
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SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF ILLINOIS IN 1858. WE HAVE A LOT OF MATERIAL FOR PEOPLE IN EDUCATION. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, DROP US A NOTE, AND ASK FOR OUR EDUCATION...
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| 00:34:04 |
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WHEN I'M LISTENING TO THE
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| 00:34:06 |
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CONVERSATION LATELY, THEY ARE NOT
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| 00:34:08 |
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IMMERSING THEM SELVES IN THE TILES. FOR INSTANCE, SLAVERY WAS DYING OUT-- FROM THE 18 HURN'S ON IT WAS DYING OUT BUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS REVOLUTIONIZED...
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| 00:35:13 |
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BEGINNING. IT WASN'T UNTIL AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE FINALLY ALLOWED TO JOIN THE WAR
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| 00:35:20 |
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THAT SUPPOSEDLY WAS FOUGHT TO END SLAVERY. >> HOW MANY BLACKS FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR? >> ABOUT-- I THINK 186,000. >> LET ME GET PROFESSOR'S CURRENT'S...
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| 00:35:44 |
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OF SLAVERY AND THE TERRITORIES AND THE FUTURE
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| 00:35:47 |
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OF SLAVERY BECAUSE
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| 00:35:48 |
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SOME PEOPLE MAINTAINED THAT SLAVERY WOULD SOONER OR LATER, AND PROBABLY SOONER, HAVE DIED
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| 00:35:53 |
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OUT FOR NATURAL REASONS, ECONOMIC REASONS, BUT THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT. IF LINCOLN AND THE REPUBLICANS HAD NOT TAKEN A STAND AGAINST THE...
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| 00:36:41 |
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IN THIS CASE OTTAWA. NEXT WEEK FREPORT AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER WILL BE JONESBORO AND CHARLESTON AND ON TO GALESBERG, QUINCY AND FINALLY ALTON, ILLINOIS,...
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| 00:37:22 |
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DID YOU PREPARE? >> READ THE SCRIPT OVER, AND OVER, VERBALIZED AT LEAST ONCE A DAY AND SORT OF TOOK AND LET IT GO WITH WHATEVER CAME ALONG. >> WHAT WAS...
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| 00:37:37 |
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TO SAY I DON'T REMEMBER THE CROWD BEING OUT THERE. AT THAT POINT I WAS LOST
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| 00:37:42 |
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IN WHAT I WAS DOING, AND
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| 00:37:44 |
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AS I SAID A WHILE AGO, A 5-52 DO HAVE LANDED ON THE STAGE AND I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN IT. I KNOW WHEN I WAS
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| 00:37:52 |
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THROUGH THEY ASKED ME TO SIT DOWN AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I REMEMBER ABOUT THE THING. >> JIM GAYAN,
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| 00:37:58 |
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HOW ABOUT YOU? >> HE TOOK ALL THE GOOD WORDS, BUT BASICALLY, YEAH, ONCE WE GOT STARTED, IT WAS FINE. IT WAS STARTING AT REDDICKS AND WALKING DOWN AND...
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| 00:38:18 |
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LIFELINE, YOU KNOW, DO IT AS HARD AND AS FULL
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| 00:38:21 |
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AS YOU CAN, AND THE TIME GOES QUICKLY. BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A THOUSAND YEARS, SITTING IN BETWEEN, THAT WAS AWFUL. SOME GUY CAME...
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| 00:39:04 |
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IRONING BOARD ROOM, AND BASICALLY JUST READING IT ALOUD, AS LOUD AS I COULD,
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| 00:39:08 |
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TO KIND OF TOUGHEN UP MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE FOR MY WIFE HAVE CHO SENSITIVE AND SENSITIVE AND SHE KEPT SAYING DON'T SAY THIS, YOU SOUND LIKE...
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| 00:39:51 |
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CERTAINLY WAS VERY HIGHLY HONORED THAT THEY
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| 00:39:53 |
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WOULD LET ME COME AND DO IT TWO YEARS IN
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| 00:39:56 |
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A ROW SO I HAD DONE IT ONCE BEFORE SO THEY SORT OF KNEW WHAT I COULD OR COULDN'T DO SO THAT WAS MY-- MY IN TO THE COMMITTEE. >> AND YOU PLAY ABRAHAM...
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| 00:40:25 |
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TO FIND OUT. >> IN FACT, FROM YOUR BIOGRAPHY HERE IS SAYS YOU WERE A VICE PRESIDENT,
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| 00:40:30 |
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THIS REALLY AMAZED ME, OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LINCOLN PRESENTERS. HOW MANY OF THEM ARE THERE? >> SO FAR WE'VE LOCATED AT LEAST 84 GENTLEMEN...
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| 00:40:39 |
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SOMEWHAT REGULARLY. THERE ARE PROBABLY 12, MAYBE 15 LADIES WHO
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| 00:40:42 |
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DO MARY TODD LINCOLN AND THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE COUPLES WHO DO ABRAHAM AND
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| 00:40:47 |
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MARY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO, SORT OF OUR NICHE AS WE DO BOTH ABRAHAM AND MARY. SO THE ASSOCIATION IS GROWING QUITE WELL. >> JIM GAYAN, HOW ABOUT...
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| 00:40:57 |
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HOW DID YOU FIRST GET INTERESTED IN THE ROLE? >> WELL, THERE WAS NOTHING DEMOCRATIC ABOUT IT AT ALL. MAYOR BUCK IS RETIRED HISTORY TEACHER AT OTTAWA TOWNSHIP...
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| 00:41:16 |
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HERE, I WANT YOU TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE. AND SANDY BURNS SAID,
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| 00:41:20 |
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"PLEASE, WOULD YOU DO THIS." AND C-SPAN IS INVOLVED, AND WE NEED YOU, AND THE FIRST THING OUT OF MY MOUTH WAS DO I HAVE TO MEMORIZE IT BECAUSE IF THEY...
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| 00:42:22 |
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WHEN I GOT MY MASTER OF ARTS IN THEATER AND
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| 00:42:25 |
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WORK AT, IT OVERWORK EVERYTHING, BACK OFF WHEN IT'S TOO BIG AND JUST WORK IT OUT PHYSICALLY, AND READ AND READ
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| 00:42:32 |
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AND READ AND READ AND READ, BECAUSE ALL THE DICTION
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| 00:42:35 |
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IS THERE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE JUDGE, LOOK AT HIS CHOICE OF WORDS AND PHRASES AND THEN YOU FIND OUT ABOUT HIS CHARACTER. >> I'D LIKE TO SHOW...
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| 00:43:05 |
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I HAVE PALE SKIN, ONE OR THE OTHER. >> WHY LONG JOHNS? >> THAT'S WHAT THEY WORE IN THE 1850'S, CALLED PANTALOONS,ED UNDERWEAR OF THE DAY AND THE QUESTION...
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| 00:43:25 |
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SHIRT, A FROCK AND A SHIRT ON TOP OF THAT. HOW
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| 00:43:29 |
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UNCOMFORTABLE IS THIS? >> WE
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| 00:43:31 |
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GET DAMP EARLY IN THE DAY BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING BUT IF I'M GOING TO PORTRAY THE GENTLEMAN I WANT TO PORTRAY HIM AS CLOSELY AS I CAN GET...
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| 00:43:44 |
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>> WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU IN YOUR DOUGLAS CAREER? >> NOTHING. I START TEACHING MONDAY, NOT A THING. I JUST GO BACK AND TEACH, THAT'S
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| 00:43:53 |
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ALL. WE HOPE TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE MY VOTE-- WHERE IS CAROL SANDBERG, I'M BLANKING OUT AGAINST, GALESBERG, I'D LIKE THE FOUR OF US TO GO TO GALESBURG,...
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| 00:44:06 |
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SAY, HA-HA,
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| 00:44:07 |
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YOU'VE GUYS HAVE GOT TO DO THIS. WE'VE STRUCK UP A GOOD FRIENDSHIP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. >> LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES. >> SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO,...
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| 00:44:34 |
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THAT MARY TODD WAS COURTED BY BOTH SENATOR DOUGLAS
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| 00:44:37 |
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AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH THAT INFORMATION.
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| 00:44:41 |
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THE OTHER THING I MUST CORRECT OF SUSAN SWAIN'S, BECAUSE KEITH WAREHEIM SAID THIS EARLIER, SHE WAS NOT
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| 00:44:47 |
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SITTING ON A
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| 00:44:48 |
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HAY BAIL BUT
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| 00:44:49 |
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A STRAW BAIL.
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| 00:44:50 |
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I'M NOT SURE WHY HE CARES ABOUT THAT, NOW WE KNOW THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SITTING ON A HAY BAIL, SOME OF YOU FOLKS OUT THERE CLOSER TO THE FARM THAN...
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| 00:45:31 |
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FROM SCHOOLS, EITHER HIGH SCHOOL OR COLLEGE DID THE INTEREST COME. >> PROFESSOR LINDSEY? >> I THINK I'D ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN HISTORY IN ONE FORM...
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| 00:45:55 |
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TOLD THAT HISTORY WAS NOT THE FIELD TO
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| 00:45:58 |
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GO INTO AND THERE WERE TOO MANY HISTORY TEACHERS, SO I WAS GOING TO BE A SPANISH MAJOR FOR A WHILE AND THEN A PHYSICAL EDUCATION MAJOR AND FINE LYNN DSH...
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| 00:46:42 |
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MOTHER. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE FROM THE SURROUNDING STATES, WISCONSIN AND CEDAR RAPIDS, IOWA AND SOME FOLKS FROM DOWN SOUTH. I MENTIONED THIS, BECAUSE...
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| 00:48:01 |
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THE WHOLE IDEA OF SLAVERY. STILL NOT WILLING TO ADMIT THE BLACK RACE AS AN EQUAL AND WILLING TO USE THE FORCE OF THE-- OF THE UNION TO FORCE EVERY STATE...
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| 00:49:20 |
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COULDN'T SAY THAT HE WAS AN ABOLITIONIST, CERTAINLY.
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| 00:49:23 |
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ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU COULDN'T SAY THAT HE WAS NECESSARILY PRO-SLAVERY. WHAT HE SAID WAS IN THE COURSE OF THE DEBATES ABOUT SLAVERY AND THE TERRITORIES,...
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| 00:50:08 |
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BE SLAVES AND ALL THAT, THEN YOU THINK THEY SHOULDS BE INCLUDED IN THE BOD OWE POLITIC. TO SOME EXTENT THIS DEBATE HAS SHOWN THERE IS A DIFFERENCE STILL,...
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| 00:51:03 |
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>> NUMBER ONE, BE HAPPY, BRIAN, BECAUSE I'M A BOILERMAKER SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERDUE MAN ON ONE OF THE STANDS. POINT TWO, EARLIER
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| 00:51:13 |
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YOU HAD ASKED HAROLD HOLZER ABOUT THE POPULATION
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| 00:51:16 |
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OF MY ILLINOIS AND I RAN TO MY ALMANAC,
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| 00:51:19 |
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VERY INTERESTING, IN 18508 ILLINOIS WAS 11th OUT
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| 00:51:22 |
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OF 31 STATES WITH A POPULATION OF 851,000, BUT
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| 00:51:25 |
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DURING THE DECADE OF THE 1850'S IT WAS THE FASTEST-GROWING STATE IN THE UNION. BY 18609 POPULATION HAD DOUBLED, AND IT WAS THE FOURTH AMONG 33. SO IT...
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| 00:52:39 |
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SO YOU DON'T GIVE IT
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OUT OVER THE AIR. >> FINE. >> BECAUSE THE
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CHANCES OF YOU REMAINING A PRIVATE CITIZEN ARE REMOTE IF YOU EVER GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER OVER THE AIR. LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. WHAT KIND OF PREPARATION...
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| 00:53:02 |
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ARE IN THE WORD PROCESSOR
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WITH THE APPROPRIATE BREAK POINTS FOR AUDIENCE INTERRUPTIONS, AND THE TWO ACTORS AND THE COORDINATOR ARE GOING TO MAKE THE DETAILED NOTES AS TO WHO IS...
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| 00:53:20 |
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BUT THE-- THE REHEARSALS WILL BEGIN IN ERNEST RIGHT AFTER LABOR DAY WITH THE 100 OR 120 OR SO SPEAKING CHARACTERS THAT WE HAVE. >> WHAT KIND OF A CROWD...
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| 00:53:51 |
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HAVING PERIOD COSTUMES, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RUN YOUR CAMERAS OUT SOME
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| 00:53:57 |
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DISTANCE FROM THE SPEAKERS ROSTRUM AND STILL CATCH BASICALLY A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN KOSS ACTUAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I-- I WAS REALLY,...
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| 00:54:45 |
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SMALL TOWN OF ABOUT 17,500 PEOPLE. THERE'S
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| 00:54:48 |
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THE MAN, MAX DAN WELLS, THAT PLAYED
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| 00:54:51 |
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ABRAHAM LINCOLN, AND WE UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT A CALL FROM VERSAILLES, CALIFORNIA. ARE YOU THERE? HELLO, CALIFORNIA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, I CAN. ...
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| 00:55:21 |
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ANOTHER SPECIES, YOU KNOW, AND
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| 00:55:23 |
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IT'S-- YOU GUYS USE IT AS SOME BIG
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| 00:55:26 |
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DEBATE. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DEBATE. HOW WOULD ANOTHER HUMAN LIKE TO TREAT ANOTHER HUMAN LIKE AN ANIMAL OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW? >> OKAY. THANKS. PROFESSOR...
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| 00:55:55 |
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IT FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU HEAR SOME
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OF THE LANGUAGE, AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORD, OF COURSE, THAT EVERYBODY IS AFRAID TO USE, UNDERSTANDABLY SO, IS THE WORD "NIGGER" AND YOU SEE THAT
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| 00:56:08 |
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THROUGHOUT THESE ENTIRE DEBATES AND SEE BOTH SIDES USING IT. WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE? >> I WAS NOTICING EVEN
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| 00:56:16 |
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NOW, SEEING THE-- THE WAY THEY WERE TALKING, IT AFFECTS ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL. IT STILL IS JUST VERY UNPLEASANT. AND TO KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS OF THIS...
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| 00:56:36 |
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INTOLERANCE THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. AT THAT TIME. THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, AND FROM THE CROWD REACTION, THEY DIDN'T SEE ANY CONTRADICTION OR DIDN'T SEEM...
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| 00:57:27 |
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ACTUALLY DID USE THAT WORD SO OFTEN AS HE'S QUOTED IN THE DEBATES OR IF HE USE IT HAD AT ALL. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IN HAROLD HOLZER'S VERSIONS...
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| 00:57:46 |
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SPEECHES AND THE DEMOCRATIC REPORTS OF LINCOLN'S SPEECHES AND THESE ARE JUST WHAT NEWSPAPER REPORTERS WROTE UP. THERE'S NO TAPE RECORDING OF LINCOLN...
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| 00:58:26 |
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YOU FROM, MICHAEL? >> I LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON, BUT OTTAWA IS MY HOMETOWN WHERE I GREW UP. >> TELL ME, HOW MUCH OF THE DEBATE
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| 00:58:34 |
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DID YOU SIT AND LISTEN TO? >> ALMOST ALL OF IT. IN BLOOMINGTON I TURNED IT ON WHEN IT CAME ON AT 12:00 NOON, GOT ME VERY EXCITED, I IMMEDIATELY HOPPED...
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| 00:58:44 |
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THE CAR AND CAME HERE AND
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| 00:58:46 |
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LITERALLY WALKED INTO THE PARK RIGHT WHEN
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| 00:58:48 |
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THE DEBATE WAS BEGINNING SO IT WAS PERFECT TIMING ALL AROUND. >> HAD YOU BEEN
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| 00:58:53 |
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INTERESTED IN THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES BEFORE? >> OH, YES, I GREW UP IN
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| 00:58:57 |
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THIS AREA HEARING ALL KINDS OF STORIES ABOUT IT EVER SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID, REALLY, AND SEEING THE PLAQUES IN THE PARK HERE AND KNOWING IT TOOK PLACE...
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| 00:59:13 |
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>> DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING TODAY? >> I LEARNED THAT BACK THEN
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| 00:59:17 |
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POLITICAL SPEAKERS TALKED A LOT LONGER THAN THEY DO TODAY. THERE'S GOOD AND BAD TO ALL OF THAT, I GUESS, BUT, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN THING...
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| 00:59:34 |
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WATCHING THE DEBATE IN PERSON? >> BASICALLY
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| 00:59:36 |
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I WAS-- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I CAME DOWN WHEN IT STARTED AT NOON, AND THEN I WENT HOME AND WATCH IT HAD ON TV, AND CAME BACK FOR THE FINAL-- FOR THE...
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| 00:59:53 |
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WONDERFUL. >> TELL ME YOUR NAME. >> GARY OSSIPIK, FROM OTTAWA. >> OTTAWA
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| 00:59:57 |
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HAS HAD DEBARRETT REENACTMENTS IN THE PAST. HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THEM BEFORE? >> THEY HAVE HAD THREE AND I'VE BEEN TO ALL THREE, WHYY. >> DO YOU CONSIDER...
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| 01:00:14 |
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IT WAS REALLY LIKE BACK IN
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| 01:00:16 |
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1858. >> WHAT'S
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| 01:00:17 |
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YOUR NAME? >> MARGE DENNY FROM HAMMOND, INDIANA. >> WHERE IS THAT? >> ABOUT 65 MILES. >> WHY DID
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| 01:00:23 |
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YOU COME TO THE DEBATES? >> I'M VERY INTERESTED IN ABRAHAM
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| 01:00:26 |
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LINCOLN AND THE LINCOLN FAMILY AND THE PRESIDENT PART OF
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| 01:00:29 |
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HIS LIFE, AND I'VE NEVER BEEN TO
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| 01:00:31 |
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A DEBATE BEFORE SO I WAS ANXIOUS TO
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| 01:00:33 |
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COME AND IT WAS VERY, VERY NICE. >> DID YOU FEEL YOU LEARNED ANYTHING
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| 01:00:37 |
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OR JUST TAKE
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| 01:00:38 |
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IN THE EXPERIENCE? >> OH, YES, YOU'RE NEVER
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| 01:00:40 |
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TOO OLD TO
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| 01:00:41 |
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LEARN. I LEARNED QUITE A BIT. >>
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| 01:00:43 |
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LIKE WHAT? >> LIKE HE SAID, THIS
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| 01:00:45 |
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YOUNG MAN SAID, IT WAS QUITE LONG, YOU KNOW. THEY SPOKE QUITE LONG COMPARED TO WHAT-- THE WAY THEY SPEAK TODAY. AND LITTLE OTHER THINGS, LOTS OF THINGS....
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| 01:00:56 |
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TODAY'S POLITICIANS TALKING FOR THREE HOURS? >> I DON'T THINK SO. >> WHY NOT?
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| 01:01:00 |
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>> THAT'S TOO LONG. I THINK YOU LOSE INTEREST. >> YOU
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| 01:01:03 |
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THINK YOU COULD SIT AND LISTEN TO
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| 01:01:05 |
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A POLITICAL SPEECH FOR THREE HOURS? >> NOT AT ALL, I JUST COULDN'T, NO. >> AND YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN POLITICS. DO YOU THINK YOU COULD SIT FOR THREE...
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| 01:01:14 |
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LISTEN TODAY? >> I HAVE AN INTEREST IN POLITICS, BUT EVEN ONES WHO SPEAK THREE HOURS TODAY, IT'S
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| 01:01:19 |
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STILL REPETIVE AND
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| 01:01:20 |
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DON'T GET TO A POINT. >> WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE COULD IN THE PAST?
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| 01:01:24 |
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>> WELL, IT WAS A MUCH SMALLER WORLD TO A LOT OF
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| 01:01:28 |
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PEOPLE IN THE PAST, AND
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| 01:01:30 |
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THIS WAS PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE WORLD SPEAKING TO THEM AT THAT TIME. UNLIKE NOW, YOU
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| 01:01:36 |
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DON'T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR TO SEE THE REAL WHOLE WORLD, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO-- TO, YOU
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| 01:01:43 |
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KNOW, PRETEND YOU'RE SOMETHING THAT
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| 01:01:45 |
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YOU'RE NOT AS MUCH THESE DAYS. >> FOLKS, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR TALKING TO US. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> THANKS, SUSAN, AND WE HAVE A...
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| 01:02:09 |
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FLORIDA, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >>
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| 01:02:11 |
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THANK YOU. I
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| 01:02:12 |
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JUST HEARD THE
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| 01:02:13 |
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LADY THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE ON THE--
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| 01:02:16 |
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ON THE GROUND SPEAKING, AND SHE WAS-- SHE WAS SAYING WOULD YOU SPEND THREE HOURS LISTENING TO A POLITICIAN TODAY, AND
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| 01:02:24 |
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MY POINT IS THAT THE
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| 01:02:26 |
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DEBATES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS
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| 01:02:28 |
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SO YOU
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| 01:02:29 |
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WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT WHAT I
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| 01:02:31 |
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WANTED TO KNOW IS MORE ABOUT THE DRED SCOTT DECISION IN-- OR 1856. COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. >> THANKS. >> OKAY. >> PROFESSOR LINDSEY?...
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| 01:02:58 |
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COULDN'T SUE AS
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| 01:02:59 |
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A SLAVE. THE
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| 01:03:00 |
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SUPREME COURT IN ESSENCE SAID THAT
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| 01:03:02 |
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SCOTT COULD NOT BRING SUIT BECAUSE SCOTT WAS BLACK, AND, THEREFORE, IN JUDGE TANNER'S WORDS, HAD NO RIGHTS WHICH ANY WHITE MAN WAS BOUND TO RESPECT,...
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| 01:04:35 |
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>> WELL, IT MEANS THAT LINCOLN DID NOT BELIEVE THAT A BLACK MAN HAD NO RIGHTS THAT A WHITE MAN WAS BOUND TO RESPECT, AND HE DID NOT BELIEVE, AS THE DRED...
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| 01:04:54 |
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HE OR SHE MUST REMAIN A
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| 01:04:56 |
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SLAVE. LINCOLN DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK THIS. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, THE NAMES THAT TALKED ABOUT AND REVERED SO MUCH, GEORGE...
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| 01:05:21 |
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REAL THREM A. HE SAID WE HAVE THE BEAR BY THE TAIL AND WE CAN'T LET GO. HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, WELL, WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF SLAVERY WERE ABOLISHED...
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| 01:05:40 |
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THAT IS, SENDING FREED SLAVES OUT OF THE COUNTRY TO AFRICA OR TO CENTRAL AMERICA OR TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> LIBERIA AND AFRICA AND MONROV YAR, NAMED...
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| 01:06:10 |
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BORN, EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR, THAN WERE BEING FREED BY THE COLONIZATIONISTS. >> PROFESSOR
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| 01:06:16 |
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LINDSEY, YOU SAID 136 YEARS LATER, THINGS STILL AREN'T THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS SO HARD? >> TO SOME EXTENT IT STARTED WITH...
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| 01:06:37 |
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THE FOUNDING FATHERS AND MANY PEOPLE OF EUROPEAN DESCENDENT AT THAT TIME DID NOT VIEW AFRICAN-AMERICANS AS HUMAN. THAT'S STILL THE BASIC QUESTION TODAY....
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| 01:06:47 |
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OF HUMANITYITY, NOT JUST CITIZENSHIP, IF YOU'RE A HUMAN YOU CAN BECOME A CITIZEN. TO ME WHEN DRED SCOTT SAID YOU CANNOT BECOME A CITIZEN, IT WAS BECAUSE,...
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| 01:08:01 |
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IS YOUR FAVORITE WHITE AMERICAN IN HISTORY? >> I'M GLAD YOU REPHRASED THAT. KENNEDY, JOHN F. KENNEDY. >> SAME QUESTION. >> MY FAVORITE BLACK
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| 01:08:13 |
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WOULD BE FREDERICK DOUGLASS OR WEB DEBOYCE, ONE OF THE TWO. MY FAVORITE WHITE
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| 01:08:20 |
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AMERICAN IS NOT LINCOLN BUT WEBSTER OR BENJAMIN FRANKLIN. >> WHY IS THAT? >>
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| 01:08:27 |
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I THINK BENJAMIN FRANKLIN IS THE
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| 01:08:30 |
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GREATEST PERSON EVER TO LIVE NEXT
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| 01:08:33 |
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TO JESUS CHRIST, A VERY VERSATILE MAN, VERY BRILLIANT IN MANY RESPECTS, NOT A TYPICAL AMERICAN IN SOME WAYS, BUT, YES, IN OTHER WAYS, AND DOUGLAS--...
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| 01:08:46 |
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COMPANY. HE LIKED GOOD LIQUOR, GOOD FOOD,
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| 01:08:49 |
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GOOD STORIES, AND IF YOU WERE ONE OF HIS FRIENDS IN HIS CROWD, WELL, THAT WAS REAL LIVING. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HERE PROFESSOR CURRENT TALK...
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| 01:09:18 |
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PAUL ROBEISON AS A MATTER OF FACT. >> MARCUS GARVEY LIVED WHEN AND WHY IS HE YOUR HERO? >> BORN IN 1857 IN JAMAICA,
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| 01:09:28 |
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CAME HERE, ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES TEN YEARS, REPORTED BACK TO JAMAICA, BUT HE LAID THE IDOL CALL GROUND WORK FOR THE BLACK NATIONALIST MOMENT AND...
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| 01:09:43 |
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MUSLIMS, FARRAKHAN AND MALCOLM X OR ANY BLACK NATIONALIST, TO SOME EXTENT, THEY ARE
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| 01:09:48 |
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TALKING A REINTERPRETATION OF GARVEY WHO GOT MUCH OF HIS INSPIRATION FROM BOOKER T. WASHINGTON. >> GARVEY'S MAIN PROGRAM WAS BACK TO OF A CHARACTERS...
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| 01:10:15 |
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IN THIS COUNTRY, THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, TO GET A SPIRITUAL REAWAKENING WOULD HAVE TO AT LEAST BEGIN TO THINK IN TERMS OF AFRICA. WHETHER HE WAS
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| 01:10:25 |
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GOING TO GO BACK OR NOT, I THINK THAT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR. HE NEVER SET FOOT ON THE AFRICAN CONTINENT. >> BUT MANY OF HIS FOLLOWERS THOUGHT THIS IS...
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| 01:10:54 |
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IN THE SQUARE HERE, AND GREAT FALLS, VIRGINIA, BACK IN WASHINGTON ON THE LINE. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE
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| 01:10:59 |
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CALL AND GO TO SUSAN FIRST FOR A GROUP OF DRAMA STUDENTS WE UNDERSTAND. >> THAT'S RIGHT, BRIAN. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO...
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| 01:11:12 |
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SCHOOL YOU GO TO AND HOW YOU GOT INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT? >> OTTAWA HIGH SCHOOL AND WAS IN THE SUMMER PLAY THIS YEAR AND DECIDED TO GET INTO SPEECH...
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| 01:11:23 |
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WHAT'S YOUR NAME, PLEASE, AND YOU WERE SESAME SCHOOL? >> MY NAME IS CARRIE ROBINSON, GOT INVOLVED THE SAME WAY SHE DID. >> WHAT GRADE
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| 01:11:30 |
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YOU IN? >> TENTH. >> TELL ME A
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| 01:11:32 |
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BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARNED FROM BEING INVOLVED IN THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS PROJECT. >> ABOUT HOW HOT THESE DRESSES
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| 01:11:37 |
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ARE AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE-- TO BE A WOMAN BACK IN THE 1850'S. >> WHAT DID YOU ELEVEN ABOUT BEING
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| 01:11:44 |
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A WOMAN IN THE 1850'S? >> YOUR
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| 01:11:46 |
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HUSBAND CONTROLLED A LOT OF WHAT YOU DID, WHAT YOU THOUGHT. YOU DIDN'T--
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| 01:11:50 |
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YOU DIDN'T USUALLY TRAVEL ALONE. IN THIS CASE, IN MY
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| 01:11:53 |
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CHARACTER THAT I PORTRAYED, I DID TRAVEL ALONE, WHICH WAS--
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| 01:11:56 |
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WHICH WAS A BIG DEAL FOR ME. IT WAS-- IT WAS REALLY FUN. I REALLY LIKED THIS. >> TELL ME YOUR NAME AND YOUR
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| 01:12:03 |
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AGE AND WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL? >> I'M ADAM ROWLE, I'M 14 AND
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| 01:12:07 |
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GO TO OTTAWA HIGH. >> HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES PROJECT? >> I WAS IN THE SUMMER PLAY LIKE MEEGAN WAS AND WE JOINED THE...
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| 01:12:22 |
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ME WHAT YOU LEARNED? >> I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT LIKE HOW THE MEN RULED THE WOMEN
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| 01:12:27 |
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AND MEN SAID EVERYTHING AND IT WAS-- I MEAN, JUST
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| 01:12:30 |
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ABOUT SLAVERY AND-- I LEARNED A LOT. >> WHAT WAS
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| 01:12:33 |
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IT LIKE STANDING THERE FOR THREE HOURS? >> TIRING. >> WHY? >> BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO SIT DURING THE WHOLE THING, AND JUST GOT HOT. >> DID YOU...
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| 01:12:43 |
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AND HOW DIFFICULT WAS IT TO FOLLOW
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| 01:12:45 |
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THE WORDS ALONG? >> IT WASN'T HARD. >> WERE YOU EVER NERVOUS? >> I DON'T THINK I WAS NERVOUS EXACTLY, NO, MAYBE MORE NERVOUS NOW THAN I WAS
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| 01:12:53 |
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WHEN I WAS DOING THIS. >> DO
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| 01:12:55 |
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YOU KNOW WHO
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| 01:12:56 |
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YOU WOULD HAVE
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| 01:12:57 |
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SUPPORTED BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE TWO? >> I THINK I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED LINCOLN. >>
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| 01:13:02 |
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WHY? >> BECAUSE I THINK SLAVERY IS
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| 01:13:04 |
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DEFINITELY AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO
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| 01:13:06 |
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DEAL WITH AND IT'S NOT-- IT WASN'T
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| 01:13:08 |
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RIGHT. >> DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU
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| 01:13:10 |
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WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED? >> I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED LINCOLN, TOO, BECAUSE, I MEAN, SLAVERY, IT'S-- IT'S NOT RIGHT. I MEAN,
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| 01:13:16 |
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IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO
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| 01:13:21 |
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BE DIFFERENT ABOUT
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| 01:13:22 |
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THE WAY YOU LOOK
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| 01:13:23 |
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AT HISTORY OR THE WAY YOU STUDY HISTORY HAVING BEEN PART OF THIS PROJECT? >> IT WILL BE MORE INTERESTING. >> CAN YOU TELL
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| 01:13:30 |
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ME WHY? >> YEAH, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN--
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| 01:13:32 |
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IT'S LIKE-- I'VE EXPERIENCED IT. >> OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING TODAY. I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF HOURS INTO THIS AND FOR TALKING
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| 01:13:40 |
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TO US THIS AFTERNOON. >> PROFESSOR RICHARD CURRENT, PROFESSOR EMERITUS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA AT GREENSBORO IS WITH US
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| 01:13:48 |
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AND HOWARD LINDSEY, PROFESSOR OF
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| 01:13:50 |
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THE DEPARTMENT OF
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| 01:13:51 |
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HISTORY AT DEPAUW UNIVERSITY IN
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| 01:13:53 |
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CHICAGO AND WE HAVE A CALL WAIT INTERESTING GREAT FALLS, VIRGINIA. THANKS FOR WAITING. >> MY COMMENTS ARE SIMPLE AND STRAIGHT FORWARD. THREE CHEERS
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| 01:14:02 |
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FOR BRIAN LAMB. THREE CHEERS FOR C-SPAN. THREE CHEERS FOR THE REENACTORS, THREE CHEERS FOR ALL THE PARTICIPANTS. HIP, HIP, HORRAY. HIP, HIP, HORRAY....
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| 01:14:20 |
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PLEASE. >> YES, BRIAN. I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO C-SPAN EVER SINCE IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE IN BIRMINGHAM, MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CALLED YOU. I'VE...
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| 01:14:34 |
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LINDSEY. EARLIER HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION CONCERNING
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| 01:14:37 |
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HOW LINCOLN STANDS. I THINK IT WAS WITH HIM, AND
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| 01:14:41 |
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HE COMMENTED HOW I THINK PERHAPS LINCOLN STOOD WITH HIM CIRCA 1850 OR SO. HOW DOES LINCOLN STAND WITH HIM IN HISTORY TODAY AND THE OTHER PART IS FOR...
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| 01:15:34 |
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IN DISSOLUTION. FOR ME PERSONALLY AS I
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| 01:15:37 |
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SAID, FOR ME PERSONALLY, MY GREATEST PRESIDENT AND PROBABLY ONE OF MY PERSONAL HEROES WOULD BE
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| 01:15:43 |
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JOHN KENNEDY, BECAUSE I GUESS MAYBE A TIME I WAS GROWING UP AND HIS-- HE
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| 01:15:49 |
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KIND OF INSPIRED PEOPLE OF MY GENERATION, AT LEAST, AND I THINK TO SOME EXTENT THAT HAS REMAINED A PART OF MY PSYCHE SINCE I CAN REMEMBER HIM-- I WAS...
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| 01:16:24 |
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DISAPPEARED FOR ECONOMIC REASONS. SLAVERY
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| 01:16:26 |
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IS CONSISTENT WITH AN INDUSTRIALIZED SOCIETY AS WELL AS WITH AN EGRAYERIAN SOCIETY. NO REASON TO THINK THAT SLAVERY WOULD HAVE DIED OUT. THE OTHER QUESTION...
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| 01:17:23 |
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IS FAR SOUTH, DOWN IN AN AREA CALLED LITTLE EGYPT IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, AND THAT'S ON A SATURDAY AND THE NEXT DAY IN CHARLESTON, ON THE 18th OF SEPTEMBER,...
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| 01:18:34 |
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ABOUT A BLACK PERSON'S LAW TO PLANT THEIR OWN WHEAT, MAKE THEIR OWN BREAD, THAT SORT OF THING AND THAT WAY HE SAID HE WAS JUDGE DOUGLAS' EQUAL AND EVERYBODY...
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| 01:20:03 |
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IT NOW, IT SEEMED TO ME PROBABLY DOUGLAS WON
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| 01:20:06 |
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THE DEBATES, DOUGLAS HAD MORE OF THE CROWD REACTION, BUT I THINK THE-- THE POINT IS, WELL, MAKE-- THAT THE GENTLEMAN MADE WAS WELL MADE, THAT TO SOME...
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| 01:20:20 |
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TALKING ABOUT THAT MIDDLE GROUND. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MIDDLE GROUND HERE, NEITHER CANDIDATE WAS WILLING TO GO AS FAR AS TO GRANT BLACKS FULL SOCIAL...
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| 01:20:54 |
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HAD GREAT ADVANTAGES OVER OTHERS. ADMITTEDLY THE DISADVANTAGE OF THE BLACKS WAS GREATER PERHAPS THAN ANY OF THE WHITES, BUT, WELL, INEQUALITY IS HARD...
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| 01:21:09 |
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COURSE. >> I WANT TO PASS ON TO OUR VIEWERS THAT IN 1858 THESE WERE DEBATES FOR THE SENATE RACE, NOT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE OF 1818. IN THOSE DAYS THE...
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| 01:21:32 |
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THIRD TERM? >> I THINK IT WAS, YES. >> AND WENT ON TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT IN 1860 AND RUN AGAINST ABRAHAM LINCOLN ALONG WITH TWO OTHER MEN,...
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| 01:21:55 |
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>> YEAH, BUT THAT'S-- THAT'S ACTUALLY-- THREE-FIFTHS REFERRED
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| 01:21:58 |
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TO THE NUMBER OF BLACKS. >> THREE-FIFTHS OF A PERSON. >> WE HAVE A CALL WAITING, A MAN WHO SAYS HE'S PLAYING ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN GALESBERG BY THE NAME...
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| 01:22:16 |
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MIKE, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? >> MICHAEL CREBBS. >> AND YOU'RE PLAYING LINCOLN IN
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| 01:22:21 |
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GALESBERG? >> ON NX COLLEGE CAMPUS, THAT'S RIGHT,
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| 01:22:24 |
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IN FRONT OF THE OLD MAIN BUILDING WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE ONLY STILL ACTUAL EXISTING SITE OF THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES. AND JUST WANTED
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| 01:22:33 |
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TO COMMENT ON MR. HOLZER'S COMMENT EARLIER, THAT OTTAWA BEING HIS
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| 01:22:37 |
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FAVORITE DEBATE, I
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| 01:22:38 |
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HOPE THAT HE FINDS THE
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| 01:22:40 |
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SENSE OF HUMOR THAT LINCOLN WILL HAVE IN
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| 01:22:43 |
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THE GALESBERG DEBATES, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS TO BE MY FAVORITE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE HARD-HITTING ATMOSPHERE THAT LINCOLN BROUGHT UP TO DOUGLAS IN THAT...
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| 01:23:43 |
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DO LINCOLN IN GALESBERG? >> I WENT DOWN TO
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| 01:23:46 |
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THE AUDITION ON MAY 21 AND I WENT DOWN WITH THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THAT DEBATE MEMORIZED, AND THAT WAS A DONE DEAL. >> DO YOU DO-- WHAT DO YOU DO...
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| 01:24:02 |
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>> WORKING ON A LINCOLN SHOW UP HERE, TOO, SO-- AND INCORPORATED
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| 01:24:06 |
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MARY TODD LINCOLN IN OUR SHOW, TOO, SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT THE ACTOR TALK ABOUT HIS SHOW, TOO. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU DONE THIS? >>
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| 01:24:16 |
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THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR IN DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS--
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| 01:24:19 |
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WE HAVE TWO SCRIPTS OUT, ONE
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| 01:24:21 |
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IS CALLED WITH LINK OWN AND THE OTHER IS
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| 01:24:24 |
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CALLED VISITING LINCOLN AND VISITING LINCOLN IS THE ONE THAT INVOLVES THE CROOKS, THE PINGERTON GUARD ASSIGNED TO LINCOLN ON THE LAST DAY OF HIS LIFE...
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| 01:24:35 |
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A VERY HUMOROUS ASPECT TO IT,
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| 01:24:37 |
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TOO. THAT'S A LITTLE THING I MISSED JUST A BIT IN THE DEBATES TODAY. IT'S NOT TO TAKE ANY CREDIT AWAY BECAUSE I KNOW JUST HOW HARD IT IS TO GET UP AND...
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| 01:25:28 |
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FOLKS WERE AT THE DEBATES? >> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT FREDERICK DOUGLASS MAY HAVE BEEN AT ONE OF THEM BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. THE BLACK POPULATION IN...
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| 01:25:51 |
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IN ILLINOIS SO IT WOULD MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE COMPARATIVELY LESS INTEREST ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. >> WE'RE FINDING OUT THE SAME WITH-C-SPAN VIEWERS.
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| 01:26:01 |
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IF YOU DON'T VOTE, YOU
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| 01:26:03 |
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DON'T WATCH. PHILADELPHIA, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE
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| 01:26:08 |
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A QUESTION FIRST AND THEN POSSIBLY MAKE
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| 01:26:11 |
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A COMMENT. MY QUESTION WOULD BE WAS UNCLE TOM'S CABIN WRITTEN ALONG THE SWELL OF THESE DEBATES OR PRIOR TO
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| 01:26:19 |
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IT? AND YOU COULD POSSIBLY ANSWER THAT AFTER I JUST MAKE A COMMENT. IT SEEMS THAT NOT ENOUGH
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| 01:26:26 |
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STRESS CAN BE PUT ON WEIGHING LINCOLN IN THE TIME HE LIVED IN. I JUST WANT TO REAFFIRM THIS, LIKE A COLUMBUS OR LIKE THE VIKINGS THAT RAIDED IRELAND....
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| 01:27:55 |
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IT GAVE A VERY STEREOTYPICAL VIEW OF SLAVERY AND IN SOME CASES GAVE SOME OF THE ABOLITIONISTS MORE AMMUNITION BUT THEN
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| 01:28:03 |
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THERE WERE PROBLEMS
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| 01:28:04 |
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WITH THAT, TOO, BECAUSE THERE WERE STEREOTYPES IN
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| 01:28:07 |
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THAT BOOK THAT KIND OF REINFORCED A NEGATIVE
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| 01:28:10 |
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UNREAL VIEW. >> I THINK ALSO INVOLVED IN
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| 01:28:13 |
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THE QUESTION APART FROM-- APART FROM "UNCLE TOM'S CABIN" WAS THE MORE BASIC QUESTION OF HOW WE SHOULD JUDGE HISTORICAL FIGURES, JUDGE THEM ON THE BASIS...
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| 01:28:33 |
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MARTY DOMINGOS, HAS A COUPLE OTHER DEBATES SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THE OTHER ONE IS MACK McGIRS FREPORT STOP SEVEN DAYS FROM NOW. WE'LL TAKE THIS...
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| 01:28:50 |
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HOW BLACK PEOPLE WERE TREATED. IT'S NOT REALLY-- I DON'T THINK HE REALLY UNDERSTOOD, YOU KNOW, HOW REALLY IT WAS, BUT PEOPLE MAKING THEM AS A CITIZEN,...
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| 01:29:07 |
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THEY NEVER ASKED TO COME OVER HERE, YOU KNOW. THEY ARE JUST ASKING TO BE BRIEFED FROM EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> OKAY, THANKS....
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| 01:29:37 |
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THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT
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| 01:29:40 |
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THAT, WELL, YOU'RE THREE-FIFTHS OF
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| 01:29:42 |
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A PERSON, YOU'VE ONLY GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GO. NO, YOU WERE NOT A NON-PERSON. THE THREE-FIFTHS REFERRED TO THE NUMBER OF SLAVES THAT WOULD BE COUNTED...
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| 01:30:25 |
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TSH? >> NOT ON DEBATES, A GENERAL HISTORY BOOK. >> ANYTHING ON ABRAHAM LINCOLN? >> NO, NOT ON ABRAHAM LINCOLN. >> THAT'S THE NUMBER THERE ON THE SCREEN....
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| 01:30:46 |
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BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME
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| 01:30:49 |
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VISIT ONE OF THE
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| 01:30:50 |
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DEBATE SITES, WE HAVE SIX MORE
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| 01:30:52 |
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TO GO, PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY. WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU
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| 01:30:55 |
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AND WE'LL GO TO THE PARK AND SUSAN SWAIN. >> BRIAN, I AM TALKING ABOUT DONNA DANIELS WHO IS PLAYING, PORTRAYING TODAY MARY TODD LINCOLN. DONNA, WOULD...
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| 01:31:19 |
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ARE NOT AS FREQUENTLY MADE PUBLIC IN PEOPLE-- PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE GOOD THINGS SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN CAPABLE OF. THEY ONLY WANT TO HEAR...
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| 01:31:29 |
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IN THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE INTO HER PERSONALITY, I THINK THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED, MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE FRIENDS YOU WANT TO TALK TO SOMETIMES AND SAY,...
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| 01:32:04 |
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HE WAS RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE BEFORE HE EVEN MET HER. WHAT HE
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| 01:32:08 |
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DID NEED I THINK WAS SOMEONE TO HELP POLISH THE EDGES BECAUSE SHE KNEW HOW TO GIVE A GOOD DINNER PARTY. SHE HAD PROPER ETIQUETTE, KNEW HOW TO GET...
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| 01:32:51 |
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IN FACT, SHE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WORN
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| 01:32:53 |
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SOMETHING A BIT MORE FANCIER THAN THIS
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| 01:32:55 |
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BUT THIS AGAIN IS A CONCESSION TO THE HEAT AND HUMIDITY TODAY, A SIMPLE WHITE BLOUSE WITH A JACKET ON. I GOT A SKIRT THAT'S A COUPLE OF
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| 01:33:03 |
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LAYERS, BUT IT'S ALL-- THERE ARE SEVERAL LAYERS TO THE OUTFIT BUT IT'S ALL COTTON SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AS WARM AS IT LOOKS. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ALL...
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| 01:33:46 |
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HAD BEEN CAST IN A COUPLE OF PLAYS AS LINCOLNICS AND EVENTUALLY SOMEONE I THINK INVITED HIM TO A CENTENNIAL PAGEANT AND SAID, BY THE WAY, WHY DON'T...
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| 01:33:57 |
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MARY TODD SO WE RENTED A COSTUME AND WENT AND IN THE
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| 01:34:01 |
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COURSE OF TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE INTELLIGENTLY AS MARY LINCOLN, WE BECAME-- BECAME VERY INTERESTED IN A MORE THREE...
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| 01:34:42 |
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ARE VERY WELL DONE, VERY SCHOLARLY WORKS. THE ONE-- A COUPLE THAT COME QUICKLY TO MY MIND, "TODD UMINSKY, A
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| 01:34:49 |
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BIOGRAPHY" BY JEAN BAKER WHICH IS VERY GOOD AND I ALSO LIKE "THE INSTANT FILE" BY MIKE NEELY AND GERALD McMURTRY, A VERY OBJECTIVE BIOGRAPHY, WHICH IS...
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| 01:35:28 |
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LAWYER IN GREENSBORO,
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| 01:35:29 |
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NORTH CAROLINA, AND MANY OTHERS WILL JOIN THIS
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| 01:35:32 |
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WHOLE DEBATE SERIES IN GALESBERG AND QUINCY, SO IF YOU WANT TO MEET SOME DESCENDANTS OF STEPHEN A. DOUGLAS, COME TO GALESBERG. LET'S GO TO DURHAM,...
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| 01:36:06 |
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ONE OF THE GREAT PRESIDENTS, BECAUSE HE
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| 01:36:09 |
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WAS PRESIDENT DURING THE CIVIL WAR. I THINK THE PROFESSOR SHOULD HAVE AN IDEALISTIC VIEWPOINT OF WHO OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN AND THEREFORE HE DENIES THE CRITICAL...
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| 01:37:45 |
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THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK IS AGAIN FOLLOW THE GOLDEN RULE. WOULD YOU WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE AFRICAN-AMERICANS WOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED AT THAT POINT...
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| 01:38:59 |
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JACKSON AND, OF COURSE, ANOTHER SLAVEHOLDER, AND THAT'S FOUR, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, FRANKLIN
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| 01:39:06 |
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D. ROOSEVELT PERHAPS. >> ONE QUICK REASON WHY HERBERT HOOVER IS ON THAT LIST? >> OH, BECAUSE HE ONCE SAID THAT ALL OF ASIA WAS NOT WORTH THE LIFE OF...
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| 01:39:30 |
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WOULD NOT HAVE GOT INVOLVED IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR. >> AS
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| 01:39:36 |
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IS SAID EARLIER WE'RE GOING TO FREPORT IN SEVEN DAYS FOR THE SECOND DEBATE AND FREPORT IS A COMMUNITY A COUPLE OF HOURS NORTH OF THIS. IT'S TWO HOURS...
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| 01:39:57 |
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UNION DAIRY IN FREPORT DONE BY LILY TOPEAU WHO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NEXT WEEK AND THIS STATUE IS AVAILABLE IN MINIATURE. THAT'S A HUGE STATUE, IT'S BIGGER...
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| 01:41:00 |
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BLACKS HERE IN OTTAWA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE POPULATION IS FAIRLY SMALL, AND-- >> I THINK THE POPULATION IS LIKE .7%. >>...
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| 01:41:16 |
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EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ILLINOIS AND THIS IS
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| 01:41:19 |
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OTTAWA, I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT EVEN BE MORE PEOPLE PERIOD, AND I THINK TO SOME EXTENT IT MIGHT SHOW THAT ALTHOUGH ONE THOUGHT THERE WOULD HAVE
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| 01:41:29 |
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BEEN MORE INTEREST. I KIND
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| 01:41:31 |
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OF EXPECTED MORE PEOPLE TO BE
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| 01:41:33 |
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HERE, THAT HISTORY STILL ISN'T
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| 01:41:35 |
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I THINK AS UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED AS I'D LIKE TO SEE IT AND PROBABLY PROFESSOR CURRENT ALSO. >> WELL, I DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I SUSPECT THAT MANY BLACKS,...
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| 01:42:03 |
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ON RECONSTRUCTION, I GOT VERY FEW BLACKS, BUT, OF COURSE, IN-- IN THE COURSES THAT I DID NOT TEACH SUCH AS BLACK AMERICAN HISTORY, AFRO AMERICAN HISTORY,...
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| 01:42:52 |
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THEY GET FOR BEING THERE ALL
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NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.