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THE WORLD. THE RISE OF FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM AND ALSO THE RISE OF TERRORISM IN THAT REGION OF THE WORLD. IT'S CALLED "GHOST WARS THE SECRET HISTORY OF...

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PAKISTANIS AND AFGHANNIES. A TESTIMONY OF

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RECOGNIZE THE TEMPTATION. I THINK THERE

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WE HAD DUBBED THIS THREAT, MADE THIS DECISION IN A DIFFERENT WAY

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EXCERPT THAT APPEARED IN THE SUNDAY PAPER ABOUT THE AS YOU CALLED IT SECRET HUNT THAT UNRAVELED AT THE LAST MINUTE WHEN IT LOOKED AS THOUGH THE U.S....

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DAY WHERE YOU WERE MAKING A LOT -- THEY WERE MAKING A LOT OF DECISIONS ABOUT BIN LADEN AND IT

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IMPEACHMENT STUFF STARTS WITH CLINTON. YOU

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YOU RECALL THAT ABOUT TEN DAYS LATER, PRESIDENT CLINTON WENT ON NATIONAL TELEVISION TO ADMIT FOR THE FIRST TIME UNDER THE PRESSURE OF SOME GRAND JURY...

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SECURITY BUREAUCRACY WHOSE JOB IT WAS TO GET UP EVERY MORNING AND WORK ON THIS PROBLEM. SO THERE WAS REALLY NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE ABOUT THE ISSUES...

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KNEW THE POTENTIAL OF BIN LADEN AND THE AL QAEDA THREAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN EXPERIENCEING TERRORIST ACTION ON A SMALLER SCALE COMPARED TO 9/11...

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COELECTED AND IT BE SO WRONG. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. >> Host: THANKS. >> Guest: WELL, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT FROM...

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IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BEFORE THE AMERICAN INVASION, AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS BLUFFING HIS NEIGHBORS AND HIS OWN SCIENTISTS WERE PROBABLY BLUFFING HIM...

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U.N. AS I SAID IN MY GEORGETOWN SPEECH, WE WORKED HARD AFTER 1998 TO RESUS STATE SOURCES AND THE RECORD WAS MIXED AND WE MADE JUDGMENT ON A NARROW...

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BUSINESS. THE EVIDENCE IS HARD TO WORK WITH, AND YET POLICYMAKERS DEMAND CERTAINTY OR CERTAINLY PREFER IT WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE. I THINK THE BIGGEST...

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PART OF THE PROBLEM. BETWEEN 1998 AND 2001 TENDED TO APPROACH BIN LADEN IN ISOLATION, DIDN'T SEE HIM IN HIS CONTEXT, DIDN'T REGARD THE TALIBAN AS A...

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OF UNICAL AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ADDRESS THE GAS PIPELINE IN YOUR BOOK AND WHETHER YOU DELVE INTO THE QUESTION OF THE HEROIN AND POPPIES IN AFGHANISTAN?...

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HIS TEACHINGS

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AS THE FATHER OF THE PROGRAM. OTHER PEOPLE THINK HE WAS AN IMPORTANT BUT -- IMPORTANT PART OF A MUCH BROADER ARRAY. I TEND TO THE LATTER VIEW. HE CERTAINLY...

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FACT, ONCE WE

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THE

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CONFLICT, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH GOVERNMENT HAD FALLEN. WE DID NOT HAVE A FUNDED CENTRAL GOVERNMENT AND SINCE THAT PROBLEM EXISTS, THE OPENIUM...

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INTERESTED IN DIRTY BOMBS, TERRORIST DOCUMENTS CONTAIN ACCURATE

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THEN LIVING IN SUDAN, WALKED OUT AND HE HAD SOME MONEY PROBLEMS WITH THE GROUP AND ESSENTIALLY DEFECTED TO THE UNITED STATES. AND HE PROVIDED EXTENSIVE...

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THE FIRST BUSH, WAS DIRECTOR OF CIA WHEN -- WENT FROM DIRECTOR OF CIA

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WAY AGAIN THIS SPRING. MY SENSE JUST FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE AROUND TOWN IS THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT THINK THAT THEY'RE CLOSER TO GETTING HIM ...

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WE INVESTIGATE THAT. ESPECIALLY IN THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE POLITICAL SYSTEM? COMMUNISM IS NOT DEAD, AND THEY'RE DUG IN REAL DEEP. THANK...

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TO

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IN

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BEEN PRESENT IN THE PAST IN SOME RADICAL CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES WHICH IS THE QUESTION OF WHAT DOES A RELIGION MAKE OF A NON-BELIEVER. ONE OF THE ASPECTS...

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WAS THE PORE OPERATE -- PORTRAIT OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO AL QAEDA AS AN ORGANIZATION AND THREAT SINCE SEPTEMBER 11th. FROM MY OWN SENSE OF THINGS ENDORSE...

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DESTRUCTIVE EXPERTISE, ENSURE A SERIOUS THREAT WILL REMAIN FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WITH OR WITHOUT AL QAEDA IN THE PICTURE. >> Host: WE'RE TALKING...

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AND SEEN, WE WERE TOLD AS EARLY AS

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THAT AL QAEDA WANTED TO FLY A PLANE INTO THE TRADE CENTER. THERE WERE OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT UNCOVERED ITEMS THAT -- AND THEN THEY TOLD US AND, YOU...

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STEVE SIMON WHO HAVE WRIT AN BOOK ABOUT THIS, THEY EXPRESS THEIR GREATEST DISMAY AND RETROSPECT ABOUT THE FBI. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN...

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PARTICIPANT IN A GROUP CALLED THE ISLAMIC JIHAD IN EGYPT. HE WAS IMPRISONED, BY HIS ACCOUNT TORTURED, FORCED INTO EXILE AND ENDED UP IN AFGHANISTAN....

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SAME TIME THEY'RE RELATIVELY SOPHISTICATED MEN IN THE SENSE THEY CONSUME A LOT OF MEDIA AND THEIR UNDERSTANNING OF THE UNITED STATES I THINK IS MOSTLY...

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HAVEN'T FOUND THE WMD YET, THAT THEY WERE NOT THERE. I WATCHED THE DCI BROADCAST YESTERDAY, AND MR. TENET SAID THERE ARE 14,000 BOXES OF ADDITIONAL...

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ITS MULTIKRURLISMS,

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COMPLICATED ONE. THE

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AFTER ITS BIRTH UNTIL THE PERIOD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11th WHEN IT WAS SEEKING CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRETY OF

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THREATS. WHY WAS NO SECURITY ALERTED? THIS

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AND IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY

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US UNDER NATIONAL

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SOCIETY? HOW DO YOU HOLD IT ACCOUNTABLE? HOW DO YOU

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WAS THE MOST CHARACTER RIS MATIC, MOST EFFECTIVE GUERRILLA LEADER ON THE GROUND IN AFGHANISTAN. HE HAS A LONG HISTORY. THE PART THAT'S MOST RELEVANT...

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OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES

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THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE CAN REALLY BE RESPONSIBILITY FOR. -- RESPONSIBLE FOR. ONE IS MANAGING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CIA AND THE...

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WOULD CALL IT AND I JUST DON'T GET HOW AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN'T DRAW A CONCLUSION THAT I MEAN YOU SAW CONDOLEEZZA RICE WITH CHEVRON AND DICK CHENEY WITH...

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LIKE TO SAY, DURING THE BEGINNING OF THE BUSH ERA WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH CHINA WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE PLANE, THE SPY PLANE, WAS OUT AND THAT TOOK UP SOME ...

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THE TALIBAN'S TOTALITARIAN VISION AND ITS VIOLENCE AND ITS APPETITE FOR POWER WAS FAR MORE AGREE YUS THAN THE VIOLATIONS CARRIED OUT BY MASSOUD'S PARTNERS....

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I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY FORWARD WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, TO SORT OF PAINSTAKINGLY BACK IT UP FROM THERE. ONE REGION AT A TIME. AND IT'S OFTEN GOING...