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INCLUDED 38 HOURS OF VIDEO TAPED ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEW, CONDUCTED IN 1994 AND 1995 BY HIS FORMER LAW CLERK, YALE PROFESSOR HAROLD COE. HERE IS THE...
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CHAMBERS IN HIS PERSONAL OFFICE. MR. JUSTICE, HOW LONG HAVE YOU WORKED IN THIS OFFICE? >> I THINK I'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS. ...
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CAN REMEMBER WHEN THE CLERK HIMSELF SAT BEFORE THIS WINDOW AND HELD FORTH. >> AND YOU SIT BEFORE THIS WINDOW A LOT? >> YES. >> WHAT DO YOU USUALLY...
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WHAT --
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ARE THEY PICKETING YOU? >>
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OH, YES.
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ONCE IN A WHILE. I'M OFTEN THE TARGET OF GOOD PICKETING. >> WELL, MR. JUSTICE, THIS IS A BIG DAY
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BECAUSE YOUR 24TH
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TERM ENDED ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND SHORTLY YOU WILL BE MOVING FROM THIS BUILDING. WE THOUGHT THAT IN THE FIRST TAPING SESSION,
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WE THOUGHT WE WOULD
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GO THROUGH THE OFFICE AND LOOK IN PARTICULAR AT SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE WALL AND HAVE YOU TALK ABOUT THEM AND JUST REMEMBER WHERE YOU GOT
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THEM AND WHAT THEY MEAN TO YOU AND WHAT YOU LIKE TO REMEMBER ABOUT THEM. SO, WHY DON'T WE START WITH THIS ONE OVER HERE. >> WITH THE BASEBALL BAT? >>...
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AND THE ISSUE WAS WHETHER BASEBALL WAS
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SUBJECT TO THE ANTI-TRUST LAWS. THE
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COURT TWICE HAD HELD, PARTICULARLY IN AN OPINION BY JUSTICE HOLMES THAT BASEBALL WAS A GAME AND NOT A BUSINESS AND, HENCE, WAS NOT SUBJECT TO THE ANTI-TRUST...
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THAT SHOULDER PATCH.
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JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS ONE PICKS UP
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WHEN HE GIVES A PEACH HERE AND THERE AND THE OTHER PLACE. I
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WAS INTERESTED IN -- >> WERE YOU POPULAR WITH THEM THIS >> WAS I WHAT? >> POPULAR WITH THE NASHVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT? >> THE POLICE WERE FINE. I...
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A COUPLE OF SENTIMENT
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THINGS. THERE IS A CANE THAT WAS GIVEN BY HIS
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CHILDREN TO MY GREAT GRANDFATHER, I THINK, ON HIS 70TH BIRTHDAY AND IT JUST CAME INTO MY POSESSION AND I THOUGHT I'D PRESERVE IT THAT
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WAY. THE SWORD IS MY FATHER'S TRUST
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SWORD. HE WAS IN THE NATIONAL GUARD FOR THE MINNESOTA NATIONAL GUARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND I JUST PUT THEM TOGETHER. THIS IS MY FATHER HERE. IT'S...
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AT THE
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TIME. YEAH. >> YOU HAVE ANOTHER SWORD UP THERE. >> WELL, THAT IS A MACHETE. THAT COMES FROM THE BAHAMAS. WE SPENT A COUPLE OF CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS...
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LEAVING. EVERYBODY HAS ASTHMA SCHETTTY. THEY USE IT
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TO CUT SUGAR CORN, CLEAN THEIR FINGERNAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THEY GAVE THAT TO ME AS WE WERE LEAVING. I HAD ADD TERRIBLE TIME GETTING ON THE AIRPLANE,...
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GREW UP. I WASN'T BORN THERE, BUT I CERTAINLY GREW UP IN ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA AND OTHERS HERE HAVE TO DO WITH, OH, LITTLE GERMAN VILLAGE OF
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MY MATERNAL GRANDFATHER CAME FROM AND THE LIKE. >> HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU MOVED TO ST. PAUL? >> ABOUT THREE DAYS. MY FATHER WAS ON THE ROAD AND ...
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BORN IN NASHVILLE,
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ILLINOIS. A LONG TIME AGO. >> AND NOW WE HAVE TWO OLDER PICTURES HERE. >> WELL, THIS IS MY PATERNAL GRANDFATHER. HIS FATHER. AND THAT -- HE WAS A VETERAN...
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DAY. AND HE AND SOME OTHER OLD SOLDIERS WERE
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REVIEWING THE PARADE AS THEY WENT BY. THAT IS A NEWSPAPER PICTURE -- PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE ST. PAUL DISPATCH, I THINK IT WAS, RATHER THAN THE PIONEER...
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SPACE OF TWO MONTHS AND HE
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COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE AND HE SOLD THE FARM AND WENT INTO THE CITIES AND DID CARPENTRY WORK LARGELY. HE WAS A GREAT GUY. I WELL REMEMBER HIM. YEAH....
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NAMED CORENIO AND HE AND
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SHE WERE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON AN AUSTRALIAN TOUR FROM BERLIN AND HE CONTRACTED PNEUMONIA AND DIED WITHIN THREE DAYS IN THOSE DAYS. AND MY MOTHER NEVER...
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HAVE THE SCALES OF JUSTICE? >>
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MRS. BLACKMON BOUGH THAT AT A MAYO CLINIC AUCTION ONE TIME. IT IS AN OLD PHARMACIST SCALE. THEY USE BEFORE DRUGS OR PHARMACEUTICALS WERE PUT UP IN...
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PELLETS OR PACKAGES. SO, THEY DID IT ON THIS KIND OF
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THING. AND SHE THOUGH IT WAS REPRESENTATIVE OR THE SCALES OF JUSTICE AND THERE IT IS. UP ABOVE ARE THE TWO MEDAL I DON'T UNDERSTAND OR THE MAYO BROTHERS,...
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IT WAS IN LAW SCHOOL. I'VE FORGOTTEN EXACTLY. I THINK IT WAS
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1930, PROBABLY, UP IN BOSTON AND DIDN'T AM TO ANYTHING. JUSTS A MINOR TOURNAMENT. BUT I LIKED SQUASH. IT WAS GOOD TO ME. >> WE CAN'T LEAVE THIS AREA...
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ARE MISCELLANEOUS
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VOLUMES THAT I USEED. OF COURSE, WHAT STANDS OUT IS A BASEBALL ENCYCLOPEDIA. AND THESE ARE PHOTOGRAPH AND BIOGRAPHICAL MATERIAL VOLUMES
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OF ALL FEDERAL JUDGES. THAT IS DORLAND'S
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MEDICAL DICTIONARY, AN OLD EDITION, BUT IT IS A SPECIALLY-USED TOOL I THINK IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. DOWN THERE IN KIND OF A MESSY PILE OF THIS SENTENCING...
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CAP THAT SUPPOSEDLY WE WEAR ON COLD DAYS. I'LL REACH DOWN AND GET
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IT. I'VE NEVER REALLY WORN IT. IT SUPPOSEDLY KEEPS YOUR BALD HEAD COVERED. >> IT LOOKS GREAT. IT REMINDS ME OF THE TIME YOU WORE THE MAYO CAP TO THE...
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WHITE HOUSE. I WAS IN HARVARD GLEE CLUB
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FOR SIX YEARS, NOT MY FRESHMAN YEAR, BUT ALL THE YEARS AFTER THAT. AND THAT WAS TAKEN AT
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BOSTON SYMPHONY HALL BACK IN THOSE DAYS ANDS THAT CERTIFICATE. BUT THIS
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ONE WAS THE SPRING TRIP IN 1929. WE HAD BEEN UP IN SYRACUSE THE NIGHT BEFORE IN A SNOWSTORM AND SANG. YOU CAN SEE ALL HEAVY SUITS EVERYBODY IS WEARING...
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WELL. NEARLY ALL OF THEM ARE GONE NOW. BUT ONE OF THEM OVER HERE WAS MY ROOMMATE DURING MY LAW
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SCHOOL DAYS, BECAME HEAD OF THE MATH DEPARTMENT OF MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY IN LANSING. AND A COUPLE
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OF THEM DID PRETTY GOOD WORK IN MUSIC AND THE LIKE. YEAH. >> WHAT -- WHAT VOICE DID YOU SING? >> BARITONE. AND I GOT IN WITH THE LOWEST POSSIBLE QUARTET...
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LARGELY. ACTUALLY, SOME OF THE --
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HE DAYS IN THE DORSEY OFFICE. THIS HAPPENED TO BE A TIME WHEN ONE OF PARTNERS LEFT THE FIRM AS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR GREYHOUND. GREYHOUND WAS AN EARLY...
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WELL OVER 300,
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400 OR SO. THIS IS
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LARRY HOWIC, WHO LURED ME TO GO TO MAYO'S. HE WAS THE
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ADMINISTRATOR OF ONE OF THE MAYO ORGANIZATIONS, ONE OF THE MOST ABLED PEOPLE I'VE EVER KNOWN. AND CHUCK MAYO, ONE OF THE -- THAT'S DR. BELL FOUR, WHO...
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MAYO WAS THE SON OF CHARMS
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H. MAYO, WHICH IS THE YOUNGER OF
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THE TWO MAYO BROTHERS AND WAS A SURGEON IN THE SOUTH AND
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A GOOD FRIEND AND ONE THING THAT HE DID, HE'D STOP BY AT THE THE END OF THE DAY ONCE IN A WHILE IN OUR HOME AND WHEN OUR THREE DAUGHTERS WERE LITTLE AND...
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THE TAX MATTER, OUR TAX PARTNER WAS ILL AT THE
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TIME SO HE LANDED AT MY DESK AND WE TOOK IT FROM THERE AND EVENTUALLY BECAME -- THEY BECAME A VERY VALUED CLIENT. AND THROUGH THAT, I EVENTUALLY WENT...
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BATTERIES RECHARGED AND THAT'S RATHER TYPICAL OF THAT LAKE.
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IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. >> HAVE YOU BEEN GOING THERE SINCE YOU WERE AT THE DORSEY FIRM? >> OH, NO. MAYBE THE LAST EIGHT OR NINE YEARS OR SO. WE WERE...
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COLORADO WHERE I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A SEMINAR OUT THERE FOR A
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NUMBER OF YEARS AND THE THREE OF US THERE THAT THE PROFESSOR NORVILLE MORRIS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO LAW SCHOOL , HE AND I CONDUCT THE SEMINAR. AND
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THE THIRD PERSON IS
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THE LATE ROBERT MCKAY OF N.Y.U. LAW SCHOOL WHO WAS RATHER THE DIRECTOR OF THAT PARTICULAR SEMINAR SUBJECT. AND WE'RE JUST WALKING UP FROM WHAT'S CALLED...
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THAT. YOU KNOW? >> AND HERE -- THE DORSEY FIRM? >>
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THOSE ARE THE PARTNERS IN THE DORSEY FIRM TAKEN SHORTLY AFTER I LEFT. VERY BRIEFLY. A LOT OF THEM ARE GONE NOW. IT WASN'T A VERY LARGE FIRM AT THE TIME....
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A FEDERAL JUDGE ON NOVEMBER
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4, 1959. THAT'S IN THE -- A BUILDING NOW CALLED THE LANDMARK CENTER IN ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA. AND I SUCCEEDED HIM AND HE SWORE ME IN AND THAT'S OUR FAMILY...
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YEAR. HE WAS A GREAT FRIEND AND GREAT MENTOR AND I LEARNED A LOT FROM
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HIM. GENERALLY. THESE OTHER THINGS ARE JUST LITTLE TOKENS OF SOME AWARDS AND SOME OTHER STUFF. BUT COMES ALONG -- THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE PLACE WHERE...
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COMES CLOSE TO IT CERTAINLY. HE IS MY FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
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I THINK HE HAD A TERRIBLE TIME IN WHICH TO TRY TO BE PRESIDENT. AND -- YES. I WOULD SAY HE COMES CLOSE TO BEING A
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HERO. OVER THERE ARE A CUP OF
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INTERESTING PHOTOGRAPHS. ONE IS TAKEN BY L.B.J.'S OFFICIAL PHOTOGRAPHER, YAMAMOTO AND I LIKE IT. HE FOLLOWED ME AROUND THE BUILDING. I USED TO WALK...
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DENNIS ARCHER AT THE GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY LAW CENTER. HE
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DISCUSSED THE NEEDS OF THE POOR. >> DEAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND FATHER, THANK YOU. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY'S LAW CENTER....
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BECOME A LAWYER FOR SEVERAL REASONS. PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT LAWYERS HAVE A POWERFUL AND LONG-STANDING
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TRADITION OF SERVICE TO SOCIETY. AND TO OUR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CULTURE OF BEING A LAWYER. IT IS PART OF OUR VALUES...
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THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWYERS, INDIVIDUAL LAWYERS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED IN PRO BONO WORK AND I WAS WONDERING, I UNDERSTAND THAT ...
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FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK FOR PLACES THAT CAN'T PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT SORT OF INSURANCE IN ORDER TO DO PRO BONO WORK, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST...
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AND CAUSED PROPERTY DAMAGE OR A PERSON GOT HURT OR, WORSE, THAT THERE WOULD BE INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON IS COVERED. THE SAME THING IS...
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EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AS A PROFESSION, THAT IS TO SAY THE AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION, WE PROMOTE, FOR EXAMPLE, INTEREST ON LAWYER'S TRUST ACCOUNTS,...
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MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE LOSS THAT -- OR CONGRESS' FAILURE TO INCREASE LEGAL SERVICES APPROPRIATE -- APPROPRIATIONS. WE'RE THANKFUL LAST YEAR THANKS...
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GOOD
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