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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
US. WE HAVE LEARNED RECENTLY HOW PROFESSIONALS IN A FEW COMPANIES TOOK ON -- TOOK
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THE CHAPLAIN, -
UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OF INVESTORS. THEY LOST TRACK OF THEIR ACCOUNTABILITY TO TRUTH AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO INTEGRITY. AND AS A RESULT, INVESTORS LOST BILLIONS...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL READ A COMMUNICATION TO THE SENATE. THE CLERK: WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 9, 2002. TO THE SENATE: UNDER THE PROVISIONS...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
PRO TEMPORE. MR. REID: MR.
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THE CLERK, -
PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. REID: THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF MORNING BUSINESS UNTIL 10:15 TODAY. THE TIME IS EVENLY...
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MR. REID, -
BY THE REPUBLICAN
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
LEADER THAT THIS AFTERNOON, THEY, THE REPUBLICANS, WILL MOVE TO THE NUCLEAR WASTE VETO MATTER THAT IS -- HAS BEEN HANGING AROUND FOR AWHILE. AND IF...
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Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
DESIGNEE. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEBRASKA. MR. HAGEL: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I RISE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
PROBLEM THAT CAN NO LONGER BE IGNORED. LAST WEEK I MET WITH FARMERS AND LIVESTOCK
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Hagel, Chuck - U.S. Senator, [R] Nebraska
PRODUCERS IN NEBRASKA AND WITNESSED FIRST FIRSTHAND THE DEVASTATION CAUSED BY THIS DROUGHT. FOR MANY AGRICULTURE PRODUCERS IN NEBRASKA AND THROUGHOUT...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. REID: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE CALL OF THE QUORUM BE TERMINATED. THE...
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MR. REID, -
THE ROLL.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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MR. REID, -
QUORUM CALL:
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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MR. REID, -
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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MR. REID, -
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MRS. BOXER: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA. MRS. BOXER: I WOULD ASK THAT THE QUORUM CALL DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING...
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MRS. BOXER, -
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE -- THE
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MRS. BOXER, -
MAJORITY LEADER OR HIS DESIGNEE HAS CONTROL OF
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE TIME FOR THE REMAINING 20
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MRS. BOXER, -
MINUTES. MRS. BOXER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I COME TO THE FLOOR TODAY TO
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
DISCUSS A MATTER THAT IS
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MRS. BOXER, -
VERY RELATED TO THE WHOLE ISSUE OF CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY, AND
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T CONNECT THE ISSUE OF THE ENVIRONMENT WITH THE ISSUE OF CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY BUT I'M GOING
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Boxer, Barbara - U.S. Senator, [D] California
TO DO THAT THIS MORNING WITH THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS AS WE TOUCH ON SOME OF THE POLICIES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION WHICH ARE REALLY, IN MY VIEW, PUTTING...
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Durbin, Richard "Dick" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
LITERALLY DRAG THE COAL OUT FROM JUST BELOW THE SURFACE AND LEAVE BEHIND THIS TERRIBLE WASTELAND THAT LOOKED LIKE THE CRATERS ON THE MOON AND THEN OVER...
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Boxer, Barbara - U.S. Senator, [D] California
THERE FRANKLY WERE PROBLEMS WITH THE SUPERFUND PROGRAM FOR A WHILE. BUT THEY REALLY UNDER CAROL BROWNER SHAPED UP AND BEGAN TO GET THROUGH ALL THE...
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Durbin, Richard "Dick" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
AND DESTROYS THE PENSION, LIKE THE ENRON OFFICERS CASHING IN ON STOCK LIKE THE PENSIONERS WERE LOSING EVERYTHING THEY HAD IN THEIR 401(K)'S. ISN'T THIS...
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Boxer, Barbara - U.S. Senator, [D] California
EITHER. AND DELWAITS EA IMPORTANT SOMETIMES THAT THIS-- --AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT SOMETIMES THAT THIS NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, THE HOUSE, THE SENATE,...
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Durbin, Richard "Dick" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
THE PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO NEW YORK TO TALK ABOUT CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY. HE WANTS TO THROW THE BAD ACTORS IN JAIL. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE....
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Durbin, Richard "Dick" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
CLERK: CALENDAR NO. 442, S. 2673, A BILL TO IMPROVE QUALITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN FINANCIAL REPORTING AND INDEPENDENT AUDITS AND ACCOUNTING SERVICES FOR...
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Durbin, Richard "Dick" J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Illinois
THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, MR. DASCHLE, FOR MR. LEAHY, PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 4174. MR. DASCHLE: MADAM PRESIDENT, ON BEHALF OF...
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MR. DASCHLE, -
WHICH IS IDENTICAL
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
TO THE
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MR. DASCHLE, -
CORPORATE AND CRIMINAL FRAUD ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, S.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
2010, THAT WAS PASSED
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THE CLERK, -
UNANIMOUSLY BY THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SOME TIME AGO. I VIEW THE LEAHY AMENDMENT AS A
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Daschle, Thomas "Tom" A. - U.S. Senator, [D] South Dakota
NECESSARY COMPLEMENT TO THE SARBANES BILL. IN FACT, I THINK OF THEM AS TWO PARTS OF A VITAL WHOLE. ONE ELEMENT GUARANTEES THE TRUTH AND HONESTY OF CORPORATE...
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MR. MCCONNELL, -
THE VARIOUS
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
COMMITTEES WITH POSSIBLE JURISDICTION IN THIS AREA TO GET TOGETHER
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO. AND I RECALL THAT MEETING VERY, VERY WELL. I RECALL THE MAJORITY LEADER -- THIS IS BACK IN THE TIME OF ENRON, EVEN BEFORE...
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE FOR HIS EXTRAORDINARY LEADERSHIP AND THE EFFORT THAT HE HAS MADE TO BRING THIS LEGISLATION TO THE FLOOR. THIS IS THE LEAHY AMENDMENT,...
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Daschle, Thomas "Tom" A. - U.S. Senator, [D] South Dakota
BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO YIELD THE FLOOR SO THAT HE AND OTHERS CAN...
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
OF DOLLARS, BUT WOULD GO TO JAIL FOR IT? MR. DASCHLE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT I BELIEVE THIS PACKAGE OUGHT...
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Daschle, Thomas "Tom" A. - U.S. Senator, [D] South Dakota
FRAMEWORK. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER AND NOT HAVE A COMPLETE PEAFMCT I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE WORK OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE...
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MR. LEAHY, -
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MR. GRAMM, -
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR. LEAHY: PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT. MR. LEAHY: MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT IS THE RULE ON RECOGNITION? IS...
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MR. LEAHY, -
AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS PENDING
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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MR. LEAHY, -
BEFORE THE CHAIR, IS THAT CORRECT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MANAGERS OF THE LEGISLATION HAVE PRIORITY. MR. LEAHY: AND, MADAM PRESIDENT -- THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE
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MR. LEAHY, -
SENATOR FROM TEXAS IS THE MANAGER OF THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT. MR. LEAHY: WOULD THE MANAGERS OF THE AMENDMENT, WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR,...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
LEGISLATION ARE THE SENATORS FROM MARYLAND AND THE SENATORS FROM TEXAS. MR.
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MR. LEAHY, -
LEAHY: AND THE
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
SENATOR FROM -- THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER THEN HAS RECOGNIZED, HOWEVER, THE SENATOR
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
FROM KENTUCKY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE -- WE NEW MEMBERS LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE RULES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
HAS RECOGNIZED THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS. MR. GRAMM: MADAM PRESIDENT?
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MR. LEAHY, -
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS, MR. GRAMM, FOR MR. MCCONNELL, PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT FURTHER READING OF THE AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. MR. LEAHY: I OBJECT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:
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| 01:00:52 |
MR. GRAMM, -
IS THERE OBJECTION? MR. LEAHY: I OBJECT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
OBJECTION IS HEARD. THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE TO READ. THE
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THE CLERK, -
CLERK: SECTION: CORPORATE AND LABOR ORGANIZATION RESPONSIBILITY FOR FINANCIAL REPORTS AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS. A, FINANCIAL
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MR. GRAMM, -
REPORTS. ONE, CERTIFICATION OF
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MR. LEAHY, -
REPORTS. A, CERTIFICATION OF
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
PERIODIC
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
REPORTS. EACH PERIODIC REPORT CONTAINING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FILED BY AN INSURER WITH THE COMMISSION PURSUANT TO SECTION
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THE CLERK, -
13-A OR 15-D OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, 15 U.S.C., OR 78 O.D. SHALL BE ACCOMPANIED BY A WRITTEN STATEMENT BY THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER...
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MR. LEAHY, -
OFFICER: THE SENATOR NEEDS
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
TO SUSPEND FOR A MINUTE. THE REGULAR ORDER IS THE READING OF THE AMENDMENT.
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
MR. LEAHY: I ASK TO DISPENSION WITH IT -- I ASK TO DISPENSE WITH IT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION TO CALLING OFF THE READING OF THE AMENDMENT?...
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| 01:02:56 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
WHAT THE LEAHY-MCCAIN AMENDMENT IS AND THE CORPORATE AND CRIMINAL FRAUD ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S ABOUT
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MR. LEAHY, -
TRANSPARENCY. NOW, I THINK EVERYBODY IS AN
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| 01:03:09 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
INVESTOR, CORPORATION MANAGERS OR ANYBODY ELSE WILL TELL YOU THAT'S THE BEDROCK OF OUR ECONOMY, OF OUR MARKETS.
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Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY TRANSPARENCY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST IN A COMPANY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COMPANY DOES. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT...
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| 01:14:27 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
DESK, BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S
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MR. LEAHY, -
ONE ALREADY PENDING. I WONDER IF I COULD ASK -- I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I HAVE UP TO EIGHT MINUTES TO DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT NOW WHICH I...
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| 01:14:40 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? MR. MCCONNELL: RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. I PROBABLY WILL NOT.
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Miller, Zell - U.S. Senator, [D] Georgia
I HAD JUST HOPED FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE SECOND-DEGREE AMENDMENT THAT IS PENDING AT THE DESK. I'M WONDERING IF THE SENATOR FROM...
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| 01:15:00 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
PENDING IN ADVANCE OF ONE THAT MIGHT HAVE
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McConnell, Mitch Jr. - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
BEEN PENDING HAD IT BEEN OFFERED. MR. MILLER: I THINK THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY IS CORRECT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET IN THE CUE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE...
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| 01:15:26 |
MR. MILLER, -
AMENDMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS ABOUT IF I MAY. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MARYLAND. MR. SARBANES: MADAM...
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| 01:15:35 |
MR. REID, -
FOR FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE SECOND-DEGREE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN OFFERED, THAT'S PENDING
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| 01:15:41 |
MR. MCCONNELL, -
AND THEN THAT BE FOLLOWED BY THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA TO SPEAK FOR EIGHT MINUTES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? THE
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| 01:15:50 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
SENATOR
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Sarbanes, Paul S. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
FROM ALASKA. MR. MURKOWSKI: I WONDER IF I MAY BE RECOGNIZED AFTER THE SEQUENCE THAT HAS JUST BEEN DISCUSSED FOR ABOUT ONE MINUTE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER:...
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| 01:16:07 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
REQUEST THAT THE SENATOR FROM MARYLAND -- OF MARYLAND?
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Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED AND THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY WILL PROCEED. MR. MCCONNELL: MADAM PRESIDENT, FIRST LET ME THANK MY FRIEND FROM
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| 01:16:21 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
GEORGIA. I BRIEFLY WOULD LIKE TO DESCRIBE WHAT THE SECOND-DEGREE AMENDMENT I'VE OFFERED DOES. I EXPECT TO VOTE FOR THE UNDERLYING BILL BUT I THINK...
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| 01:16:37 |
McConnell, Mitch Jr. - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
CORPORATIONS TO LABOR UNIONS. THE AMENDMENT THAT I'VE SENT TO THE DESK REQUIRES UNION FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TO BE AUDITED BY AN INDEPENDENT ACCOUNTANT...
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| 01:22:08 |
MR. MCCONNELL, -
LAST WEEK OR TEN
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| 01:22:09 |
Sarbanes, Paul S. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
DAYS THINKING THAT THE VERY WORTHWHILE REQUIREMENTS OF CORPORATIONS AND ACCOUNTING FIRMS UNDER THE BILL OF THE SENATOR FROM MARYLAND
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| 01:22:19 |
McConnell, Mitch Jr. - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
ALSO MAKES SENSE IF WE'RE LOOKING TO PROTECT INVESTORS, WE SHOULD ALSO PROTECT UNION MEMBERS FROM THE SIMILAR KINDS OF EXPLOITATION. MR. SARBANES:...
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| 01:22:49 |
Sarbanes, Paul S. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
THAT IF THE AMENDMENT WERE NOT NECESSARY, WE WOULDN'T BE OFFERING IT HERE TODAY. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS FURTHER AS WE...
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| 01:23:01 |
McConnell, Mitch Jr. - U.S. Senator, [R] Kentucky
SECRETARY. MR. MCCONNELL: I EXPECT I COULD FIND OUT FROM THE SECRETARY OF LABOR BUT I CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT, I WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND FROM MARYLAND....
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| 01:23:18 |
MR. SARBANES, -
MR. MILLER: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE PENDING AMENDMENT BE TEMPORARILY
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| 01:23:22 |
MR. MCCONNELL, -
SET ASIDE SO THAT I BE ALLOWED TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST? WITHOUT
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| 01:23:31 |
MR. SARBANES, -
OBJECTION, THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA.
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| 01:23:33 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE CLERK WILL REPORT. THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA, MR. MILLER, PROPOSES
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| 01:23:40 |
Miller, Zell - U.S. Senator, [D] Georgia
AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED 4176. AT THE END -- MR. MILLER: MADAM PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE READING OF THE
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| 01:23:48 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
AMENDMENT BE DISPENSED WITH. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION? WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. GRAMM: WILL THE SENATOR YIELD? PARDON MY CONFUSION. I WANTED...
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| 01:23:58 |
THE CLERK, -
AMENDMENT, THE LEAHY AND THE MCCONNELL AMENDMENT, AND HE'S OFFERING A FIRST-DEGREE AMENDMENT. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD
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| 01:24:06 |
MR. MILLER, -
WHEN I TALKED TO THE SENATOR AND WHAT I
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| 01:24:09 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
HAD AGREED TO. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT IS THE CHAIR'S UNDERSTANDING.
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| 01:24:13 |
Gramm, William "Phil" Philip - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
MR. SARBANES: WHAT WAS THE REQUEST? I THOUGHT THE UNANIMOUS REQUEST WAS TO SET ASIDE THE MCCONNELL AMENDMENT AND OFFER THE MILLER AMENDMENT TO THE LEAHY...
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| 01:24:31 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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| 01:24:36 |
Sarbanes, Paul S. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
MR. GRAMM: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS. MR. GRAMM: I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE SET ASIDE BOTH LEAHY AND MCCONNELL....
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| 01:25:25 |
MR. GRAMM, -
TIME
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| 01:25:26 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
AND TO BE
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| 01:25:27 |
Gramm, William "Phil" Philip - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
AN INDEPENDENT FIRST-DEGREE AMENDMENT TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT NOW AND CONSIDERED AT A LATER TIME. IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING? THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT?
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| 01:25:39 |
Gramm, William "Phil" Philip - U.S. Senator, [R] Texas
MR. LEAHY: RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT. WHAT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I FULLY UNDERSTAND. WHAT IS THE REQUEST? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THERE IS...
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| 01:26:05 |
MR. LEAHY, -
IS THE PARLIAMENTARY SITUATION OF MY AMENDMENT? MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ASK IT.
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| 01:26:10 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA
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| 01:26:13 |
MR. LEAHY, -
OBTAINED THE CONSENT TO SET ASIDE THE PENDING AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO OFFER A FIRST-DEGREE
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| 01:26:19 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
AMENDMENT AMENDMENT. MR. LEAHY: I UNDERSTAND.
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| 01:26:23 |
Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
MR. SARBANES: WOULD THE CALL FOR THE REGULAR ORDER AT THE COMPLETION OF THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA'S STATEMENT,
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| 01:26:31 |
Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
OR UPON THE DISPOSITION OF HIS AMENDMENT, BRING BACK BEFORE THE BODY THE LEAHY AMENDMENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: YES, IT WOULD.
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| 01:26:42 |
MR. LEAHY, -
MR.
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| 01:26:43 |
Sarbanes, Paul S. - U.S. Senator, [D] Maryland
LEAHY: MADAM PRESIDENT, AND I HAVE SPOKEN -- THE SENATOR FROM GEORGIA SPOKE TO ME EARLIER ABOUT BEING RECOGNIZED. I DON'T WANT TO IN ANY WAY INTERFERE...
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| 01:26:59 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
FOR MY OWN SCHEDULE WHERE WE STOOD. I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED PRESIDING OFFICER. I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED
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| 01:27:03 |
Leahy, Patrick J. - U.S. Senator, [D] Vermont
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, AND, OF COURSE, I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM GEORGIA. MR. MILLER: I THANK THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT AND THE SENATOR...
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| 01:27:29 |
Miller, Zell - U.S. Senator, [D] Georgia
BACK. MAYBE SOME OF YOU REMEMBER IT. IT WAS CALLED, "SHE GOT THE GOLD MINE AND I GOT THE SHAFT." I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT SONG OF JERRY REID'S AS I'VE...
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| 01:35:40 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
S. J. RES. 34 ON APRIL 9.
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| 01:35:44 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND NATURAL RESOURCES HELD THREE DAYS OF HEARINGS AND ON JUNE 5 ORDERED THE MEASURE FAVORABLY REPORTED TO THE SENATE. AS...
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| 01:36:46 |
MR. REID, -
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| 01:36:47 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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| 01:36:49 |
MR. REID, -
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| 01:36:52 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR. REID: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. REID: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE CALL OF THE QUORUM BE TERMINATED....
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| 01:47:43 |
MR. REID, -
BREAK THAT
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| 01:47:44 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE MINORITY WAS GOING TO
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| 01:47:46 |
MR. REID, -
BRING THIS MATTER
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| 01:47:48 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
UP, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW
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| 01:47:50 |
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
EXACTLY WHEN. I SPOKE A COUPLE TIMES YESTERDAY WITH THE DISTINGUISHED REPUBLICAN LEADER. I IS SPEAK POKE TO MY COLLEAGUE, SENATOR ENSIGN, ON A NUMBER...
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| 01:49:37 |
MR. LOTT, -
TO ALL ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
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| 01:49:40 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND
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| 01:49:42 |
Lott, Trent - U.S. Senator, [R] Mississippi
RESPECT THE DESIRE OF THE SENATORS FROM NEVADA, SENATOR REID AND SENATOR ENSIGN, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR CASE AND TO MAXIMIZE THEIR EFFORT...
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| 01:52:33 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
GET A SECOND FOR THAT
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| 01:52:35 |
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
VOTE. I THINK WE COULD GO FORWARD ON THIS BASIS. MR. MURKOWSKI: MADAM PRESIDENT, LET ME ECHO THE COMMENTS OF THE TWO LEADERS RELATIVE TO WHAT WE HAVE...
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Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
ANTICIPATION THAT WE WOULD YIELD SOME TIME BACK. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE REALITY HERE THAT ANY MEMBER COULD HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP FOR ACTION....
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| 01:54:01 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
OPPOSE THIS BILL BEING ON THE FLOOR TODAY. BUT GIVEN THE REALITIES OF WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH, WE KNEW THAT
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Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
WE COULD NOT DELAY THIS BILL COMING TO THE FLOOR BEYOND THE JULY 27 DEADLINE THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE FELT THAT IT...
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
OFFICER: THE CHAIR HAS ASKED IF THERE IS FURTHER OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST. WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. REID: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER:
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MR. REID, -
THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. REID: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE SENATE STAND IN RECESS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 12:30 AND 2:15 TODAY FOR
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
THE WEEKLY PARTY CONFERENCES. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. MR. REID: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD NOTE THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM AND ASK...
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MR. REID, -
WILL CALL THE ROLL.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
QUORUM CALL:
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
ENEN MADAM PRESIDENT? -- MR. ENSIGN: MADAM PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. ENSIGN: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE...
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MR. ENSIGN, -
THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR.
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MR. ENSIGN, -
ENSIGN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANT TO START MY REMARKS
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| 01:57:46 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
TODAY BY SAYING A LOT OF THE INFORMATION
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| 01:57:49 |
MR. ENSIGN, -
THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING ON THIS PROCEDURAL VOTE -- I'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ISSUE THIS AFTERNOON,...
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| 01:57:59 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
A LOT OF THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN GATHERED THROUGH HOURS AND
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| 01:58:04 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
HOURS OF RESEARCH WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE, WITH THE FORMER PARLIAMENTARIAN OF THE SENATE, BOB DORXFE AS WELL AS SEVERAL-- --BOB DOVE,...
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| 02:09:15 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
SENATE RECEIVES A MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.] THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MESSAGE WILL BE RECEIVED. WHO YIELDS TIME? MR. MURKOWSKI: MADAM...
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| 02:09:54 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
LET ME FIRST POINT OUT THAT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. WE'VE
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| 02:10:03 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
BEEN APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS ON THIS ISSUE OF
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| 02:10:05 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
NUCLEAR
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| 02:10:06 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
WASTE, AND WE ARE MOVING IN AN ORDERLY PROCESS. BUT I FEEL COMPELLED TO RESPOND TO MY GOOD FRIEND FROM NEVADA ON THE POINT THAT HE MOST ELOQUENTLY COMMENTED...
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| 02:19:13 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR. SPECTER: I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM ALASKA. THE QUESTION OF CONCERN TO THIS SENATOR AND I THINK
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| 02:19:18 |
MR. SPECTER, -
MANY OTHERS IS THE ISSUE OF SAFETY ON TRANSPORTING THIS NUCLEAR MATERIAL. WHAT ARE THE
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MR. MURKOWSKI, -
PLANS IN A GENERAL SENSE, THAT IS
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Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
HOW WILL THE MATERIAL BE TRANSPORTED BY TRUCK, BY RAIL, AND IN A GENERAL WAY, WHAT WILL THE ROUTES BE? WILL THEY PASS THROUGH DENSELY POPULATED AREAS?...
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| 02:20:13 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
ARE AUTHORIZING TODAY IS THE PROCEDURE TO ALLOW THE SECRETARY TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSE SO THE LICENSING PROCESS WILL IN GREAT DETAIL EXAMINE ALL PARAMETERS...
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| 02:22:26 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
A REPOSITORY AT YUCCA MOUNTAIN? MR. MURKOWSKI: THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ESTIMATES ABOUT 175 ANNUAL SHIPMENTS TO YUCCA. MR. SPECTER: OVER HOW LONG A PERIOD...
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MR. MURKOWSKI, -
U.S. TODAY. THAT THERE IS, YOU
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MR. SPECTER, -
KNOW, NO NOTICE GIVEN BECAUSE
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| 02:22:59 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
THESE ARE MILITARY SHIPMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BREAK UP OF REACTORS MOST OF THEM ASSOCIATED WITH OUR NUCLEAR NAVY FLEET AS WE MOVE THOSE ACROSS....
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| 02:25:18 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
MR. SPECTER: I DIDN'T FINISH THE QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. MR. MURKOWSKI: YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. MR. SPECTER: I THANK THE SENATOR....
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MR. MURKOWSKI, -
VOTE HERE. YOU
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MR. SPECTER, -
SAY WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. WILL THERE
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| 02:25:42 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
SHALL SOMETHING PRESENTED TO
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Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
THE SENATE WHERE WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON OUR VIEWS AS TO THE ADEQUACY OF THE SAFETY PROCEDURES? MR. MURKOWSKI: IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING...
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| 02:26:15 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
OF PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED, THIS VOTE IS QUITE EXPLICIT. IT SIMPLY ALLOWS THE LICENSING PROCESS TO GO AHEAD. THE LICENSING PROCESS WILL DETERMINE...
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| 02:27:48 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
DELIBERATIVE BODY CAN APPLY. SO MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS, WHAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT WOULD THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA ENVISAGE WITH THE LICENSING PROCEDURES....
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| 02:28:24 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
TRANSPORTATION. NOW, THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO ADDRESS, IF YOU WILL, TRANSPORTATION PROCEDURES, SAFETY, ROUTING, THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CAVS ARE...
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| 02:30:06 |
Specter, Arlen - U.S. Senator, [R] Pennsylvania
HOMETOWN. WHAT WOULD -- RUSSELL KANSAS, MY HOMETOWN, OR WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN ALASKA THE HOME TOWN OF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA. MR. MURKOWSKI: I WILL...
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| 02:30:36 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
RESPONSE PROCEDURE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY INEVITABILITY OF AN ACCIDENT OF ANY KIND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY -- RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NUCLEAR...
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| 02:34:11 |
MR. SPECTER, -
ENSIGN: MR., WOULD THE SENATOR YIELD FOR A QUESTION? MR. MURKOWSKI: I'D BE HAPPY TO
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
YIELD. MR. ENSIGN: WHILE THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA IS STILL HERE, THIS WAS PART OF THE HEARING -- AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET CLEARED...
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| 02:34:28 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
SHIPMENTS PER YEAR THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND YOU HAVE MENTIONED THIS
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| 02:34:33 |
MR. ENSIGN, -
MORNING, THAT'S BEEN A COMMON NUMBER THAT'S
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| 02:34:36 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
BEEN TOSSED
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| 02:34:37 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
AROUND. THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT I HAVE IN MY HAND IS PAGE J-11. IT'S FROM THE FINAL E.I.S. STATEMENT. I'M SURE THAT YOUR STAFF HAS A COPY OF THIS....
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| 02:36:27 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
IT WOULDN'T BE A DIFFICULT TO PUT A SPUR IN. THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN HEARINGS AND SO FORTH. MR. ENSIGN: IT'S ABOUT 400 MILES THAT IT HAS TO GO, OR 300-SOME,...
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| 02:36:54 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
LICENSING PROCEDURE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY. WE'RE HERE TO ADVANCE THE PROCESS SO THAT THE APPROPRIATE AGENCIES
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| 02:37:04 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
CAN ADDRESS WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE A LICENSE. THEY MIGHT NOT ISSUE A LICENSE. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GIVING THE AUTHORITY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION...
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| 02:38:05 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
THE COST OF THE RAIL INTO THE NEVADA TEST SITE IS NOT IN THE BUDGETARY PROJECTIONS. THE SECOND THING IS THAT IF A SENATOR IS VOTING ON WHETHER THIS...
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| 02:38:56 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS NOT BE CHARGED TO EITHER SIDE. I HAVE SIX UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUESTS...
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| 02:39:09 |
MR. ENSIGN, -
LEADERS. I WOULD ASK THEY BE AGREED TO AND PRINTED IN THE RECORD. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. WHO YIELDS TIME? MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT?...
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| 02:39:16 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
FROM. MR. REID: IF I COULD SAY
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| 02:39:17 |
MR. REID, -
TO MY FRIEND, THE RANKING MEMBER, SENATOR BOXER IS DUE HERE ANY MINUTE. I WAS WAITING FOR HER TO SPEAK, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE. I WOULD ASK MY FRIEND...
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| 02:39:32 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
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MR. REID, -
MR. ENSIGN:
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MR. PRESIDENT, FIVE
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| 02:39:37 |
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
MINUTES NOW WOULD BE -- I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SO WE CAN CLEAR UP THIS TRANSPORTATION. MR. REID: I WOULD SAY TO MY FRIEND FROM IDAHO, I WOULD...
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| 02:39:55 |
MR. ENSIGN, -
MR. MURKOWSKI: I WOULD ASK THE REMAINING TIME ON EITHER SIDE SO WE CAN START
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| 02:40:02 |
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
OFF ANEW HERE RELEVANT TO WHERE WE ARE. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA CONTROLS 106 MINUTES. AND THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA CONTROLS 125...
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| 02:40:17 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
INTENT AFTER THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA TO RECOGNIZE THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO. MR. REID: I WOULD JUST SAY TO MY
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| 02:40:26 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
FRIEND, IF THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA IS HERE, I'VE EXPLAINED TO THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO THAT SHE WOULD GO FIRST. MR. MURKOWSKI: FINE. THE PRESIDING...
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| 02:40:35 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
ENSIGN: MR. PRESIDENT, AND IF THE SENATOR FROM ALASKA WOULD ENGAGE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
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| 02:40:44 |
MR. REID, -
PART OF OUR DISCUSSION HERE, ESPECIALLY FOR SENATORS LIKE THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA, THE POINT THAT I WAS
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| 02:40:52 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
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| 02:40:53 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
MAKING WAS THAT IF A SENATOR IS WORRIED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION
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| 02:40:57 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
COMING THROUGH THEIR STATES, AND THAT MAY AFFECT -- AND THIS SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES...
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| 02:43:43 |
Murkowski, Frank H. - U.S. Senator, [R] Alaska
SHIPMENTS OF SPENT FUEL UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE REGULATORY -- NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION, FROM 1964 TO THE YEAR 2000. WE'VE SHIPPED THAT WASTE,...
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| 02:46:08 |
Ensign, John - U.S. Senator, [R] Nevada
MIGHT I ASK HOW MUCH TIME THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO WILL REQUIRE. MR. CRAIG: LET'S SEE, WE ARE SET TO RECESS AT 1:30. I AM CONSUME THE BALANCE
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| 02:46:17 |
Reid, Harry - U.S. Senator, [D] Nevada
OF THE TIME. MR. MURKOWSKI: I YIELD THE BALANCE OF THE TIME THIS MORNING TO THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM IDAHO IS...
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| 02:46:26 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
FOR 15
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| 02:46:28 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
MINUTES. MR. CRAIG: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. ALREADY THIS MORNING WE HAVE SEEN AN EXAMPLE OF THE
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| 02:46:33 |
MR. CRAIG, -
KIND OF RECORD THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO BE ESTABLISHED HERE IN PART BY THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA
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| 02:46:40 |
MR. MURKOWSKI, -
WHO WOULD FIRST ARGUE A PROCEDURAL ISSUE THAT I AND
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| 02:46:44 |
THE PRESIDING OFFICER, -
OTHERS INCLUDING RENOWNED PARLIAMENTARIANS ARGUE DOES NOT
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| 02:46:49 |
Craig, Larry E. - U.S. Senator, [R] Idaho
EXIST. CLEARLY THE NUCLEAR WASTE POLICY ACT OF 1982 ESTABLISHED A PROCEDURE, AN EXTRAORDINARY PROCEDURE, NOT A PRECEDENT SETTING PROCEDURE, PARLIAMENTARIANS...
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