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IS INDONESIA, A VAST GROUP OF 17,000 ISLANDS. 6,000 OF THEM ARE INHABITED. 11,000 ARE UNINHABITED, HOME TO SOME 232 MILLION PEOPLE. INDONESIA, SINCE...
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MUCH. GREETINGS TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE LOS ANGELES WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL AND A SPECIAL GREETING TO YOU AND MAY YOU HAVE A VERY HAPPY RESIDENCE IN THE...
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COULD YOU COMMENT ON THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN INDONESIA? >> WELL, IT'S A VERY BIG QUESTION BUT THANKS FOR THE WIDE OPEN INVITATION. IT IS
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THE RELIGION ON THE CENSUS FORMS OF 90% OF THE PEOPLE. THERE IS A FRACTION OF
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THOSE, MERELY NOMINAL MUSLIMS. THEN THERE ARE MANY KINDS OF REAL MUSLIMS. HERE IS THE POINT I THINK YOU PROBABLY ARE REALLY ASKING FOR, CERTAINLY...
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TO THE ARMY. MY -- IN ITS PRESENT FORM. THINGS WILL CHANGE ACROSS TIME. BUT NOT NOW. MY OWN HOPE IN THAT REGARD IS A COUNTER WEIGHT HOPE, WOULD BE...
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COULD BE A KIND OF PERSONAL EXAMPLE AS PRESIDENT OF PERSONAL ISLAMIC FOREIGN POLICY, BEGAN
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TRAVELING AROUND EVERYWHERE. AND BEING A LIKEABLE MAN AND A GOOD MUSLIM, HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD MAKE A FOREIGN POLICY. IT DOESN'T. FOREIGN POLICY HAS...
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AND TRY TO BOIL IT DOWN. THERE IS A KIND OF
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JOURNALIST WHO WRITES BOOKS AND I'M USING THE TITLE OF ONE ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES, IT SAYS
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JUST BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES WORKS WITH AN AUTOCRAT, IT IS UNDERMINING, PER SE, THE DEMOCRACY OF THE PO -- OR THE POTENTIAL FOR DEMOCRACY OF THAT...
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BALI INCIDENT, 10-12-02, ONE MONTH, ONE
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DAY, ONE YEAR AFTER 9/11, 2001, IS THE SECOND MOST LETHAL EVENT IN
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THIS NEW ERA IF WE WANT TO CALL IT A NEW ERA THAT WE'RE CALLING OUR WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. THE INDONESIANS THOUGHT THAT'S THEIR WAR, THE AMERICANS AGAINST...
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TREMENDOUS STRENGTH IN ALL KINDS OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCE OR GROWN THINGS INCLUDING TIMBER. INDONESIA BECAME ONE OF THE WORLD'S VERY TOP PULP AND PLYWOOD...
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REMAINS THERE. IT
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HAS -- AND THINGS LIKE MORE SIMPLE CROPS, CONSUMEABLE BY ORDINARY HUMAN BEINGS, LIKE THE VANILLA AND TAP YOKEA AND COFFEE AND TEA. ALL OF THOSE THINGS...
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| 00:49:25 |
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OF DIFFERENT ENTERPRISES. >> SO I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT SEEMS TO BE A MONUMENTAL
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PROBLEM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNTRIES WITH SIMILAR PROBLEMS? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT? I MEAN, WE WORRY HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER ARMY AND...
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SOUNDS WORRISOME. >> WOULD YOU EXPAND ON THE 70% OFF BUDGET ABOUT THE INDONESIAN ARMY AND ARE THERE COMPARISONS ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD AND SOLUTIONS?...
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SORRY. >> CLOSE ENOUGH. >> IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS A GOOD
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ONE. I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER COUNTRY ON WHICH ONE CAN BE SO SPECIFIC. I JUST DON'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THE DATA. 70%, OFF BUDGET, IS VERY
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HIGH. THE HEART OF YOUR QUESTION,
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I DARE TO SAY, IS
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HOW CAN YOU CHANGE THAT? I AGREE WITH YOUR WORRY ABOUT IT. THE ONLY ANSWER THAT OCCURS TO ME, FRANKLY, IS GETTING A PRESIDENT STRONG ENOUGH TO FACE...
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WELL, THAT'S COMPLEX,
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TOO. BUT IT DESERVES ADDRESSING. THE -- AUSTRALIA WOULD LIKE TO BE SEEN AS AN ASIAN/PACIFIC POWER. GENERALLY, I WOULD SAY MOST ASIAN LAND COUNTRIES...
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NATIONS WOULD REVERSE THE ORDER OF THOSE ADJECTIVES. WELL, THAT'S A PACIFIC AND MORE SOFTLY ASIAN POWER. IT'S -- ITS BEHAVIOR IN THE EAST CRISIS IN...
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IMPLY, AND SUKARN OFM AS PRESIDENT MADE THAT A MAJOR
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THEME. THERE IS A PICTURE IN MY BOOK OF HIM MAKING A SPEECH AGAINST COLONIALISM IN WHICH HIS TEETH -- I WON'T TRY
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TO IMITATE -- HIS TEETH ARE GNASHING, HIS HANDS ARE CLAWING AT THE IMAGINED ENEMY WITHIN HIS REACH. THIS IS 1963. IT WAS A SPEECH MADE IN THE CITY NOW...
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FRIEND THE CONSULATE GENERAL TO EXPLAIN THESE THINGS TO YOU IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION AND HE'LL DO A GREAT JOB, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU AN EVEN MORE COMPLICATED...
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FUN. I KNOW A
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WOMAN WHOSE HISTORY ON HER FATHER'S SIDE IS CHINESE, INDONESIAN FOR THREE GENERATIONS. AND ON HER HUSBAND'S SIDE IT'S CHINESE, INDONESIAN FOR ABOUT 10...
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PREDICT? >> AMOUNT OF DECENTRALIZATION IN THE AMOUNT OF YEARS, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT IN THE NEXT SIX YEARS IN TERMS OF SOCIAL CHANGE? >> WELL, THAT'S...
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OR A RISK ANALYSIS OR A RISKLESS ANALYSIS
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ADVISOR. BUT IT'S FUN TO THINK ABOUT IT. BUT TO RISK A
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