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NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER IN MARTHA'S VINEYARD. DIANE IS A PERSON OF TENACIOUS CURIOSITY. HER FIRST BOOK, THE GREAT SCHOOL WARS, GREW OUT OF A FAIRLY...
00:03:01
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BOOK. IT'S NEVER HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE AS AN HISTORIAN TO ACTUALLY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND BE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO WRITE ABOUT BECAUSE...
00:40:44
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TEXTS TO PAY FOR ALL THIS STUFF, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE CONSUMER WILL BE THE BOARD OF EDUCATION THAT'S BUYING THE BOOKS. >> THE SHORT ANSWER, I HAVE...
00:40:57
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DEPARTMENT HAS THIS KIND OF A BIAS AND SENSITIVITY REVIEW. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES. ALL THE TEST PUBLISHERS DO, AND FREQUENTLY MATERIALS ARE SUBJECT...
00:41:13
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COST. I'M SURE, THOUGH, THAT IT'S NOT INSUBSTANTIAL. >> IS THERE ANYBODY -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE DESCRIBING, SOUND LIKE A SORT OF STRAITJACKET...
00:41:51
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MULTIPLE PUBLISHING HOUSES. THEY CONTROL ABOUT, SOMEWHERE TO 70, 75% OF THE MARKET. THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE IN THAT NICHE OF 25 TO 30%. I HAVE TIME...
00:42:03
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COUNT -- ENCOUNTERED SCHOOLS AND TEACHERS WHERE THE TEACHERS ARE NOT USING TEXTBOOKS OR IF THEY USE THEM, THEY'RE JUST A REFERENCE WORK. THERE ARE...
00:43:49
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ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITY HAS TO MEAN INCREASED CENSORSHIP. WHAT I LEARNED WAS THAT THIS WHOLE ENTERPRISE HAS...
00:44:10
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RESULT OF INCREASED PRESSURE FOR TESTING. IT'S A RESULT OF ALL THOSE OTHER PRESSURES, THE CENSORSHIP GROUPS FINDING HOW EASY IT WAS TO INTIMIDATE...
00:45:31
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THISIZATION, BOTH IN THE SELECTION OF THE BOOK AS WELL AS HIS UPDATE, AND FOR US, I THINK THAT IS THE ANSWER. PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL INFORMED AND WELL...
00:46:11
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PUBLISHING, LIKE THIS IS -- MY BOOK IS PUBLISHED BY KNOPF. IF I CAN CREATE HUGE CONTROVERSIES, I'LL SELL MORE BOOKS. IN THE TEXTBOOK BUSINESS, IF ...
00:46:56
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SILLY, THAT I WONDER WHAT HAS
00:46:59
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BEEN THE REACTION TO YOUR PUBLICATION. NOW THE BOOK IS NEW, BUT YOU HAVE SURELY PUBLISHED SHORTER PIECES ELSEWHERE AND SO ON. HOW ARE PEOPLE RESPONDING...
00:47:35
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EDUCATION DEPARTMENT, AS I SAID, SAID WE WON'T DO IT ANYMORE, BUT THEY'RE STILL DOING IT. THEY'RE DOING IT A LITTLE BIT NOW, AND I THINK BASICALLY WHAT...
00:50:02
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PROPERTY. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. HOW DO THEY GET OVER THAT? CAN THAT BE USED TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING? >> WELL, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION,...
00:50:29
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LAST NAME. ILL MISPRONOUNCE IT. IT WAS A STORY CALLED "BARRIO BOY" AND HE REFERRED TO A WOMAN AS A GRINNING OWE AND THEY SAID THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE,...
00:51:32
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MATERIAL AND HOW WOULD YOU HAVE IT IMPLEMENTED SO THAT IT DOESN'T MUSHROOM INTO THE MONSTROSITY THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED HERE? >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION,...
00:51:59
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EFFECTS OF SENSITIVITY ANALYSIS IS VERY SLENDER AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. I AM STILL LOOKING FOR ANY RESEARCH THAT WILL PROVE TO ME THAT IF A STUDENT SEES...
00:54:06
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TEACHERS. AND YOU KNOW, SO IF WE'RE SITTING HERE IN THIS SEAT AND WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU GO SO FAR AS TO ACTUALLY BUY THE BOOK, THEN DO WE REALLY WANT...
00:55:42
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THE LITERATURE TEXTBOOKSES THAT I JUST FELT WAS AWFUL IS THEY DON'T MAKE ANY EFFORT TO SAY THIS IS
00:55:49
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WHAT GOOD WRITING LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE
00:55:51
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THEY INCLUDE SO MUCH BAD WRITING, SO THEY DON'T REALLY
00:55:54
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ENCOURAGE A SENSE OF STANDARDS
00:55:56
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ABOUT THIS IS A WOIFLT WAY TO USE THE LANGUAGE -- WONDERFUL WAY TO USE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE. THERE WAS ONE LITERATURE TEXTBOOK THAT HAD PART OF...
00:58:07
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PILLAGED. NOW WE DESCRIBE THE VIKINGS AS AGENTS OF THE CULTURAL EXCHANGE,
00:58:13
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AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM SOMEONE WHO HEARD THIS AND HE SAID, "I'M A MEMBER OF THE SOCIETY OF CREATIVE ANACHRONISM, I'M A DESCENDANT...

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