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HOPELESS. THAT WAS THEODORE DREISER'S VISION OF EARLY 20TH CENTURY CHICAGO AS DEPICTED IN HIS FIRST NOVEL "SISTER CARRIE," THIS WEEK C-SPAN LOOKS AT...
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ARE THAT HE WAS PART OF A REVOLT, SO THE SORT OF SOCIAL CONFLICTS TAKING PLACE IN CHICAGO FOUND THEIR WAY IN THE PAGES OF NOVELS
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| 00:02:31 |
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IN A WAY THEY HADN'T IN THE PAST. IF WE THINK OF THE FIRST GREAT MOMENT IN THE AMERICAN LITERARY HISTORY, LIKE IN THE RENAISSANCE PERIOD, THEIR CHARACTERS...
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| 00:03:34 |
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AMERICANS IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS MEMBERS OF A CLASS, BE IT THE SORT OF GROWING MIDDLE CLASS IN A CITY LIKE CHICAGO WHICH WE
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| 00:03:43 |
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SEE IN "SISTER CARRIE," OR MEMBERS OF A WORKING CLASS AND UNIONIZATION REALLY GATHERS STEAM BY THE TEENS AND THE 1920'S, SO THAT THE I.W.W. AND THE KNIGHTS...
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| 00:05:03 |
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AGRICULTURE STUMBLES SOMEWHAT AT THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, MY
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| 00:05:09 |
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GRANTS POUR INTO THE CITIES TO WORK IN THE DEPARTMENT STORES, IT BECOMES A PLACE TO START ANEW FOR -- IMMIGRATION IN THIS PERIOD CHANGES, IN MID-CENTURY,...
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| 00:05:48 |
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LAND. WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND WHO ARE THE
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POLITICAL PARTIES IN POWER AT THIS TIME? >> HE LIVES FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME. >> LET'S START WITH 1900 TO 1930. >> MCKINLEY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW...
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| 00:06:07 |
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PROFESSOR RIGGIO WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE. I DON'T KNOW THAT NATIONAL POLITICS WERE CLOSE TO HIS HEART AS MUCH AS
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LOCAL UNIONIZATION OR LABOR MOVEMENTS. HE'S INTERESTED
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IN BUSINESSMEN, IN
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ENTREPRENEURIAL ACTIVITY MORE THAN HE IS IN THE TRANSITION OF A PARTY SYSTEM. >> WE'LL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON THEODORE DREISER AND HIS VIEW OF...
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| 00:06:51 |
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MOUNTAIN OR PACIFIC TIME ZONES, 202-624-111 5. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND EMAIL, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT ALSO. WE HAVE WITH US THOMAS RIGGIO, HE HAS...
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| 00:07:55 |
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1925 HE WAS CONSIDERED -- HE INTER-- HE WAS THE FOREMOST NOVELIST OF THE DAY. THERE WERE RADIO PROGRAMS, NEWSPAPERS, WHATEVER. I THINK WE KIND OF FORGET...
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| 00:09:33 |
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WAS A
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CATHOLIC. HE -- THEY WENT -- THE MOTHER WAS A CONVERT, BUT SHE -- SHE WAS A CONVERT AND DREISER GREW UP GOING TO SCHOOLS WHERE THEY SPOKE GERMAN IN THE...
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| 00:10:45 |
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BECAUSE HE STARTED GETTING INVOLVED IN SOCIAL CAUSES, BY THE TIME THE 1930'S CAME
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| 00:10:51 |
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ALONG, HE WAS LESS INTERESTED IN WRITING FICTION.
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| 00:10:54 |
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HE HAD A FUNNY
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| 00:10:57 |
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REPUTATION. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT "SISTER CARRIE" IS THAT IT WAS SUPPRESSED, IT WAS CENSORED. WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT LATER. IT...
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| 00:12:07 |
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THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND SARA FENTON, PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AT NORTHWEST UNIVERSITY, SHE EXAMINES HISTORY AND LITERATURE IN FIVE GREAT AMERICAN NOVELS AND...
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| 00:12:28 |
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COUNTRY. THE FIRST
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CALL ON OUR AUTHOR THEODORE DREISER IS FROM GEORGIA. CALLER: YES. GOOD MORNING, C-SPAN. >> GOOD MORNING. YES, SIR. LOUD AND CLEAR. CALLER: I'VE REALLY...
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| 00:12:58 |
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AND DREISER, ANY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CHARACTER OF "SISTER CARRIE" AND THE CHARACTER IN HIS BOOK? >> WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT? WE'LL START WITH DR....
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CARRIE" WHO, YOU KNOW, THE SIMILARITIES AND THEME BETWEEN "SISTER
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| 00:13:35 |
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CARRIE" IS THE FALLEN WOMAN. I THINK THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT MAKES "SISTER CARRIE" A MODERN BOOK AND FLOBARE AN EARLIER 19TH CENTURY VERSION...
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| 00:14:48 |
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SUPPOSEDLY BASED ON A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN MY HOMETOWN, IT IS THE CHESTER MURDER CASE OF 1906. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT IF I COULD....
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| 00:15:23 |
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CASE "SISTER CARRIE" DOES -- SISTER CARRIE DOES NOT DIE. BUT AS TO THIS CALLER, I THINK
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| 00:15:34 |
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TOM SHOULD ANSWER THIS. >> LET ME ESTABLISH ONE THING. "AMERICAN TRAGEDY" WAS PUBLISHED WHAT YEAR? >> 19125 -- 1925. >> WAS IT BASED ON A REAL-LIFE...
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| 00:15:58 |
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OF THE BIG FACTORIES MURDERED HIS
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PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND. SINCE WE HAD A LITTLE
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DISCUSSION
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IN BETWEEN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE QUESTION REPEATED AGAIN. >> THE QUESTION WAS, INDEED, WAS IT BASED ON A REAL INCIDENT AND IT WAS IN THE ADDA RON DACKS....
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| 00:16:32 |
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MOST FAMOUS ONE IS "A PLACE IN THE SUN. >> DR. RIGGIO, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THEODORE DREISER BECAME A WRITER IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> WELL WHY...
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| 00:16:50 |
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KNOW -- HE WAS A BOOKISH KID FROM THE BEGINNING. HIS BROTHER, AFTER HIS DEATH, SAID -- AT
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| 00:16:59 |
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AGE 15 WAS WRITING POETRY. WE KNOW FROM HIS BIOGRAPHIES, HE WAS BOOKISH, AND HE ALSO -- ONE
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| 00:17:07 |
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OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT WRITERS IN DREISER'S GENERATION IS THAT THEY BEGAN AS NEWSPAPER AMERICAN, AND THE JOURNALISTS IN THE 1890'S, WHICH IS WHEN...
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| 00:18:35 |
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AHEAD. CALLER: I
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JUST AM
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CURIOUS HOW YOU SEE "SISTER CARRIE" IN RELATION TO OTHER GREAT AMERICAN NOVELS. I'M
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| 00:18:48 |
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THINKING OF "THE GREAT GATSBY." I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT. >> WHAT A SMART QUESTION. THE PROFESSOR AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS...
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| 00:19:16 |
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LONGING, SO WHAT WE GET AT THE END OF "THE GREAT GATSBY," IS THAT HE HAS WHAT GITS GERALD -- FITZGERALD CALLS A FASCINATION WITH LONGING, HIS DESIRE...
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| 00:21:02 |
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COLUMBIA CITY, WISCONSIN. SHE GOES TO LIVE WITH HER SISTER WHO IS PART OF THE WORKING POOR OF CHICAGO. IMMEDIATELY
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| 00:21:10 |
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IT IS -- IT -- MEETS ON THE TRAIN TO CHICAGO A DRUMMER, A -- A SALESMAN WHO IMPRESSES HER WITH HIS CLOTHES, SHE'S OBVIOUSLY A POOR GIRL WHO COMES TO...
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| 00:22:05 |
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THE FALL. >> LET
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| 00:22:07 |
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ME INTERRUPT THE STORY ABOUT A YOUNG GIRL FROM THE COUNTRY WHO COMES TO THE CITY TO TAKE THIS NEXT CALL AND WE'LL FINISH UP THE PLOT AND TAKE A CALL...
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| 00:22:28 |
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HIM A GREAT DEAL, HE TOLD B OLZACK, DREISER WAS A SLOW READER, BUT HE -- HE REMEMBERED EVERYTHING HE HAD READ. AND -- >> HOW DID YOU KNOW DREISER,...
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| 00:23:04 |
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WRITER IN HIS YOUTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUGHT TO BE MENTIONED IS
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| 00:23:10 |
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THAT HE HAD A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER WHO THOUGHT HE WAS VERY GIFTED AND SHE TOOK ALL OF HER SAVINGS OUT OF THE BANK SO THAT HE COULD GO TO THE UNIVERSITY...
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| 00:23:58 |
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CORRESPONDANCE. >> SO YOU KNOW HER THROUGH YOUR BIOGRAPHICAL WORK? >> YEAH. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO
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| 00:24:07 |
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SISTER CARRIE AT THE END? >> WELL, MORE THINGS HAPPENED TO THE OTHER MAN INVOLVED. SISTER CARRIE BECOMES A SUCCESS ON THE
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| 00:24:21 |
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STAGE. I MEN, SHE
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| 00:24:23 |
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DISCOVERS WHILE IN CHICAGO, SHE GETS
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| 00:24:27 |
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INTO AN AMATEUR THEATRICAL PERFORMANCE, THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE A TALENT, AT LEAST A DESIRE TO BE ON THE
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| 00:24:35 |
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STAGE. WHEN THEY MOVE TO NEW YORK, HERSCT WOULD STEAL MONEY, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO FLEE TOWN AND THEY MOVE TO NEW YORK. HE HAS A -- HE GOES DOWNHILL....
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| 00:25:19 |
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QUESTION. I REMEMBER TAKING NOTES FROM THE HISTORY SINCE
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| 00:25:23 |
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1900, AMERICAN HISTORY SINCE 1900, AND THESE ARE THE NOTES
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| 00:25:28 |
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I TOOK FROM MY PROFESSOR. IT SAID THAT THE AUTHOR WHO HELPED -- EXCUSE
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| 00:25:35 |
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ME. THE AUTHOR THAT MORE AN UNVARIED DIET OF SWEETNESS AND LIGHT WAS THEODORE DREISER. HIS FIRST NOVEL, "SISTER CARRIE" IN 1900 DEALT WITH PROSTITUTION...
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| 00:26:48 |
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DREISER NOW IS THAT HE WAS SO CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE HE SEEMS NOW TO BE TERRIBLY ERNEST IN SO MANY WAYS AND
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| 00:26:54 |
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WHETHER OR NOT KRAER
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| 00:26:58 |
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FACES SOME SORT OF TERRIBLE END OR HE FELT A LOT
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| 00:27:02 |
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OF AMBIVALENCE ABOUT AN AMERICAN BUSINESS CLASS, NEVERTHELESS HE APPROACHED HIS SUBJECT WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ERNESTNESS. IT'S JUST NOT A TERRIBLY...
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| 00:28:02 |
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HAWTHORNE PERIOD, YOU GET A SENSE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL, AND BY INDIVIDUAL I MEAN WHITE MEN IN MOST CASES, IS IN CONTROL OF HIS DESTINY, RIGHT? THAT HE...
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| 00:28:14 |
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SCHOOL, FRANK NORRIS, DRIESER, IS A SENSE THAT MAN IS BEING SHAPED BY A WEB OF FORCES THAT ARE LARGELY OUTSIDE OF HIS CONTROL. SO WITH SOCIAL DARWINISM...
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| 00:30:09 |
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US AND THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED PHONES. THIS ONE FROM JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. GO AHEAD PLEASE. JACKSONVILLE, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. CALLER: YES. I AM...
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| 00:31:02 |
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IN 1915 CALLED "THE GENIUS" WAS LITERALLY SUPPRESSED BECAUSE YOU HAD THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS NAME MEANS ANYTHING TO ANYONE NOW DAYS BUT
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| 00:31:12 |
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| 00:31:14 |
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ANTHONY COMSTOCK AND THE SOCIETY FOR SUPPRESSION OF VICE. BECAUSE OF THE ATTACK ON THE BOOK, IT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH THE MAIL. THERE WAS A...
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| 00:32:09 |
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TWO SPECIFIC ILLUSTRATIONS. IT WAS SAID EARLIER, IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE PROGRAM, THAT IT WASN'T KNOWN WHETHER DRIESER READ "MADAME BALZAK" AND THEN...
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| 00:34:23 |
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DIDN'T COME FROM THAT BOOK BUT FROM BALZAK, WHO WROTE BOOKS, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, THE
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| 00:34:29 |
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BOOK THAT CARRIE HAS IN HER LAP AT THE END OF THE NOVEL IS WRITTEN BY BALZAK AND HE WROTE BOOKS WITH FAMILIAR ILLIAL TITLES TO THEM, "COUSIN BETH" AND...
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| 00:37:19 |
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IN THOSE DAYS WERE CALLED MACHINES. WE'LL GET TO HOOSIER HOLIDAY A LITTLE LATER IN THE PROGRAM. TWO CENTS FOR POSTAGE. I GUESS THE FIRST CLASS LETTER....
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| 00:38:10 |
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BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY HE IS ABLE TO PURCHASE A BULL MIDWAY THROUGH IT AND IT IS A BIG DEAL BUT BY THE TURN OF THE CENTURY IT ISN'T JUST...
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| 00:40:10 |
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E-MAIL US WE'LL BE READING SOME OF THOSE AND THE ADDRESS FOR THAT IS WRITERS@C-SPAN.ORG. BE SURE TO ADD THE HYPHEN IN THE C-SPAN. OUR NEXT CALL FOR...
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| 00:41:43 |
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HISTORIANS. IN OTHER WORDS, HIS TEXTS ARE MORE USEFUL AS PRIMARY SOURCES THAN AS SECONDARY SOURCES. AND NOW THE QUESTIONS
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| 00:41:50 |
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THAT
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| 00:41:51 |
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INTEREST LITERATURE PEOPLE MOST
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| 00:41:53 |
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ARE OFTEN QUESTIONS OF NARRATIVE, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT "SISTER CARRIE" OR "JENNIE GERHARDT" THE NOVELS THAT YOU LIKE ALOT, THINK ABOUT, WHEN IS CARRIE...
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| 00:43:00 |
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DIFFICULT. STUDENTS HAVE A SHORTER TIME SPAN TODAY. >> ARE YOU SAYING SHORT ATTENTION SPAN? >> ATTENTION SPAN. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, "AMERICAN TRAGEDY"...
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| 00:43:23 |
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DIFFICULT TO FIT THAT INTO A COURSE UNLESS
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| 00:43:26 |
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YOU'RE DOING A COURSE ON DRIESER. NOW I DO A GRADUATE COURSE FOR INSTANCE IN WHICH I DO THEODORE DREISER AND IT'S FILLED AND PEOPLE, LIKE OUR EARLIER...
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| 00:44:04 |
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READ
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| 00:44:05 |
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ROBERT PENWARREN'S BOOK IN WHICH HE THINKS HE IS THE GREAT AMERICAN NOVELIST NOT AS A SOCIAL WRITER BUT AS A NOVELIST. >> YES. >> AND SO WE CAN'T SIT...
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| 00:44:35 |
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DIED AT THE AGE OF 74
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| 00:44:36 |
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AND IT TALKS ABOUT HOW HE CAME TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. THEN ONE DAY H.L. MENCKEN GAZED FROM HIS BALTIMORE STUDY ACROSS THE COUNTRY'S LITERARY WASTELAND...
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| 00:44:47 |
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ESSAYS, HE STANDS ISOLATED TODAY, A FIGURE WEATHER BEATEN AND LONELY, YET I CAN THINK OF NO AMERICAN NOVELIST WHO SEEMS SO SECURE OR SO LIKELY TO...
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| 00:46:04 |
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MARX BROTHERS FILM IN WHICH GROUCHO IS BEING TEMPTED BY A SEDUCTRESS TO FIX A FOOTBALL GAME. SHE IS ROWING HIM IN A CANOE. HE LOOKS OUT TO THE AUDIENCE...
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| 00:46:18 |
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IN A CANOE SINCE I READ "THE AMERICAN TRAGEDY." NOW, WHAT WOULD
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| 00:46:22 |
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HAVE MADE THEM THINK A GAG LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE FOUND AN AUDIENCE WITH THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WENT TO THEIR MOVIES? AND I JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH....
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| 00:46:52 |
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I KNOW THE SCENE. >> ALL RIGHT. BUT WHAT DOES THAT SAY, A POPULAR CULTURE FIGURE
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| 00:46:56 |
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LIKE THE MARX BROTHERS
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| 00:46:57 |
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WOULD INVOKE THE NAME OF THEODORE DREISER. >> THE MARX BROTHERS INCLUDED ALL SORTS OF REFERENCES TO THINGS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LOST ON THEIR AUDIENCE...
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| 00:47:04 |
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EXAMPLE OF THAT. BUT THE OTHER
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| 00:47:05 |
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THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT EVEN
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| 00:47:07 |
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IF LITERACY RATES WERE
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FAIRLY LOW, OR IF
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| 00:47:10 |
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THE BOOKS
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| 00:47:11 |
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WERE PURCHASED IN SMALLER NUMBERS, THEY WERE
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| 00:47:13 |
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ALSO HANDED AROUND AND PLACES LIKE SALOONS, THE KIND OF SALOON WE FIND AT THE BEGINNING OF "SISTER CARRIE", WERE
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| 00:47:19 |
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PLACES IN WHICH PEOPLE DISCUSSED THESE SORTS OF THINGS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TV. SO THEY TALKED ABOUT THESE NOVELS MUCH MORE THAN WE MAY NOW. EVEN HAD...
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| 00:47:54 |
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ASKING IS HOW IS IT GETTING TO POPULAR CULTURE. THERE IS A CONTEST AFTER THE PUBLICATION OF "AMERICAN TRAGEDY" IN WHICH THE
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| 00:48:05 |
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QUESTION
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| 00:48:07 |
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WAS, DID HE DO
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| 00:48:09 |
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IT OR DIDN'T HE DO IT? DID HE REALLY MURDER HER OR DIDN'T HE MURDER HER? SO THIS WAS SOMETHING WHICH WENT THROUGH NATIONAL AUDIENCES. AND, OF COURSE,...
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| 00:48:59 |
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PETER ALTER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>
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| 00:49:01 |
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YES I CAN. >> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT
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| 00:49:03 |
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IT IS THAT YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO AND WHY THOSE PARTICULAR ELEMENTS ARE PART OF THE DISPLAY HERE AT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY? >> WELL, THE PART OF...
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| 00:49:21 |
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CHRISTMAS DAY 1865, THE SAME YEAR THE CIVIL
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| 00:49:23 |
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WAR ENDED. THE STOCKYARDS WERE REALLY A CRITICAL EMPLOYMENT BASE FOR THE
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| 00:49:32 |
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CITY. STOCKYARDS, STEEL AND RAILROADS. AND AS WE KNOW FROM READING THE NOVEL, CARRIE'S BROTHER-IN-LAW HANSON WORKED IN THE STOCKYARDS. BEHIND ME IS...
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| 00:50:54 |
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CITY AT THE TIME? >> WELL, I THINK USING AGAIN "SISTER CARRIE" YOU SEE THE SHOE INDUSTRY AS ONE OF THOSE SORT OF SWEATSHOP, LABOR TYPE INDUSTRIES. ...
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| 00:51:22 |
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PART, UNORGANIZED WORKERS. YOU HAVE FOREMEN WHO ARE PRIMARILY NORTHERN AND WESTERN EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS AND ALSO NATIVE-BORN AMERICANS. AND THE UNSCHOOLED...
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| 00:52:01 |
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TOP WE HAVE
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| 00:52:03 |
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WOMEN WRAPPING SOAP, WHICH WAS A VERY -- ONE OF THE COMMON SORT OF SWEATSHOP INDUSTRIES, BUT WOMEN MIGHT GET PAID BY A PIECE RATE AS IN A SHOE TYPE...
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| 00:53:06 |
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FOR A FEW YEARS AND I FIRST RAN ACROSS HIM WITH MY STUDENTS. HE WAS VERY POPULAR WITH PARTICULAR AREAS
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| 00:53:16 |
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OF EUROPE. I UNDERSTAND HE WAS A COMMUNIST OR THEY THOUGHT HE WAS A SOCIALIST. MY STUDENT SAID SOMETHING THAT HE WAS LIKE, TO HIM, DICKINSON TO THE ENGLISH,...
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| 00:54:32 |
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REALLY THE FIRST PERIOD OF SUBSTANTIAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN MIGRATION TO CHICAGO SO THAT BY THE END OF THE CENTURY AFRICAN-AMERICANS
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| 00:54:38 |
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PROBABLY MAKE UP 4% OF THE CITY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GREAT MIGRATION DURING THE TEENS IN WHICH WORLD WAR I INDUSTRY AND THE DECLINE OF SOUTHERN...
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| 00:55:20 |
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HE AS A REPORTER WHEN HE WAS IN ST. LOUIS HE ACTUALLY WORKED ON THE, YOU KNOW, REPORTED THIS CASE. AND HE SAW THE LYNCHING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON...
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| 00:55:38 |
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LATE 1890'S
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| 00:55:40 |
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WHEN HE WROTE THIS, IT DOESN'T SEE IT DOESN'T SEE THE BLACK MAN EVEN THOUGH HE RAPED SOMEONE AT THAT POINT AS A -- AS A BEAST. HE -- HE REALLY -- HE...
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| 00:57:08 |
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FAMOUS SONGWRITER WHO WROTE THE SONG BACK HOME IN INDIANA BASED ON THAT HE WAS A PRO NAZI AND ALSO PRO-COMMUNIST AT THE SAME TIME THAT HE WAS 18 JEWISH,...
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| 00:57:56 |
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PUNISHED -- CARRIE WASN'T PUNISHED. THIS IS AN IRONY HE MAY HAVE APPRECIATED. >>
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| 00:58:04 |
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WHAT ABOUT THE CALLER'S OBSERVATIONS THAT HE ANTI-SEMITIC AND PRO-COMMUNIST AND NAZI AT THE SAME TIME? >> HIS ANTI-SEMITISM IS ONE OF THE MOST DISTURBING...
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| 00:58:25 |
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WERE TERRIBLY POOR THEMSELVES, EVERYONE WHO IS JEWISH WHO SHOWS UP IN "SISTER CARRIE" IS A TIGHT-FISTED MANAGER OR BOSS, TO TROT OUT
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| 00:58:36 |
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THE OLD STEREOTYPE IS -- IS INFURIATING ABOUT DREISER. ABOUT HIS COMMUNIST SYMPATHIES AND YOU WHO THEY CONFLICTED WITH HIS NAZI SYMPATHY, MAYBE TOM CAN...
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| 00:59:13 |
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THEY ARE POLITICALLY CORRECT. IT'S A USEFUL OBSERVATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT GETS
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| 00:59:21 |
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US. >> DR. RIGGIO, DO YOU AGREE? >> LET ME RESPOND TO THE NAZI AND COMMUNISM VIEW. THE EASIEST WAY TO TALK TO THE NAZI VERSION IS THAT IN NAZI GERMANY...
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| 00:59:45 |
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WRITER. >> THAT'S TERRIFIC. >>
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| 00:59:47 |
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BECAUSE OF HIS NAME? >> NO, BECAUSE OF THE CONTENT OF HIS BOOKS. NOW -- NOW I'M NOT SURE WHAT SARA IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE SAYS THERE IS A LOT...
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THE PROPRIETOR WAS
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| 01:00:07 |
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JEWISH, BUT I DON'T FIND --
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| 01:00:10 |
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YOU KNOW, I -- I THINK THAT THE REAL TEST OF WHETHER IS SOMEBODY WHO IS ANTI-SEMITIC IF -- AS IN T.S. ELLIOTT OR HENRY ADAMS, IF THERE IS ANTI-SEMITISM...
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| 01:02:41 |
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COULD YOU COMMENT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
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| 01:02:44 |
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OF DREISER'S UPBRINGING IN INDIANA. MORE SPECIFICALLY HIS MOTHER, PROSTITUTION AND EARLY ABUSE
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| 01:02:53 |
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AND ALSO -- >> WE'LL DO THAT. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND WHEN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION? CALLER: YES, BASICALLY THE -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND OF...
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| 01:03:15 |
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SHE WAS EMPLOYED IN A HOUSE OF ILL REPUTE, SO TO SPEAK, AND HE GREW UP ON SECOND STREET AMONG PROSTITUTION AND DRINKING AND I -- I MEAN, I WAS -- I WONDERED...
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| 01:03:55 |
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HE CHANGED HIS NAME. >>
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| 01:04:00 |
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I THINK WE HAVE ANSWERS FOR THAT. WHAT DO YOU THINK HE SAID ABOUT HIS
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| 01:04:07 |
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MOTHER? >> I THINK THAT IS FOR HIS BIOGRAPHER. >> IN TERRE HAUTE, HE SPENT SEVEN YEARS OF HIS LIFE THERE, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST PROSPEROUS PERIODS...
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| 01:04:21 |
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WHAT HAPPENED LATER, HIS FATHER WAS MORE PROSPEROUS THERE THAN LATER ON. THE MOTHER WAS A STRICT CONVERT TO THE
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| 01:04:29 |
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CATHOLIC CHURCH. >> SHE WAS NOT A PROSTITUTE? >> SHE WAS NOT A PROSTITUTE,
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| 01:04:34 |
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NO. NOR DID SHE RUN A HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION. >> DID HE CHANGE HIS NAME? >> NO, IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THE NAME IS DREISER, TO AMERICANIZE IT A...
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TO TERREHAUTE? >> YES. >> CAN YOU
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COMPARE IT? >>
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| 01:05:00 |
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WELL, I CAME 100 YEARS LATER, AND NOW YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BASKETBALL PLAYER'S NAME, LARRY BIRD'S RESTAURANT THERE, IT IS HARD TO CHARACTERIZE...
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| 01:05:16 |
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BROTHER, PAUL
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DREISER, THERE IS
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A PLAQUE TO
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| 01:05:22 |
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PAUL DREISER, BUT NOBODY HAS A PLAQUE FOR THEODORE DREISER. >> DID HE WRITE THE SONG? >> YES, HE WROTE THE SONG. >> SO IN TERRE HAUTE, THERE IS NO COMMEMORATION...
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| 01:05:50 |
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WRITE IT. SUPPOSEDLY HE WROTE THE FIRST
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VERSE. >> HOW WOULD THE BROTHER HAVE FARED IN A DREISER NOVEL? >>
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| 01:05:58 |
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THE BROTHER ACTUALLY IS -- IS THE
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| 01:06:01 |
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OBJECT OF SOME OF HIS WRITING. >> RIGHT. >> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION YOU ASK BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO WRITE CYST -- TO WRITE "SISTER...
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| 01:06:15 |
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THE -- WAS THE NOVEL ABOUT A -- A SONGWRITER
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WHO, THOUGH FAMOUS,
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| 01:06:23 |
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LIKE
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| 01:06:24 |
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CARRIE, THERE'S THE INFECTION OF THE -- OF DISCONTENT EVEN THROUGH SUCCESS, SO HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF WRITING -- BUT HE DID WRITE A WONDERFUL PIECE...
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| 01:07:03 |
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MARKET RIOTS -- HAYMARKET RIOTS OF EARLY 1886. I CHOSE THIS TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE VIEWERS AND CALLERS FOR TODAY BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES ONE A SENSE OF...
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| 01:07:20 |
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WHEN CARRIE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN COMING TO THE CITY. ALSO THE FACT THAT THE HAYMARKET RIOTERS, THOSE WHO WERE PROTESTING AGAINST THE 10, 12-HOUR...
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| 01:08:05 |
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AT THAT TIME THERE WAS NO EIGHT-HOUR DAY. AND THERE WERE A SERIES OF
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| 01:08:10 |
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DEMONSTRATIONS ON MAY 5TH, 1886, THERE WAS A -- THE FINAL DEMONSTRATION AND, OF COURSE, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CONFLICTING INTERPRETATIONS, BUT THE...
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| 01:09:04 |
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THEN THE MAYOR OF CHICAGO. IT SAYS THAT CHICAGOIANS DON'T GO OUT IN THE STREETS,
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| 01:09:11 |
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DON'T COMMEMORATE THE MURDERS THE DAY AFTER, DO STRIKE OR AT LEAST PICKET THESE KINDS OF THINGS. ALSO IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER IS AN INTERESTING...
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| 01:10:01 |
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SISTER CARRIE COMES FROM COLUMBIA CITY TO CHICAGO VIA RAIL, SHE MEETS A
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| 01:10:11 |
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TRAVELING SALESMAN, HOW DOES HE GET AROUND THE COUNTRY, BY RAIL. THIS IS A LOCOMOTIVE FROM AN EARLIER TIME PERIOD. I THINK IT WAS DECOMMINNISHED IN...
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| 01:10:50 |
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AROUND THE TURN OF
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| 01:10:51 |
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THE CENTURY. FIRST CALL, I GUESS, IS FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS. GO AHEAD. AUSTIN, YOU'RE ON THE AIR.
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| 01:11:03 |
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DO WE HAVE AUSTIN,
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| 01:11:05 |
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TEXAS, WITH US? IF
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| 01:11:07 |
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NOT, BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, WILL GO. CALLER: HI. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I HAD A QUESTION. I WANTED TO KNOW DESPITE BEING A WORK OF...
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| 01:11:31 |
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SINCLAIR? >> THOUGH DREISER IS THOUGHT TO BE A REALIST AND MANY PEOPLE SHERKED FROM WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF AS A HORRIFYING VIEW OF THE CITY, THE PAGES...
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| 01:11:52 |
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TERRIBLE-SMELLING CITY, AND THE STOCKYARDS AND THE AREAS AROUND THE MEAT-PACKING INDUSTRY, THIS WAS THE CENTER OF MEAT PROCESSING AND THE CITY SMELLED...
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| 01:14:03 |
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1930? >> YES. >> FLOYD DALE, ANDERSON. >> WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN COMMON? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH WRITER YOU'RE TALKING
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| 01:14:14 |
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ABOUT. THAT'S TOO BROAD A QUESTION TO ASK. THEY DON'T HAVE
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| 01:14:17 |
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ANY ONE THING IN COMMON. PERHAPS THEY ALL WROTE ABOUT CHICAGO. BUT I'D LIKE TO GET BACK TO
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| 01:14:22 |
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THIS QUESTION -- >> LET'S DO THAT AFTER WE --
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| 01:14:24 |
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WE'RE COMING UP ON A BREAK HERE AND
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| 01:14:27 |
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WE WANT TO GET THIS LAST CALL IN
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| 01:14:29 |
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FROM COLUMBUS, MISSISSIPPI. GO
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| 01:14:32 |
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AHEAD, PLEASE. CALLER: YES, IN READING ABOUT DREISER, I HEAR HIM DESCRIBED AS A WRITER OF NATURALISM. CAN YOU CONTRAST NATURALISM WITH REALISM, AND...
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| 01:14:43 |
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OF NATURALISM? >> WE HAVE AN ACADEMIC DEBATE AS TO WHO WILL ANSWER THIS QUESTION. >> NATURALISM MAY HAVE STARRED WITH FRANK NOR IS, WHICH, -- STARRED...
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| 01:15:08 |
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ARE CAUGHT IN A WEB, THEY'RE OFTEN TRAGIC IN TONE, YOU GET A SENSE OF
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| 01:15:13 |
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DEFEAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING TOWARD THEIR OWN DECLINE, NATURALIST WRITERS ARE RICH IN DETAIL, THEY FEEL THAT THE DETAILS ALONE CONVEY AS MUCH OF...
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| 01:16:43 |
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WHAT ARE THE COMMON -- WHAT ARE THE COMMON DENOMINATORS THAT ARE SO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALLY? DREISER HIMSELF, WE CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT RIGHT NOW, THOUGHT...
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| 01:17:38 |
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THE NEWBURY LIBRARY, WHO WILL SHOW US A FEW OF DREISER'S LETTERS FROM THEIR COLLECTION AND WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING YOU...
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| 01:26:17 |
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WITH SARA FENTON OF -- WE'RE HERE WITH SARA FENTON OF NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY AND DR. TOM RIGGIO, ENGLISH PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY I OF CONNECTICUT,...
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| 01:27:09 |
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CASE. IN BOTH CASES HE RETURNED TO THE NEWSPAPER WRITING TO POPULARIZE THAT THESE MEN WERE WRONGLY ACCUSED. HE TOOK UP THE CASE OF TOM MOONY AND EMMA...
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| 01:27:54 |
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AS AN ORGANIZATION OF WORKERS REALLY DISINTEGRATES AFTER HAYMARKET. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PERIOD IN WHICH INDUSTRIALISTS SUCH AS GEORGE PULLMAN WHO...
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| 01:28:06 |
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WORKER COMFORT AND SOLIDARITY REALLY FALL APART, SO THAT WORKERS SIMPLY NEED TO RESTATE THE FACT AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT WHAT THEY NEED ARE DECENT WAGES...
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| 01:29:38 |
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AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR DURING THE MCCARTHY ERA, SO THAT WHATEVER YOUR ACTIONS, YOUR SYMPATHIES MADE YOU
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| 01:29:45 |
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A POSSIBLE -- MADE YOU OPEN TO THE SCRUTINIZING EYES OF SOME SORT OF FEDERAL TROOPS WHO CAME IN, OFTEN WHEN TROOPS WOULD INVADE ANY SORT OF LOCAL MEETING...
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| 01:30:34 |
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MAKE A DISTINCTION HERE BETWEEN THE
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| 01:30:36 |
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PERIOD
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| 01:30:39 |
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FROM 1900 TO 1930, JUST ABOUT THAT TIME WHEN HE WENT TO RUSSIA IN 1927. HE WENT THERE AS A RAMPANT
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| 01:30:49 |
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INDIVIDUALIST, CRITICAL OF THE COMMUNIST SYSTEM. HE CAME HOME, HOWEVER, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME SAW A BREAD LINE AND HE WROTE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING...
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| 01:31:43 |
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I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS THAT SOMEBODY ACCUSED HIM
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| 01:31:49 |
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| 01:31:50 |
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OF PLAGERIZING OTHER WRITING ON RUSSIA AND THERE WAS A
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| 01:31:53 |
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BIG TO DO ABOUT THAT, DOROTHY THOMPSON BEING SINCLAIR LEWIS'S WIFE. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT OTHER BOOKS HE HAS WRITTEN IN ADDITION TO "DRIESER GOES...
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| 01:32:18 |
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ALSO WROTE IN ADDITION TO "SISTER CARRIE" AND "AMERICAN TRAGEDY." >> WELL THE NOVELS, WHICH WE REMEMBER HIM MOST FOR TODAY, ARE "AMERICAN TRAGEDY"...
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| 01:32:43 |
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THE NAME OF CHARLES YERKES. HE WAS THE GUY IN CHICAGO WHO DEVELOPED THE STREET CAR SYSTEM. AND THE WHOLE SECOND BOOK CALLED "THE TITAN" IS SET IN...
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| 01:33:46 |
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HE WANTED TO TAKE
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| 01:33:47 |
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A NOSTALGIC TRIP HOME AND HE GOT TOGETHER WITH AN
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| 01:33:50 |
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ILLUSTRATOR BY THE NAME OF BOOTH AND THEY GOT IN A CAR TOGETHER. DRIESER DIDN'T DRIVE AND THEY GOT IN A CAR TOGETHER AND
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| 01:33:57 |
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THEY DROVE
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| 01:33:59 |
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| 01:34:00 |
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FROM
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| 01:34:01 |
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NEW YORK AND HE HITS YOUR HOME TOWN IN UPSTATE
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| 01:34:04 |
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NEW YORK. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND ALL THE WAY BACK TO HAVE A HOOSIER HOLIDAY TO EXPLORE THE PLACES HE LIVED IN INDIANA AND HE ACTUALLY WENT TO EACH...
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| 01:34:25 |
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AND EXTREMELY A GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT
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| 01:34:28 |
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WAS GOING ON IN THESE COMMUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THE BIG CITIES. HE WOULD STOP IN SMALL TOWNS AND, YOU KNOW, VILLAGES, AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE. SO IT'S...
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| 01:35:06 |
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A MARXIST? >> WHAT AN INTERESTING QUESTION. WELL, HE HAS THIS LONG PHILOSOPHY OF MONEY THAT HE USES IN THE BEGINNING OF "SISTER CARRIE" THAT MONEY SHOULD...
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| 01:35:28 |
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THAT WORKERS SHOULD BE PAID BY THE LABOR THAT THEY DO, RATHER THAN THE PRICE OF THE PRODUCT THAT THEY PRODUCE. A LOT OF P'S. SO IN THAT WAY, ONE MIGHT...
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| 01:36:40 |
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SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE BUT I REALLY DON'T PICK IT APART TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, DID HE MEAN THIS OR DID HE MEAN THAT OR DID SHE DO THIS OR THAT IN...
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| 01:37:17 |
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MUCH BETTER WAYS THAN
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| 01:37:18 |
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THE BOOKS YOU READ BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO OR YOU FEEL OBLIGATED TO IN SOME WAY. >> CHARLOTTE KOHLER FROM EVANSVILLE, INDIANA WRITES, WHILE RESEARCHING...
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| 01:37:46 |
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SEVERAL SONGS. LOUISE DRESSER, A VAUDEVILLE ACTRESS WAS A PROTEGEE OF PAUL DRESSER. MY REFERENCE FOR THESE FACTS WERE FROM THEODORE DREISER "AT THE GATES...
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| 01:38:26 |
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AUDITION AND SING SONGS FOR HIM, SOME OF HIS SONGS, AND SHE GOT TO TALKING ABOUT HER EARLY LIFE, AND SHE TOLD HIM SHE CAME FROM EVANSVILLE AND HE...
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| 01:39:31 |
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| 01:39:32 |
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BROTHER AND EDITED THE MAGAZINE THAT THE MUSIC PUBLISHING FIRM THAT PAUL BELONGED TO,
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| 01:39:45 |
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HE EDITED THAT MAGAZINE SO HE MET
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| 01:39:47 |
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ALL OF THE STARS. HE RAN AROUND WITH PAUL IN NEW YORK, ET CETERA. HE WANTED TO WRITE PLAYS FIRST. HE DIDN'T WANT TO WRITE NOVELS. HIS FIRST IDEA WAS...
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| 01:40:23 |
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A SALVATION ARMY FIGURE, A SOLDIER WHO SORT OF WENT FROM SOLDIER TO RELIGIOUSNESS. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY MENTION OF RELIGION IN A TIME WHEN AMERICA...
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| 01:41:02 |
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AND MANY FAMILIES LIKE THAT, BECAUSE
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| 01:41:06 |
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MANY -- "SISTER CARRIE" IS CERTAINLY MORAL BY CONVENTIONAL STANDARDS BUT THE CHURCH WOULD HAVE BEEN AN IMPORTANT MEETING GROUND. WHAT IS INTERESTING...
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| 01:42:16 |
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TIME WITH A VERY HEAVY SENSE OF NATIONALISM AND NATIONAL ROOTS. >> HOW WOULD YOU ANSWER THE CALLER'S QUESTION THOUGH IN TERMS OF DRIESER. WHY DO WE...
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| 01:42:41 |
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AND MR. ALTER ALSO MENTIONED A GREAT FLUX OF IMMIGRANTS COMING IN. THIS BOOK DOESN'T SEEM TO DEAL WITH IMMIGRANT, YET CHICAGO IS 80%
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| 01:42:51 |
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IMMIGRANT. BUT ONE THING I THINK WE MISS AND I WANT TO QUOTE ONE PASSAGE FROM THE NOVEL HERE, IS WHEN CARRIE IS INTRODUCED, ONE OF THE WAYS SHE IS...
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| 01:45:12 |
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A DISTANT COUSIN, HELEN RICHARDSON DRIESER. HER GRANDMOTHER AND DRIESER'S MOTHER WERE SISTERS. AND SHE LIVED WITH HIM FOR MANY YEARS, 25 YEARS, BEFORE...
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| 01:45:25 |
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MARRIED. IS THAT THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING? >> YES. AND THEN I'LL LET YOU DO IT. WHO IS TEDDY DRIESER GODDARD? >> WHY DON'T YOU ASK HER? I MEAN, SHE...
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| 01:45:48 |
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GRAND-NIECE. >> ALL RIGHT. MS. GODDARD, ARE YOU WITH US? >> YES I AM. HOW ARE YOU? >> DID I DESCRIBE
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| 01:45:53 |
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YOU? >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. WOULD YOU MIND TURNING DOWN THE VOLUME OF YOUR TELEVISION SET FOR US? >> YES. IT'S DOWN. >> OK. GREAT. WE CAN...
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| 01:46:09 |
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I HAVE A JOB THIS
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| 01:46:11 |
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MORNING. I'M WORKING. >> I'M
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| 01:46:13 |
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SORRY. I WAS HOPING TO SEE IF
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| 01:46:14 |
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WE HAD BEEN GETTING IT RIGHT. >> WELL, I HOPE SO. WE ARE TAPING IT AT
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| 01:46:19 |
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HOME. MY HUSBAND IS TAPING IT. SO THAT I CAN WATCH IT
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| 01:46:22 |
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WHEN I GOT HOME LATER THIS AFTERNOON. >> WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU TO BE RELATED TO
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| 01:46:29 |
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THEODORE DREISER? AND WHAT IS YOUR OWN DIRECT CONNECTION
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| 01:46:33 |
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WITH HIS LIFE? >> WELL, MY
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| 01:46:37 |
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DIRECT CONNECTION WITH HIS LIFE WAS THROUGH MY MOTHER, BECAUSE HE DIED IN 1945 AND I WAS AN INFANT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE HELD ME IN HIS
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| 01:46:46 |
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ARMS AND I SCREAMED CRYING AND HE SAID, TAKE HER. SHE DOESN'T LIKE ME. SO I REALLY DID NOT KNOW HIM. HOWEVER, THE LEGACY THAT THE
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| 01:46:57 |
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DRIESER FAMILY HAS IS INCREDIBLE AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I HAVE BEEN SINGING A LOT OF THE SONGS THAT HIS ELDEST BROTHER, PAUL, WROTE -- PAUL...
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| 01:47:39 |
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HIM IN THE FAMILY SETTING OUT OF WHICH HE GREW AND THE INFLUENCE IT HAD ON HIM. AND SHE WANTED TO CLARIFY THE MISINTERPRETATIONS AND OMISSIONS IN PREVIOUS...
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| 01:49:23 |
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SOCIETY'S OUTCASTS AND,
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| 01:49:25 |
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YOU KNOW, TO
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| 01:49:26 |
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SHOW AT THAT TIME WHAT
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| 01:49:28 |
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OUR WORLD WAS AND
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| 01:49:30 |
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I THINK HE WAS A WONDERFUL
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| 01:49:32 |
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WRITER. >> WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME WITH YOU, MS. GODARD BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING...
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| 01:49:57 |
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THE BANKS OF THE WABASH FOR EXAMPLE? (music) O THE MOON LIGHT IS FAIR TONIGHT (music) ALONG THE WABASH (music) (music) FROM THE FIELDS THEY COME THE BREATH...
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| 01:50:09 |
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NEW MOWN HAY (music) (music)
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| 01:50:10 |
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THROUGH THE SYCAMORES
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| 01:50:15 |
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THE CANDLE LIGHTS
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| 01:50:16 |
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ARE GLEAMING ON THE BANKS OF THE WABASH FAR AWAY (music) LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TEDI DRIESER GODARD WHO HAS JUST SUNG THE MOST FAMOUS SONG BY PAUL DRESSER,...
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| 01:50:51 |
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THEODORE DREISER FROM LANDER, WYOMING IS IT? GO AHEAD PLEASE. CALLER: YES, LANDER, WYOMING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>
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| 01:50:58 |
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YES, MA'AM. CALLER: OK. I WAS BORN IN CHICAGO.
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| 01:51:02 |
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MY FAMILY WERE IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME IN 1890. MY GRANDFATHER'S
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| 01:51:06 |
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FAMILY. THEY WERE POLISH,
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| 01:51:08 |
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CATHOLIC, LIVED DOWN ON AUGUSTA DOWN IN BACK OF THE YARDS. ONE THING I DID WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT, LATER WE MOVED UP, BEFORE 1920, THE FAMILY
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| 01:51:19 |
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MOVED UP ON PULASKI AVENUE BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS MACHINIST FACTORY WORKERS. I'VE ALWAYS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE CHICAGO HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE...
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| 01:53:12 |
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BROTHER THEODORE WHOSE SONG WAS SO BEAUTIFULLY SUNG A MOMENT AGO BY THE GRAND NIECE. I'M LOOKING AT WILLIAM WILSON'S "HISTORY OF INDIANA." HE WAS AN...
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| 01:54:15 |
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SAME TIME AND SO
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| 01:54:17 |
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THE CALLER IS -- YOU'RE CERTAINLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AND THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION IS RTION WHY IS HE SO DISOWNED BY THE HOOSIER STATE. WELL,...
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| 01:55:26 |
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STREET WHEN WE CAN ENVISION THINGS, WERE REALLY BROUGHT TO LIFE BY CARL SANDBURG WHO GAVE YOU A SIMILAR LIFE OF THE STREET LIFE OF CHICAGO. UPTON...
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| 01:55:37 |
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FROM WYOMING, AND MY HUSBAND MOVED HERE FROM WYOMING SO IT IS A REVERSE MIGRATION. THE SORTS OF -- SINCLAIR FAMOUSLY SAID HE WAS AIMING AT AMERICANS...
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| 01:57:16 |
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NEWBURY LIBRARY COLLECTIONS. TO MY RIGHT, IS A REPRESENTATIVE LETTER WRITTEN BY FLOYD DEL TO THEODORE DREISER AND ALSO AN EARLY PHOTOGRAPH OF HIM. IN...
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| 01:57:34 |
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NEW YORK POST." >> THAT'S THE ONE THAT SAYS, A REAL-LIFE AMERICAN TRAGEDY. WHAT IS THAT AD PROMOTING? >> THE AD IS PROMOTING PROMOTING THE SERIALIZATION...
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| 01:57:59 |
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MURDER WHICH REFLECTED ALMOST EXACTLY DREISER'S EARLIER WORK, AND THEY HIRED HIM TO FOLLOW THE
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| 01:58:08 |
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MURDER TRIAL AND COMPARE IT WITH HIS BOOK. >> AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT? >> ON THE OTHER SIDE I HAVE A LARGE, LONG AND COMPLICATED...
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| 01:58:32 |
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OHIO." AND THE LETTER ITSELF, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS COVERED WITH
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| 01:58:37 |
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HIS SCROLLS AND HIS CHANGES AND HIS ADDITIONS. THIS IS ACTUALLY A LETTER HE NEVER SENT, BUT IT'S
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| 01:58:45 |
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FILLED WITH HIS PHILOSOPHICAL MUSE IGS THAT
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| 01:58:51 |
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HE WANTED TO -- MUSE -- MUSINGS THAT HE WANT TO SHARE. >> AS YOU READ ABOUT DREISER, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED? >> I HAVE LEARNED THAT DREISER WAS -- SEEMED...
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| 01:59:21 |
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THEY ADMIRED NOT JUST HIS ARTISTIC WORK, BUT
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| 01:59:25 |
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ALSO HIS POLITICAL ACTIVITIES AND THEY ASKED HIM FOR ADVICE AS WELL, PARTICULARLY SHERWOOD ANDERSON. >> GO BACK TO FLOYD DELL. WHO WAS HE AND WHAT WAS...
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| 01:59:57 |
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TIMES," HE CAME TO CHICAGO IN 1908, STAYED HERE FOR A FEW YEARS, WAS THE EDITOR OF THE FRIDAY LITERARY TIMES,
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| 02:00:06 |
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A WELL THOUGHT OF PUBLICATION.
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| 02:00:11 |
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JOE: ANDD- >> AND THE WORK YOU HAVE IS IT THAT FROM HIM OR TO HIM? >> WE DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL OF ANDERSON'S AND DELL'S LETTERS BECAUSE THEY WERE SENT...
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| 02:00:37 |
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ANY ONE WORTH READING TO US ABOUT? >> YES, LET ME PULL OUT JUST A
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| 02:00:42 |
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LITTLE BIT HERE. DELL WROTE TO DREISER IN 1911 AND SAID "I HOPE YOU GOT THE 25 COPIES OF THE REVIEW
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| 02:00:51 |
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THAT I SENT. I'M ALSO SENDING YOU MRS. PEDDY'S REVIEW." MRS. PEDDY WAS
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| 02:01:01 |
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THE "TRIBUNE" LITERARY CRITIC. DREISER WROTE BACK IN THIS PARTICULAR LETTER, AS A MATTER OF FACT AND SAYS I THINK MRS. PEDDY'S POINT OF VIEW IS SOUND...
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| 02:01:56 |
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OF CHARGE. IT
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| 02:01:58 |
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FEATURES HISTORY AND THE HUMANITIES. IT HAS A VERY STRONG
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| 02:02:03 |
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CENTRAL COLLECTION, BUT IT ALSO HAS SOME PARTICULAR
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| 02:02:07 |
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AREAS OF -- OF GREATER STRENGTH, INCLUDING
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| 02:02:11 |
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ITS MATERIALS BOTH SECONDARY AND PRIMARY MATERIALS ON THE CHICAGO LITERARY RENAISSANCE ON WHICH THESE TWO MEN WERE A PART. >> DIANA HASKELL, THE CURATOR...
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| 02:02:45 |
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WITH SARAH FENTON AND TOM RIGGIO. OUR CALL IS FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. CALLER: HELLO. WONDERFUL TOPIC. I'M REALLY ENJOYING IT. MY QUESTION IS REGARDING...
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| 02:03:59 |
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WONDERFULLY TO THE. THEY BECAME GREAT FRIENDS. THERE WAS THE KIND OF CHEMISTRY WHERE LATER DREISER SAID IF HE WERE A WOMAN, I WOULD HAVE MARRIED...
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| 02:05:56 |
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SHOW PEEPLE HOW BIG THE ORIGINAL UNCUT -- PEOPLE THE UNCUT EDITION. >> IF YOU CAN SEE THE THICKNESS OF IT. IT IS THE PENNSYLVANIA EDITION WHICH WE PUBLISHED...
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| 02:06:27 |
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CARRIE." HE DID INITIALLY -- I MEAN, THERE ARE TIMES IN THE COMPOSITION OF "SISTER CARRIE" IN WHICH DREISER GOT STUCK, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, HE...
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| 02:07:33 |
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ASK YOU ABOUT A BOOK THAT I HAVE CALLED "THE PLAYS OF THE NATURAL AND THE SUPERNATURAL" PUBLISHED BACK IN 1916. IT HAS ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT PLAYS IN...
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| 02:08:18 |
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THEY'RE PLAYS TO BE READ. THEY'RE SORT OF
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| 02:08:22 |
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CLOSET DRAMA KIND OF THINGS. THE PLAYS THAT WERE PERFORMED WERE LIKE THE "HAND AND THE POTTER" AND THERE'S ANOTHER PLAY THAT I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON RIGHT...
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| 02:09:28 |
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PEOPLE, COMMENTATORS ARE TRYING TO DISSECT THE OPPOSITE PERSONALLY IN THEIR FICTIONAL WRITING. I AGREE WITH HER. I THINK IT IS UNFAIR THAT READERS WOULD...
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| 02:10:35 |
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DR. RIGGIO, BUT SARAH FENTON, CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT H.L. MENKIN AND WHO HE WAS AND WHAT ROLE HE PLAYED IN THE LIFE OF THEODORE DREISER? >> WELL, MEINKIN...
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| 02:11:13 |
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DIALECT. HE LIKED THE USE OF LITERATURE WITH DREISER. HE THOUGHT THAT MANY AMERICAN WRITERS WERE ENTHRALLED TO A EUROPEAN HERITAGE AND IT WOULD TAKE WRITERS...
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| 02:11:58 |
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DEPORTED, AGAIN, HE THOUGHT OF HER AS SOMEONE HE SAID WHO WAS NOT GIVEN A VOICE, I THINK, WAS THE LINE. SO THAT HE THOUGHT WHEN HE WROTE ABOUT HER...
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| 02:12:08 |
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TO PROVIDE HER WITH SOME KIND OF VOICE. >> WHAT WAS SHE? >> WHAT WAS SHE? >> WHY -- WHY ARE WE EVEN MENTIONING HER? >> SHE WAS THOUGHT TO REPRESENT SOME...
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| 02:12:32 |
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IT MEANT TO BE
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| 02:12:34 |
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AN AMERICAN CAME UNDER FIRE. >>
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| 02:12:36 |
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SHE WAS AN AN
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| 02:12:39 |
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ARCIST. >> MEANING? >> DREISER, IN FACT, WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO STRTED HER -- WHO SUPPORTED HER AND SUGGESTED THAT SHE WRITE HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY,...
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| 02:13:00 |
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IS NEXT.
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| 02:13:01 |
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GO AHEAD. CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE
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| 02:13:03 |
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A BACKGROUND OF THE FLAVOR OF CHICAGO THIS THOSE DAYS. IT WASN'T UNTIL THE YEAR 1900 THAT SEWAGE WAS CONDUCTED AWAY FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. UNTIL THAT TIME...
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| 02:13:20 |
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DRINKING WATER CAME, IN 1875 AS MANY AS 5% OF THE POPULATION DIED FROM WATER-BORN DISEASES. IN 1900 FINALLY A CANAL DIVERTED THE WATER AND IT WENT DOWN...
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| 02:14:03 |
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THE STREETS IN DREISER. YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET WITH SISTER CARRIE, AND WHAT YOU REMEMBER ABOUT SISTER CARRIE ARE THE INTERIORS, EVEN WHEN SHE'S WALKING...
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| 02:14:18 |
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THE PLATE-GLASS WINDOWS AND
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| 02:14:21 |
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COMMENTING INSIDE. THE THING YOU REMEMBER ABOUT CHICAGO IS WHAT FITS GERALD TALKED ABOUT, AND THE GORGEOUS SALOONS, HE'S GREAT ON INTEAR YOSS. >> OK....
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| 02:14:53 |
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THE STORY OF WHAT ALMOST
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| 02:14:55 |
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HAPPENED. >> WELL, DREISER, AFTER HE HAD FIRST SENT THE MANUSCRIPT TO HARPER'S, ANDS THAT WAS THE LETTER I REFERRED -- AND THAT WAS THE LETTER I REFERRED...
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| 02:15:19 |
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DOUBLEDAY. DOUBLEDAY WAS A NEW FIRM, THEY THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE -- A PROGRESSIVE PUBLISHING HOUSE THAT WOULD ACCEPT THIS MATERIAL. AND THERE WERE THREE...
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| 02:16:43 |
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REALISM. SO HE SOLD IT TO PAGE AND HE WAS ALWAYS SKEPTICAL ABOUT SIGNING THIS
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| 02:16:50 |
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UP. LANIAU WAS THE SON OF A ROMANTIC POET. HIS IDEA OF A NOVEL WAS AN OLD ROMANCE AND HE WAS AGAINST IT FROM THE BEGINNING. BUT THEY SAID LET'S SIGN...
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| 02:17:43 |
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SO WHERE ARE WE
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| 02:17:44 |
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HERE? OK,
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| 02:17:46 |
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DOUBLEDAY SAYS TO DREISER, WE WOULD PREFER NOT
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| 02:17:49 |
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TO PUBLISH THIS BOOK. DREISER SAYS, YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE
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| 02:17:54 |
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TO. YOU'VE MADE AN AGREEMENT. DOUBLEDAY'S ATTORNEY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY HERE, SO THEY -- THEY -- THEY -- THEY MAKE SOME...
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| 02:18:53 |
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ABOUT A QUARTER OF
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| 02:18:54 |
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AN HOUR LEFT. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. CALLER: I GREW UP OUT OF A SMALL TOWN. THERE WAS PROPERTY ATTRIBUTED
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| 02:19:08 |
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TO THEODORE DREISER. NEAR THE ROAD WHERE I LIVED THERE WAS A LITTLE HOUSE THAT WE RODE TO ON OUR BUSINESS CALS CALLING IT THE CRAZY -- BICYCLES CALLING...
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| 02:19:49 |
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OF MONEY ON "AN
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| 02:19:51 |
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AMERICAN TRAGEDY." IROKI WAS JAPANESE FOR BEAUTY. IT WAS HIS COUNTRY ESTATE. >> I THINK THE
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| 02:19:59 |
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NEXT CALL IS FROM
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| 02:20:04 |
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ARIZONA. YOU'RE ON. CALLER: WHAT REASONS WOULD THOMAS RIGGIO GIVE FOR SAYING THAT JENNY GERHARDT IS NOT A NATURALIST NOVEL. >> HELLO. >> CALLER, ARE...
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| 02:20:22 |
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YES. >> IT IS NOT A NATURALIST NOVEL. WELL, AGAIN, I THINK IF YOU WERE LISTENING EARLIER, I REALLY DON'T MAKE THESE KIND OF DISEXTINCTIONS BETWEEN...
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| 02:20:36 |
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| 02:20:38 |
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REALISM. CRITICS WHO READ IT FEEL THAT IT
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| 02:20:41 |
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BELONGS MORE TO THE
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| 02:20:42 |
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SENTIMENTAL -- THE
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| 02:20:44 |
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TRADITION OF SENTIMENTAL NOVELS THAN TO THE TRADITION OF REALISM. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, I -- I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- I THINK IT'S...
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| 02:21:23 |
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PUBLIC SPEECHES UNTIL THE 1930'S. >> WHY DO YOU -- DON'T YOU CHARACTERIZE HIM WHEN "AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY" CAME OUT. >>
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| 02:21:33 |
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WELL, JUST BEFORE "AMERICAN TRAGEDY" CAME OUT, HE WAS A STRUGGLING WRITER, HE HAD WRITTEN ALL OF THESE BOOKS, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY HAD A CIRCULATION...
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| 02:21:47 |
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THE WRITERS THEMSELVES, BUT HE NEVER MADE A LOT OF MONEY, THEY WEREN'T BESTSELLERS. WHEN HE WAS
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| 02:21:55 |
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WRITING "AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY," HE WAS IN HIS EARLY 50'S AT THAT POINT, ABOUT 54. THIS WAS A BOOK HE INVESTED A LOT OF ENERGY AND A LOT OF TIME. IT...
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| 02:23:17 |
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OF DREISER'S WRITING AND THAT THEY SHARED A COMMON BOND OF BEING FROM GERMAN AND ENDED UP GROWING QUITE FAR APART. I WONDERED IF YOUR GUEST COULD COMMENT...
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| 02:23:53 |
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MEETING. MENCKIN RESPONDED, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, RESPONDED TREMENDOUSLY TO HIS BOOKS, HE THOUGHT THAT "SISTER CARRIE" WAS A GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL, HE...
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| 02:25:20 |
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H.L. MENCKIN IS A SIGNIFICANT FIGURE AND WE'LL STOP BY IN
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| 02:25:25 |
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BALTIMORE AN SEPTEMBER 16 TO DEVOTE A COUPLE OF HOURS TO H.L. MENCKIN THROUGH WHOM WE WILL TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY. SARAH FENTON,...
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| 02:25:43 |
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BECAUSE THIS MAN DREISER WAS INVOLVED IN IT SOMEHOW. >> WELL, OTHER THAN -- LONG WITH THE SCOTTSBORROW CASE, 10 YEARS LATER, HE TRIED TO ALERT PEOPLE...
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| 02:26:11 |
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THE POWER OF A LEFTIST MOVEMENT IN THE EARLY PART OF THE CENTURY. THERE WAS A LITERARY ELITE THAT TOOK UP A SERIES OF CAUSES, DREISER WAS NOT ALONE,...
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| 02:26:28 |
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ALSO. ONE CALLER ASKED IF DREISER WAS THE ULTIMATE INDUSTRIALIST. IT WAS IN THIS WAY THAT HE TOOK UP THE INDUSTRIAL CAUSES IN A WAY THAT WRITERS BEFORE...
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| 02:27:51 |
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I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS A SELECTION CHOSEN BY SARAH FENTON FOR US. NEXT CALL IS FROM NEW YORK CITY. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. CALLER: I KNOW THAT THEODORE...
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| 02:28:59 |
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AND READ THROUGH THE FIRST FEW PAGES AND HATED IT AND PUT IT DOWN. BUT IF YOU READ THROUGH IT AND WE IDENTIFY MORE AND MORE CARRIE, AND SHE COMES TO SYMBOLIZE...
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| 02:30:00 |
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THEY LOOKED AT THINGS PHILOSOPHICALLY, LIKE ABOUT MONEY, AND THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT TODAY READERS HAVE A GREAT TASTE OR PATIENCE FOR. I HAPPEN TO...
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| 02:31:33 |
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IN A MOMENT OF FICTION FOR WRITERS, WE'RE MOVING FROM A NATION OF SMALL FARMERS TO WAGE LABORERS IN THE CITY AND HE CAPTURES THAT BY
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| 02:31:45 |
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COMBINING A VICTORIAN SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG WITH THE NEW SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG. >> AND DR. THOMAS RIGGIO, YOUR FINAL COMMENT ABOUT THEODORE DREISER?...
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| 02:32:15 |
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ONE OF THE TOP 10 IN ALL AMERICAN LITERATURE. AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN TERMS
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| 02:32:20 |
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OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE EITHER, AND I THINK -- I THINK THAT MENCKIN AND THE OTHER FOLKS WHO TALKED IN THESE TERMS WERE CORRECT. HE WILL BE READ...
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| 02:33:06 |
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PLATE. THERE IT IS ON THE SCREEN. THERE IS PART OF A
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| 02:33:12 |
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POEM. >> LET ME READ IT.
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| 02:33:14 |
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IT SAYS OH, SPACE CHANGED,
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| 02:33:16 |
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TOWARD WHICH WE RUN SO GLADLY OR WHICH WE RETREAT IN TERROR, YET THAT PROMISES TO BEAR US IN ITSELF FOREVER. OH, WHAT IS THIS THE ROAD FROM WHERE WE...
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| 02:33:33 |
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ABOUT, WHERE HE CAME FROM. NEXT TO HIM IS HIS WIFE'S GRAVE AND SHE HAS A DIFFERENT -- SAME SORT OF FLACK, BUT SHE HAS A POEM -- PLAQUE, BUT SHE HAS A...
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| 02:33:52 |
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LET ME THANK YOU BOTH AND ALSO TO THANK LONNIE BUNCH, MARTY CUSACK AND THE STAFF HERE AT THE CHICAGO NATIONAL HISTORICAL SOCIETY WHO HAS BEEN SUCH GENEROUS...
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| 02:34:08 |
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DAYS. NANCY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE CABLE SYSTEM AND OUR VIEWERS, OF COURSE, FOR YOUR CALLS AN EMAILS AND TO OUR PRODUCER PAUL BROWN,...
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| 02:35:01 |
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PAMELA,
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