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AND I'M SORRY, MR. MANNING. SO THE 17 STATES AND CITIES OR AREAS DO NOT FIT WHAT? AREN'T WE TRYING... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY IF THAT'S HOW I MADE IT SOUND. NO, THE INTENT AS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE GRANTS... |
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DID YOU TAKEuv ANY OF THE INPUT FROM THOSE 17 STATES, CITIES, COUNTIES, LOCAL FOLKS AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS... |
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NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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ISN'T THAT A PURPOSE WHILE YOU HAVE A PILOT PROGRAM? |
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AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE -- THE INTENT OF ADDING THE 17 WAS TO GET... |
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OKAY. BASIC QUESTION, TITLE OF THE HEARING TODAY, PREPAREDNESS. WHAT IS THE $29 BILLION IN HOMELAND... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE C2C HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THE TOOL. |
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YOU FORGET THE C2C, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THERE IS A FIRST STEP TOWARDS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IN WHAT IS ACTUALLY... |
| 00:35:25 |
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WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT TO THE TAXPAYERS. AND IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, SIXTH STREET, SOMEWHERE... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT IS -- WE'VE CLEARLY IMPROVED OUR LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS. WE HAVE CLEARLY IMPROVED... |
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LET ME INTERRUPT YOU 'CAUSE MY TIME IS UP. LET ME JUST ASK YOU. IF I WAS TO MEASURE YOUR PERFORMANCE,... |
| 00:38:37 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR IT. |
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YOU GOT TO HAVE A GENERAL IDEA. I KNOW YOU DO. |
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I KNOW IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE $5 MILLION RANGE, AS I UNDERSTAND. |
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FREE ADVICE FOR $5 MILLION. I THINK WE CAN DO A LITTLE BETTER. I KNOW MR. MANNING -- I DON'T MEAN... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THEN I THANK THE WITNESSES. MR. MANNING, A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO, I... |
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CERTAINLY. THE GRANTS THAT ACORN RECEIVED UNDER THE FIRE GRANT PROGRAMS WERE AWARDED -- WERE SELECTED... |
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OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. THE FEMA POLICY INTERPRETATION ON THE USE OF GRANT... |
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MR. ROGERS, THE POLICY -- FEMA'S POLICY, GPD'S POLICY ON THE LIMITATIONS OF EXPENDITURES FOR MAINTENANCE... |
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GREAT. THANK YOU. MISS CRANDALL, I'M SORRY. SURE. [INAUDIBLE] |
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IT MAKES THIS A REQUIREMENT? |
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I AM. |
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THANK YOU. |
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MISS CRANDALL, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IN YOUR TESTIMONY HOW THE LACK OF SUSTAINMENT FUNDS COULD AFFECT... |
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WE HAVE SOLVED OUR PROBLEMS IN THE COLUMBUS URBAN AREA, YES, WE HAVE. |
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GREAT, I AM SO PROUD SOMEBODY HAS FINALLY DONE THAT. THAT'S THE FIRST PERSON I'VE HAD COME BEFORE... |
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WELL, I THINK WITH MR. MANNING'S HELP WE'RE WORKING TOWARD DEFINING WHAT IS PREPAREDNESS. WE'VE TALKED... |
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SO IT'S JUST A DEFINITIONAL PROBLEM AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED? |
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I THINK SO. A LOT OF IT IS ESTABLISHING THOSE STANDARDS THAT -- SO WE CAN CLEARLY ACROSS-THE-BOARD... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I YIELD BACK. |
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THANK YOU, ROGERS. -- MR. ROGERS. AT THIS TIME I RECOGNIZE I CHAIRMAN FROM MISSISSIPPI, MR. THOMPSON.... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I FOLLOWED WITH GREAT INTEREST THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED SO FAR. MR.... |
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WELL, MAYBE I NEED TO SAY, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FINISH? I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID? AND WHAT I'M REALLY... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DO NOT INTEND TO USE IT FOR MAKING GRANT ALLOCATION DECISIONS AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY.... |
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SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR? |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, IT WAS DESIGNED TO ASSESS THE INCREASING CAPABILITY. I THINK WHAT WE'RE -- WHAT WE'RE... |
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THE TERM THAT THE COMMITTEE PROVIDED IS THAT C2C WILL PUT MEANINGFUL MEASURES IN PLACE THAT SHOW HOW... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THE SYSTEM, THE C2C SYSTEM WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT CAPABILITY INCREASES.... |
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WELL, I GUESS MY POINT IS, IS IF YOU KEEP MOVING THE BALL, CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT OUR STATE AND LOCALS... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. McCALL. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MANNING, I THINK I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU SAID C2C DOES NOT TAKE INTO... |
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WELL, I THINK -- WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN MODIFY THIS EXISTING SYSTEM TO INCORPORATE RISK, I ACTUALLY... |
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MS. CRANDALL, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT? |
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I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PIECES HERE. AT THE FEMA DHS LEVEL. THEY WERE LOOKING AT HOW... |
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AND I THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S GREAT ADVICE TO MR. MANNING. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS MONEY IN MY VIEW... |
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CERTAINLY. I THINK YOU HIT ON WHAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF THE METHODOLOGICAL PROBLEMS... |
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AND I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I SEE MY TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN. |
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THIS WAS IN THE SECOND PHASE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY NEVADA WAS CHOSEN AND I WOULD... |
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CERTAINLY. IF I MAY START WITH THE LAST QUESTION AND WORK MY WAY BACK, THE CURRENT RISK FORMULA IS... |
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THANK YOU. WOULD YOU KEEP ME UPDATED ON THE -- ON HOW NEVADA IS DOING? AND LIKE I SAID I'LL TALK TO... |
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MA'AM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE ALL OF THESE SYSTEMS AND WORK THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE... |
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IT'S JUST ONGOING. IT'S NOT TIME-CERTAIN? |
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YES, MA'AM. |
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THANK YOU. |
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AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM MISSOURI, MR. CLEAVER. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MANNING, IS THERE MAYBE AN UNSPOKEN ASSUMPTION IN THE AGENCY THAT AN... |
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YES, SIR, I THINK THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT OF HOW WE WERE IMPLEMENTING THESE GRANT PROGRAMS THEY... |
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I THINK MANY OTHERS, AND IT WAS MENTIONED THE SUBJECTIVITY HERE AND YOU HEARD IT PROBABLY MORE THAN... |
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CONGRESSMAN CLEAVER, THE SIMPLEST WAY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IS TO CONSIDER THE TWO HALVES OF THE... |
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YEAH. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS,... |
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MR. CLEAVER, I CANNOT. I THINK THAT IS THE BIGGEST FLAW TO THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED. I RECOGNIZE... |
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I AGREE. LET ME TELL YOU MY NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE IN EARMARKS. I THINK THAT'S THE... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CLEAVER. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE LADY GENTLEWOMAN FROM OHIO, MISS... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN YOU THIS MORNING. AS YOU... |
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THANK YOU. THE INTEROPERABLE COMMUNICATIONS AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST INVESTMENT... |
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THANK YOU. IT'S OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR CONCERN. AND A CONCERN THAT CAME ABOUT TAKING A LOOK AT THE REPORTS... |
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FOR THE COLUMBUS URBAN AREA WITHIN OUR AREA WORKING GROUP AS WE WORKED THROUGH C2C, WE HAD TO DO THE... |
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I WOULD SAY, MR. MANNING, THAT I AM CONCERNED THAT THE C2C IS TRYING TO BE TOO MUCH OF A ONE SIZE... |
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CERTAINLY, YES, MA'AM. IN THE ASSESSMENT OF THE LEVEL OF CAPABILITY, THAT IS ULTIMATELY TO THE GRANTEE,... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD BACK. |
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MS. KILROY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME I RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN FOR FIVE MINUTES. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MANNING, BASED UPON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY, WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION... |
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MS. RICHARDSON, I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE COST CAPABILITIES PILOT -- WHILE WE... |
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HAVE YOU SEEN THE LETTER DATED SEPTEMBER 21st TO THE SECRETARY, THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES, THE SECOND... |
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YES, MA'AM, I HAVE. |
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HOW COULD YOU SAY THIS SYSTEM WAS USEFUL? IF, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PILOT WAS TO EVALUATE... |
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MA'AM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE SYSTEM -- THE CONCERNS ADDRESSED IN MAYOR VILLARAIGOSA'S LETTER ARE VALID.... |
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YOU KNOW, I JUST GOT THROUGH WITH FLYING 24 HOURS FROM SAMOA AND I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY FRANKNESS... |
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YES, MA'AM. I AGREE THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH THE METHODOLOGY TO USE THAT SYSTEM TO... |
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AND ISN'T THAT THE POINT OF WHAT THE TOOL IS FOR? |
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THE TOOL -- THE TOOL -- YES, MA'AM. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE PILOT -- THE PILOT STUDY WAS TO... |
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SO WHY ARE YOU CONTINUING DOING IT? |
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WE'RE CONTINUING IT TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE PILOT PROGRAM AND THE ANALYSIS OF ALL THE DATA SO WE... |
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YOU DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW? |
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I AM AWARE OF ALL THE CONCERNS BUT -- THE PILOTS ARE NOT COMPLETED AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ALL THE... |
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OKAY. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COST AND THE TIME AND EVERYTHING -- HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO DO THIS... |
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MA'AM, I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON A PER-JURISDICTION BASIS ON THE PILOT -- THE EXPECTED COST... |
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OKAY. MY TIME HAS EXPIRED. WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND FROM YOUR TESTIMONY AND... |
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THANK YOU, MS. RICHARDSON. MR. MANNING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THERE'S A TSUNAMI OF CONCERNS... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN -- |
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BESIDES THE CONTRACTOR? [LAUGHTER] |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NOT -- I HAVE NOT -- TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY LETTERS IN |
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OKAY. WHO IS YOUR CUSTOMER? IF I CAN USE THAT TERM? |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, ABSOLUTELY OUR CUSTOMERS ARE THE GRANTEES THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE AMERICAN... |
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OKAY. SO IF YOUR CUSTOMERS ALONG WITH THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, OURSELVES, ARE HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT... |
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I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. |
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MR. CLEAVER, ANY KANSAS CITY THINGS? MR. KILROY, THANK YOU FOR THE BILL THAT YOU FILED. I APPRECIATE... |
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