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WELCOME TO C-SPAN TWOS AFTERWARDS THAT MY NAME IS EZRA KLEIN OF THE "WASHINGTON POST" THAT I AM HERE... |
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THEY ARE SO BAD. THEY ARE SO EMBARRASSING. STACK I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MY IDEA.... |
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OR IN THE PRESENT ACTUALLY. |
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IT IS A BIT ABOUT NOTHING AND ABOUT EVERYTHING. SO ONCE THE PROJECT? ONCE THE PROJECT OF "FREAKONOMICS."... |
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I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROJECT EXACTLY. I HAVE SPENT A LIFETIME STUDYING ECONOMICS IN MY OWN WAY.... |
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BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE ACTUAL STUDIES HERE, TWO THINGS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT... |
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ABSOLUTELY. ECONOMICS IS DIVIDED INTO BIT PARTS MACKER ECONOMIC AND MICROECONOMICS. MACRO IS NOT IS... |
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PSYCHOLOGIST RARELY, IF EVER, VENTURE OUT OF THE LAB. THE LAB IS THE PERFECT KIND OF STERILE ENVIRONMENT.... |
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SO THE OTHER BLEND OF DISCIPLINE IN THE BOOK COMES ON YOUR SIDE AS A REPORTER. THE BOOKENDS UP BEING... |
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IF YOU NOTICE THE DIVIDE THAT'S WELL, THAT'S A BAD SIGN ON OUR BEHALF. BECAUSE THEY ARE MEANT TO REALLY... |
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YEAH, I THINK IT WAS LESS TRYING TO ENGAGE IN THESE MORE POLITICAL TOPICSES, OR MORE HOT TOPICS OR... |
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THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH SINCE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THAT'S REALLY GOOD THAT IS GOOD OR WILL YIELD REALLY... |
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THERE'S A DANGER TO THIS. YOU ARE VERY WELL KNOWN FOR BEING ABLE TO REPLY WITH GREAT SKILL WITH THE... |
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I THINK A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO THE APPROACH THAT I TAKE. AND IT STRIPS AWAY A LOT OF THE -- I DON'T... |
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I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. YOU FEEL THAT HAVING BEEN VERY DEEPLY INVOLVED IN CRIME, YOU'VE... |
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NO, IT'S -- PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. SO DO I THINK THAT THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE ON CRIME... |
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YEAH, I KNOW IT'S HARD. IF IT WERE EASY -- YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHERE. YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THE NEXT... |
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THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. SURVEY SHOWED? |
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I DON'T THINK SO. THAT WAS EMPIRICAL. |
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IT'S A SURVEY. IT'S A HARD ONE. |
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WHO KNOWS WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM. I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT. |
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ONE OUT OF EVERY 140 MILES IS DRIVEN DRUNK. THAT'S SURPRISING. THEN YOU SAID THAT, THERE'S SOME 237... |
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FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU THINK THAT, THEN YOU ARE NOT READING THE BOOK. WE EXPLICITLY STATE THAT THE ... |
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BUT YOU DO HAVE FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS WALK DRUNK. LET'S STARTED BY MY OWN RESEARCH THAT WE SITE... |
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ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT YOUR QUESTION IS IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT'S... |
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SO I THINK THAT -- LET'S TAKE THE PARTICULAR POINTS THAT YOU RAISED. WHICH ARE GOOD ONES. IS IT TRUE... |
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I THINK THAT'S THE POINT. THERE ARE A THOUSAND PEOPLE EVERY YEAR OUT OF THE 13,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE... |
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WHO ARE DRUNK. |
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RIGHT. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE PARENTS OR SIBLINGS, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THIS.... |
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-- ALSO I DON'T KNOW CALIFORNIA, I NEVER LIVED IN CALIFORNIA. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT MORE OPTIONS.... |
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IF YOU HAD A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND YOU HAD TWO CHOICES, SHOULD YOU DRIVE OR WALKING? I THINK THE ANSWER... |
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RIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS MY INTERPRETATION AS WELL. I GUESS I USED IT IN A WAY THAT YOU USED IT. A... |
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YEAH, I LOOK AT THAT THE SAME WAY WITH A LOT OF THINGS. THERE IS UNCERTAINTY. IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE... |
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AGREE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE TREAT GLOBAL WARMING. THE POINT THERE... |
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WE'LL WAIT ON COMMON SENSE. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE A GREAT. WE'LL BE BACK IN A MOMENT WITH STEVEN... |
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FOR WITH STEVEN DUBNER AND STEVEN LEVITT IN JUST A MOMENT. |
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DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN VIEW BOOK TV PROGRAMS ONLINE? GO TO BOOKTV.ORG. TYPE THE NAME OF THE AUTHOR,... |
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"AFTERWORDS" CONTINUES. |
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I'M MR. KLEIN, WE ARE BACK WITH STEVEN DUBNER AND STEVEN LEVITT. BEFORE WE WENT TO BREAK WE GOT INTO... |
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ANSWER TO WHAT? YOU ARE TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE THINK. THE QUESTION WE TRY TO ANSWER IS ... |
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WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE GEOENGINEERING SOLUTIONS. HOW WOULD THEY WORK? |
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GEOENGINEERING SAY THAT USING ENGINEERING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE PLANET IS WORKING. IF YOU THINK ABOUT... |
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INTENTIONALLY. |
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WELL, INTENTIONALLY WITHOUT PURPOSE. WITHOUT THE IDEA OF MAKING THINGS BETTER EXPECT FOR OUR ECONOMY.... |
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HOW DO THEY COOL THE EARTH? |
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NO, HOW DO THEY CREATE THEM? |
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WELL, YOU CAN HAVE TURBINES UNDER WATER. IT WOULD KICK UP SALT SPRAY. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY CLOUDS... |
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AND TO MAKE THEMSELVES DENSER. THE MORE DENSE WERE GENERALLY THE MORE REFLECTIVE. THE MORE REFLECTIVE,... |
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THE DARKER COLOR TO ABSORB LOTS OF HEAT AND SUNLIGHT. THE MORE YOU ABSURD, THE MORE YOU GO OUT. |
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AND CLOUDS ARE PUFFY AND NICE AND REFLECTIVE. THEN THERE'S A RADICALLY DIFFERENT SOUNDING SOLUTION... |
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SULFUR IS NATURAL? |
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YES. WHAT WE ARE ADVOCATING IS THIS KIND OF SOLUTION BE PUT ON THE TABLE IN ADDITION TO CARBON MITIGATION... |
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I THINK THE KEY THING ABOUT THIS, EITHER OF THE TWO SCHEMES THAT DUBNER JUST DESCRIBED, PUTTING THE... |
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I THINK THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING IS TWO POSSIBLE REACTIONS. LET'S SAY THERE WAS A STRATOSPHERIC... |
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ONE THING THAT BRINGS OUT. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THIS IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL SOLUTION AMOUNT SCIENTISTS.... |
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RIGHT. |
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BUT IT'S A RISK THAT'S BIGGER TO IGNORE THESE THINGS AND WATCH THE EARTH HEAT UP, AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS... |
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IT'S JUST THE CARBON DIOXIDE. |
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EXACTLY. BUT THE COAST GOES DOWN RADICALLY. WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO MORE.... |
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DO YOU BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THINGS LIKE CAP-AND-TRADE. |
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MY VIEW AT THE CURRENT TIME THE COST IS REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE OF. I THINK IF YOU TOOK A YEAR OR... |
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I THINK THE TAKE IS GIVEN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT CLIMATE SCIENTIST HAVE ARE GENERATED. WHAT I TRY TO DO... |
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AMONG OTHER THINGS -- THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE HEW ON. THERE ARE TWO IMPLICATIONS, ECONOMIST... |
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NOT VERY MUCH. THE RISK OF WAITING FOR ONE YEAR IS SMALL. WE'VE ALREADY WAITED 50 YEARS. THE DIFFERENCE... |
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FOR THE FINAL QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO CREATE THE FREAKONOMICS ADVICE. ONE SMALL AND ONE LARGE. YOU... |
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I DON'T WANT MY DAUGHTER TO BE A PROSTITUTE. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S -- I THINK THAT'S A WEAKNESS OF... |
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I WOULD LEGALIZE PROSTITUTION. I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GO INTO... |
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AND THEN TO MOVE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL OVER TO THE MACRO. YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF CHAPTERS ABOUT HEALTH... |
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I'LL START. I MEAN I THINK NOT THAT MUCH. I THINK THAT THE DATA THAT I HAVE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ON... |
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I'LL ADD ONE THING TO THAT. ONE STORY THAT WE WRITE ABOUT IN THE BOOK IS ABOUT ONE COMMODITY THAT'S... |
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WELL, THANK YOU BOTH SO MUC I THINK FOR US, STEVEN LEVITT |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
