Google Book Search Settlement

Nov 16, 2009

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Cecilia Kang provided a primer on Google's efforts to digitize books in libraries throughout the world. The Google Book Search project was started in 2004 and within less than a year a class action suit was levied against the company for copyright infringement by the Association of American Publishers and the Author's Guild. In October 2008 the .. Read More
Cecilia Kang provided a primer on Google's efforts to digitize books in libraries throughout the world. The Google Book Search project was started in 2004 and within less than a year a class action suit was levied against the company for copyright infringement by the Association of American Publishers and the Author's Guild. In October 2008 the parties agreed to a class action settlement. However, there were several opponents to the settlement, including authors, publishers, Google's business competitors, and the Department of Justice which initiated an antitrust investigation. Ms. Kang presented details of the case and the current status of the settlement. Topics included consumer issues, business competition, copyright, and regulatory issues. Cecilia Kang is a technology reporter for the Washington Post, where she writes the "Post Tech" column.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:35 Host CECILIA KANG OF "THE WASHINGTON POST," WHAT IS THE GOEBEL BOOK SETTLEMENT?
00:00:40 Guest DE GOOGLE BOOK SETTLEMENT IS PART OF A YEARLONG LEGAL BATTLE BETWEEN GOOGLE AND PUBLISHERS AND AUTHORS...
00:02:03 Host WHAT WAS GOOGLE'S OUR ORIGINAL MOTIVE?
00:02:05 Guest THE ORIGINAL MOTIVE IS ALONG THE LINES OF THEIR MISSION, WHICH IS USERS OF THE INTERNET TO ACCESS ANY...
00:02:39 Host WAS THERE A PROFIT MOTIVE?
00:02:42 Guest CERTAINLY, AND THIS IS GETS INTERESTING. IT INTERSECTS CONSUMER USE, LEGAL CONCERNS AND REGULATORY...
00:04:58 Host AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. FIRST THE WINDED GOOGLE START THIS PROJECT, WHEN DID LAWSUITS START,...
00:05:07 Guest LET'S START FROM THE BEGINNING. GOOGLE WAS A DISTORTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING FROM WHEN GOOGLE WAS...
00:05:56 Host WHO DID THIS?
00:05:57 Guest GOOGLE STARTED SCANNING.
00:05:59 Host IN MOUNTAIN VIEW CALIFORNIA?
00:06:02 Guest EXACTLY. WITH THEIR TECHNOLOGY. AND WHAT THEY DID IS THEY WOULD -- THE PARTNERED WITH A LOT OF LIBRARIES...
00:07:09 Host AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PUBLISHERS, THE AUTHORS GUILT.
00:07:14 Guest THE TITANS OF THE PUBLISHING WORLD AND AUTHORS WORLD SAID WHAT ARE DOING? YOU CAN'T BE DOING THIS,...
00:10:54 Host OKAY, SO IF YOU GO TO THE GOOGLE BOOK SEARCH WHAT DO YOU FIND?
00:10:58 Guest YOU FIND 10 MILLION BOOKS ALREADY SCANNED.
00:11:02 Host 10 MILLION? ALL PREVIOUS TO 1923 AT THIS POINT?
00:11:08 Guest IT'S A MIX. ABOUT 2 MILLION OR BEFORE 1923. 2 MILLION OUR BOOKS THAT GOOGLE HAS CONTRACT WITH THE...
00:12:19 Host WHAT ABOUT NEW BOOKS?
00:12:20 Guest NEW BOOKS ARE IN PRINT SO THESE WILL NOT BE PART OF THE DISPUTE.
00:12:25 Host COULD SIMON SHUSTER HARPER COLLINS MEGADEAL WITH GOOGLE AND SAY YES AND HAVE PUBLISHERS STARTED DOING...
00:12:31 Guest ABSOLUTELY --
00:12:32 Host SEPARATE FROM THIS
00:12:34 Guest EXACTLY. IT IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE THAT THE AGREEMENT ONLY COVERS ABOUT 60% OF ALL OF THE BOOKS THAT...
00:13:06 Host SARAH PALIN --
00:13:07 Guest SARAH PALIN'S NEW LOOK AS WELL. GOOGLE COULD BE WORKING WITH HER PUBLISHERS, ON-LINE PUTTING A 20%...
00:13:29 Host WOULD THESE PUBLISHERS TODAY ON THE NEW BOOKS MIGHT THEY ALSO BE MAKING SIDE DEALS WITH MICROSOFT...
00:13:37 Guest ABSOLUTELY, SURE --
00:13:39 Host SO THIS WOULD NOT BE EXCLUSIVE TO GOOGLE?
00:13:42 Guest EXACTLY. IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO GOOGLE. WHAT'S HAPPENING CURRENTLY WITH BOOKS COMING OUT OR ARE IN...
00:13:56 Host ARE THOSE COPYRIGHT PROTECTED OR BOOK SEARCH?
00:14:00 Guest THEY ARE NOT COPYRIGHTED BECAUSE IT IS BEFORE 1923, BUT THEY ARE STILL IN PRINT WHICH MEANS -- WELL,...
00:14:48 Host NOT A LOT OF DEMAND?
00:14:49 Guest I'M SORRY TO SAY, DAD, A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE HAVE READ IT OR MAYBE MORE. THAT'S THE KIND OF BOOK THAT...
00:15:55 Host WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE, CECILIA KANG, OF 1923?
00:16:00 Guest I DON'T KNOW THE IMPORTANCE -- I THINK THAT MIGHT BE -- I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE BUT THAT IS BUCK...
00:16:19 Host BEFORE THAT MARK TWAIN WAS RIDING. WHERE DOES HE FALL INTO THIS GLOBAL BOOK SETTLEMENT?
00:16:25 Guest IF YOU GO TO YOUR LOCAL BOOKSTORE YOU PROBABLY SEE MAYBE PENGUIN OR I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY MAYBE SIMON...
00:17:19 Host CECILIA KANG IS THE TECHNICAL REPORTER AND WRITES A BLOG ON TECHNICAL ISSUES, AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS...
00:17:38 Guest WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS LATE LAST FRIDAY WHEN GOOGLE AND THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN THE CLASS-ACTION...
00:18:08 Host AND THAT IS DENNEY CHIN?
00:18:10 Guest THAT'S RIGHT. SO HE RECEIVED THE COMMENT FOR THE REVISED SETTLEMENT AND IT WOULD SEEM THIS REVISED...
00:20:27 Host OKAY. WHO IS ON WHAT SIDE?
00:20:29 Guest SHORT, GREAT QUESTION. THERE'S LOTS OF SLIDES, PETER. THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BECOME SUCH AN INTERESTING...
00:20:56 Host INTO THE GOOGLE CORNER.
00:20:59 Guest THE GOOGLE CORNER BECAUSE THE HALF OF IT IN PLACE THEY WANT TO BE APPROVED BY JUDGE DENNEY CHIN SO...
00:23:41 Host DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMING U.S. COPYRIGHT OFFICE, BOTH VERY ACTIVE ON THIS CASE. FROM WHAT YOU HAVE...
00:26:27 Host IS THERE A DIFFERENCE, CECILIA KANG AND HOW THE BUSH JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS TRIBUNE IS AS OPPOSED TO...
00:26:36 Guest IT WAS THE OBAMA TICKET UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.
00:26:42 Host THE BUSH?
00:26:43 Guest THE OBAMA TICKET UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. THOUGH I'M SURE DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION NEVER WATCHING...
00:29:24 Host IS THIS A CASE WHERE REGULATION IS NOT GIVEN UP ATTACK KNOWLEDGE OR TECHNO SHE IS CHANGED AND REGULATION...
00:29:33 Guest I THINK SO, ONLY IN THAT NOBODY REALLY KNEW THAT GOOGLE WAS DOING THIS. IT WAS UNLIKE -- IT WAS ACTUALLY...
00:30:47 Host WITHOUT THE CONGRESS?
00:30:48 Guest SO CONGRESS HAD A HEARING ON THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THAT'S WERE A MEMBER OF THE COPYRIGHT OFFICE...
00:32:07 Host ARE WE IN THE COMMENTS. CAN PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS?
00:32:14 Guest NOT YET. DANNY CHAN, THAT HE WAS -- WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT AS YOU OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN...
00:32:30 Guest AND ANYONE ELSE.
00:32:31 Guest AND ANYONE ELSE FOR SURE. AND THEN JUDGE DANNY CHAN IS EXPECTED IN EARLY 2010 THAT HE WILL ACTUALLY...
00:33:03 Host WHAT IS YOUR WEBSITE?
00:33:07 Guest IT'S CALLED POST-ATTACK IT UP ON THE "WASHINGTON POST" WEBSITE. WHAT EASIER IS TO GO TO VOICES."WASHINGTON...
00:33:28 Host CECILIA KANG OF THE "WASHINGTON POST."
00:33:35 Guest THANK YOU SO

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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