Mark Perry argues that it is necessary for the U.S. government to verbally engage with groups like Hezbollah and Hamas, even though they are considered to be terrorist organizations. He says that we have done so in the past and that it has led to positive outcomes.

Mr. Perry was interviewed by Larry Johnson, former CIA analyst and former deputy director in the State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism. Mr. Johnson is the founder and main author of the No Quarter weblog (noquarterusa.net/blog/).