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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY WE WILL EXAMINE HOW THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HONORS AND IMPLEMENTS... |
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THANK YOU. MADAME CHAIRWOMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO TESTIFY... |
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THANK YOU. AND NOW I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MR. MILLER, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATION... |
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THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIRWOMAN. MR. LIT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME... |
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LET ME JUST SAY TO MY RANKING MEMBER THAT -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL I WAS ABOUT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH... |
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THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR, BUT I HAVE NO OPENING STATEMENT, I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM MR. LIT FOR QUESTIONS.... |
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THANK YOU, MR. LIT. IT IS THE POLICY NOW OF THE OVERSIGHT INVESTIGATION SUBCOMMITTEE TO SWEAR ALL... |
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DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE STATEMENTS YOU WILL MAKE TO THE COMMITTEE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE... |
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LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MR. LIT ANSWERED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND NOW WE'RE READY FOR YOUR OPENING... |
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THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIRWOMAN, RANKING MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND... |
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EXACTLY. AND SO IF YOU'RE ASKED A QUESTION THAT IS BEST RESPONDED TO IN THE CLOSED SESSION, YOU'LL... |
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I THINK THE NATIONAL SECURITY ACT MAKES A DIVISION IN THE PROCEDURES AND THE STANDARDS APPROPRIATE... |
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SO THE ANSWER IN SHORT WOULD BE YES? |
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YES, AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 503. |
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WHEN ASSESSING WHETHER THE INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY IS SIGNIFICANT, WHAT FACTORS DOES THE INTELLIGENCE... |
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YES. THAT'S SPECIFIED IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY POLICY MEMORANDUM. |
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AND IF AN AGENCY DIRECTOR, SUCH AS THE NSA AND CIA DIRECTOR HAS DIRECTED OR APPROVED A PARTICULAR... |
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I THINK WHILE THAT FACTOR ISN'T SPECIFIED, IT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE OF A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT AN ELEMENT... |
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SO NOT ALONE? IF THE NSA OR CIA DIRECTOR APPROVES A PARTICULAR INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY. THAT IT'S OF... |
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I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT THAT WOULD BY ITSELF IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRE NOTIFICATION. |
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BUT IT'S CONSIDERED EVIDENCE OF SIGNIFICANCE? |
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I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE, YES, MA'AM. |
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AND OCTOBER 13th MEMO 2009. HE NOTED HE'S CONCERNED, "THAT NOT ALL ELEMENTS MAY BE TAKING THE APPROPRIATE... |
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WHEN WE WENT OUT AND CANVASSED THE ELEMENTS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. GENERALLY SPEAKING IN EACH... |
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THAT'S YOU. |
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YES, IN CIA IT'S THEIR GENERAL COUNCIL. BUT THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY RESTS WITH THE LEGISLATIVE... |
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MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE ISN'T A NAME NECESSARILY ATTACHED THAT EVERYONE IS CLEAR ABOUT. SO AT NSA,... |
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YEAH, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE NAMES, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE THINGS -- ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES... |
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I THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. |
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THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE AN S C TO BRIEF... |
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ME PERSONALLY OR IT BE AND I? |
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EITHER. |
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I THINK IN GENERAL, WHEN THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE, AND THEY HAVE NOT THEN COMMON SENSE I HAVE BEEN... |
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WHEN DID YOU START? |
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AT THE END OF JUNE THIS YEAR. |
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NEITHER HAVE BEEN COMMON OR ONE OR THE OTHER? |
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LIMITED BRIEFINGS OF ANY SORT. WHEN A DECISION IS MADE AS TO WHAT SORT OF BRIEFING IS MADE, WE HAVE... |
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I'M NOT SO SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER. MAYBE YOU COULD WALK ME THROUGH |
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WELL AT -- |
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HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED THAT YET? |
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NO, IT HAS NOT. |
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FAIR ENOUGH. |
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MY AT THE STANDING -- |
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SINCE JUNE THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY DECISION TO BRIEF MEMBERS, EVEN OF THE FULL COMMITTEE ON ANYTHING?... |
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NO, NO. MEMBERS OF THE FULL COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON NUMEROUS MATTERS. I HAVE BEEN PRESENT... |
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I'M ASKING ABOUT BOTH. |
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I'M SORRY. I HAVE LOST THE TRAIL. |
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TO WHAT EXTENT YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BRIEF MEMBERS OF THE FULL COMMITTEE OR THE GANG OF 8? |
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MOST OF THE DECISIONS ABOUT NOTIFYING A FULL COMMITTEE TO MY KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT MADE AT THE LEVEL OF... |
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WHEN YOU SAY PLAY A ROLE, ARE THERE OTHERS THAT PLAY A ROLE IN THAT? |
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IF IT IS CIA INFORMATION THAT THE CIA WOULD PLAY A ROLE. IF IT IS A COVERT ACTION, SINCE THE WHITE... |
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AS YOU KNOW, MR. LITT, THIS EXAMINATION THAT THE FULL COMMITTEE IS UNDERTAKING IS -- THE CHAIRMAN... |
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WHAT IS BROKEN IN YOUR VIEW THAT WOULD CAUSE THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE CONGRESS NOT EVER BEING INFORMED?... |
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WELL, TO THE EXTENT THE ISSUE -- ARE YOU ASKING ME ABOUT THE CIA DIRECTOR BEEN INFORMED OR CONGRESS... |
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THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY, AND LEAST IN MY VIEW, BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ON THE JOB FOR A WHILE. TO HAVE HIS... |
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IN TERMS OF INFORMING -- |
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WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BROKEN, OR DO YOU THINK ANYTHING IS BROKEN? DO YOU THINK IT IS A SPECIAL CASE... |
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WHETHER SOMETHING IS A SIGNIFICANT INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY THAT REQUIRES NOTIFICATION AND BRIEFING OF... |
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WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT? WOULD YOU DEFINE THAT? |
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IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO INVOLVE THE EXERCISE OF JUDGMENT. THE POLICY MEMORANDUM THAT WAS ISSUED IN 2006... |
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IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF FINDING OUT AT A MUCH LATER DATE AND THEN THE PARTIES THAT ARE -- THAT HAVE... |
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I THINK EACH AGENCY SHOULD HAVE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. I ALSO THINK IT'S... |
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SO FOR NOTIFICATION TODAY, HOW DOES IT WORK? DOES THE HEAD OF EACH ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES MEET WITH... |
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GENERALLY SPEAKING, EACH INDIGENCE THE AIR EACH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS OWN -- WE RECEIVED COPIES OF... |
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THEY ARE INDEPENDENT OF ANY ONE ELSE? |
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IN MOST INSTANCES, THAT IS RIGHT. EACH AGENCY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS OWN. |
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THANK YOU. MR. MILLER. |
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MR. LITT, THANKS FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND STATE COMMITMENT TO DIRECTOR BLAIR KEEPING THE COMMITTEE... |
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WELL, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL REPORT... |
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THAT IS CORRECT. I AM CONFIDENT THAT WHEN A DECISION IS MADE, THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE BRIEFED... |
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YOU DO NOT THINK ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THE DETAINEES THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS ANY JURISDICTION OVER... |
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THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING. |
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--? IN SECTION 502 REQUIRES THAT DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES NEED TO FIRST THE CONGRESSIONAL INTELLIGENCE... |
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WELL, TO THE EXTENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLECTION OF INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION THAT IS NOT SOMETHING... |
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WE WILL GO TO A CLOSED SESSION. |
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IT IS TRUE, AS I THINK WE NOTED LAST WEEK THAT THE GUANTANAMO BAY FACILITY IS A FACILITY. IT IS NOT... |
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I SIT ON THE HALF AS WELL. HAS THAT COMMITTEE BEEN |
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I DO NOT KNOW. |
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I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO. BELIEVE THAT ISSUES IT WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OPERA. VERSIONS OF INTELLIGENCE... |
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IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION INTENDS TO WORK CLOSELY WITH FEDERAL AND STATE AND... |
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WHY DO WE KEEP STATE SECRETS? |
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WE KEEP STATE SECRETS BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN MATTERS WHERE THE PROTECTION OF NATIONAL SECURITY IS... |
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DO YOU CONCUR WITH MR. SCHWARTZ OF THE CHURCHES COMMISSION STATEMENT WITH REGARD TO SHARING WIDELY... |
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I'M NOT SURE WHAT HIS STATEMENT IS. I KNEW THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION AND IN FACT BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS... |
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YOU THINK THIS IS A TRUE STATEMENT? CIA ALLIES ALL THE TIME? TO CONGRESS? |
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NO. |
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THANK YOU. I GREW UP IN A GENERATION OF WHAT IS YOUR NEED TO KNOW. FOLLOWING UP ON MR. MILLER'S STATE... |
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I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION. I KNOW THE RECORD. DOES AS WELL. HE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE WANTS TO FIND... |
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WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT IF THEY DO? |
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WELL, THERE IS A VARIETY OF CRIMINAL STATUTES. I DO NOT HAVE PENALTIES IN FRONT OF ME. |
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WITH THEY LOSE THEIR JOB OR GET SLAPPED ON THE HAND? |
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IT CAN RANGE FROM A SLAP ON THE HAND FOR SOMETHING THAT MERITS A SLAP ON THE HAND THROUGH LOSS OF... |
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WHEN MR. MILLER ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS BEEN NOTIFIED OF DETAINEES FROM... |
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I DO NOT THINK ANY FINAL DECISION HAS BEEN MADE YET ON HOW AND WHEN PEOPLE WILL BE NOTIFIED. I DO... |
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YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN AND TIME THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE. |
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I DO NOT KNOW THAT THAT DECISION HAS BEEN GATE MADE YET, MA'AM. |
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OTHER OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PRISONERS. THESE ARE NOT YOUR NORMAL PRISONERS.... |
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WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN HOLDING PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NORMAL PRISONERS. WE HOLD PEOPLE LIKE THE... |
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I APPRECIATE THAT. |
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THANK YOU. WE WILL BE GOING BACK AND FORTH NOW. |
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I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE LAST SERIES OF QUESTIONS JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY'S... |
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THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. |
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I WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OF SIGNIFICANT ANTICIPATED INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY. IS... |
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QUITE THE CONTRARY. ANTICIPATED INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES NEED TO BE MODIFIED AND BRIEF AS WELL. |
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AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CIA AND OTHER AGENCIES, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN UNDERSTANDING IN THE... |
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SO FAR AS I KNOW, THAT IS CORRECT. |
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AND HOW DO YOU INTERPRET THE TERM ANTICIPATED? YOU WOULD NOT CONCLUDE WOULD YOU THAT SOMETHING HAS... |
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I THINK THAT SOME OF THE CONTROVERSY THERE ABOUT THE USE OF THE TERM OPERATIONAL WITH REFERENCE TO... |
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YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURES MADE IN SUPPORT OF AN INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITY,... |
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I WOULD THINK IT WOULD. PART OF THE OVERSIGHT INVOLVES OVERSIGHT OF HOW FUNDS ARE SPENT. |
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IF THERE WAS RISK OF DISCLOSURE OF A POTENTIAL OPERATION VIA ARREST OR AT SOME OTHER MEANS THAT WOULD... |
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I THINK THE POLICY MEMORANDUM TALKS ABOUT A RISK OF EXPOSURE AS ONE POSSIBILITY. YOU ALSO HAVE TO... |
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WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THEN IS IF YOU ARE SITTING IN A ROOM TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL POTENTIAL DIRECTIONS... |
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IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE NATURE OF THE SPECIFIC STEPS BEING TALKED ABOUT. |
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YES. MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. |
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I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. MR. LITT, AND ATTEMPTING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON A CLASSIFIED PROGRAM... |
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I THINK THAT THERE -- THROUGHOUT THE VARIOUS AGENCIES THERE ARE RECORDS OF THAT THAT HAVE A GREATER... |
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YOU THINK THERE SHOULD? ? I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHETHER THERE... |
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WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE COMMITTEE TO KEEP BETTER RECORDS OF WHO IS IN WHAT BRIEFING AND TO... |
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AS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH I WOULD NOT PRESUME TO GIVE ADVICE TO CONGRESS ON WHAT RULES AND... |
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THAT GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING IN MY MIND A BIT. THE GENERAL PROPOSITION IN SECTION 501 IS THAT ADMINISTRATION... |
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I THINK THAT THIS AREA IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU HAVE TWO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY IS BUMPING UP AGAINST... |
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I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE WAY THIS WORKS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN AN EXECUTIVE... |
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WELL, I AM NOT GOING TO PURPORT TO LIST ALL THE OBJECTIONS BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE I COULD DO THAT RIGHT... |
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OKAY. IF I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, IF THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SHARE ALL... |
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I'M NOT ENOUGH OF A SCHOLAR ON THE EXACT LIMITS OF CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY. WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT... |
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MY TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. |
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MR. RUSH. |
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-- MR. RUSH? MR. RUSH HOLT. |
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THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE SEVERAL DIFFERENT POINTS. I... |
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WELL, I DO NOT KNOW. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE I STARTED. SINCE JUNE, I CAN SAY THAT I AM... |
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LET'S SEE. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE YOUR TITLE CORRECT. AS THE GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE OFFICE OF THE... |
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AS I SAID EARLIER, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE DIRECTOR WOULD CONSULT HIS LEGAL COUNSEL. I SUPPOSE THERE... |
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AND YOU THINK IN ANY OF THE SUB UNITS, THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY OR OTHERS, THAT THERE MIGHT... |
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THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. |
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NOW, I NOTE IN THE OCTOBER MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE TITLED THE FOLLOW UP REPORTING... |
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I THINK THAT WE DO HAVE MORE POWER THAN JUST THAT TO SUGGEST. I THINK THAT IF THEY DO HAVE THE POWER... |
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SO YOU ARE NOT -- AS A MEMBER OF THE OFFICE OF THE DEPARTMENT YOU ARE NOT SUGGESTING THERE NEEDS TO... |
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IN MY VIEW, THERE WOULD BE AUTHORITY FOR THE DIRECTOR TO ISSUE POLICY IN THIS AREA. |
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LET ME ASK YOURS AND THE DIRECTOR'S INTERPRETATION OF THE WORDING OF THE OBLIGATION TO KEEP CONGRESS... |
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I THINK THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE OBLIGATION TO KEEP THE COMMITTEES FULLY AND CURRENTLY INFORMED, THAT... |
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IT IS MORE THAN 2 PERFUNCTORILY CHECK OFF ON A LIST THAT SOME WORDS HAVE BEEN SENT TO CONGRESS? |
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IN MANY CASES IT WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT, YES. |
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IN WHAT CASES WOULD IT BE ONLY THAT? |
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IF YOU ARE BEING NOTIFIED THAT A NEW FACILITY IS BEING OPENED AT THE COST OF ACCESS MILLION DOLLARS,... |
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THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRS. |
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MR. CONWAY. |
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THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. ROBERT, WELCOME. IN YOUR TESTIMONY, WHILE I APPRECIATE HUNDRED BRIEFINGS... |
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WE DID NOT FIND ANYTHING SYSTEMIC. I THINK THAT WHEN SOME OF THE AGENCIES WENT BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR... |
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2005, 100-THREE. IN YOUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO NOT BEING IN FAVOR OF A BLANKET POLICY... |
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I THINK THE WAY YOU ARTICULATE IT IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS, WHICH IS THAT THE 2005, 100-38 DOES... |
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THEY ARE THE EXACT DEFINITIONS USED IN A R 72 AND POLICY 1-33? WITH THOSE HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN FOR... |
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NOT ALL AGENCIES HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL POLICIES. I THINK THE CIA AND NSA FOR EXAMPLE, ON THEIR... |
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CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD BE RESOLVED WITH THIS POLICY? |
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THAT IS RIGHT. THE POLICY TRUMPS THAT. |
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LOOKING FOR THIS, POINT OF CONTACT OF HAVING ONLY ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE OF THE THEN THE DIRECTOR... |
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NO. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE, ALTHOUGH IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE CIA THEY... |
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IT SHOULD BE THE HEAD OF THE AGENCIES THAT FOCUSED. |
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THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY HAS A LOT OF THINGS TO FOCUS ON. ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE MENTIONED... |
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SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. SHOULD THERE BE MORE TEETH IN A STATEMENT THAT I WILL CIRCLE ... |
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I THINK THAT IS IMPLICIT. |
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WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AS TO HOW HE DID CIRCLE BACK AGAINST HIS OWN BEST PRACTICES... |
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THANK YOU. IF WE COULD DO ANOTHER BRIEF ROUND AND GO INTO, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS,... |
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WELL, I THINK EARLY ON IN YOUR QUESTION YOU PUT YOUR FINGER ON WHAT I THOUGHT THE MOST IMPORTANT SOLUTION... |
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WHERE DOES THE BUCK STOP? MR. CONWAY RAISED THAT ISSUE ABOUT ALLEGED AFFAIRS. IF THEY ARE NOT HIM... |
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ULTIMATELY, IF YOU HAVE AN AGENCY WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, THE ONLY WAY -- NEW MATTER WHO... |
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I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHAT MR. HOLT RAISED THE IDEA OF ENCOURAGING IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR CULTURE CHANGE.... |
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I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT IN THE COURSE OF GETTING READY FOR THIS HEARING AND DISCUSSIONS I HAD HAD... |
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THANK YOU. I HAVE AN APPRECIATION FOR TRAINING PROGRAMS AND PEOPLE AT THE VARIETY OF DESKS AND LOU... |
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GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE POLICY MEMORANDUM ISSUED APPLIES ACROSS THE INTELLIGENCE... |
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IS IT GENERALLY? ARE THERE EXCEPTIONS? TWO NO. |
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THE STANDARD IS ALL THE SAME AND THE STAMP SAME MEMORANDUM IS FOR ALL AGENCIES? |
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AS I SAID, AT THAT LEVEL OF GENERALITY, THAT MEMORANDUM APPLIES ACROSS TO ALL AGENCIES. AGENCIES ARE... |
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THIS IS ALL RELATIVE TO INFORMING CONGRESS? |
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YES. |
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I THINK WE NEED TO SEE ALL OF THAT. NOT JUST -- I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE INTERPRETATIONS ARE.... |
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MR. MILLER. |
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MR. [ LAUGHTER ] -- LITT, YOU SAID YOU WERE FROM -- WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU NOT TELL CONGRESS HOW TO... |
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I'M GETTING OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE. I AM ON A LEGAL INTERPRETATION, I THINK MY VIEW ON THIS IS THAT... |
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I AGREE. I THINK, GIVEN THIS RESPECT, CONGRESS AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO ... |
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ULTIMATELY, THE PRESIDENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE NATIONAL SECURITY APPARATUS. I THINK A GREAT... |
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WE HAVE JUST ESTABLISHED THAT. AS A RESULT OF CONSULTATION AND COOPERATION BETWEEN THE BRANCHES ON... |
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I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD APPROACH THE CONSULTATION AND NOTIFICATION PROCESS IN THE SPIRIT... |
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IF FOLLOW A QUESTION TO MR. SHIFT'S EARLIER ROUND OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WOULD TRIGGER A NOTIFICATION.... |
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I THINK YOUR QUESTION HIGHLIGHTS WHY I KEEP SAYING THIS IS A MATTER OF JUDGMENT. OBVIOUSLY, A SIGNIFICANT... |
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I DO NOT THINK YOU CAN EITHER, AND I THINK THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THE DISCUSSION WE ARE HAVING... |
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I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY SUCH FINDING. |
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IT QUICK FOLLOW-UP. YOU'RE NOT AWARE BECAUSE YOU ARE NEW? YOU ARE NOT AWARE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT... |
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I CONSIDER MYSELF EVEN THOUGH I AM NEW ON THE JOB TO BE REASONABLY INFORMED. |
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EXACTLY. |
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I AM NOT AWARE AS RANKING MEMBER MILLER PUT THE QUESTION. I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD MEET... |
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NO. I SUPPOSE THERE IS SOMETHING OUT THERE, SOME INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTS OUT THERE. IN PREPARATION... |
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THANK YOU. |
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THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WHEN I WAS ASKING BEFORE ABOUT THE LEAKING OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.... |
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YOU CAN INFORM THE WHOLE |
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MR. HOLT. |
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AND YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST A VERY BRIEF PREAMBLE. YOU SHOULD WANT THIS. EVERYBODY IN THE INTELLIGENCE... |
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IT HADN'T TAKEN PLACE THAT I'M AWARE OF AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLANS TO DO IT IN RESPONSE TO YOUR... |
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LET ME JUST JUMP IN THERE AND -- IN KEEPING WITH MY EARLIER COMMENT, I WOULD URGE THE DIRECTOR, MOST... |
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I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT DIRECTOR BLAIR SHARES YOUR VIEWS OF THE IMPORTANCE... |
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MADAM CHAIR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MR. HOLT JUST SAID REFRESHED MY RECOLLECTION ON SOMETHING. ... |
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THANK YOU. MR. LITT, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE NATIONAL SECURITY ACT OF 1947 AND THOSE PROVISIONS WE'RE... |
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AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THAT. THERE WILL BE JUDGMENT. BUT I GUESS IF I COULD ASK YOU, DO YOU... |
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I THINK THAT IN MY VIEW, THE BETTER APPROACH AS I SAID, IS IN REFOCUSING THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY... |
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IF YOU READ THE STATUTE, IT PROVIDES FOR GANG OF EIGHT LIMITED ANY INFORMATION PROCEDURES FOR COVERT... |
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WELL, I THINK THAT THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH READS THE PREAMBLE LANGUAGE OF SECTION 502 WHICH REFERS TO... |
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YEAH. BUT THAT'S HELPFUL TO ME. THERE IS THAT PROVISION THAT SAYS TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY TO PROTECT... |
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AS I SAID, I THINK THAT THE -- OUR VIEW IS THAT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE DISCRETION ON WHETHER TO BRIEF.... |
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I'LL JUST SAY, A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS SOME BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT OF A CHANGE IN THE STATUTE THAT WOULD... |
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MR. CONWAY? |
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THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED THE BLANK SHAKE. I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE BUREAU OF PRISONS WHEREVER... |
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MY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT CASE IS DERIVED FROM READING NEWSPAPER REPORTS AND THE CASE REPORTS. I CAN'T... |
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WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THAT MORE PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO THE DETAINEES IN THE UNITED STATES IS LESS... |
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I'M NOT SURE THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THEM HERE |
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OKAY. AND THAT'S BASED ON -- |
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WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S THE -- |
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THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION. THE REAL ISSUE ABOUT BRINGING THOSE FOLKS ON GUISE SOIL IS FEDERAL JUDGES... |
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AT THIS POINT, WE'LL RECESS THE COMMITTEE AND CLOSE THE OPEN SESSION AND RECONVENE IN OUR REGULAR... |
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