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JOHN DREW SHIRE ARGUES THAT IF CONSERVATIVES HAD NOT LOST THEIR TRADITIONALLY GLOOMY OUTLOOK DURING... |
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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANKS FOR SHOWING UP HERE THIS EVENING. IM JOHN DERBYSHIRE. ... |
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I AM A FAN OF RONALD REAGAN WITH QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU WILL FIND IN THE TEXT OF THE MANSION AS WE... |
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ONE MONTH. |
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ONE MONTH? IT ONLY TOOK THE GOOD LORD SIX-- TO MAKE THE WHOLE WORLD. |
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YES. JUST LOOK AT IT. THAT IS MY LITTLE LOOK AT THE WORLD. I HAVE ONE SECTION ON ASIA AND AFRICA... |
| 00:11:58 |
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LET ME ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION AT THIS POINT , THAT OBVIOUS PARADOX THAT YOUR BOOK SEEMS TO RAISE... |
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YOU CAN TAKE THIS BOOK ACTS THE LIGHT LEVEL AS BEING A CALL TO LOWER EXPECTATIONS. IF YOU EXPECT... |
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KNOW PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. |
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YOU REFER TO CALVIN COOLIDGE. I JUST WONDER WHAT YOU ARE POINTING TOWARD AS THE CORRECT FORM OF CONSERVATISM... |
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YES. YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH WITH THE WORLD AND YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK. HARDING IS A GREAT PRESIDENT.... |
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WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THE MIDDLE CLASS? YOU MENTIONED THEM BEFORE IT IS ALWAYS MY BELIEVE THERE... |
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WHAT IS MY POSITION ON THE MIDDLE CLASS? I THINK THE PROSPECTS ARE NOT GOOD. RATHER THAN JUST THINK... |
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BEVERAGE TAKE FURTHER AND SUGGEST YOUR HERO, REAGAN IS LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT HAPPENING WHEN... |
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LET'S SHARE RESPONSIBILITY. WE ALSO HAVE HAD SOME DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND THEIR PROGRESS OF... |
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IF YOU COULD PERHAPS ELABORATE WITH THE REAGAN PESSIMISM I THINK OF COLD WAR, WE LOSE, A SHINING CITY... |
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A VIGGO BACK TO WHAT I SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT ITS BEING FOR EVERYBODY ANYBODY CAN BE PESSIMISTIC.... |
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I WOULD LIKE YOUR TAKE ON THE FACT ANY TYPE OF DIALOGUE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE READILY POSSIBLE WITH... |
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YES. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. I DO AGREE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SLIDE IN THE CIVILITY OF POLITICAL DISCOURSE.... |
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I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE NOW I FEEL LIKE I AM REDEDICATREDEDICATE MYSELF TO LIBERALISM AFTER READING... |
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I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALAN FOR DOING THIS. IT'S EXTREMELY DECENT OF HIM. |
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I AM DOING IT OUT OF JEWISH GUILT. JOHN OFTEN DOES MY RATED SHOW IN REDBOOK ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND... |
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UNFORTUNATELY IT DID. HERE WE ARE. |
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I HAVE A FRIEND, PAUL GOTTFRIED, WHO AS A MINOR FIGURE IN CONSERVATIVE WRITING. HE WRITES INTELLECTUAL... |
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MY PLEASURE. YOU KNOW THE PRESSURE GOT ON THE INTERNET-BASED ENDING ON MY RADIO SHOW THE OTHER NIGHT?... |
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THERE IS NO BAD PUBLICITY. |
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AND THEY SPELLED YOUR NAME RIGHT. THE IDEA THAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER,... |
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WELL, THAT WOULD BE A YES OR NO QUESTION. [LAUGHTER] |
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ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE IT IN THAT SPIRIT. BUT LOOK, FEMALE SUFFRAGE, I THINK I CAN TRUTHFULLY SAY... |
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WHEN YOU WRITE A BOOK IN ONE OF THE HEADLINES IS THE CASE AGAINST IT, I WOULD GET YOU HAVE AN OPINION.... |
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IT'S NOT A THING YOU HAVE AN OPINION BUT IT'S LIKE HAVING AN OPINION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD BRING BACK... |
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WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN HE WROTE THAT? |
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I WAS MAKING THE POINT AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE CHAPTER ON MAC. WOMEN ARE MORE INCLINED TO SOCIALISM... |
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THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SMARTER THAN WE ARE. |
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AND THEREFORE, THAT FEMINIZATION OF SOCIETY WOULD BE BAD FOR CONSERVATIVES. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT... |
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YOU ARE MORE SPECIFIC TO ME. YOU SAID YESTERDAY WAS BASICALLY AS SIMPLE AS THAT. |
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ISN'T THAT WHAT I JUST HAD? |
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YOU SAID A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER THERE, BUT -- |
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THERE IS ACTUALLY A CONTRARY CASE ALTHOUGH IT IS MUCH TOO COMPENSATED FOR THE LIBERALS. |
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TALK SLOWLY. [LAUGHTER] |
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IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WOMEN VOTED PREFERENTIALLY REPUBLICAN OFF TO I THINK IT WAS 1964. THERE... |
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I WAS STUDYING THAT ON MY WAY OVER HERE. YOU SAY, THIS IS ACTUALLY DEEPER IN THE BOOK, USUALLY UP... |
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YES. |
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THAT IS SICKENING. SAT. IT IS HORRIFYING. |
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NO. WHILE I AM NOT HORRIFIED BY IT. LET ME TELL YOU, I AM AN INTEREST IN. I HAVE WRITTEN A COUPLE... |
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AND THAT LOOK SCARES ME. ARE YOU RAISING YOUR KIDS TO BE DEPRESSIVES? |
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YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT A. I HOPE I'M RAISING ABOUT LOW EXPECTATIONS OF THEIR FELLOW... |
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THAT'S VERY EXCITING. YOU ALSO SAY, I'M SKIPPING AROUND YOU BECAUSE TIME IS LIMITED. YOU MENTIONED... |
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I THINK IT MIGHT WORK. I'M NOT TENTATIVE ABOUT IT. |
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WOULD THAT CREATE A DUMBER SOCIETY? |
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I'M GOING TO STRAIN THE IMPULSE TO SAY HOW GOOD IT. BUT NO, NOT NECESSARILY. IT WOULD NOT MISS RE-CREATE... |
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AND PUBLICLY FUNDED EDUCATION. BUT FOR A MARKETPLACE FOR EDUCATION FOR AS MUCH AS PEOPLE |
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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE KIDS TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL? |
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NO. |
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MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ALPHABET, YOU ARE FINISHED. |
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I THINK IT COULD WORK. |
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WE ARE DOOMED. WE REALLY ARE DOOMED. DO YOU HAVE ANY LIBERAL POINTS OF VIEW OF? |
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I HAVE A FEW ON THINGS LIKE WEALTH AND THE QUALITY. I THINK YOU CAN HAVE TOO MUCH WEALTH IN THE QUALITY.... |
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IMMIGRATION, ANOTHER CHAPTER OF IMMIGRATION. INVADING THE WORLD. YOU HAVE A CHAPTER AND YOU SAY THERE... |
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I THINK PROBABLY WHERE YOU AND I, THE CORE POINT YOU WERE YOU AND I WOULD DISAGREE IS ON POPULATION... |
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THE IMMIGRATION CHAPTER STARTS ON -- |
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ONE HUNDRED NINETY-NINE. I WOULD JUST READ YOU. JUST CHECKING THE HANDY WIKIPEDIA LIST OF NOBEL PRIZE... |
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YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ARE NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS, AND SIMPLER TO USE THAT AS THE... |
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PROBABLY. AGAIN, TO THE FIRST POINT, I AM REFUTING A POINT, I AM REFUTING HIS POINT. I AM NOT PULLING... |
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I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU ARE RACIST. I AM SUGGESTING THIS MINDSET. |
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BY ALL MEANS, YES. I CAN ONLY SAY AGAIN I AM IN PUREST. I TRY TO MAKE PROPER DEDUCTIONS ON THE FACTS... |
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I KNOW WHAT FALSE IS, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, HAVING WOMEN VOTE I WOULD THINK WOULD BE GOOD... |
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WHELDON, WE'LL HAVE TO DISAGREE ABOUT THAT. I HAVE RESTED MY CASE IN THAT CHAPTER. |
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AND I AM REOPENING IT. |
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PEOPLE CAN READ IT FOR THEMSELVES. THAT FEMALE SUFFRAGE WAS BAD FOR CONSERVATISM, AND THAT WE NEED... |
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SPEAKING OF WHICH, YOU SAY THERE IS NO PROSPECT OF ANY REAL RELIABLE CONSERVATISM IN THE FORESEEABLE... |
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OH, GOODNESS. SOME RATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAWS. TIGHTLY RESTRICTING NUMBERS. AND GIVING PREFERENCE TO... |
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WHO DESERVES THAT? WHO DETERMINES WHO CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THE COUNTRY SPEAK WHAT YOU LOOK AT THEIR... |
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ANY OTHER LEGISLATION? |
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WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE UNITED NATIONS BUILDING TIPPED INTO THE STRIPPER. |
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THAT'S HORRIBLE. |
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AND UNDERGROUND, THE GROUND PLOWED UNDER. |
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THIS IS TYPICAL CONSERVATIVE RHETORIC IGNORING ALL THE GOOD THINGS THE UN DOES. |
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I HAVE AT LEAST ONE ALLY IN THIS. IF YOU WATCHED MULL MARKET OFF A SPEECH AT THE UN THE OTHER DAY,... |
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SO YOU END MUAMMAR. |
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ME IN MOAMMAR QADDAFI. |
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IT HAS RIVERVIEW, SO THAT'S VERY NICE TO. THE COUNTRIES GOTTEN AWAY FROM YOU. MY FINAL POINT IS THIS.... |
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POSSIBLY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK IS TRUE. AND HOPE THAT IT WILL PLANT SEEDS.... |
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THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, I SHALL NOT INSULT RUSH LIMBAUGH I THINK IS THE NUMBER... |
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I FOUND THAT OUT THE OTHER DAY. |
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AND ANYBODY, ANY LEGISLATOR WHO EVER DOES INSULT RUSH LIMBAUGH WITHIN 24 HOURS BACKS OFF WHEN RUSH... |
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I SHOULD SAY ACTUALLY THAT THERE IS A CASE FOR RUSH LIMBAUGH. THERE IS A CASE THAT IT'S NOT MY CASE,... |
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I THINK THIS DOES MY SITE VERY GOOD. I WANT EVERYBODY SHOULD READ THIS BOOK THAT LIBERALS SHOULD ... |
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FROM YOUR MOUTH TO GOD'S EAR, ALAN. |
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YOU SAY IN THE BEGINNING THIS BOOK AND YOU SAID EARLIER AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR SPEECH. THIS BOOK... |
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THAT IS SOCIALISM, THE POST SERVERS. |
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IT ACTUALLY IS. [INAUDIBLE] |
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I'M SORRY? [INAUDIBLE] |
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AND THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT. BLOW THEM UP AND THEY PUT A FIRE IN YOUR HOUSE. THAT'S SOCIALISM FOR. |
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WELL, THAT'S A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTED, NOT A PROFESSIONAL ONE. |
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ANY THING ELSE YOU WANT TO |
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LET ME SEE. HOLD ON. WE HAD A, DIDN'T WE? THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT. WHAT ABOUT RELIGION?... |
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YOU GO ABOUT THIS IN YOUR BOOK IS THAT YOU CLEARLY STATE THAT YOU HAVE KIND OF FALLEN AWAY FROM RELIGION... |
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I THINK AND I SAID IN MY BOOK THAT RELIGION IS NANNETTE PROBABLY A GOOD THING FOR CONSERVATISM. RELIGIOUS... |
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WHY DID YOU LOSE YOURS? |
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LOOKING BACK I THINK I WAS ALWAYS SOMEWHAT AGAINST THE GRAIN. I BELIEVE IN EVIDENCE AND DATA, BUT... |
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THAT DEPEND ON THE RELIGION. THERE ARE ALL AUTHORITARIANISM RELIGIONS SPEC I TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT... |
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I SAY AGAIN, I'M SORRY TO REPEAT MYSELF, WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE SOCIAL ORDER IS PEOPLE ORGANIZE THEMSELVES... |
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YOU HAVE A VERY INTERESTING PIECE IN THE BOOK TALKING ABOUT STICKING WITH THE FACTS. THEY HAVE MUCH... |
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YES. |
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WHICH I FIND FASCINATING. BECAUSE WE THINK CONVERSE TO THAT. THAT IS COUNTER INTUITIVE. |
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I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS. I THINK HE WALKED UP TO SOME INDUSTRY GETS IT WHERE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE... |
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IS MORE OF A VOTING BLOC THAN ANYTHING ELSE, REALLY REPRESENTS REPRESENTS, THEY REPRESENT, STAND UP... |
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YES, BUT THAT'S WHAT POLITICAL PARTY DO. WHAT WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO? IF THERE WAS A LARGE BODY OF PEOPLE... |
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SO THEY MAY EMBRACE RELIGION MORE AS A MEANS TO EMPOWER TO GET ELECTED AND THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE... |
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BUT AT LEAST THEY PAY THEIR TAXES. AND THAT IS A PATRIOTIC THING TO DO ISN'T? |
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IT CERTAINLY IS. ALLEN HAS A GOOD POINT. AGAIN IT IS A POINT I MAKE IN THE BOOK THAT THERE IS AN ... |
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I LOVE THIS LINE. I THINK. IN THE BOOK I'D DISLIKE MODERN LIBERALS AND VERY MUCH INTO IT TO BE POISONOUS... |
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BUT AT LEAST IT'S ELOQUENTLY EXPRESS. IT'S NOT GOING BACK. [LAUGHTER] |
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BUT YOU SAY YOU'RE MORE AT EASE IN A ROOM OF NEW YORK LIBERALS IN THE WAY TO BE TRUTHFUL. |
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YES. THAT IS A PART OF THE BOOKWORM TALK ABOUT WHAT I CALL METROPOLITANS. METROPOLITAN CONSERVATIVES.... |
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YES. GOOD LUCK TO THEM. THAT'S THE SOLID FOUNDATION AND LONG MAY IT INTO HER. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER... |
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ARE YOU PACKING RIGHT NOW? |
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NO, I HAVE NO HEAT ON ME RIGHT NOW. AND IN MY CASE DON'T EVEN GO TO CHURCH. AND THEY WRITE CONSERVATIVE... |
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DO YOU WANT TO BE THE EDUCATION? |
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WE DID. HOW ABOUT DIVERSITY? |
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YOU HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH DIVERSITY. YOU DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT -- WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH ... |
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WELL, I LET PROFESSOR ROBERT PUTNAM SPEAK. THIS IS A HARVARD PROFESSOR OF SOCIOLOGY. AND HE DID A SURVEY... |
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YOU SAY IN FACT IN THIS DIVERSITY CHAPTER, AN EARLY CHAPTER IN A BOOK, THE AMERICA OF THOSE AWFUL CONSTITUTIONAL... |
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FIRST OF ALL I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THE WORDS YOU JUST QUOTED ARE NOT MY WORDS. |
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ANGLO PROTESTANT. |
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THEY ARE THE WORDS OF PROFESSOR SAYING THE HUNTINGTON. |
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BUT YOU ARE UNDERSCORING THEM AS IF THIS IS YOUR OWN POSITION. |
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THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. |
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AGAINST. |
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SO WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF TO STAY CHRISTIAN IN WHITE? |
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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHRISTIAN. PROBABLY, YES. PROBABLY WE WOULD. |
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WOULD YOU -- |
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BUT, YOU'RE GETTING AHEAD OF THE ARGUMENT THEY'RE. STAY WHITE. WE ARE NOT WHITE. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN... |
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YOU SAY WE WERE DIVERSE. I DO NOT AVERSE TO PILGRIMS WERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW DIVERSITY WAS IN 18th... |
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AS I JUST EXPLAINED TO YOU, ALAN, THIS IS NOT A WHITE COUNTRY. AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. I ACTUALLY... |
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AS LONG AS THE BLACK POPULATION STAYS BELOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WE CAN COPE? |
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YES, I THINK THAT IS TRUE. YES. I THINK WE CAN GET ON WITH EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW, AMERICAN, BLACK AMERICANS... |
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WHEN YOU SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID COMBINED WITH RECORDING IN THE BOOK WHERE ABANDONED ANAL AMERICAN... |
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I CAN'T HELP THAT IF YOU THINK IT. I AM NOT A WHITE SEPARATIST. EVERYTHING I'VE EVER WRITTEN IS ON... |
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I CAN HELP IF YOU THINK THAT. THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION AND THAT IS NOT MY VIEW. I DON'T THINK A FAIR-MINDED... |
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I DIDN'T SAY WAS YOUR VIEW. I SAID WHEN YOU START ARGUED FOR AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE BLACK POPULATION... |
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IT WILL IN TIME BECOME A GROUP WITH DIFFERENT CULTURES ESPOUSE AND DISTINCTIVE POLITICAL VALUES AND... |
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PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT I SAID THAT. |
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I SAID AS YOU POINTED OUT, AS YOU QUOTED IN YOUR BOOK WHICH YOU ARE USING TO BUTTRESS YOUR ARGUMENT.... |
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THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT LOOK AROUND YOU, ALAN. NIDDM EVENT IN MY BOOK. AND PROFESSOR ROBERT PUTNAM GIVES... |
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AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOOMED. |
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THAT IS ONE REASON WE ARE DOOMED. |
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THAT'S WHAT I GOT. DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? |
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I SHOULD SAY BY THE WAY THAT MY CHAPTERS NINE, 10, 11 OF 12 FROM THE SUBTITLES ARE INVADING THE WORLD.... |
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I LOVE THAT LOOK YOU GET SOMETIMES. SPEC WELL, I AM KICKING AGAINST THE WHOLE CULTURE HERE. NOT ONLY.... |
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YOU ARE TAKING AGAINST CONSERVATISM AND THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO WHERE IT WAS WHEN BARACK... |
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I GUESS I AM, YES. |
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ALAN AWAY FROM HIS RADIO SHOW FOR TOO ... |
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I HAD TO LEAVE SHORTLY. |
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WE CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I THINK AND THEN ALAN NEEDS TO GET BACK. |
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WOULD YOU BE MORE SYMPATHETIC TO MR. DERBYSHIRE'S OBSERVATIONS ABOUT HOW MAYBE THE WORLD WOULD BE... |
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I DO RECALL WHAT HAPPENED. IT'S FUNNY WHEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER REFERENDUM IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH WAS TO... |
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YES, THEY WERE ANTI-GAY. NO ARGUMENT THERE. |
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I THINK IT VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION. |
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AND TO PARTICULAR GROUPS OF, ONE OF THEM BEING MORMONS AND THE OTHER WAS BEING AFRICAN AMERICANS.... |
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I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT I WOULD JUST THAT WOULD NOT PASS CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER. |
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BUT YOU WOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS. AND I THINK -- |
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I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A GLOBAL STATEMENT ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND MORMONS VOTING BASE OF ONE PROPOSITION... |
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ONE EXAMPLE. STOMACH I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE A STREIT OBJECTION TO ALLEN'S ASSERTION THAT HOMOSEXUAL... |
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WHY NOT? |
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AND THEN SUDDENLY WE SHOULD DISCOVER THAT IT IS A BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS, SEEMS TO ME, WHAT'S THE WORD?... |
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THAT'S CALLED PROGRESS. |
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I WOULD SUGGEST IF ROE v. WADE WERE OVERTURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT, A LOT OF THE FUNDING FROM THE... |
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AND KEEP THE GATE BY GOING TO. |
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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TO. IF YOU REPEAL ROE v. WADE, THEN IT WOULD ALL BE A MATTER FOR THE STATES.... |
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WITH WOMEN'S SELF ABORTING AND BLEEDING TO DEATH IN ABORTION BILLS AND BUTCHERS AND WOMEN OF MEANS... |
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THIS IS ANOTHER AREA ON WHICH I AM A BIT ON THE RESERVATION. I GUESS FUNDAMENTALLY I DON'T REALLY... |
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THE LAST FEW MINUTES WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ABORTION AND GAY RIGHTS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MUCH OF THE... |
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YES. I AGREED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CERTAIN, BUT THEN OF COURSE ALAN IS GOING TO SAY, 50 YEARS AGO... |
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DOESN'T THAT DEPEND ON HOW YOU DEFINE MORALITY, WHAT IS MORAL AND WHAT IS IMMORAL? |
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GOING BACK TO WHAT WE JUST TOUCH ON YOU COULD SAY IT IS IMMORAL THAT GAYS CAN'T GET MARRIED THAT IT... |
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WASN'T THE GUY CARRYING THE GUN A BLACK EYE? |
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YEAH, I DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T. THAT MAKES IT BETTER. |
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BETTER FOR ME. |
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WHY BETTER FOR YOU? |
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BECAUSE THEN HE IS PROBABLY A DEMOCRAT. |
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ISN'T THAT STEREOTYPING IS HE IS BLACK. HE IS DEMOCRAT. IS A BLACK GUY. SMACK BLACK AMERICANS VOTED... |
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YES. |
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ANYBODY ELSE? |
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IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTION, I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH. |
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WE HAVE A QUESTION OVER HERE. THANK YOU. |
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JUST ON A LIGHTER NOTE, JUST WANTED TO KNOW, COULD YOU DESCRIBE FOR US THE EXPERIENCE OF YOUR THANKSGIVING... |
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I AM MARRIED TO A WOMAN WHO IS A PROFESSOR AT RUTGERS WHOSE SISTER INTRODUCED US. HER SISTER IS A... |
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SHE INTRODUCED ME TO HER SISTER. LITTLE DID SHE THINK WE WOULD GET MARRIED, WHICH WE OF COURSE SINCE... |
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I HAVE HAD DINNER WITH MONICA AND SHE HAS A TERRIFIC MIX OF STORIES. SHE WAS SORT OF WITH NIXON FOR... |
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POLITICS MAKES STRANGE BEDFELLOWS, LITERALLY. MY WIFE IS A CLINTON DEMOCRAT. |
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SO YOU MARRIED UP? [LAUGHTER] |
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AND I AM IS A AM REAGAN CONSERVATIVE. AND WHEN VOTING DAY COMES WHEN WE SIT THERE AND LOOK AT EACH... |
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THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR HAVING ME. |
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ALAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
