Kennedy and the Berlin Wall

Oct 1, 2009

Wilson (Woodrow) International Center for Scholars | Cold War International History Project

W.R. Smyser talked about his book Kennedy and the Berlin Wall: A Hell of a Lot Better than a War (Rowman & Littlefield Publishers; August 28, 2009). In his book Mr. Smyser, former U.S. diplomat to Germany, recounts the Berlin crisis of 1961-1963. Mr. Smyser was a special assistant to General Lucius Clay, President Kennedy's representative .. Read More
W.R. Smyser talked about his book Kennedy and the Berlin Wall: A Hell of a Lot Better than a War (Rowman & Littlefield Publishers; August 28, 2009). In his book Mr. Smyser, former U.S. diplomat to Germany, recounts the Berlin crisis of 1961-1963. Mr. Smyser was a special assistant to General Lucius Clay, President Kennedy's representative in Berlin during the crisis when the wall was first built. He recounts the meetings between President Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, the threat of nuclear conflict, and the political fallout from the construction of the Berlin Wall. Mary Beth Stein and R. Gerald Livingston commented on the book and joined in a discussion with Mr. Smyster, who also responded to questions from members of the audience. Bernd Schaefer moderated this book event sponsored by the Cold War International History Project at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. W. R. Smyser served at the U.S. Mission in Berlin from 1960 to 1964 and was special assistant to General Lucius Clay during the Berlin Wall crisis. He later served on Henry Kissinger's staff and was assistant secretary of State and assistant secretary-general of the U.N. He is the author of several books, including From Yalta to Berlin: The Cold War Struggle Over Germany. He is currently a adjunct German and European Studies professor at Georgetown University.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:25 Unidentified Speaker NOVEMBER 9, 2009 MARKS THE 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL. A FORMER DIPLOMAT RECOUNTS...
00:00:57 Unidentified Speaker SO, WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO THE WOODROW WILSON CENTER FOR THE BOOK'S LAUNCH. . "KENNEDY AND THE BERLIN...
00:03:38 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. SCHAEFER. ON JANUARY 1961 IT WAS A SNOWY DAY IN WASHINGTON....
00:36:24 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I THINK ALL OF YOU GOT A QUITE GOOD IMPRESSION WITH THIS BOOK IS SO NOW WE...
00:37:31 Unidentified Speaker IS ONE OF THE GREAT PARADOXES OF HISTORY THAT THE BERLIN WALL WAS BUILT ON AUGUST 13th, 1961 AND WAS...
00:51:38 Unidentified Speaker THEY GIVE VERY MUCH, PROFESSOR, AND NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO TURN TO JERRY LIVINGSTON. OF THE DISTINGUISHED...
00:52:28 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL THANK YOU FOR THE PERSONAL REMARKS. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH A PERSONAL NOTE,...
01:02:41 Unidentified Speaker IN 1961, 63, BASED ON ONE VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR. I THINK HE MENTIONS THAT SHOULD EXPRESS MORE. THAT...
01:03:54 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STIMULATING COMMENT. I WILL GIVE PROFESSOR SMYSER A RESPONSE. THERE ARE VERY...
01:05:04 Unidentified Speaker DON'T FORGET THIS IS PART OF A LONG-TERM THREAT. GERMANS HAVE BEEN MOVING FROM EAST TO WEST EVER SINCE...
01:05:21 Unidentified Speaker THEY DON'T FLEE. THEY MOVE. YOU DON'T FLEE FROM ALL HEIL TO NEW YORK. YOU MOVE. [LAUGHTER]
01:05:29 Unidentified Speaker IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU THINK OF OHIO. [LAUGHTER]
01:05:34 Unidentified Speaker THEY FLED. IF YOU LIVED IN CLEVELAND YOU MIGHT THINK DIFFERENTLY.
01:05:40 Unidentified Speaker WHATEVER. WILL ALLOW PROFESSOR SMYSER TO RESPOND.
01:05:46 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT KENNEDY'S SPEECH. WHICH WAS ISAMU...
01:07:05 Unidentified Speaker BUY IT FROM AMAZON. AND EDITOR AT THE PUBLISHER HIMSELF, SEND PEOPLE TO AMAZON. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO...
01:08:11 Unidentified Speaker MAYBE JUST STATE YOUR NAME FIRST.
01:08:13 Unidentified Speaker TOM HUGHES, DURING THE BERLIN CRISIS I WAS IN FEAR OF INTELLIGENCE AS DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR...
01:11:45 Unidentified Speaker THERE WERE A LOT OF STORIES. MY FINAL POINT IS A MORE SERIOUS ONE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I DON'T LIKE...
01:13:41 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAVE MADE SO MANY COMMENTS, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TIME TO COMMENT ON ALL OF THEM. EXCEPT ON THE...
01:16:39 Unidentified Speaker ANYMORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
01:16:40 Unidentified Speaker STATE TURNING FIRST.
01:16:43 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS STEVE. LET ME FLESH OUT SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST ALLUDED TO IN PASSING. MY IMPRESSION IS...
01:17:23 Unidentified Speaker THIS WAS KISSINGER'S VIEW. IT'S HARD TO SAY IN RETROSPECT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TRY TO. I WOULD SAY...
01:21:49 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU THINK THOSE NOTES WERE DESTROYED BECAUSE WHAT KISSINGER SAID WAS OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DROP...
01:21:58 Unidentified Speaker I'M NOT EVEN SURE HE SAID THAT. I NEVER ASKED HIM THAT. THEY WERE DESTROYED AS ADENAUER REGARDED THEM...
01:22:15 Unidentified Speaker THEY WOULD HAVE DROP IN EAST GERMANY SPIRIT I DIDN'T ASK KISSINGER WHAT HE SAID. I DON'T KNOW. BUT...
01:22:31 Unidentified Speaker OBVIOUSLY NOT.
01:22:32 Unidentified Speaker OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
01:22:34 Unidentified Speaker MICHAEL BENDER FROM THE AIR FORCE. YOU SAID THAT KHRUSHCHEV RESPECTED RESTRAINT. WHAT DID HE THINK...
01:22:58 Unidentified Speaker FUNNY MOMENT WITH KHRUSHCHEV. I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID ABOUT EISENHOWER. SO I CAN'T ANSWER...
01:24:21 Unidentified Speaker BUT THE POINT WAS KHRUSHCHEV WAS HONORED AND DELIGHTED THAT HE HAD BEEN INVITED TO CAMP DAVID. HE...
01:26:22 Unidentified Speaker DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE
01:26:30 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. LET ME JUST RAISE A COUPLE MORE POINTS, DICK, THAT I THINK DESERVE A LITTLE...
01:29:22 Unidentified Speaker WHEN HE MET WITH KENNEDY AS KENNEDY WAS GOING TO VIENNA, HE SAID HOLDFAST THAT HE SAID THAT IS THE...
01:29:54 Unidentified Speaker BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOCUS IT ON THIS PERIOD. I HAD WANTED TO WRITE THIS...
01:32:15 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PROFESSOR SMYSER. THANK YOU MARY BETH, AND GO TO WWW.AMAZON.COM. THANK YOU EVERYBODY...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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