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YOUTUBE. IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS WE'LL BE TAKING YOU LIVE TO A DEBATE FOR NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR. WE'LL... |
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GOOD EVENING. I'M JIM HOOKER. WELCOME TO NJN'S CAMPAIGN 2009, NEW JERSEY GUB TORIAL DEBATE. FOR THE... |
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THANK YOU, JIM. MR. CHRISTY IT SOMETIMES SEEMS YOUR BUDGET NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP. YOU SAY YOU WOULD... |
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MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR WATCHING TONIGHT AND FOR BEING... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS FOR A RESPONSE. |
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THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. LET ME FIRST OF ALL COMPLIMENT MR. DAGETT BECAUSE HE HAS A PLAN.... |
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MR. DAG GETT, 30 SECONDS FOR YOUR RESPONSE. |
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I AGREE THAT THERE'S BEEN NO PLAN PUT FORWARD BY MR. CHRISTY, I PUT FORWARD A PLAN THAT CUTS PROPERTY... |
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MR. CHRISTY, 30 SECONDS FOR YOUR REBUTTAL. |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE DOES HAVE A PLAN, THE SAME PLAN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS HE HAD FOR THE LAST FOUR,... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTY, MR. AARON HAS A FOLLOW-UP. |
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PLT CHRISTY, YOU ARE STILL BEING PRETTY VAGUE HOW TAX CUTS AND CERTAIN SPENDING HIKES WOULD MESH WITH... |
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MICHAEL, LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE DOWN HERE IN TRENTON A LONG TIME AND YOU THINK THAT'S VAGUE... |
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OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM SINTS THEE BURTON OF THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER. CYNTHIA? |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, THE PRIZE FOR WINNING THIS ELECTION IS THAT YOU GET TO IT WALK INTO THE STATEHOUSE... |
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CYNTHIA, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN HE TO FACE A $7 BILLION BUDGET DEFICIT LAST YEAR AND WE WERE ABLE TO COME... |
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MR. DAGGETT, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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THE PROPOSAL I PUT FORWARD WILL, FOR TAX CUTS, WILL ALSO DEAL WITH ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT $8 BILLION... |
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TIME, MR. DAGGETT. THANK YOU. MR. CHRISTY, 30 SECONDS FOR YOUR RESPONSE. |
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A NEW RECORD IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS IT. IN GOVERNOR CORZINE'S FIRST TWO YEARS AS GOVERNOR, DESPITE... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, REBUTTAL? |
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-- IS EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER AS WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE, GIVE OR TAKE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. SINT THAT HAS A FOLLOW-UP. |
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GOVERNOR WOULD YOU SEEK TO BREAK THE NO LAY-OFF DEAL YOU HAVE WITH STATE WORKERS? |
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NO, CYNTHIA, WE HAVE LOWERED THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEE SZ, ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY MATTER... |
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THE NEXT QUESTION GOES -- IS FROM BOB INGAL, GANNETT, NEW JERSEY AND GOES TO MR. DAGGETT. BOB? |
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THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND IS RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT WE FINANCE ROAD AND... |
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THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND IS OUT OF MONEY AND LARGELY BECAUSE OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS OR SO, THIS... |
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TIME. MR. CHRISTY, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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AGAIN, I AGREE WITH MR. DAGGETT IN PART. THE HISTORY OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS OVER THE LAST 25... |
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TIME. GOVERNOR CORZINE, RESPONSE? |
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WE LIVE IN THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED STATE IN THE NATION. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROADS ARE... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC. |
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MR. DAGGETT, REPUBLICAN. |
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MR. CHRISTY, EASY TO KRIT SEES WITH NO PLAN OF YOUR OWN. THE BOTTOM LINE YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH SMOKE... |
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THANK YOU, BOB INGAL HAS A FOLLOW-UP. BOB? |
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MR. DAGGETT, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU RAISE THE TAX ON A GALLON OF GASOLINE IN NEW JERSEY. |
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WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE FROM A TRANSPORTATION POINT. WE HAVE THE LOWEST GASOLINE TAX... |
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TIME. |
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-- BE ABLE TO BE ANALYZE IT CAREFULLY AND COME UP WITH THE RIGHT NUMBER. |
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THANKS. NEXT QUESTION FROM CYNTHIA BURR THAN FOR FROM THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER FOR MR. CHRISTY. |
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YOU'VE SUGGESTED HEALTHY YOUNG PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE BARE-BONES INSURANCE POLICIES WHICH... |
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ZINT YEAH, I WOULDN'T CUT FROM THE MANDATED COVERAGES. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE... |
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TIME. GOVERNOR CORZINE, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I THANK GOD THAT MR. CHRISSY'S MOTHER HAD A MAMMOGRAM. I HOPE THAT... |
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TIME. |
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-- MAMMOGRAMS, DROPPING 48 HOURS STAYS FROM MATERNITY LEAVE. |
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MR. DAGGETT, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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MR. CHRISTY'S RESPONSE WAS NO CUT OF MANDATES. WELL, IF YOU DON'T CUT THE MANDATES HOW ARE YOU GOING... |
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TIME. MR. CHRISTY, REBUTTAL? |
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SO, LET'S MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR. I WOULD NOT HAVE A PLAN THAT WOULD EVER PREVENT ANY WOMAN WHO NEEDED... |
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THANK YOU. THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM BOB INGAL FOR GOVERNOR CORZINE. BOB. |
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GOVERNOR, YOU TOLD THE PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER YOU WOULDN'T RULE OUT RAISING TAXES. WHAT TAXES WERE... |
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FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO JUST COME BACK TO THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED. I DON'T THINK IT... |
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MR. DAGGETT, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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ISN'T IT APPROPRIATE I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE TWO GUYS? [ LAUGHTER ] |
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LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES IN THIS CAMPAIGN. THE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. ... |
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MR. CHRISTY, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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THE GOVERNOR SAYS HE WANTS TO STAND WITH WOMEN BUT FIRST HE'D LIKE TO SCARE THEM TO GET THEIR VOTE... |
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TIME. |
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-- WE CANNOT CONTINUE WITH THAT. |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, REBUTTAL. |
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THE PROBLEM, MR. CHRISTY HAS, HE DOESN'T BOTHER TO GIVE ANY SPECIFICS. THE SAME QUESTION THAT MICHAEL... |
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TIME. |
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AND EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT FOR 300,000 -- |
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MICHAEL AARON, UP NEXT, QUESTION FOR MR. DAGGETT. |
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MR. DAGGETT, YOUR PROPERTY TAX PLAN WOULD, AMONG OTHER THINGS, DO AWAY WITH HOMESTEAD REBATES. THE... |
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THAT PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM IS IN A WAY A SHAM BECAUSE WE SEND A BUNCH OF OUR MONEY DOWN TO TRENTON... |
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MR. CHRISTY, 30-SECOND RESPONSE. |
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WELL, I THINK I JUST HEARD THE GOVERNOR SAY HE CUT TAXES SERIOUSLY IN HIS FOUR YEARS. THERE ARE $9... |
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TIME. |
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WHEN MR. CHRISTY DOESN'T LIKE THE TRUTH HE COMES UP WITH HIS OWN VERSION. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. MR. DAGGETT, YOUR REBUTTAL. |
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I'M GETTING SQUEEZED HERE IN THE MIDDLE. IT'S -- I EMPHASIZE AGAIN MY PLAN GIVES A 25% TAX -- PROPERTY... |
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MICHAEL AARON HAS A FOLLOW-UP. MICHAEL. |
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THE FOLLOW UP IS TO MR. CHRISTY. MR. CHRISSY, TO ECHO SOME OF THE STATE'S COMMENTATORS, WHERE'S YOUR... |
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MICHAEL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE SHARED SERVICES, REGIONALIZATION AND CONSOLIDATION.... |
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BOB INGAL HAS THE NEXT QUESTION TO MR. CHRIS YOOZ. BOB? |
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THE CORZINE CAMPAIGN SAYS YOU HAVE ONE SET OF RULES FOR YOURSELF AND ANOTHER SET OF RULES FOR EVERYBODY... |
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NO, IT ISN'T. YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, I'VE FOLLOWED ONE SET OF RULES. AND THAT'S THE... |
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GOVERNOR, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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NOW THIS MISSES THE POINT WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT DRIVING, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT NOT REPORTING ASSETS,... |
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MR. DAGGETT. |
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I DON'T CARE ABOUT DRIVING RECORDS, I DON'T CARE ABOUT LOANS AND SUBORDINATES AND GIRLFRIENDS AND... |
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MR. CHRISTY, YOUR REBUTTAL. |
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BY THE WAY ANOTHER TIME CHRIS DAGGETT AND I AGREE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT STUFF, CHRIS. SEEMS... |
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MICHAEL. |
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GOVERNOR IN THE ATTEMPT TO IMPROVE URBAN EDUCATION YOUR EMPHASIS HAS BEEN ON PRESCHOOL WHICH MR. CHRISTY... |
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WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL THE PREMISES. CERTAINLY, PRESCHOOL IS THE SINGLE-MOST IMPORTANT... |
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TIME. |
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OUR URBAN EDUCATION AND WE'RE GETTING THAT DONE. |
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MR. DAGGET YOUR RESPONSE. |
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I HAVE A DOCTOR IN EDUCATION SO I HAVE A GREAT PASSION FOR EDUCATION. I WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL... |
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TIME. |
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BUT THEY DON'T AS IT TURNS OUT. |
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PLCHT CHRISTY, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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I ONCE AGAIN AGREE WITH MR. DAGGET WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN HIS ASSESSMENT. ONE OUT OF EVERY TEN CHILDREN... |
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THEY'RE OUR KIDS. |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, REBUTTAL? |
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WE'RE PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, WHICH MR. CHRISTY CALLS BABYSITTING. IT IS... |
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TIME. |
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STAND WITH THEM AS OPPOSED CRITICIZE THEM. |
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MICHAEL HAS A FOLLOW-UP. |
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GOVERNOR, MR. CHRISTY KEEPS SAY YOUR ADMINISTRATION APPROVED OBL ONE OF 22 CHARTER SCHOOL APPLICATIONS... |
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I'VE BEEN PUSHING CHARTER SCHOOLS LONG BEFORE I GOT INTO PUBLIC LIFE. I BELIEVE IN CHARTER SCHOOLS.... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING. |
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CYNTHIA BURTON HAS THE NEXT QUESTION AND IT GOES TO MR. DAGGET. CYNTHIA? |
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MR. DAGGET, TO CUT RISING COSTS WOULD YOU CLOSE THE STATE PENSION SYSTEM TO NEW EMPLOYEES? ? |
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WE WOULD CHANGE IT. WE WOULD MAKE IT A SYSTEM THAT IS BASED ON RATHER THAN A DEFINED BENEFIT SYSTEM... |
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MR. CHRISTY, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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SINT THEE I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT ITEM FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CAMPAIGN FOR NEW EMPLOYEES EX EXCLUDING... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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WELL, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DIDN'T PUT MONEY INTO THE PENSION SYSTEM. I... |
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MR. DAGGET YOUR REBUTTAL? |
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AGREE THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T DONE WELL BY THE PENSION SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME NOW BUT... |
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TIME. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK NOW FROM THE QUESTIONING BY OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS. DON'T... |
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I WOULD ASK THEM TO PLEASE BE AS SPECIFIC AS THEY CAN BE ABOUT HOW THEY PLAN TO SOLVE THE STATE'S... |
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OKAY. THIS QUESTNNOEOES TO M CHRISTY AND Y YOU COULD HEAR THE |
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I COULD. THANK YOU, M.M. A FEW THINGS, FIRST OFF, OUR STATE NOW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF ARARS H HAS... |
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TIME, MR. CHRISTY, GOVERNOR CORZINE. |
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MR. CHRISTY CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT AN EIGHT-YEAR PROGRAM. I THINK I'VE BEEN GOVERNOR FOUR YEARS IF... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- WORKING TO GET EVEN MORE DONE ON EFFICIENCIES. |
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MR. DAGGETT YOUR RESPONSE. |
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AN $8 BILLION BUDGET BACK IS SO BIG YOU COULD FIRE EVERY STATE WORKER AND STILL WOULDN'T HAVE A BALANCED... |
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TIME MR. DAGGET. |
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-- ON THE STATE FINANCES. |
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MR. KROOITSY, YOUR REBUTTAL. |
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SURE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THEN. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT FOR EVERY ONE... |
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TIME. MR. CHRISTY I WILL ASK A FOLLOW. MR.ING TODAYGET IF I UNDERSTAND HIM RIGHT AND OTHERS AND OTHERS... |
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WELL, FIRST OF ALL I SAY THEY'RE WRONG. AND SECONDLY, SECONDLY MR. DAGGET'S SOLUTION IS TO RAISE ... |
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TIME. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC AND CAN WE ROLL THAT? |
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QUESTION WOULD ACTUALLY BE TO TO -- SINCE THERE IS A MIGRATION OUT, HOW -- WHAT STEPS WOULD YOU TAKE... |
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AND THAT QUESTION GOES TO YOU, GOVERNOR. |
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WELL, THE REALITY IS PRINCETON STUDY SHOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE GROWTH IN OUR POPULATION. THERE ARE... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- I THINK THEY'LL CONTINUE TO COME HERE. |
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MR. DAGGET A RESPONSE. |
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SOMEHOW I'VE MISSED ALL THAT JOB GROWTH BECAUSE LAST TIME I LOOKED UNEMPLOYMENT IN NEW JERSEY WAS... |
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TIME. MR. CHRISTY. |
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THE MATH, 10.7% TOP INCOME TAX RATE IN NEW JERSEY, 3.05% IN PENNSYLVANIA. 10.7, JOHN CORZINE'S RAISED... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, A REBUTTAL. |
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MR. CHRISTY AND MR. DAGGET BOTH ARE PRETENDING NEW JERSEY IS SOMEHOW SUFFERING MORE THAN THE NATION... |
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GOVERNOR THAT'S TIME. I WILL ASK A FOLLOW-UP HERE, AS WELL. IS IT TRUE FROM WHAT MR. CHRISTY IS SAYING... |
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I JUST GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE BRIDGE COMING FROM NEW YORK CITY INTO NEW... |
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TIME. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC. |
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WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE IN NEW JERSEY, ESPECIALLY REDUCING TEEN-AGED... |
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WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE? |
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I'D LIKE TO SEE MASSIVE EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS AND ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL SO THAT OUR YOUNG WOMEN CAN... |
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AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR MR. DAGGET. MR. DAGGET? |
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I AGREE WITH THE QUESTIONER THAT EDUCATION IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. BUT, I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT... |
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MR. CHRISTY, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TEACH OUR... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, RESPONSE? |
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THIS IS A PLACE MR. CHRISTY AND I TOTALLY DISAGREE. I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.... |
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MR. DAGGET A REBUTTAL. |
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A DEGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH GOVERNOR CORZINE ON THAT STATEMENT AND I AGREE WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE CAN... |
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THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC. |
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PROPERTY TAXES. HOW MUCH FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE WE GETTING THAT'S GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE?... |
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I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX PROBLEM IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY.... |
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THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH. WE HAVE HAD ROAD TAXES FOR THE PAST -- I'VE LIVED HERE... |
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I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR POLICY IS ABOUT TAXES AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT LOWERING THEM.... |
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ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT WASN'T ONE QUESTION, IT WAS A SERIES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. THAT SKIPPED MY MIND... |
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WELL, THIS IS, AGAIN, WHERE WE SEE A CLEAR DIFFERENCE ON THIS STAGE. WHAT YOU JUST SAW ON YOUR TV... |
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TIME. GOVERNOR CORZINE, RESPONSE. |
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I THINK JUST HEARD WHY THE "STAR LEDGER" SAYS WHAT MR. CHRISTY HASZ TO SAY ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES A... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- THE MAJOR DRIVER OF PROPERTY TAXES AND GOT TEN DOWN. |
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MR. CHRISTIE LEFT NO PLAN. MR. CORZINE, RACING TAXES. MY PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC. WE ARE GOING TO CUT... |
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MR. CHRISTIE, REBUTTAL. |
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LISTEN TO THAT VERY TRICKY LANGUAGE BY MR. DAGGETT. HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO EXPAND THE SALES TAX. HIS... |
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TIME. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW GO TO ANOTHER PUBLIC QUESTION. |
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I WOULD ASK IF THERE IS CURRENTLY A MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL THAT IS PENDING BEFORE THE STATE LEGISLATURE,... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, THIS WILL GO TO YOU. DID A LITTLE -- A COUPLE OF CALLS ON THIS ONE. IT PASSED THE... |
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I'LL SIGN THE BILL. |
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OKAY. |
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THAT'S WHAT HIS QUESTION WAS. I'LL SIGN THE BILL. |
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MR. DAGGY? |
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I'D WANT TO SEE ALL THE BILL. I'M GENERALLY IN FAVOR AS LONG AS IT CAN BE TARGETED TO THE PERSON THAT... |
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MR. CHRISTIE? |
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LISTEN, I WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO LEGALLY AND RESPONSIBLY TO ALLEVIATE THE AWFUL SUFFERING FOR... |
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IF YOU HAVE A HEADACHE IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE GET MEDICAL MARIJUANA.... |
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I WILL ASK A FOLLOW-UP HERE OF MR. CHRISTIE. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DEVIL BEING IN THE DETAILS. THERE... |
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I'VE LOOKED AT THE SENATE BILL. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STRENGTHENED, AND I HOPE THE ASSEMBLY WILL... |
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STRENGTHENED? |
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THE SAFEGUARDS NEED TO BE STRENGTHENED. AND IF THEY DO THAT, THEN I WOULD BE WILLING TO SIGN A BILL... |
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ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC. |
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EVERYBODY THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS IS VERY SLOW OR GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.... |
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ALL RIGHT. WE BEGIN THIS ROUND OF QUESTIONS WITH MR. DAGGETT. MR. DAGGETT? |
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UNFORTUNATELY, A TURNAROUND IS EXPECTED TO BE A LOT SLOWER THAN ANYBODY WOULD HOPE. SO IT'S NOT GOING... |
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WHAT THAT GENTLEMAN SAYS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND THE PROBLEM WE HAVE HERE IS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT IN NEW... |
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WE WANT TO PUT THE GENTLEMEN BACK TO WORK AND WE'RE DOING MORE THAN ALMOST ANY STATE. WE HAVE THE... |
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A REBUTTAL? |
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WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, BUT IT'S SLOW, AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT SO THAT THIS STATE IS MORE... |
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OUR FINAL QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC. |
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HOW DO THEY PLAN TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE UNINSURED, NUMBER ONE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT FOR SOME REASON... |
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MR. CHRISTIE, THAT QUESTION IS FOR YOU. |
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LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. 550,000 WOMEN IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY WITH... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, RESPONSE? |
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WELL, WE HAVE EXPANDED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INSURED LAST YEAR BY 150,000. THAT'S 11% GROWTH. WE'RE... |
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MR. DAGGETT, A RESPONSE? |
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I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE CONGRESS WILL COME UP WITH A NATIONAL HEALTH CARE PLAN AT SOME POINT IN TIME... |
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TIME, MR. DAGGETT. |
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MR. CHRISTIE, A REBUTTAL. |
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WITH THESE OUT OF STATE INSURANCE COMPANIES COMING IN AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THE GOVERNOR FALSELY... |
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ALL RIGHT. JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE BACK TO OUR PANEL OF REPORTERS. AND THEY'LL COME... |
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NOT ONLY IS THERE NOT AN ISSUE, 22 STATES, INCLUDING OUR REGULATORY AGENCY HERE IN NEW JERSEY HAVE... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO SPEND DOING WHAT MR. CHRISTIE SUGGESTS. |
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MR. DAGGETT, A RESPONSE. |
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WE NEED STRONG ETHICS LAWS IN NEW JERSEY. AND I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT IN MY CAMPAIGN AND ON MY... |
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MR. CHRISTIE, YOUR RESPONSE. |
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I'LL MAKE THIS REALLY CLEAR. WHEN I'M ELECTED GOVERNOR, ALL MY ASSETS WILL GO INTO A BLIND TRUST SO... |
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TIME. GOVERNOR, A REBUTTAL? |
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MR. CHRISTIE HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC OFFICE FOR THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. IF HE WERE GOING TO PUT... |
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MY NEXT QUESTION GOES TO MR. DAGGETT. YOU ARE THE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE, RAISING THE... |
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DO I LOOK LIKE I'M IN THIS TO PLAY THE SPOILER ROLE? I BELIEVE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN THIS STATE... |
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TIME, MR. DAGGETT. |
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I AGREE WITH MR. DAGGETT THAT OVER THE LAST DECADE OR MORE, THE REPUBLICANS AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE... |
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TIME, MR. CHRISTIE. |
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AND INCREASE REGULATION. |
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I THINK IT'S VERY POSITIVE MR. DAG SET IN THE RACE. THE FACT IS THAT HE IS ACTUALLY PUTTING DOWN SPECIFIC... |
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MR. DAGGETT, REBUTTAL? |
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SOUND LIKE BOTH THESE TWO GUYS MIGHT VOTE FOR ME. NEITHER THE REPUBLICANS NOR THE DEMOCRATS FOR THE... |
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TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE BACK TO A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS FROM OUR... |
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THANK YOU, JIM. MR. CHRISTIE, LET'S TALK ABOUT FEDERAL STIMULUS FUNDS. YOU SAID YOU WOULD REJECT FUNDS... |
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MICHAEL, FIRST, I THINK I JUST HEARD THE GOVERNOR SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT LAST QUESTION IN CRITICIZING... |
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TIME. GOVERNOR CORZINE, A RESPONSE. |
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MR. CHRISTIE, ONCE AGAIN IF HE DOESN'T LIKE THE TRUTH, HE MAKES UP HIS OWN VERSION. I SAID IN THE... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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-- TO WORK WITH US TO GET OUR ECONOMY WORKING. TURNING DOWN THOSE MONIES IS RIDICULOUS. |
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MR. DAGGETT, 30-SECOND RESPONSE. |
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WE NEEDED A STIMULUS PACKAGE, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TARGETED, TIMELY AND TEMPORARY. AND THE PROBLEM... |
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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY $8 BILLION TO $10 BILLION DEFICIT? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE THINKING OF PEOPLE LIKE... |
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TIME. MICHAEL ARON HAS A FOLLOW-UP. |
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I'D LIKE TO ASK THE GOVERNOR TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING MR. CHRISTIE SAID FIVE MINUTES AGO. HE SAID WE'VE... |
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SUSTAIN THE CAP ON PROPERTY TAXES. WE'RE DOING MORE ON SHARED SERVICES AND CONSOLIDATIONS THAN ANY... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. THANK YOU. THE NEXT QUESTION FROM CYNTHIA BURTON OF THE "PHILADELPHIA ENQUIRER."... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE YOU SAY THAT YOU INSTITUTED THE FIRST ECONOMIC STIMULUS PROGRAM IN THE NATION AND... |
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IT DEPEND ON HOW YOU CUT UP THE REGION. NEW YORK CITY, WHICH IS 9 MILLION PEOPLE OR 8.5 MILLION PEOPLE,... |
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MR. DAGGETT, A RESPONSE. |
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DEMOCRATS, TAX AND SPEND. REPUBLICANS, BORROW AND SPEND. WHAT'S THE COMMON DENOMINATOR? SPEND. THAT'S... |
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TIME. MR. CHRISTIE? |
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THE GOVERNOR HAS SO LITTLE EXPERIENCE CUTTING TAXES THAT HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, REBUTTAL? |
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MR. CHRISTIE DOESN'T KNOW THAT WE PUT THAT TAX ON FOR ONE YEAR, TEMPORARY TAX. COMES OFF. GOES BACK... |
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TIME. CYNTHIA HAS A FOLLOW. |
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GOVERNOR THE STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES KEEP GOING UP BUT YOUR ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THERE ARE... |
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FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN FEEL GOOD WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS ARE GOING UP WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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AND THE NEXT QUESTION FROM BOB ENGEL OF NEW JERSEY. IT GOES TO MR. DAGGETT. |
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WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE? |
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I'VE SAID IF THE BILL PASSES THE LEGISLATURE, I WOULD SIGN THAT BILL. BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO ONE... |
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MR. CHRISTIE, YOUR RESPONSE? |
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I BELIEVE NEW JERSEY'S CIVIL UNION LAW IS GOOD AND IT'S WORKING. I DO NOT SUPPORT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, A RESPONSE. |
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I WILL SIGN THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY BILL THAT IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. VERY STRAIGHT... |
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MR. DAGGETT, A REBUTTAL? |
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GOT TO GO BACK TO SHORE RENTALS. YES, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE -- OR PUT A SALES TAX ON CONDOMINIUMS... |
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CYNTHIA, YOUR QUESTION IS FOR MR. CHRISTIE. |
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MR. CHRISTIE, YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU SUPPORT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND VOUCHERS, BUT I'M WONDERING, HOW YOUR... |
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CYNTHIA, FIRST OF ALL, A DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THAT DOESN'T PUT HURDLES UP IN FRONT OF THOSE PEOPLE... |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, A RESPONSE. |
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LET'S GET IT STRAIGHT, FOLKS. I BELIEVE IN CHARTER SCHOOLS. WE'RE EXPANDING THEM. WE WENT FROM 14,000... |
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MR. DAGGETT, RESPONSE? |
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I THINK THE QUESTION WAS HOW CAN WE ASSURE THOSE KIDS GET A GOOD EDUCATION. SOMETHING LIKE -- I FORGET... |
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MR. CHRISTIE, REBUTTAL. |
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LET'S MAKE THIS REALLY CLEAR. I'M FOR VOUCHERS IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE FAILING. AND THE GOVERNOR... |
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TIME. THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. WE ARE TICKING DOWN TO THE FINAL MINUTES OF... |
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THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ELECTION FOR NEW JERSEY, MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIME. I DON'T HAVE... |
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TIME, MR. DAGGETT. |
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PLEASE JOIN ME AND VOTE AS AN INDEPENDENT FOR GOVERNOR, CHRIS DAGGETT. |
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GOVERNOR CORZINE, YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT. |
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ON THINGS THAT MATTER, FOR THE FAMILIES OF NEW JERSEY, I STAND WITH THEM. I STAND TO MAKE SURE THAT... |
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TIME, GOVERNOR. |
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THE THINGS THAT MATTER IWILL HELP MAKE OUR FAMILIES BETTER IN THIS STATE OF NEW JERSEY. |
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MR. CHRISTIE, YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT. |
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9.7% UNEMPLOYMENT. THE HIGH NEST NEW JERSEY IN 33 PRS. AND THE WORST IN THE REGION. THE HIGHEST TAX... |
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THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES NJN'S CAMPAIGN 2009 NEW JERSEY GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE. WE'D LIKE TO THANK... |
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