Health Effects of Cell Phone Use

Sep 14, 2009

Senate Committee Appropriations

Witnesses testified about research into cellular telephone use and its potential impact on human health, as well as the potential side effects and consequences of cell phone use. They focused on studies that had examined potential links between cell phones and cancer, and about warnings issued by some groups on cell phone safety. Many studies .. Read More
Witnesses testified about research into cellular telephone use and its potential impact on human health, as well as the potential side effects and consequences of cell phone use. They focused on studies that had examined potential links between cell phones and cancer, and about warnings issued by some groups on cell phone safety. Many studies related to the effects of cell phone use on health is contradictory, but more recent epidemiological studies involving humans suggest that heavy cell phone users of 10 years or more have developed brain tumors on the same side of their heads as where they used to hold their mobile phones.

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00:00:38 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator -- HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND OTHER AGENCIES WILL COME TO ORDER. THERE ARE AN ESTIMATED 200 MILLION...
00:03:09 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator I HAD TO CALL SENATOR HARKIN ON HIS CELL PHONE TO GET HIM. [LAUGHTER] I WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH. AGAIN...
00:06:48 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator SENATOR HARKIN AND FINALLY ASKED QUESTIONS BUT PROVIDED THE BIG ANSWERS. THE PART HOWEVER SMALL AND...
00:07:36 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator WE'VE PULLED TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SENATOR SPECTER. WE WILL TURN TO THE FIRST PANEL AND...
00:08:41 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I AM PLEASED TO DISCUSS RESEARCH...
00:14:05 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator I WAS ASKING WHO IS THE GENTLEMAN WITH YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE HERE TO TRY TO FIX THE POWERPOINT...
00:14:13 Unidentified Speaker I'M AFRAID I AM NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THAT.
00:14:17 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator NOT WORKING?
00:14:27 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, DR. BUCHER, THAT HE WANTED --
00:14:33 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director NOW THAT WE HAVE THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION WE WERE JUST GOING TO SHOW PICTURES TO GIVE YOU A SENSE...
00:15:16 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHAMBERS ARE FOR.
00:15:20 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THE CHAMBERS ARE WHERE THE RAT STUDIES WILL BE CARRIED OUT. THESE ARE EXPOSURE CHAMBERS WHERE THE...
00:15:30 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator USING VARYING LEVELS AND ALL THAT? DR. BUCHER, THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DESCRIBE THAT NTP AND FALSE ANIMALS....
00:16:42 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director WELCOME SENATOR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MCI DOES SUPPORT PART OF THE PHONE STUDY. IT IS A LARGE...
00:16:57 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator BUT I HAVE A LIST AND I WILL SEE THE UNITED STATES LISTED.
00:17:01 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I HAVE THE RECORD WE ARE SUPPORTING ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATORS ON THE PHONE STUDY BUT I COULD...
00:17:11 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator I HAVE 13 COUNTRIES I JUST DON'T SEE THE UNITED STATES LISTED AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT...
00:17:20 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator SO WHY AREN'T WE DOING MORE ON THE EPIDEMIOLOGY?
00:17:26 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE GRAND PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME...
00:18:49 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator YEAH SAID WHILE SO MANY -- WHILE THE WEIGHT OF THE CURRENT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE HAS NOT CONCLUSIVELY...
00:19:36 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I SAID THE BETTER DATA ARE NEEDED FOR THE TESTIMONY THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF STUDIES ON THE CELLPHONE...
00:21:53 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOCTOR. I WANT TO YIELD DOWN.
00:21:59 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU HAD MENTIONED CHILDREN. WHAT ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO AN...
00:22:19 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director YES, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION, I AM SORRY.
00:22:21 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL RISK FOR CHILDREN AND USING CELL PHONES? I'VE WRITTEN A LETTER TO...
00:22:44 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I THINK WITH RESPECT TO MANY EXPOSURES TO MANY AGENTS AS WE STUDY MORE AND MORE AGENTS AND LOOK AT...
00:23:00 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator HOW ABOUT CHILDREN? IS THERE SIGNIFICANT RISK? I HAVE GOT FIVE [INAUDIBLE]
00:23:08 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director CHILDREN HAVE A CONFIGURATION OF THE SKULLS THAT DOES ALLOW PENETRATION OF CILLUFFO AND MEDIATION DE...
00:23:15 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator ARE YOU SAY THERE IS POTENTIALLY GREATER RISK?
00:23:20 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I AM SAYING THERE IS POTENTIALLY GREATER RISK.
00:23:24 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WHAT LIMITATIONS IF ANY IF PARENTS ARE WATCHING THIS ON C-SPAN WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?
00:23:32 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I WISH I HAD A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT.
00:23:36 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WOULD THERE BE A PRECAUTIONARY APPROACH? I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES ARE RECOMMENDING...
00:23:50 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director YES.
00:23:52 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT?
00:23:53 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE IN THE POSITION TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. ..
00:24:41 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THERE IS A $24 MILLION STUDY UNDERWAY. IS THAT ADEQUATE -- BEING CONDUCTED BY THE FEDERAL AGENCY....
00:24:49 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THIS STUDY IS GOING TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE THREE ASPECTS OF THE RESEARCH PROGRAM. AND FROM THE STANDPOINT...
00:25:09 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator SHOULD THERE BE STUDIES ON HUMANS IN THE UNITED STATES AS THERE ARE ELSEWHERE?
00:25:13 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I CERTAINLY WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE SHOULD BE STUDIES ON HUMANS, YES. I BELIEVE --
00:25:20 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WOULD YOU GIVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT SORT OF STUDIES YOU WOULD RECOMMEND FOR HUMANS...
00:25:27 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I COULD DO THAT. I CAN'T DO THAT NOW. I COULD DO THAT.
00:25:33 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator TOMORROW? I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT NOW, BUT DO IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN?
00:25:41 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director OKAY.
00:25:43 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator PRIVATE COMPANIES HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR -- SOME OF THE STUDIES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. ...
00:25:56 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director YES. TO SOME EXTENT. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STUDIES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THE LITERATURE WITH...
00:26:22 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WELL, STUDIES, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE LITERATURE DOESN'T GO TOO FAR. IS THERE RESEARCH BEING DONE THAT...
00:26:36 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THAT'S A SCENARIO THAT IS DIFFICULT TO ANSWER.
00:26:41 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator CUE STUDY THAT STUMPAGE -- STUMPAGE AND -- SUBJECT AND GIVE US A WRITTEN RESPONSE?
00:26:48 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I WILL.
00:26:50 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator I NOTICE IN THE BRIEFING MATERIALS THAT CELL PHONES SHOULD NOT BE USED IN AREAS WHERE RECEPTION IS...
00:27:08 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THE POWER THAT IS REQUIRED TO REACH THE CELL BASE STATION IS HIGHER IN THOSE SITUATIONS, THEREFORE...
00:27:23 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator ON THE ELEVATOR MY CELL PHONE CONKS OUT. IS THERE MORE FREQUENCY?
00:27:31 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE THE CELL PHONE IS TRYING TO REACH THE EXTENSION.
00:27:36 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THE RED LIGHT CAME ON. WOULD YOU GIVE US A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THAT AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IS INVOLVED...
00:27:55 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:27:58 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. DR. BUCHER, LET ME ASK. HOW LONG WITNESS -- WILL IT TAKE YOU...
00:28:14 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director IT WILL BE TAKING PLACE IN 2013 AND WE WILL BE REPORTING IN 2014.
00:28:26 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator WHY THAT LONG?
00:28:27 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THERE'S A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF TEAM THAT ANIMALS ARE EXPOSED, AND THEN IT TAKES TIME TO EXAMINE.
00:28:34 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator WILL THERE BE ANY PRELIMINARY NUMBERS?
00:28:38 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director IT'S A THREE-PHASE STUDY AND THERE WILL BE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE FIRST TWO STAGES EARLIER...
00:28:54 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator DO YOU KNOW IF WIRELESS PHONES WERE TESTED BEFORE THEY CAME ON THE MARKET? HOW MUCH TESTING WAS DONE...
00:29:05 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director WITH RESPECT TO HEALTH,-RELATED TESTING? I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
00:29:10 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT TO KNOW IF ANYTHING WAS DONE....
00:29:40 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director THERE ARE MANY STUDIES STILL GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.
00:29:43 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator IN OTHER WORDS, YOURS WOKEN BE -- WON'T BE THE FIRST.
00:29:52 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I'M SURE THERE ARE.
00:29:54 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator ARE THEY GOING ON IN THE U.S. OR OTHER COUNTRIES?
00:29:57 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
00:30:00 Pryor, MarkU.S. Senator THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:30:06 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU, SENATOR. DR. BUCHER -- I LEFT MY CELL PHONE SOMEPLACE. I HAVE ONE OF THESE. FROM A PROFESSIONAL...
00:30:56 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE HOLDING THE PHONE NOW IS PREFERRABLE TO UP AGAINST...
00:31:09 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator PREFERRABLE TO HOLDING IT TO YOUR EAR. SO YOU WOULD ADVICE PEOPLE, AS A PRECAUTION, IF THEY CAN DO...
00:31:22 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YES.
00:31:25 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator NOW, AS OPPOSED TO BLUE TOOTH. BLUE TOOTH IS AN ELECTRONIC DEVICE AND IT STILL RECEIVES THE ELECTROMAGNETIC...
00:31:47 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I DO NOT OWN A BLUE TOOTH.
00:31:49 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THAT IS NOT BLUE TOOTH. THIS IS WIRED.
00:31:53 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director SORRY.
00:31:58 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator BLUE TOOTH IS THAT -- SOMETHING THAT GETS THE INFORMATION WITHOUT ANY -- YOU GET THE RADIO FREQUENCIES...
00:32:26 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director I STAND CORRECTED.
00:32:30 Bucher, JohnAssociate Director YES.
00:32:31 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF THE OTHER PANELISTS WHEN THEY COME UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,...
00:36:08 Leszczynski, DariuszResearch Professor THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO THIS IMPORTANT HEARING ON TOPIC OF GREAT CONCERN TO ALL OF US. I AM A...
00:41:10 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. DR. PLEASE PROCEED.
00:41:19 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I'M GREATLY HONORED TO BE --
00:41:20 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator PLEASE PUNCH --
00:41:24 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I'M SORRY.
00:41:26 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I'M GREATLY HONORED TO TESTIFY AT THIS IMPORTANT HEARING ON A SUBJECT WHICH AFFECTS A SUBSTANTIAL PROPORTION...
00:47:14 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING A GREAT DISTANCE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. NOW WE MOVE TO DR....
00:47:36 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE CTIA TO PREPARE TODAY TO PROVIDE MY INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF...
00:58:27 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator HUESSY DE?
00:58:28 Davis, Devra L.Director THE INDUSTRY WORKING AGAINST SEEING THIS PUBLISHED AND I HAVE THE DETAILS OF THE FIRM AND INDIVIDUALS...
01:01:18 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU, DR. DAVIS. NOW WE TURN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP AND I MIGHT JUST SAY THAT WE'VE...
01:01:45 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE IM A SCIENTIST AT ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP AND ORGANIZATION...
01:06:36 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DOCTOR AND I WILL START THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I WAS LOOKING...
01:07:14 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist YES, THE DATABASE IS AVAILABLE FOR CONSUMERS FOR ANYBODY ON DAS EWG WEBSITE. IT IS SEARCHABLE, CONSUMERS...
01:07:36 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator YOU ALSO SAY THAT YOU'RE FINDING IS TEXT AND TRUMP'S TALKING. THAT IS YOUR FIRST TAPE, RIGHT HERE....
01:09:25 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector THIS STATEMENT IS CORRECT. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA YOU SEE THE FIRST TEN YEARS NOTHING HAPPENED...
01:10:51 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. DAVIS YOU SAID, AGAIN FOLLOWING UP ON THIS, YOU CITE THE DOCTOR'S STUDY AND SAY THAT THE PHONE...
01:11:23 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I CANNOT COMMENT ON THE OVERALL RESULT BECAUSE THE OVERALL RESULTS OR UNDER REVIEW AND ARE NOT PUBLISHED...
01:11:39 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator BUT AGAIN THOSE ARE BASED ON --
01:11:41 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector THOSE ARE BASED ON PEOPLE WHO ARE LONG-TERM USERS. THE TERM LONG-TERM USER IS NOT VERY CORRECT BECAUSE...
01:11:56 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. DAVIS, YOU SAID THE ONE RESEARCHER STUDIED YOUNG PEOPLE WHO BEGAN USING CELL PHONES AS TEENAGERS....
01:12:19 Davis, Devra L.Director ABSOLUTELY. TOMORROW WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE HELD A FEW BLOCKS AWAY I INVITE YOUR STAFF...
01:13:38 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator LET ME ASK THE QUESTION I ASKED DR. BUCHER. I'VE GOT MY BLACKBERRY WHICH WE USE ALL THE TIME. AGAIN...
01:14:11 Leszczynski, DariuszResearch Professor I PERSONALLY AND MY INSTITUTION IS ADVISING TO REDUCE YOUR PIECES IS THAT OF KEEPING SMALL PHONES...
01:14:30 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator ANY DIFFERENCE?
01:14:34 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector SAME THING.
01:14:35 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist I RECOGNIZE THE USE OF THE PHONE WOULD DECREASE A PERSON'S EXPOSURE. I DON'T THINK -- I CAN'T AGREE...
01:15:00 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. DAVIS?
01:15:02 Davis, Devra L.Director I BROUGHT MY EARPIECE BUT I WANT TO GO ON TO READ WHAT THE SITE SINCE THE DOCTOR SUGGESTED TO THE...
01:16:49 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist SAME QUESTION WE RECOMMEND DAY THEY USE SUCH AS THE ONES YOU HOLDING YOUR HAND AND I THINK THEY HAVE...
01:16:58 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND BLUE TO THE?
01:17:02 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist BLUE TOOTH IS ITSELF FREQUENCY RADIATION SO WHEN THE CELL PHONE IS HERE THE TABLE NEXT TO ME THE DISTANCE...
01:17:55 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator ON BLUE TOOTH, WE WILL GO BACK ON THIS WAY.
01:18:00 Davis, Devra L.Director IF YOU'RE USING A BLUE TOOTH AND HAVE THE PHONE AWAY FROM YOU AND TURNED OFF WHEN YOU ARE NOT USING...
01:18:26 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
01:18:28 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector IF THERE ARE USUALLY IT IS THE BOY TO THIS BETTER THAN THE CELL PHONE ITSELF BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS...
01:19:06 Leszczynski, DariuszResearch Professor BLUE TOOTH IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE WIRES AND WE DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA WHAT THIS CONTINUES...
01:20:06 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WHAT IS THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ALLEGED CONNECTION BETWEEN THE USE OF A CELL...
01:20:16 Davis, Devra L.Director THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE DOESN'T COME FROM HUMAN STUDIES AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM WHEN WE ARE LOOKING...
01:20:41 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator TELL ABOUT THE EXPERIMENTAL STUDY.
01:20:43 Davis, Devra L.Director HERE WE GO. THIS IS A MODEL OF THE BRAIN AND WHILE THE PRECISE INFORMATION IN HERE HAS BEEN DEBATED...
01:21:01 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THAT ESTABLISHES THERE IS MORE ABSORPTION -- WAIT A MINUTE, JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. THAT ESTABLISHES...
01:21:23 Davis, Devra L.Director THE PROCESS OF CANCER ARISES FROM DIFFERENT INSULTS TO OUR DNA, THE BASIC BUILDING BLOCKS OF GENETIC...
01:21:47 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WAIT A MINUTE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
01:21:58 Davis, Devra L.Director I THINK I CAN DO WITH IN FIVE OR LESS.
01:21:59 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION. WHAT IS THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE YOU HAVE AN EXPOSURE TO A CELLPHONE CAUSES...
01:22:08 Davis, Devra L.Director THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONNER IT SHOWS A DOUBLE STRAND BREAKS IN DNA AFTER EXPOS ARE TO CELLPHONE...
01:22:35 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WELL, THE DOCTOR TESTIFIED THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING AFTER TEN YEARS BUT SAYS THAT THERE ARE SO FEW INVOLVED...
01:22:49 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector REGARDING THE TEN YEARS, YES. BUT FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM NOT SURE THAT THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION....
01:23:55 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE A CAUSAL CONNECTION; IS THAT RIGHT?
01:24:00 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector WRITES, FOR THE CAUSAL ASSOCIATION THE CRITERIA ARE MUCH MORE STRICT.
01:24:10 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator DOCTOR, YOU'VE TESTIFIED THE EVIDENCE DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE CONNECTION BETWEEN CELL PHONES AND CANCER....
01:24:35 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT OBSERVATION
01:24:37 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator I'VE MADE AN OBSERVATION. I'VE ASKED A QUESTION. I AM NOT HAVING MUCH LUCK WITH ANSWERS.
01:24:43 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist I THINK THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE ISN'T ANY SINGLE STUDY. THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE IS THERE IS A BODY OF...
01:25:38 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator NOT STRONGLY SUGGEST SHOVING BETWEEN THE USE AND CANCER.
01:25:42 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist IT DOESN'T SHOW.
01:25:43 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator BUT THAT ISN'T A DEMONSTRATION THAT THERE IS NO
01:25:47 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist EXACTLY. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT IN THE BACKGROUND CONTEXT OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE...
01:26:16 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator I HAD A HEARING THAT HAD SIMILAR QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS IS THERE EVIDENCE THERE WAS NO CONSPIRACY...
01:27:35 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist PART OF THAT IS IT YOUR STATEMENT.
01:27:38 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WHICH PART IS IT?
01:27:40 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THE PART I SAID THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO RISK WHATSOEVER.
01:27:43 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THAT WASN'T PART OF MY QUESTION. THAT WAS AN OBSERVATION BEFORE.
01:27:48 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist YOUR STATEMENT THAT IT'S HARD TO PROVE A NEGATIVE --
01:27:52 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator LET'S GO BACK TO MY QUESTION IS IT A FAIR SUMMARY OF YOUR TESTIMONY THAT THERE IS -- THE EVIDENCE...
01:28:12 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THE EVIDENCE DOES NOT -- EXCUSE ME, HAVE TO TAKE THE LIBERTY OF REPHRASING.
01:28:22 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THE EVIDENCE DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE USE OF A CELL PHONE AND CANCER?...
01:28:38 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist HE SAID THE EVIDENCE DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE THERE'S NO CONNECTION. IS THAT WHAT HE MEANT TO SAY? I'M...
01:28:50 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator A FAIR STATEMENT THAT YOUR TESTIMONY IS THE EVIDENCE DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN...
01:29:00 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE COULD NEVER DEMONSTRATED A TOTAL NO CONNECTION.
01:29:09 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THAT I TAKE YOUR ANSWER TO BE CORRECT. LET ME TELL YOU WHERE I COME OUT WHAT COMES THROUGH TO ME IS...
01:31:42 Davis, Devra L.Director ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL HAVE IT AVAILABLE ON THE WEB AND PEOPLE HAVE TO REGISTER BY 7:30 THE WANT TO BE...
01:31:50 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator IF IT IS ON THE WEB WE CAN
01:31:54 Davis, Devra L.Director YES. [LAUGHTER]
01:31:57 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator THANK YOU.
01:32:00 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator LET ME FOLLOW ONE ANOTHER THING. FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE FDA...
01:32:17 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator WHEN HAS THAT STOP YOU -- [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
01:32:28 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator WELL, YOU DIDN'T HEAR MY FOLLOW-UP BECAUSE MY CHAIRMANSHIP ON ANOTHER COMMITTEE I DO HAVE JURISDICTION...
01:33:57 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
01:34:01 Erdreich, LindaSenior Scientist THIS BRINGS THE PART OF THE SPECTRUM BECAUSE IT ISN'T KNOWN TO CAUSE THE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT. ...
01:35:01 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. SADETZKI, YES?
01:35:03 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION TO WE HAVE MEXICAN OR NOT WORK WE STILL NEED TO IMPROVE THE...
01:35:28 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator WHAT --
01:35:30 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. IT IS SOME OF THE BODY OF THE WHO WHICH CLASSIFIES CARCINOGENS AND THEY HAVE...
01:36:04 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator POSSIBLE.
01:36:08 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector YES.
01:36:09 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THIS?
01:36:13 Leszczynski, DariuszResearch Professor WE DON'T HAVE THE PRECISE KNOWLEDGE WHAT THE DNA IS DAMAGED. THERE CAN BE TO WHEYS WAY IS HOW WE...
01:38:36 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE? I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP THINGS.
01:38:54 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator DR. SADETZKI AND YOU HAVE I WAS TRYING TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THESE, AND YOU RECOMMENDED HOLDING THE...
01:39:27 Davis, Devra L.Director THAT ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE BLACKBERRY MANUAL AS WELL AS ON IPHONE, WHICH NEARLY NONE OF US DOES,...
01:40:14 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator LET'S FACE IT, NOW MY WIFE HAS A BLACKBERRY. SHE KEEPS IT IN HER PURSE. [LAUGHTER] FINE. WE ALL HAVE...
01:40:29 Davis, Devra L.Director ACTUALLY, THE POLLSTER MAY GET ENOUGH DIFFERENCE. THAT'S WHY BLACKBERRYS IS 1 INCH. AN INCH IS --...
01:40:47 Davis, Devra L.Director I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER BETWEEN MY HOLSTER. [LAUGHTER] YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMEND THEIR HOLSTER. THIS...
01:41:25 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator MY LAST THING IS THIS. CELLPHONE TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING ALMOST EVERY DAY NOW, BLACKBERRYS. NOW YOU...
01:41:59 Davis, Devra L.Director I DON'T THINK WE KNOW. IN FACT NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE SO LONG AS YOU ARE HOLDING IT OUT HERE AND...
01:42:51 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, DOCTOR, I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST. DESCRIBE FOR ME JUST A LITTLE BIT, THE...
01:43:02 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE CONDUCTED A SCIENCE REVIEW OF OVER 200 PUBLICATIONS. THERE'S...
01:43:48 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THERE'S NO GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO PUT UP THIS KIND OF INFORMATION? ABOUT HOW MUCH OUR FREQUENCY IS PUT...
01:44:05 Naidenko, OlgaSenior Scientist THE FCC DOES MAINTAIN THE DATABASE, OR A DOCUMENT ASSOCIATE IT WITH EVERY PHONE. EVERY PHONE MODELS...
01:44:46 Davis, Devra L.Director YOU JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY REPORTED ESSAYS ARE, OF PROPES CAN BE AFFECTED BY TWO TO FOUR. THERE...
01:45:30 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator HE WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING, DR..
01:45:39 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector ON EVERY PHONE IN THE MARKET.
01:45:41 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator YOU ARE DOING THAT NOW?
01:45:44 Sadetzki, SiegalDirector FOR FOUR YEARS NOW. THE SECOND THING, I DON'T THINK THAT AN INCH WOULD BE ENOUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO...
01:46:19 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator SENATOR SPECTER, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD?
01:46:24 Specter, ArlenU.S. Senator SEEKING WHAT WE CAN DO ON MONDAY AFTERNOON OF THE SENATORS ARE INTENT -- [APPLAUSE]
01:46:38 Harkin, Thomas "Tom"U.S. Senator THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL OF YOU. I FOUND THIS REALLY VERY INTERESTING AND VERY...

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