Rescue Warriors

Sep 3, 2009

NPR (National Public Radio) | Diane Rehm Show

David Helvarg was a guest on WAMU's "Diane Rehm Show" to talk about his book Rescue Warriors: The U.S. Coast Guard, America's Forgotten Heroes (Thomas Dunne Books; May 12, 2009). In his book David Helvarg discusses the history and activities of the United States Coast Guard, founded in 1797 by Alexander Hamilton. Formerly part of the .. Read More
David Helvarg was a guest on WAMU's "Diane Rehm Show" to talk about his book Rescue Warriors: The U.S. Coast Guard, America's Forgotten Heroes (Thomas Dunne Books; May 12, 2009). In his book David Helvarg discusses the history and activities of the United States Coast Guard, founded in 1797 by Alexander Hamilton. Formerly part of the Department of Transportation, the Coast Guard is currently under the Department of Homeland Security and is a miltitary as well as law enforcement branch of the government. This duel status means the Coast Guard rescues people in trouble at sea, operates in war zones like Iraq and Vietnam, patrols the Artic ocean with ice breakers, and also intercepts drug runners using ships and aircraft. He talked about his activities in researching the book and stories of the Coast Guard such as during Hurricane Katrina and the World Trade Center attacks. Other topics included the wide and expanding range of duties of the Coast Guard. He responded to telephone calls and electronic communications from listeners. Susan Page was the guest host. David Helvarg is a journalist, private investigator, and a contributing editor on Public Radio International's Marketplace. He has written numerous articles on a wide range of ocean topics including high sea drift nets, off-shore drilling, and the Navy SEALs. He is previously the author of The War Against the Greens and Blue Frontier: Saving America's Living Seas.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:06 Host WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
00:00:09 Guest ENJOYED THE CONVERSATION.
00:00:14 Host PUBLIC RADIO INTERNATIONAL MARKETPLACE CONTRIBUTING EDITOR DAVID HELVARG DISCUSSES HISTORY AND ACTIVITY...
00:01:12 Host THANKS FOR JOINING. I AM SUSAN PAGE AT USA TODAY SITTING IN FOR DIANE. SHE HOPES TO BE BACK ON THE...
00:01:57 Guest THANK YOU.
00:01:58 Host WE INVITE LISTENERS TO TREND CONVERSATION. YOU CAN CALL OUR NUMBER, 1-800-435-8850 OR SEND AN E-MAIL....
00:02:43 Guest WHEN I GOT THERE TO COVER IT IT WAS CLEARLY THE ONLY PART OF THE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONING AND PART OF...
00:03:50 Host WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY DO?
00:03:53 Guest THEY CAME FIRST WITH AIR ASSETS, STARTED PULLING IN WITHIN EIGHT HOURS OF KATRINA THEY WERE PULLING...
00:06:21 Host YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THIS AS PART OF THE COAST GUARD CULTURE THEY HAVE THIS AUTONOMY TO MAKE DECISIONS...
00:06:40 Guest PART OF IT IS THEY HAVE A HISTORY GOING BACK OVER TO INJURED 19 YEARS WHEN THEY WERE FOUNDED BY ALEXANDER...
00:07:56 Host PHONE LINES ARE OPEN. YOU CAN GIVE US A CALL AT 1-800-435-8850. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A MOMENT ABOUT...
00:08:14 Guest THEY WERE RESPONDING WHEN THE SECOND PLANE HAD. THEY WERE IN CAPE COD, MASSACHUSETTS, THEY REMEMBERED...
00:08:50 Host IF THEY HAD NOT BEEN ORDERED TO STAND DOWN COULD SOME OTHER PEOPLE --
00:08:54 Guest THEY ARE CONVINCED THEY WOULD HAVE SAVED SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THE NORTH TOWER.
00:09:00 Host WAS ANYBODY HELD ACCOUNTABLE?
00:09:02 Guest IT IS THE CHAOS OF THE MOMENT. WHAT HAPPENED THEN IS THE SMOKE TOWER CREATED PANIC. AFTER THIS PLANE...
00:09:43 Host SAVITT GAVE PEOPLE ANOTHER WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THE AREA
00:09:49 Guest MOST PEOPLE -- IGER WITHIN NEW YORK AND MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND 80% OF PEAK WAS DISCONNECTED FROM THE...
00:10:02 Host HAS THERE EVER BEEN IN THERE A TIME EVACUATION OF THAT MANY. PEOPLE IN THAT PERGOLA TIME?
00:10:09 Guest THIS IS THE LARGEST. IT'S WHAT THEY DO. THEY ARE TRAINED TO RESPOND AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES...
00:10:27 Host HOW DID THEY EVEN -- THIS ODD COLLECTION OF VESSELS HOW DID THEY LET THEM KNOW THEY SHOULD GO THEM...
00:10:35 Guest ON THE MARINE RADIO. THE COAST GUARD AND THE MAIN PORT OF THE COAST GUARD IS AN OFFICER AND THEY PUT...
00:11:04 Host THIS IS THE COAST GUARD STRIKE TEAM.
00:11:07 Guest THERE ARE THREE TEAMS THAT RESPONSE, HAZARDOUS, WASTE, OTHER DISASTERS, AND THEY ARRIVED AND THE IMMEDIATE...
00:11:45 Host WE NOW WITH THE PASSAGE OF TIME THERE WERE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS RESULTED FROM --
00:11:51 Guest LOTS OF RESPIRATORY DISEASE AS A RESULT OF THE REST OF THE GOVERNMENT NOT RESPONDING AT THE TIME....
00:11:59 Host WHY DID THE COASTGUARD MODEL THE EPA TO GO AS --
00:12:02 Guest THERE WAS SOME RESPONSE KARL ROVE THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHERS DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE PANIC AND THAT...
00:12:33 Host WE ARE TALKING TO DAVID HELVARG. HE'S WRITTEN A NEW BOOK CALLED "RESCUE WARRIORS: U.S. COAST GUARD,...
00:13:04 Guest I TALKED TO THE CEO AT THE STATION AND HE'S NEVER GOTTEN AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE COULD HAVE...
00:13:11 Host AND THE HELICOPTER PILOT I'M SURE FEELS THE SAME WAY.
00:13:15 Guest I TALKED TO ONE OF THE TWO AND, YOU KNOW, THEY TRY TO GET BY. ONE OF THE SURF AND RUNS THE SCHOOL...
00:13:57 Host IT'S ALL -- HERE WE GO. (music)(music)
00:14:09 Host WELCOME BACK. I AM SUSAN PAGE OF USA TODAY SITTING IN FOR GHANIAN. SITTING WITH ME IN THE STUDIO IS...
00:14:28 Guest WELL, THEY ARE THE SMALLEST AND LEAST KNOWN OF THE ARMED SERVICES AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY...
00:15:30 Host DO PEOPLE IN THE COAST GUARD PHILIP THEY'RE FORGOTTEN AND DON'T GET THE CREDIT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF...
00:15:38 Guest I THINK THEY FEEL THAT WAY BUT A KIND OF SET UP AND LIVE WITH IT. THEY GET CREDIT FROM EACH OTHER...
00:16:37 Host TALKED BEFORE THE BREAK ABOUT THE REMARKABLE ROLE THE COAST GUARD PLAYED ON 9/11. TELL US HOW THE...
00:16:48 Guest YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER BECAUSE OF THEIR ORPHANAGES, LACK OF SUPPORT AND MISS PLACEMENT, THEY WERE GOING...
00:18:26 Host YOU USED THE WORD DUCKSCRUBBERS.
00:18:28 Guest THEY ARE THE GUYS THAT DO THE FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT, THE FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL ...
00:18:43 Host YOU ALSO WRITE ABOUT SERVE MEN. WHO ARE SERVED IN?
00:18:48 Guest OF COURSE THERE ARE SEVERAL -- AND NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO ARE ALSO DESIGNATED SERVE MEN. THESE ARE THE...
00:19:28 Host WE HAVE AN E-MAIL THAT SAYS SHE IS A KATRINA IRAQI AND SAYS THANK UPC WE REMEMBER THE COAST GUARD....
00:19:44 Caller ACKLEY HE JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE...
00:20:29 Host THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE CALL.
00:20:33 Guest I THINK THE COAST GUARD WAS AND IS SOMEWHAT INSULATED BECAUSE AS I SAY IT IS BOTH WILL ENFORCEMENT...
00:21:04 Host WITHIN THE COAST GUARD WAS A POPULAR OR UNPOPULAR TO BE PUT IN THE HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT?
00:21:11 Guest THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SAY ABOUT IT. THEY WENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WHERE THEY...
00:22:05 Host WE HAVE A CALL FROM LITTLE ROCK ARKANSAS. YOU'RE ON THE AIR.
00:22:08 Caller THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WRITING THE BOOK. I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT WOMEN IN THE COAST GUARD ABOUT...
00:23:07 Host SO YOU SERVED IN THE
00:23:08 Guest YES.
00:23:09 Host HOW LONG DID YOU
00:23:12 Guest
00:23:14 Caller IT WAS A SPECIAL PROGRAM. I WAS ONLY ALLOWED TO JOIN IN 1965 FOR ONE YEAR OF ACTIVE DUTY FOR TRAINING...
00:23:52 Host WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE COAST GUARD?
00:23:58 Caller THIS WAS THE PROBLEM. WE WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE A STOREKEEPER AND WE COULDN'T -- WE HAD TO STAY ON...
00:24:35 Guest THEY ARE SWIMMERS.
00:24:37 Host THANK YOU FOR CALLING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
00:24:41 Guest YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. SINCE THE 70'S WHEN A FULLY INTEGRATED. THIS IS ONE OF THE ARMED...
00:25:27 Host WHO TENDS TO BE DRAWN TO SERVE AS OF THE COAST GUARD?
00:25:30 Guest IT IS A MIX AND DEPENDS ON THE TIME CERTAINLY AFTER 9/11 THERE WAS A LOT OF PATRIOTIC RESPONSE. I...
00:27:00 Host IM SUSAN AND YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE DONNER AND SHOW. WE ARE TAKING CALLS, 1-800-435-8850. SCOTT...
00:27:13 Caller I WAS IN FOR 25 YEARS FROM 78 TO 2004. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS, DAVID, FOR BRINGING ATTENTION...
00:27:25 Host WHAT DID YOU DO IN THE COAST GUARD?
00:27:26 Unidentified Speaker guest
00:27:27 Caller I STARTED AS A SEAMAN ON A SHIP IN MISSISSIPPI AND WORKED MY WAY UP TO BECOME A PERSONNEL TYPE OF...
00:28:10 Host WE WERE TALKING JUST A MOMENT AGO WHAT DRAWS PEOPLE TO ENLIST IN THE COAST GUARD. WHAT DREW YOU AND?...
00:28:18 Caller MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN THE COAST GUARD BACK IN WORLD WAR II. OF LISTENING TO HIM TALK ABOUT IT IS...
00:28:42 Host THE SUBTITLE IS AMERICA'S FORGOTTEN HEROES.
00:28:52 Caller YOU SEE THESE MARINES AND NINE LETTERS IN YOU SEE SO YOU KNOW IT IS ONE OF THE ARMED SERVICES, BUT...
00:29:30 Host THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
00:29:33 Guest THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. THEY WERE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE LBJ'S WANTED DEPARTMENT...
00:30:35 Host WE HAVE A CALL FROM WATERTOWN, ROBERT, MRS. HE FELT THE COAST GUARD SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED THE...
00:30:50 Guest NO. THERE IS TALK OF EXPANDING THE MISSION IS ESSENTIALLY EVEN THOUGH THEY DO CALABRIA AND HAVE A...
00:31:32 Host WE ARE TALKING TO DAVID HELVARG. HE'S WRITTEN A NEW BOOK CALLED "RESCUE WARRIORS." HE'S WRITTEN PREVIOUS...
00:32:11 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. IN ALL PAUL CONVERSATIONS [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
00:32:33 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS THE ONE I WANT, HANG ON. WE STILL HAVE TIME.
00:32:39 Host OKAY. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] I LIKE THIS ONE, DON'T TAKE THAT ONE.
00:33:03 Guest JUST SOME OF THE STATE AND -- [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] AY, MIGHTY! [LAUGHTER] ONE OF THE GUYS SAID HE...
00:34:10 Host WELCOME BACK. I AM SUSAN PAGE WITH USA TODAY SITTING IN FOR A DYING MAN REHM TALKING THIS HOUR WITH...
00:35:29 Guest YEAH, IT'S, AS I SAY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A RANGE OF FUNCTIONS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW,...
00:35:44 Host HERE'S AN E-MAIL FROM KEVIN FROM OKLAHOMA. MY DAD SERVED IN THE ATLANTIC ON THE SEA CLOUD, CONVERTED...
00:35:58 Guest THE FOUGHT IN EVERY WAR IN HISTORY AND IN WORLD WAR TO THE MAJOR RULES WERE ESCORTS FOR THE LIBERTY...
00:36:51 Host WE HAVE WAR GOING ON WITH U.S. FORCES IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. WHAT IS THE COAST GUARD ROLE IN THOSE...
00:36:59 Guest SMALL BIOSECURITY. THEY HAVE 110-FOOT CUTTERS GUARDING THE TERMINALS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ATTACHMENTS,...
00:37:38 Host WE HAVE A CALLER FROM WHITE HOUSE POINT FLORIDA AND IT SEEMS TO APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TOPIC. WELCOME...
00:37:46 Caller YES, MA'AM.
00:37:47 Host DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
00:37:53 Caller JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE COAST GUARD OXALATE, THE CIVILIAN ARMS. I OWNED A BOAT. I LIVE ON...
00:38:17 Host TELL US WHAT YOU DID IN THE COAST GUARD OXALATE.
00:38:22 Caller I AM IN THE WATER ON FLORIDA. ALL I HAD A RADIO STATION IN MY HOME. OPERATED MY OWN BOAT AND USED...
00:38:41 Host DID YOU RESCUE VERY MANY PEOPLE?
00:38:44 Guest
00:38:45 Caller AND SAM, SAM, DEFINITELY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
00:38:48 Caller ALSO AT ONE TIME I WAS THE COMMANDER OF THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY FLOTILLA IN FLORIDA.
00:38:55 Host IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING HOW OLD ARE YOU?
00:38:59 Caller I WILL BE 90 IN OCTOBER.
00:39:01 Host THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR GIVING THE CALL. THE COAST GUARD BOX OF A REPUTED
00:39:07 Guest IS AN AMAZINGLY ONE OF THE COAST GUARD KIND OF MULTIPLIES FORCES WITH 30,000 CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS....
00:40:05 Host ONE OF THE BIG JOBS THE COAST GUARD DOES NOW IS INTERDICT DRUGS. TALK UP THEIR EFFORTS ON THAT FRONT....
00:40:13 Guest THEY ARE ALL THERE CAPTURING MORE COCAINE FOR EXAMPLE THAN THE DEA, THE FBI, STATE, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT...
00:41:22 Host BECAUSE THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR THE COAST GUARD?
00:41:25 Guest IT IS UNDER TITLE TEN AND 14 BOTH WILL ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY SO IT CAN DO THINGS LIKE MIGRANT INTRODUCTION...
00:41:54 Host THAT MEANS THE RULES FOR THE COAST GUARD THEY CAN DO IF THERE'S A FEDERAL DECLARATION BUT THEY CAN...
00:42:04 Guest ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HAPPENING WITHOUT A LOT OF PUBLIC AWARENESS IS USE OF FORCE WHICH IS ALL...
00:44:01 Host LET'S GO BACK TO THE PHONE AND TALK TO MATTHEW FROM GRAND RAPIDS MICHIGAN. MATTHEW, THANK YOU FOR...
00:44:10 Caller THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND I WANT TO THANK YOU. WE LOVED [INAUDIBLE] I AM RIGHT OUTSIDE COAST GUARD...
00:44:27 Guest UNFORTUNATELY -- I GOT TO THE ANNUAL COASTGUARD FESTIVAL THERE. IT'S TREMENDOUS. TELL US ABOUT.
00:44:39 Caller WE GET TO CELEBRATE WITH THE CITY THAT DOES A LOT OF WORK FOR US AND HELP PROMOTE THE COAST GUARD...
00:45:37 Guest WE HAD -- [INAUDIBLE] I DESCRIBE A COAST MAN LOST IN 2004 WHEN THE FIRST SET THE SECURITY BARRIERS...
00:46:01 Host SO MATTHEW, YOU SERVE THE COAST GUARD YOURSELF?
00:46:04 Caller I SERVED FOR A WHILE. ACTUALLY IT HAS BEEN THE MOST COMPETITIVE BRANCH -- I APPLIED TO BE AN OFFICER....
00:47:05 Host MATTHEW, THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE COAST GUARD AND THE ARMY.
00:47:10 Guest YEAH, AND AS I SAY, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH UNDERFUNDED AGENCY THAT HAS MORE MISSIONS THAN...
00:47:38 Host IM SUSAN PAGE AND YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE DONNER AND REHM SHOW. WE HAVE AN E-MAIL THAT TALKS ABOUT...
00:48:20 Guest IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM, BOTH EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES ONSHORE AND OFFSHORE. YOU HAVE MOST OF THESE COVERS...
00:49:03 Host YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE GREAT VARIETY OF TASKS THE COAST GUARD CHOICE TO FILL. ONE OF THEM IS...
00:49:14 Guest SINCE I SPOKE TO A PORT DIRECTOR IN BOSTON, SHE SAID, COASTIE SHE SAID THE FIRST TENANT WAS EXXON...
00:50:47 Host LET'S CLOSE WITH AN E-MAIL FROM COLUMN. NOT A DAY GOES BY ON THE BANKS WE WILL SEE AND APPRECIATE...
00:51:20 Guest THANK YOU, SUSAN. REZKO I AM SUSAN PAGE OF USA TODAY SITTING IN FOR DONNER AND REHM. THANKS FOR LISTENING....
00:51:46 Guest A LOT OF MY COMPETITION IS THE SINBAD OF THE COAST GUARD ABOUT A MASCOT IN WORLD WAR II, ESCORT VESSEL....
00:51:54 Host HOW LONG AGO DID THAT
00:51:57 Guest 1945. THE GARDEN AND IS THE FIRST MOVIE SINCE THE DISNEY COMEDY OF 1970, MANTLE LAUGHED BOATS. [LAUGHTER]...
00:52:14 Host WELL, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD --
00:52:17 Unidentified Speaker DAVID HELVARG IS A JOURNALIST, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND CONTRIBUTING EDITOR ON NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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