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THE UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MUSEUM HAS UNDERTAKEN A RESEARCH PROJECT, AND IT IS IN BOOK FORM. THIS... |
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THIS IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CAMPS AND GHETTOS THAT DETERMINES DURING THE NAZI PERIOD... |
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HOW MANY HAVE YOU FOUND? |
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WE HAVE FOUND, WELL WITHIN THE VOLUMES COME WERE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 20000. 20000 CAMPS. |
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WERE YOU SURPRISED AT THE NEVER? |
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WHY? SMACK WHEN I CAME ONBOARD IN 2000, THE PEOPLE THAT CREATED THE PROJECT, HISTORIANS THEMSELVES... |
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WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES? |
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THE BIG ONES ARE THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS. PLUS THE MANY SUB CAMPS AROUND THEM. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS... |
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WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF A FORCED LABOR CAMP? |
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IN ADDITION TO A CONCENTRATION CAMP, WHICH WERE MORE OR LESS PUNITIVE, REALLY PUNITIVE IN NATURE,... |
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NOT JEWISH NECESSARILY. |
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NOT NECESSARILY. THE WERE PUT IN A SEPARATE SYSTEM. WITH A FORCED LABOR CAMP OR TO SUPPORT THIS WAR... |
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AND YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT POW CAMPS. |
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JUST. |
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AND THOSE ARE CODDLED IN THESE ENCYCLOPEDIAS ALSO? |
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THEY WILL. |
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HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU FOUND SO FAR? |
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WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1000 MAIN POW CAMPS. THE POW CAMPS ALSO HAD SUB CAMPS AND THE NUMBERS THERE... |
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YOU MENTIONED.COM. HOW IS IT DEVELOPED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE 124 SUB CAMPS? HOW WAS THAT ORGANIZED?... |
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THIS WAS A GIVEN FUNCTION MOST OF THE WAR ECONOMY. SOME OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS WERE ORIGINALLY... |
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ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ESTIMATE WERE PROCESSED THROUGH THESE 20000 CAMPS? |
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WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OVERALL ESTIMATE. THERE WERE, AT THE HEIGHT OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMP SYSTEM... |
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HOW DID THE SYSTEM DEVELOPED? HOW DID THE GERMANS DEVELOP THIS SYSTEM? WASN'T DONE BY ONE BUREAUCRACY... |
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NO. I MEAN, I USED THE WORD SYSTEM AS WELL FOR LACK OF ANYTHING BETTER, BUT STRICTLY SPEAKING YOU... |
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BUT NOBODY IN CHARGE, SAY, IN BERLIN WHO IS IN CHARGE OF SETTING ALL THIS UP? |
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NO. ALL RUN BY DIFFERENT BUREAUCRACIES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WAS IN A SENSE PART OF A NAZI... |
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WHAT WERE THE FIRST OF CAMPS THAT THE NAZI DEVELOPED? |
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THESE WERE THE SO-CALLED WHAT HISTORIANS CALL THE EARLY CAMPS. THEY WERE DEVELOPED ON AN AD HOC BASIS... |
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WHERE DOES THE 1940 TO FIND A SOLUTION MEETING FIT INTO ALL OF THIS? DID THAT DEVELOP MORE CAMPS? |
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I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CONFERENCE DEVELOP MORE CAMPS DIRECTLY. THIS IS REALLY AN IMPLEMENTATION... |
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WHAT HAVE YOU DISCOVERED ABOUT LIFE IN THESE CAMPS? AT THE VARIOUS LEVELS. |
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IT CARRIED. IT BURIED I THINK MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE REALIZE. IF YOU WERE AN ENGLISH OR AMERICAN PRISONER... |
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THREE AND A THIRD MILLION? |
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GETS. ABOUT TWO AND A THIRD MILLION WAR DEAD BY THE SPRING OF 1942. SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THEM... |
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HOW MANY EXTERMINATION CENTERS HAVE YOU DISCOVERED THE? |
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WE COUNT SIX. BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS NARROW DEFINITION OF AN EXTERMINATION CENTER. BUT ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE... |
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REALLY? WHO WAS THERE? |
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POLITICAL PRISONERS AT FIRST. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF THE SS CONCENTRATION CAMPS. IT WAS CREATED ALONG... |
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YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT GHETTOS. HOW DO YOU DEFINE A GHETTO AND HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU... |
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WE DEFINE A GATO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA, WE'VE HAD TO BE USE A RATHER PRACTICAL APPROACH... |
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HOW MANY HAVE YOU DISCOVERED? |
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ABOUT 1200. |
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ABOUT 1200. HOW DID YOU DO THIS RESEARCH? |
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WE HAVE NOT DONE ALL THAT MUCH OF IT. WE DEPEND LARGELY ON OUTSIDE CONTRIBUTORS. NOW SAYING THAT THERE... |
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AND HALIBUT AN THE? |
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FOR A MAIN CONCENTRATION CAMP WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2500 WORDS. NOT A LOT. THAT IS ABOUT 10 DOUBLESPACED... |
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GEOFF MEGARGEE IS THE EDITOR OF THE FIRST, OF THIS FIRST VOLUME, PART ONE AND TWO. HOW MANY VOLUMES... |
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SEVEN. |
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YES. |
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THE SPECIFIC VOLUME IS ABOUT? AT THE SPECIFIC BARN THAT IS OUT NOW IS ABOUT? |
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THE SUBJECT MATTER? THIS COVERS THE EARLY CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT I TALKED ABOUT. AND THE MAIN CONCENTRATION... |
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WHAT WILL THE FUTURE VOLUMES BE? |
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THEY ARE ORGANIZED BY TYPE OF CANDIDATE WE GOT THAT GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE SYSTEM... |
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WERE THE FOLKS WHO DID A LOT OF THE RESEARCH, DID THEY FIND THINGS, ANYTHING IN THE GERMAN ARCHIVES?... |
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YES. ESPECIALLY FOR VOLUME ONE. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE INFORMATION COMES OUT OF. |
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IS IT DOCUMENTED, THESE CAN'T? |
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IT DEPENDS ON THE CAMP BUT GENERALLY, YES. |
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WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENT WOULD YOU FIND? |
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WE WOULD HAVE DOCUMENT AND SETTING UP THE CAMPS, DOCUMENTS TESTIFYING TO WHO WAS SENT THERE, HOW MANY... |
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WHAT IS YOUR GOAL WITH |
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IS REALLY TWOFOLD. ONE IS TO PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT AS MANY OF THESE PLACES AS WAS WE POSSIBLY... |
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN |
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ALMOST 10 YEARS. IT WILL BE 10 YEARS IN JANUARY. |
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HOW MUCH LONGER WILL YOU GO? |
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WHERE HOPING TO GET THE WHOLE THING DONE BY 2018. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON VARIOUS VOLUMES IN TANDEM.... |
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WHO DO YOU THINK ONCE THESE? |
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WELL, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL PURCHASE THEM WILL PRIMARILY BE LIBRARIES. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. IT'S NOT... |
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ARE THEY AVAILABLE AT THE MUSEUM? |
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GAS GAS. |
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AT THE WEBSITE? |
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IT IS U.S. H. AND M..ORG. |
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U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL |
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YES. BUT ABBREVIATED. |
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GEOFF MEGARGEE IS THE EDITOR |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.