Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933-1945

Aug 26, 2009

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Geoffrey Megargee, editor of the Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933-1945, was interviewed about the Nazi's system of camps and ghettos in Germany and allied or satellite states. He talked about the research done by his team and the identification of more than 20,000 such sites, several times more than anticipated at the project's .. Read More
Geoffrey Megargee, editor of the Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933-1945, was interviewed about the Nazi's system of camps and ghettos in Germany and allied or satellite states. He talked about the research done by his team and the identification of more than 20,000 such sites, several times more than anticipated at the project's outset. Mr. Megargee also talked about the release of the fist volume, The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933-1945, Volume 1 (Indiana University Press; June 2009), after ten years of research. When complete, the full seven-volume series would provide the first comprehensive survey of all known Nazi camps and ghettos. He listed the contents of the various volumes, due to be released every two years until 2018. Geoffrey Megargee, an applied research scholar at the Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, is the author of several books, including Inside Hitler's High Command. He was interviewed in the BookTV studio.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:12 Unidentified Speaker THE UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MUSEUM HAS UNDERTAKEN A RESEARCH PROJECT, AND IT IS IN BOOK FORM. THIS...
00:00:23 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CAMPS AND GHETTOS THAT DETERMINES DURING THE NAZI PERIOD...
00:00:32 Unidentified Speaker HOW MANY HAVE YOU FOUND?
00:00:35 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE FOUND, WELL WITHIN THE VOLUMES COME WERE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 20000. 20000 CAMPS.
00:00:41 Unidentified Speaker WERE YOU SURPRISED AT THE NEVER?
00:00:44 Unidentified Speaker WHY? SMACK WHEN I CAME ONBOARD IN 2000, THE PEOPLE THAT CREATED THE PROJECT, HISTORIANS THEMSELVES...
00:01:18 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES?
00:01:20 Unidentified Speaker THE BIG ONES ARE THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS. PLUS THE MANY SUB CAMPS AROUND THEM. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS...
00:01:49 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF A FORCED LABOR CAMP?
00:01:53 Unidentified Speaker IN ADDITION TO A CONCENTRATION CAMP, WHICH WERE MORE OR LESS PUNITIVE, REALLY PUNITIVE IN NATURE,...
00:02:11 Unidentified Speaker NOT JEWISH NECESSARILY.
00:02:15 Unidentified Speaker NOT NECESSARILY. THE WERE PUT IN A SEPARATE SYSTEM. WITH A FORCED LABOR CAMP OR TO SUPPORT THIS WAR...
00:02:27 Unidentified Speaker AND YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT POW CAMPS.
00:02:28 Unidentified Speaker JUST.
00:02:29 Unidentified Speaker AND THOSE ARE CODDLED IN THESE ENCYCLOPEDIAS ALSO?
00:02:33 Unidentified Speaker THEY WILL.
00:02:34 Unidentified Speaker HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU FOUND SO FAR?
00:02:38 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1000 MAIN POW CAMPS. THE POW CAMPS ALSO HAD SUB CAMPS AND THE NUMBERS THERE...
00:02:50 Unidentified Speaker YOU MENTIONED.COM. HOW IS IT DEVELOPED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE 124 SUB CAMPS? HOW WAS THAT ORGANIZED?...
00:02:59 Unidentified Speaker THIS WAS A GIVEN FUNCTION MOST OF THE WAR ECONOMY. SOME OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS WERE ORIGINALLY...
00:03:56 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ESTIMATE WERE PROCESSED THROUGH THESE 20000 CAMPS?
00:04:01 Unidentified Speaker WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OVERALL ESTIMATE. THERE WERE, AT THE HEIGHT OF THE CONCENTRATION CAMP SYSTEM...
00:04:40 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID THE SYSTEM DEVELOPED? HOW DID THE GERMANS DEVELOP THIS SYSTEM? WASN'T DONE BY ONE BUREAUCRACY...
00:04:47 Unidentified Speaker NO. I MEAN, I USED THE WORD SYSTEM AS WELL FOR LACK OF ANYTHING BETTER, BUT STRICTLY SPEAKING YOU...
00:05:35 Unidentified Speaker BUT NOBODY IN CHARGE, SAY, IN BERLIN WHO IS IN CHARGE OF SETTING ALL THIS UP?
00:05:39 Unidentified Speaker NO. ALL RUN BY DIFFERENT BUREAUCRACIES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WAS IN A SENSE PART OF A NAZI...
00:06:06 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WERE THE FIRST OF CAMPS THAT THE NAZI DEVELOPED?
00:06:09 Unidentified Speaker THESE WERE THE SO-CALLED WHAT HISTORIANS CALL THE EARLY CAMPS. THEY WERE DEVELOPED ON AN AD HOC BASIS...
00:06:50 Unidentified Speaker WHERE DOES THE 1940 TO FIND A SOLUTION MEETING FIT INTO ALL OF THIS? DID THAT DEVELOP MORE CAMPS?
00:07:02 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CONFERENCE DEVELOP MORE CAMPS DIRECTLY. THIS IS REALLY AN IMPLEMENTATION...
00:07:47 Unidentified Speaker WHAT HAVE YOU DISCOVERED ABOUT LIFE IN THESE CAMPS? AT THE VARIOUS LEVELS.
00:07:54 Unidentified Speaker IT CARRIED. IT BURIED I THINK MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE REALIZE. IF YOU WERE AN ENGLISH OR AMERICAN PRISONER...
00:09:03 Unidentified Speaker THREE AND A THIRD MILLION?
00:09:05 Unidentified Speaker GETS. ABOUT TWO AND A THIRD MILLION WAR DEAD BY THE SPRING OF 1942. SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THEM...
00:09:33 Unidentified Speaker HOW MANY EXTERMINATION CENTERS HAVE YOU DISCOVERED THE?
00:09:36 Unidentified Speaker WE COUNT SIX. BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS NARROW DEFINITION OF AN EXTERMINATION CENTER. BUT ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE...
00:10:10 Unidentified Speaker REALLY? WHO WAS THERE?
00:10:14 Unidentified Speaker POLITICAL PRISONERS AT FIRST. THIS WAS THE FIRST OF THE SS CONCENTRATION CAMPS. IT WAS CREATED ALONG...
00:10:58 Unidentified Speaker YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT GHETTOS. HOW DO YOU DEFINE A GHETTO AND HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU...
00:11:05 Unidentified Speaker WE DEFINE A GATO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA, WE'VE HAD TO BE USE A RATHER PRACTICAL APPROACH...
00:12:24 Unidentified Speaker HOW MANY HAVE YOU DISCOVERED?
00:12:25 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT 1200.
00:12:26 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT 1200. HOW DID YOU DO THIS RESEARCH?
00:12:29 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE NOT DONE ALL THAT MUCH OF IT. WE DEPEND LARGELY ON OUTSIDE CONTRIBUTORS. NOW SAYING THAT THERE...
00:13:39 Unidentified Speaker AND HALIBUT AN THE?
00:13:41 Unidentified Speaker FOR A MAIN CONCENTRATION CAMP WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2500 WORDS. NOT A LOT. THAT IS ABOUT 10 DOUBLESPACED...
00:14:43 Unidentified Speaker GEOFF MEGARGEE IS THE EDITOR OF THE FIRST, OF THIS FIRST VOLUME, PART ONE AND TWO. HOW MANY VOLUMES...
00:14:53 Unidentified Speaker SEVEN.
00:14:54 Unidentified Speaker YES.
00:14:57 Unidentified Speaker THE SPECIFIC VOLUME IS ABOUT? AT THE SPECIFIC BARN THAT IS OUT NOW IS ABOUT?
00:15:03 Unidentified Speaker THE SUBJECT MATTER? THIS COVERS THE EARLY CONCENTRATION CAMPS THAT I TALKED ABOUT. AND THE MAIN CONCENTRATION...
00:15:15 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WILL THE FUTURE VOLUMES BE?
00:15:18 Unidentified Speaker THEY ARE ORGANIZED BY TYPE OF CANDIDATE WE GOT THAT GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE SYSTEM...
00:15:54 Unidentified Speaker WERE THE FOLKS WHO DID A LOT OF THE RESEARCH, DID THEY FIND THINGS, ANYTHING IN THE GERMAN ARCHIVES?...
00:16:00 Unidentified Speaker YES. ESPECIALLY FOR VOLUME ONE. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE INFORMATION COMES OUT OF.
00:16:07 Unidentified Speaker IS IT DOCUMENTED, THESE CAN'T?
00:16:11 Unidentified Speaker IT DEPENDS ON THE CAMP BUT GENERALLY, YES.
00:16:13 Unidentified Speaker WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENT WOULD YOU FIND?
00:16:15 Unidentified Speaker WE WOULD HAVE DOCUMENT AND SETTING UP THE CAMPS, DOCUMENTS TESTIFYING TO WHO WAS SENT THERE, HOW MANY...
00:16:38 Unidentified Speaker WHAT IS YOUR GOAL WITH
00:16:39 Unidentified Speaker IS REALLY TWOFOLD. ONE IS TO PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT AS MANY OF THESE PLACES AS WAS WE POSSIBLY...
00:17:35 Unidentified Speaker HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
00:17:37 Unidentified Speaker ALMOST 10 YEARS. IT WILL BE 10 YEARS IN JANUARY.
00:17:42 Unidentified Speaker HOW MUCH LONGER WILL YOU GO?
00:17:44 Unidentified Speaker WHERE HOPING TO GET THE WHOLE THING DONE BY 2018. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON VARIOUS VOLUMES IN TANDEM....
00:17:59 Unidentified Speaker WHO DO YOU THINK ONCE THESE?
00:18:00 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL PURCHASE THEM WILL PRIMARILY BE LIBRARIES. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. IT'S NOT...
00:18:19 Unidentified Speaker ARE THEY AVAILABLE AT THE MUSEUM?
00:18:20 Unidentified Speaker GAS GAS.
00:18:22 Unidentified Speaker AT THE WEBSITE?
00:18:27 Unidentified Speaker IT IS U.S. H. AND M..ORG.
00:18:30 Unidentified Speaker U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL
00:18:31 Unidentified Speaker YES. BUT ABBREVIATED.
00:18:35 Unidentified Speaker GEOFF MEGARGEE IS THE EDITOR

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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