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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. |
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MY PLEASURE. |
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I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACIES AND IS A TWO FORMED JUST AFTER... |
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YOU HAVE ONE MISSILE INSTEAD OF HITTING A TARGET AND WIPING OUT THIS IS YOU HAVE A MISSILE GO HIGH... |
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NO. |
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BUT YOU WOULD TRY THE ELECTRIC GRID TAKES PLACE SUDDENLY THEY FIND OUT THAT NOTHING ELECTRICAL WORKS... |
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IT IS ALL GONE. IT IS A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS. SOME PEOPLE TALK ABOUT A THREE WEB BEEN DETONATION ONE... |
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EXPLAIN WHY NOT BECAUSE OF THE FORCE OF THE EXPLOSION BUT BECAUSE OF THE ABSENCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE... |
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LET'S TALK ABOUT PLANES WE'RE DOING THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW BUT THIS MOMENT THERE IS ABOUT A QUARTER... |
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IN YOUR NOVEL THE PRESIDENT IS IN AIR FORCE ONE AND IT FALLS OUT OF THE SKY. |
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I HAVE NOT ONLY WORKED WITH THE UNCLASSIFIED AFFIRMATION. SO I CANNOT SPEAK DIRECTLY AS TO WHAT CONDITION... |
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I DO NOT WANT TO JUMP TOO FAR AHEAD BUT LET'S JUST MENTIONED THIS AND WE WILL COME BACK TO A. OF... |
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LET'S GO WITH THAT ANALOGY AIRCRAFT CARRIER WORLD WERE TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DEFENDING ITSELF FROM... |
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EXACTLY WE ALL LOVE THE FACT RIO BLACKBERRY'S AN iPOD AND OUR CARS ARE MORE COMPUTERIZED. |
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BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IT IS WEIRD DEVELOP A MORE SOPHISTICATED BUT MORE VULNERABLE SOCIETY THAN WE... |
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YOU AND I ARE AWARE OF THIS, MOST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY WHO DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT, AN IMPORTANT... |
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NOW YOU'RE GETTING TO THE CORE ISSUE THAT IS PART OF THE BOOK. THERE HAS BEEN TESTING GOING ON FROM... |
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THE REASON TO USE A BARGE YOU DO NOT NEEDED LONG-RANGE MISSILE WITH THE UNINCORPORATED SITE MISSILES... |
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE COLD WAR PARADOX THE WORLD I GREW... |
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I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WAS IN EXCHANGE DID IN THE SOVIET UNION YEARS AGO AND MANY OF THE SOVIETS WERE... |
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I HAD A WONDERFUL FRIEND, ONE OF THE OLD GODFATHERS OF SCIENCE FICTION AND HAVE A GREAT STORY HOW... |
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WE HAVE HEARD THE CRY IF THIS WEAPON IS SO TERRIBLE WE HERCULES A BIG CATAPULT IS SO TERRIBLE IT HAS... |
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IT ALSO MAKES MAXIMUM USE OF A SINGLE WEAPON OR A SMALL NUMBER 214 A LONG TIME RIGHT TO. |
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IT WAS THOUGHT OF 100 NUCLEAR WEAPONS WERE LAUNCHED WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND BUT ONE OR TWO WE... |
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A RESERVOIR. |
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IMAGINE WASHING T8 -- WASHINGTON D.C. IN 24 HOURS WITH NO WATER AND IMAGINE WASHINGTON D.C. 21 DAYS... |
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THIS DESERVES MENTION BEYOND AN ATTACK A PURPOSEFUL ATTACK THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU TALK... |
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LET'S BE SPECIFIC THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST EMP ATTACK WHETHER... |
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THAT IS RIGHT. |
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WE'RE NOT TARGETING THEIR GRID AND IT APPEARS THAT CONGRESS IS ON TRACK TO SPEND LESS ON MISSILE DEFENSE,... |
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ONE MORE QUESTION THE NABLUS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM OUR GUEST. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, DO WE NOT? LET... |
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AND THE PEBBLES PROGRAM IS GENERATIONS AHEAD OF WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND EIGHTIES NOW IT IS PRECISION... |
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BUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE MISSILES DEBT INTO SPACE YOU DESTROY THEM BEFORE THEY CAN HIT THEIR... |
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SON MAY REMEMBER THE RAND CORPORATION IN THE '50S AND '60S WITH FOUR GAMES IN THE AREA AND AGAIN WE... |
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I CANNOT INTRODUCE EVERYONE BUT I WILL INTRODUCE TO VERY BRIEFLY AND ASK FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS... |
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I THINK RELEVANT TO THE QUESTION AS AN OLD CRIMINOLOGIST THE ARMS CONTROL APPROACHED THE PROBLEM WORKS... |
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BILL, MY NAME IS PETER AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INSPIRATION TO THE LUNCH WE HAD ON CAPITOL... |
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WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING ONE THING? HOW MUCH YOU TALKING ABOUT PER YEAR AS AN INSURANCE POLICY? |
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DANNY THOMPSON'S PEOPLE HAVE ESTIMATED WE COULD DO NOT EVERYTHING BUT WE COULD ENSURE THE SURVIVAL... |
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I HAVE TO RESPOND TO ONE THING AND I AM NOT TRYING TO DO THIS AS SOME SORT OF OVER DRAMATIZED EMOTIONAL... |
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PETER, DO YOU KNOW OR HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE WHERE THE CONGRESS IS ON THIS ISSUE? FIRST OF ALL,... |
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I WOULD SAY THERE IS A SENSE AMONG REPUBLICANS THIS IS A DEFTLY, SERIOUS ISSUE. THE PROBLEM COMES... |
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THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE EVENT. KLEEB MIXUP. |
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BENNY THOMPSON WAS CONVINCED BY ROSCOE BARTLETT. THEY ARE GOOD FRIENDS. HE'S FROM MISSISSIPPI. HE'S... |
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WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT, AN INTERESTING FACT THAT I BELIEVE IS CORRECT IS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY... |
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OF COURSE. WELL, AGAIN, WHAT'S GOING BACK TO CARING TO NEEDN'T. WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY IRAN OR NORTH... |
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SO YOU'RE JUST -- |
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WE BETTER DO IT NOW. |
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IT'S A FORMER MODERNIZATION BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ANTIQUATED ELECTRICAL GRID AT THIS POINT PATCHED TOGETHER... |
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ALSO A SYSTEM BUILT AT WILL AND WE ARE DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OF HUMANITY WE DON'T... |
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YOU KNOW, SIR, IN RESPONSE TO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A MULTILAYERED SYSTEM. LET ME DRAW QUICK ANALOGY.... |
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HE'S GOT A QUESTION RIGHT THERE. RIGHT BEHIND YOU, MARK. |
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MY NAME IS PAUL JOURNALIST, A JOURNALIST AND THESE MIGHT BE SICK QUESTIONS -- -- BASIC QUESTIONS.... |
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THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. WHEN I WAS RESEARCHING THIS BOOK THERE WAS A CORRELATION. THE BLAST ON A... |
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IT'S AN INVERSE CORRELATION. |
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IT'S AN INVERSE CORRELATION. REMEMBER TO GO TO FUSION YOU HAVE TO START WITH VISIONS OF IT IS A CHEAPER... |
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I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DID BRILLIANTLY IN YOUR NOVEL. EVERYTHING DOES STOP. MOST PEOPLE... |
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THERE IS ONE OF MY GREAT CONCERNS AS WELL ABOUT POST PERIOD EMP RETIREMENT. WE HAVE BEEN SINCE THE... |
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I AM NOT NECESSARILY IMPLYING ANYTHING. WE STAYED IN EUROPE BY A FEW YEARS AND HELP THEM REBUILD. ... |
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YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AMERICA THAT IS A THIRD WORLD BADLY WOUNDED THAT HAS FEW CAPABILITIES TO DEFEND... |
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IF I CAN TALK ABOUT ONE THING IN THE BOOK WHERE THE CHARACTERS TALKING SAID REMEMBER THE INFOMERCIALS... |
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AND IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE -- IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE, FRIGHTFUL TO IMAGINE AND IT HAS A RING OF SCIENCE... |
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LET ME GIVE AN ANALOGY. IS ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM A SMOKER? AT LEAST ONE PERSON. I ADMIT OCCASIONALLY... |
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FRANK GAFFNEY FOR THE |
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SERVER -- |
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MR. GAFFNEY, DR. GAFFNEY IS A PLEASURE. YOU'VE HELPED ME SO MUCH WITH |
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THANK YOU. VERY REMOTE. THANK YOU FOR DOING IT AND THE EFFECT IT'S OBVIOUSLY HAVING AND FOR PUTTING... |
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DR. GAFFNEY, I MUST HAVE TO DO -- I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING. REMEMBER IN THE OLD MOVIES. THERE IS AN... |
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THAT BRINGS TO THIS COROLLARY WHAT IS THE PLIGHT OF THE BEST HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD IF HOSPITALS... |
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JUST VERY QUICKLY I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE I WONDER WHY MORE PEOPLE HAVEN'T WRITTEN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED... |
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THAT WOULD BE THE SAME. |
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THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WHAT ABOUT ON NUCLEAR EMP AND THE CAPACITY FOR INDIVIDUALS, TERRORIST... |
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EXCEPTIONAL POINT. AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE. IT'S, REMEMBER SOME YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED... |
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ONE MORE QUESTION FROM PETER FEW COULD PULL THE MICROPHONE FROM BEHIND YOU AND AND THAT TO HIM. |
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TWO THINGS, THE NAVY DID A STUDY OF EXACTLY THIS PROBLEM OF TAKING BASICALLY A GIZMO THE SIZE OF THIS... |
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KNOW IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN FACT I WAS IN CUMBERLAND MARYLAND WITH ECKERT PUTTING TOGETHER... |
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WELL, MAYBE ON THAT NOTE I WILL MENTION JIM WOOLSEY IS A DISTINGUISHED TO THE FOUNDATION ON THE DEFENSE... |
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THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE] |
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WILLIAM FORSTCHEN IS A FACULTY FELLOW AND HISTORY PROFESSOR AT MONTEREY COLLEGE IN NORTH CAROLINA.... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
