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IT WAS REBEESED IN RESPONSE TO OUR LAW SUIT. AND IN MANY WAYS I THOUGHT IT WOULD PUT THE REST ON THESE... |
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WHAT YEAR WAS JUDICIAL WATCH FOUNDED? |
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IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1994. THE FOUNDING CHAIRMAN WAS LARRY CLAYMAN. SO WE'RE 15 YEARS THIS YEAR. AND... |
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WHEN DID YOU TAKE OVER? |
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I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT, -- I'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN AT JUDICIAL WATCH AND SEEN IT'S... |
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HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK THERE? |
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WE HAVE ABOUT 25. |
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TALKED TO MELANIE SLOAN LAST WEEK. SHE HAD 13 PEOPLE. WHAT'S YOUR BUDGET. |
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WE HAVE 25 PEOPLE, A BUDGET A LITTLE UNDER $10 MILLION THESE DAYS. |
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THE FUNDING THING, I WANT TO SHOW FIRST, YOU SAID THAT YOU STARTED BECAUSE OF BILL CLINTON. LET'S... |
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WHEN I WOULD TALK TO, SAY, MY PARENTS, ONLY TWO HOURS AWAY, EDUCATED PEOPLE, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW... |
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SO WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? |
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I WAS OVERJOID. I DANCED A LITTLE JIG. IT WAS THE BEST MOMENT. THERE WAS NOTHING WE'VE DONE AT CREW... |
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I'VE SEEN ON YOUR LIST, YOU HAVE A STRONG OPINION ABOUT TOM DELAY FOR OTHER REASON ORS THE SAME REASONS?... |
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I THINK TOM DELAY WAS A DISASTER IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENT ETHICS. AND WE WERE ALONE ON THE RIGHT IN... |
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YOU ALSO WENT AFTER CHENEY FOR WHERE WHAT REASONS? |
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WE SAW THEY HAD THIS ENERGY TASK FORCE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS GENERALLY SILLY BECAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN... |
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LET'S TALK SOME ABOUT YOUR OWN BACKGROUND. WHERE WERE YOU BORN? |
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IN NEW YORK, IN ROCKLAND COUNTY, NEW YORK, ABOUT 20 MILES NORTH OF NEW YORK CITY. |
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PASHTS ALIVE? |
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PARENTS ARE ALIVE. MY FATHER WAS A SUPERMARKET MANAGER, MY MOTHER WAS A HOME MAKER WHO BECAME A NURSE.... |
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BIG FAMILY? |
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HUGE FAMILY. ONE OF TEN. |
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YOU'RE ONE OF TEN? |
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I'M ONE OF TEN. |
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WHERE DO YOU FIT IN THE TEN? |
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I'M NUMBER SEVEN ON THE SCALE. EIGHT BOYS AND TWO GIRLS. AND THERE'S A BIG RAUCOUS FAMILY. PARENTS... |
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ASKED MELANIE SLOAN ABOUT THE FUNDING OF CREW. AND I WANT TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.... |
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WHO ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST DONORS YOU HAVE AND IS THERE A RESTRICTION ON HOW MUCH THEY CAN GIVE YOU?... |
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WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTION BUT I WOULD SAY OUR BIGGEST DONORS ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OPEN SOCIETY... |
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WHOSE ORGANIZATION IS THAT? |
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IT'S A FOUNDATION. BUT IT'S WELL KNOWN TO BE GEORGE SORROW S IS THE ONE WHO FUNDS IT. THE WALLACE... |
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YOU DO SEE A THREAD THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SIDES IN THIS WHERE A BIG DONOR LIKE GEORGE SOROST WILL... |
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HE HAS NEVER ASKED FOR ANYTHING AT ALL. I MEET WITH THE PROGRAM OFFICER FROM THE OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE,... |
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FIRST, WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THE OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE? |
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I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, GEORGE IS AN ADVOCATE FOR A PARTICULAR SET OF VALUES, AND THEN I RESPECT... |
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SO MONEY. YOU ARE MONEY. |
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THE BULK OF IT, THE LARGE BULK COMES FROM SMALL DONORS. WE HAVE ABOUT 150,000 ACTIVE DONORS, PROBABLY... |
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BUT THERE IS A HUGE DONOR, AS YOU KNOW, MR. SCAPE. |
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HE PROVIDES -- IT'S BEEN PUBLICLY REPORTED I DON'T LIKE TO DISCLOSE THE NAMES OF OUR DONORS TO PROTECT... |
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DON'T YOU HAVE TO? |
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IN PART, YES. THE I.R.S. SOMETIMES YOU REPORT LARGE DONORS. BUT THAT INFORMATION IS PRIVATE. BUT... |
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BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE, I SAW A FIGURE FROM 1985 -- OF COURSE YOU WEREN'T FOUNDED UNTIL -- BUT UNTIL... |
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IT WOULD BE. |
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BUT JUST STAKE THOSE FOR A MOMENT, JUST THE TWO OF THEM, EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THINK BOTH OF THEM ARE TRYING... |
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I'VE NEVER MET HIM. SO BUT I'VE MET DICK SCATES AND HE IS A CURE PERSON WHO LIKES LEARNING ABOUT WHAT'S... |
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THE FIGURES ON HIM, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN HOUR ON HIM. FOR INSTANCE, ON ONE LIST THAT I'M... |
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IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE SITTING THERE, YOU HAVE TO RAISE MONEY ALL THE TIME. ARE YOU FINDING THAT YOU'RE... |
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CREW APPEALS TO A DIFFERENT MARKET. WE APPEAL TO CONSERVATIVE AMERICANS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT... |
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WHAT'S YOUR BIGGEST SUCCESS? |
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I THINK OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS IN THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AREA IS OUR FIGHT WITH THE... |
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GO BACK TO THE SETTLEMENT ON THIS. THEY PAID YOU $900,000? |
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YES. |
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PLUS? |
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IT'S TO SETTLE ANY CLAIM WE WOULD HAVE FOR LEGAL EXPENSES UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. IF... |
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EXPLAIN FOIA. SHE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A TOOL THAT THEY USE ALSO. HOW OLD IS IT? |
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FOIA IS ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD, 40 PLUS. I THINK IT WAS PASSED IN 1967. AND JUDICIAL WATCH'S INNOVATION... |
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ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION I KED MS. SLOAN. DO ANY OF YOUR DONORS CALL YOU? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT... |
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YOU ALWAYS HEAR BACK FROM YOUR SQUENTS OR DONORS OR PEOPLE OFF THE INTERNET YOU OUGHT TO LOOK AT A,... |
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IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH BIG DONOR, LET'S SAY IF DICK SCAPE CALLS YOU AND SAYS, I WANT YOU TO... |
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HE'S NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. |
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BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS STAFF? |
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NO. OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH SCATES AND HIS STAFF AND THE FOUNDATION GENERALLY IS JUST REPORTING WHAT... |
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BE IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM CALLING YOU UP? |
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IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG SUGGESTING A GOOD IDEA. A SMALL DONOR COULD DO THAT AND... |
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BACK TO YOUR FOIA REQUEST. HOW MANY HAVE YOU MADE? |
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WELL OVER 400. |
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HOW DOES IT WORK? GIVE US AN EXAMPLE. WHO DECIDES INSIDE YOUR ORGANIZATION AND HOW DOES IT START?... |
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WE HAVE A SMALL BOARD. OUR DIRECTOR OF LITIGATION IS OUR CHIEF LAWYER, HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER, SINCE... |
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WHEN YOU RELEASE ONE OF YOUR REPORTS AND YOU ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING OR YOU'RE GOING AFTER SOMEBODY,... |
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I THINK THEY TREAT US WITH RESPECT. I THINK THE MEDIA LIKES GROUPS THAT PRESENT NEWS AS OPPOSED TO... |
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ARE THE MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS THAT WON'T COVER YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE |
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NO. WE HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY MEDIA OPERATION. I MEAN, I'VE HAD STORIES IN THE... |
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WHY DID THE STATE DEPARTMENT RELEASE THAT TO YOU? |
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BECAUSE IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THIS REQUEST WE HAD ABOUT THE BOMBING OF THE FARM SUITCAL FACTORY IN... |
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WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? YOU'VE BEEN HERE IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AND THE GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION.... |
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IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY? |
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JUST AS YOU WORK WITH THEM AND IS THERE A WAY TO DEFINE, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? |
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RETORICALLY THERE'S ALWAYS A DIFFERENCE. BILL CLINTON PAID HOMAGE TO TRANSPARENCY. BUT I POINTED... |
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WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THEM SUING YOU? |
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I CAN'T. OUR LAWYERS HAVE TOLD ME NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO HOPEFULLY IT WILL SEND. |
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CAN YOU TELL US WHERE IT IS IN THE COURT SYSTEM ? |
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I THINK IT'S IN THE END GAME BUT WE'LL SEE. THE COURTS ARE CONSIDERING SUMMARY JUDGMENT MOTIONS. |
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CAN YOU WITHOUT COMMENTING ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG ABOUT THIS TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THE SUIT'S... |
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I CAN'T. I CAN'T. |
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LARRY, YOUR FOUNDER, HAS SUED YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU CAN ANSWER THAT... |
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RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I READ IS HE WANTED HIS JOB BACK. |
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THAT'S RIGHT. BUT I CAN'T COMMENT ABOUT THE LITIGATION. |
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BUT HE LEFT YOU WHEN AN RAN FOR THE SENATE IN FLORIDA? |
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LARRY LEFT IN 2003. |
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AND DID HE RUN FOR THE SENATE |
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HE RAN FOR THE SENATE. |
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ON WHAT PARTY? |
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HE RAN AS A REPUBLICAN IN THE PRIMARY. |
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AND HE HIRED YOU? |
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YEAH. |
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OTHER THINGS ON THE LIST THAT YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH AND FILED FOR ARE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ERIC... |
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WELL, WE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. WHERE YOU HAD THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SUGGESTING ALL AMERICANS ARE COWARDS... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
