Health Care Roundtable

Apr 21, 2009

Senate Finance Committee

The Senate Finance Committee held a hearing on reforming the health care system. The hearing was conducted as a roundtable discussion with participants addressing several areas including primary and chronic care issues, Medicare reimbursement of physicians, use of information technology in medicine, as well as waste, fraud and abuse in the .. Read More
The Senate Finance Committee held a hearing on reforming the health care system. The hearing was conducted as a roundtable discussion with participants addressing several areas including primary and chronic care issues, Medicare reimbursement of physicians, use of information technology in medicine, as well as waste, fraud and abuse in the health care system. In the course of the discussion the the nomination of Governor Sebelius to be Secretary of health and Human Services was taken up. Sen. Kyl made a statement declaring his opposition to the nomination, and recorded vote was taken. The committee voted 15-8 in favor of sending the nomination to the Senate for confirmation.

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00:00:08 Unidentified Speaker THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE TODAY HELD A ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ON THE NATION'S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM....
00:00:34 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. UBERHUMPHREYS SAID AND I QUOTE CAM, FREEDOM IS HAMMER OUT ON THE...
00:04:59 Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E.U.S. Senator THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE TODAY AS WELL AS THE...
00:07:13 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THANK YOU SENATOR. IN AN EFFORT TO ENSURE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION I WOULD URGE ALL OF MY...
00:08:34 Iglehart, JohnEditor THANK YOU SENATOR BAUCUS. THE PANELIST, GIVEN MY POSITION ON THE TABLE HERE KATIE LEAVITT COMMODORES...
00:09:42 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO THANKS. FIRST OF ALL IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE. I AM PRIVILEGED TO BE A PART OF THIS GROUP AND I THINK...
00:11:40 Iglehart, JohnEditor LET ME FOLLOW-UP ASK YOU, MANY OF YOUR PATIENTS IN SOME OF YOUR SYSTEM ARE LOCATED IN RURAL AREAS...
00:12:02 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO DWELL THE OBVIOUS ISSUE IS ACCESS TO PRIMARY CARE, ACCESS TO A SERIES OF SMALL HOSPITALS THAT ARE...
00:13:38 Iglehart, JohnEditor NOW YOU DESCRIBE THE GUYS-- GEISINGER SYSTEM AS AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM, WHICH IT CERTAINLY IS BUT THE...
00:14:31 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO DO YOU KNOW I AM GOING TO BE LITTLE CIRCUITOUS ON THIS ONE. 70% OF OUR PAYER IS CAPITAL BLUE CROSS,...
00:15:46 Iglehart, JohnEditor AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HIRING OR RETAINING UNDER CONTRACT PRIMARY-CARE...
00:15:59 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO WE DON'T JOHN BECAUSE WE PAY THEM BETTER THAN MARKET AND WE PAY THEM BETTER THAN MARKET BECAUSE WE...
00:16:52 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator JOHN IF I MIGHT ASK OF BOTH GLENN AND ALSO MR. HACKBARTH, YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS TO HOW WE CAN TRANSPORT...
00:17:40 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS TO COME IS TO REDESIGN CMS. I THINK CMS AND NEEDS TO, NEEDS TO BE AN...
00:18:58 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR STABENOW.
00:18:59 Stabenow, DebbieU.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU.
00:19:03 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator IF I MIGHT, GLENN DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AS THE SAME QUESTION OF GLENN. GLENN...
00:19:18 Hackbarth, GlennChairman THANK YOU SENATOR BAUCUS. GEISINGER IS A TERRIFIC ORGANIZATION. MY OWN PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN...
00:22:44 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR.
00:22:46 Stabenow, DebbieU.S. Senator THANK YOU. I WONDERED IF HE COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO FOCUS ON CHRONIC ...
00:23:27 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO I THINK SENATOR, I THINK IT IS CRITICAL AND YOU KNOW WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE BLOCKING, BUT THE MAIN...
00:25:20 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR CONRAD?
00:25:22 Conrad, KentU.S. Senator JUST FOLLOWING UP ON DR. STEELE AND OPPOSE THIS TO THE PANEL BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, PERHAPS MR. IDOL...
00:26:20 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO TURN A PAPER IN WITH AN EXPERIENCE OF ABOUT 35,000, 30,000 MEDICARE IN THREE...
00:27:51 Iglehart, JohnEditor DR. MCCLELLAN.
00:27:52 Unidentified Speaker SENATOR, JUST TO PICK UP ON YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT FOR MANY OF THESE MEDICARE BENEFICIARIES...
00:30:48 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator JOHN I MUST INTERRUPT HERE. WE HAVE A LITTLE BUSINESS TO CONDUCT IT WILL HELP HEALTHCARE REFORM AND...
00:31:15 Kyl, JonU.S. Senator MR. CHAIRMAN?
00:31:18 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator CENTER KYL.
00:31:19 Kyl, JonU.S. Senator MR. CHAIRMAN I APPRECIATE THE GOVERNOR'S EFFORTS TO CLARIFY HER RELATIONSHIP WITH DR. GEORGE TILLER...
00:34:17 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DEBATE THE COMMITTEE WILL VOTE AND THE MOTION TO REPORT FOR THE NOMINATION...
00:35:36 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE VOTE. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
00:36:05 Unidentified Speaker MR. CHAIRMAN THAT TALLY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT IS 11 AYES, FIVE DAYS, THE FINAL TALLY INCLUDING PROXY'S...
00:36:15 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THE AYES HAVE IT. RETURN BACK TO BUSINESS.
00:36:22 Iglehart, JohnEditor MR. HACKBARTH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOUR DAYS AS AN EXECUTIVE AT THE HARVARD COMMUNITY HEALTH...
00:37:19 Hackbarth, GlennChairman WELL, HARVARD VANGUARD, WHICH IS A 500 PHYSICIAN MALTESE SPECIALTY GROUP PRACTICE IN BOSTON, WE ARE...
00:38:40 Iglehart, JohnEditor TAKING THE EXPERIENCE OF THE LAST NINE YEARS INSURING MEDPAC AND RECOGNIZING THAT EARLIER EXPERIENCE...
00:39:04 Hackbarth, GlennChairman YOU KNOW I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH ENDS OF THE PROVIDER CONTINUUM A WE TO HAVE SOME ORGANIZATIONS...
00:40:43 Wyden, Ronald LeeU.S. Senator A QUESTION ON THIS POINT A WE HAVE BEEN ADDED MAYBE 20, 25 MINUTES IN THIS PANEL HAS ALREADY DONE...
00:42:41 Unidentified Speaker SENATOR, THIS IS THE CORE QUESTION AND I'M SURE OTHER PANELIST HAVE SOME VIEWS ON IT THAT WILL BRING...
00:45:14 Cornyn, JohnU.S. Senator THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN WIDELY OBSERVE THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A...
00:47:00 Iglehart, JohnEditor MR. LEE.
00:47:03 Lee, PeterExecutive Director I JUST WANT TO AFFIRM THE QUESTION AND THAT MANY LARGE EMPLOYERS ARE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY, TIME...
00:48:12 Bingaman, JeffU.S. Senator THANK YOU. I WAS JUST DROPPED BY DR. STEELE'S POINT WHEN HE WAS ASKED WHAT COULD BE DONE TO TAKE ...
00:49:10 Unidentified Speaker LET ME START BY SAYING IT WORD OF PRAISE FOR THE STAFF AT CMS THAT HAVE ENORMOUSLY IMPOSSIBLY COMPLEX...
00:51:28 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator AM I ASKED DR. STEEL MOCK-- STEELE WHAT DID YOU HAVE IN MIND?
00:51:36 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE AT ALL. [LAUGHTER]
00:51:46 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
00:51:47 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO YOU KNOW AGAIN I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT FOR ALL OF THESE CHANGES STRAIGHT AWAY AND...
00:53:15 Iglehart, JohnEditor THANK YOU.
00:53:16 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR SNOWE?
00:53:22 Snowe, Olympia J.U.S. Senator THANK YOU. WHAT I -- IN THE LISTENING SESSIONS IN MAINE OVER THE RECESS AND MANY OF THE ISSUES YOU...
00:55:20 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD BE DELIGHTED. THANK YOU, SENATOR SNOW AND CHAIRMAN BAUCUS AND RANKING MEMBER FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY....
00:59:44 Iglehart, JohnEditor MR. HACKBARTH?
00:59:46 Hackbarth, GlennChairman TO A QUICK ADDITIONAL POINTS, SENATORS KNOW. IN ADDITION TO THE MEDICAL MADE PAC HAS RECOMMENDED THAT...
01:01:29 Unidentified Speaker MR. ENGELHARD?
01:01:30 Iglehart, JohnEditor YOU HAVE A QUICK COMMENT?
01:01:32 Unidentified Speaker I'M WITH BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD ASSOCIATION AND I THINK I CAN YIELD SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS MADE BY...
01:03:12 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator I SEE THAT SENATOR CARPER HAS BEEN TRYING TO SEEK RECOGNITION FOR A WHILE. I DON'T WANT TO GET IN...
01:03:19 Cantwell, MariaU.S. Senator I WANTED TO JUMP IN ON THE PRIMARY CARE SHORTAGE AND ASK TO EMPHASIZE MORE OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM...
01:04:32 Hackbarth, GlennChairman MEDPAC RECENTLY BEGAN LOOKING AT MEDICAL EDUCATION AND MEDICARE'S ROLE IN FINANCING MEDICAL EDUCATION...
01:06:02 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR HATCH?
01:06:04 Hatch, OrrinU.S. Senator THANK YOU. MY OPINION ON THE SAME LINES, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE FINEST FACILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY AND...
01:07:25 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK THAT BUILDS ON THE COMMENT FROM YOU FROM SENATOR SNOWE AND ALSO THE TESTIMONY...
01:10:19 Hatch, OrrinU.S. Senator I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-ON QUESTION, MR. HACKBARTH? DR. BRENT JAMES OF THE INTERMOUNTAIN...
01:11:24 Iglehart, JohnEditor DR. OPELKA FROM THE SURGICAL COMMUNITY. THOUGHTS ON THAT AND ALSO ABOUT YOUR WORK FORCE PERSPECTIVE...
01:11:35 Opelka, FrankProfessor THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CHAIRMAN BACHUS AND SENATOR GRASSLEY AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS,...
01:14:31 Hatch, OrrinU.S. Senator I PRESUME WE ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO THE PANEL BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PANEL. I WANT...
01:14:44 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator WE MAY WANT TO COME BACK THIS AFTERNOON AND KEEP GOING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES LIKE...
01:14:53 Hatch, OrrinU.S. Senator MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
01:14:58 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator THANK YOU. I WANTED TO ALLOW THE COUPLE OF IDEAS AND GET YOU ALL TO RESPOND. NUMBER ONE, THE ADVANTAGE...
01:15:52 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO THANK YOU, SENATOR. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY SHARE OUR POINT OF VIEW....
01:17:24 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING?
01:17:27 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO I THINK LIKE MOST IDEA WE ARE OPEN TO ALL IDEAS. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT SPECIFICALLY COMPETITIVE...
01:17:34 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator SO THE PLANS WOULD BE BASED ON THEIR COST INSTEAD OF GOVERNMENT SET RATE.
01:17:42 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO WELL I THINK WE ARE OPEN TO ANY CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM THAT RESULTS IN A PREDICTABLE SLOPE, MINIMAL...
01:18:05 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO FOR THE MEDICAL --
01:18:07 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO GALLANT THANK MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR BEING HERE. I AM RICHARD UMDENSTOCK AND...
01:19:23 Iglehart, JohnEditor MR. UMDENSTOCK, QUESTION. IF A NUMBER OF GM THE POSITIONS THAT MEDICARE FUNDS WITH INCREASE WHAT GUARANTEE...
01:19:40 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO JOHN, IT IS ON HOW YOU DESIGN BOTH THE PROGRAM AND THE REWARDS SO THAT BOTH THE INCENTIVES FOR MEDICAL...
01:20:22 Iglehart, JohnEditor OKAY. SENATOR?
01:20:25 Menendez, RobertU.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME TO YOUR SERVICE AND...
01:22:19 Hackbarth, GlennChairman SENATOR, WE DON'T THINK THAT A 10% BONUS BY ITSELF IS SUFFICIENT. WE HAVE RECOMMENDED AS PART OF A...
01:23:53 Ness, Debra L.President THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, SENATORS. I AM REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE CONVERSATION...
01:29:26 Iglehart, JohnEditor WE BETTER MOVE ON.
01:29:29 Iglehart, JohnEditor I WANT TO ASK DR. NAYLOR TO FOLLOW-UP. 13 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA HAS DONE WORK TARGETING...
01:29:42 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator DR. NAYLOR, REMIND US WHO YOU REPRESENT.
01:29:46 Naylor, MaryAssociate Dean I REPRESENT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA SCHOOL OF NURSING AND I HAVE HAD THE GREAT FORTUNE TO WORK...
01:33:39 Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E.U.S. Senator [INAUDIBLE]
01:33:41 Iglehart, JohnEditor I WOULD ASK SENATOR BACHUS QUESTION IS THE SCALE ON YOUR MODEL?
01:33:45 Naylor, MaryAssociate Dean FIRST OF ALL I THINK THIS MODEL IS HIGHLY COMPLEMENTARY TO GREAT PRIMARY-CARE, GREAT CHRONIC CARE...
01:35:00 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR GRASSLEY.
01:35:02 Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E.U.S. Senator I WANT TO BRING AN ISSUE I HAVE TO GIVE SOME COMFORT WITH OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AS WE TRIED...
01:37:01 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO I WOULD START BY SAYING THAT IT STARTS WITH THE NOTION OF STARTING WHERE WE ARE AND WORKING WITH WHAT...
01:38:51 Iglehart, JohnEditor DR. STEELE?
01:38:54 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO SENATOR, I THINK THE LEVERAGE IS IN MEDICARE, AND I BELIEVE IF YOU INSTRUCT SOME SORT OF PATIENT FOCUSED...
01:39:57 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator WHAT SOME OF THE COMPONENTS BE OF THE PLAN BE?
01:40:01 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO I'M NOT WILLING TO SAY RIGHT NOW. [LAUGHTER]
01:40:06 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THAT'S WHY WE ARE MEETING.
01:40:09 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO I'M INTERESTED IN PUSHING PLAN EIGHT. PLAN A IS INNOVATION, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE MARKET-BASED ...
01:40:35 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator SOMETIMES A SOBERING PLAN B WOULD ENCOURAGE PLAN A.
01:40:46 Grassley, Charles "Chuck" E.U.S. Senator I WANT TO COMMENT, KANSAS SENATOR FOR HIMSELF ASSUME SINCE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY ON THE PANEL SUGGESTED...
01:41:12 Unidentified Speaker I THOUGHT THAT DR. MCCLELLAN SAID WE DO HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. WASN'T...
01:41:19 Unidentified Speaker LET ME CLARIFY IN TWO WAYS. ONE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO ASK CMS TO DO MORE AND MORE QUICKLY TO DRIVE...
01:43:20 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR BAUCUS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF SENATORS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. I MIGHT ASK THESE FOLKS IF THEY COULD...
01:43:31 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator I THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME THE SENATORS ASKED THE QUESTIONS. WE WILL PLAY BY EAR AND...
01:43:38 Lincoln, Blanche LambertU.S. Senator THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE AND IT HAS BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF TALK ABOUT MEDICAL HOME AND TALK...
01:43:50 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator MR. HACKBARTH OF AROUND THIS SUBJECT OF INVESTMENT IN RETURNS MIGHT SPEND A SECOND TO MAYBE GET THOUGHTS...
01:44:06 Hackbarth, GlennChairman I LARGELY AGREE WITH WHAT MARK MCCLELLAN SAID. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE TARGET IN INVESTMENTS...
01:44:21 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator WHAT ELSE?
01:44:23 Hackbarth, GlennChairman THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG INVESTMENTS IN ADDITION OF COURSE TO THE UNIVERSAL COVERAGE, WHICH OF COURSE...
01:46:05 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR KERRY?
01:46:07 Lincoln, Blanche LambertU.S. Senator I DIDN'T GET TO ASK MY QUESTION.
01:46:10 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator SENATOR LINCOLN GETS TO GO NEXT.
01:46:12 Lincoln, Blanche LambertU.S. Senator THANK YOU. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT MEDICAL HOME, AND WE TALK ABOUT I DON'T KNOW, I NEVER CAME IN HERE...
01:49:34 Naylor, MaryAssociate Dean LET ME ALSO ADD A LEVEL OF SATISFACTION OF HEALTH CARE -- THE LEVEL OF SATISFACTION OF HEALTH CARE...
01:50:12 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator I MIGHT SAY IF I MIGHT SENATOR CARPER HAS BEEN SEEKING RECOGNITION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO I DON'T...
01:50:32 Carper, Thomas R.U.S. Senator I WILL BE BRIEF.
01:50:33 Carper, Thomas R.U.S. Senator THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME OF YOU BEGIN TO HAVE A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM YOU FOR...
01:54:07 Lee, PeterExecutive Director MW -- 160 MILLION AMERICANS ARE COVERED THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYERS BELIEVE IN THE MARKET AND...
01:55:31 Cantwell, MariaU.S. Senator ON A QUESTION OF EFFICIENCY AND SAVINGS -- ISN'T THERE A OPPORTUNITY IN, SAVING IN A LONG-TERM CARE...
01:56:05 Diaz, PaulPresident THERE IS NO QUESTION THERE ARE STILL SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES UPWARD TO TAKE A VANTAGE OF A COMMUNITY-BASED...
01:57:24 Unidentified Speaker JUST TO ADD TO THIS, WASHINGTON STATE HAS SOME EXPERIENCE WITH PUTTING MORE EMPHASIS ON HOME COMMUNITY-BASED...
01:58:58 Cantwell, MariaU.S. Senator THE SAVINGS HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS, WOULD IT BE HAVE BILLIONS NATIONWIDE IF IMPLEMENTED THE SAME SYSTEM?...
01:59:07 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY.
01:59:08 Ensign, JohnU.S. Senator THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO GO BACK BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN EMPHASIZED A COUPLE OF SENATORS...
02:03:13 Ness, Debra L.President MOI SENATOR, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT A KEY COMPONENT HERE IS GETTING TO A REAL PATIENT ENGAGEMENT...
02:05:12 Iglehart, JohnEditor SENATOR CORNYN.
02:05:13 Cornyn, JohnU.S. Senator I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MORRIS THERE AND RESPONDING OR REACTION TO THE RANKING MEMBER, THAT SOME...
02:06:49 Morris, LewisChief Counsel SENATOR, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT WE IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY OF RESHAPING PART OF THIS DISCUSSION...
02:11:38 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator EL LIKE TO FOLLOW ON THAT QUESTION THAT SENATOR CORNYN ASKED, THE QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE WASTE?...
02:13:08 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO ALL OF THE PUBLICITY IN THIS SINGLE PRIZE IN THAT WE HAVE GONE CALLED A WARRANTY IS NOT THE REAL SUBSTANCE...
02:14:45 Stabenow, DebbieU.S. Senator THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT POINT, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS -- HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS...
02:16:15 Opelka, FrankProfessor THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK THAT THE WAY LOOK AT THIS IN THE PAST HAS BEEN AT LEAST FOR ME ALMOST...
02:19:00 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO AND I PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HE JUST SAID CRANKS' WE'VE GOT TWO VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES ANY RAISED ONE OF...
02:20:14 Wyden, Ronald LeeU.S. Senator , BECAUSE I THINK THE CHAIRMAN IS RIGHT AND GETTING CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP THE MORNING SESSION WAS CRUISING...
02:21:58 Unidentified Speaker I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND SENATOR ENSIGN HIGHLIGHTED THE VALUE OF THIS KIND OF CHOICES AS WELL....
02:23:47 Lee, PeterExecutive Director NOEL -- ABSOLUTE CHOICE IS CRITICAL AND RETURNED A LOT ABOUT CHOOSING A TREMENDOUS BLAST OUT INTO...
02:24:31 Hackbarth, GlennChairman I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN ON IT SENATOR BIDEN'S POINT -- I CERTAINLY AGREE PERIOD IN BAGHDAD THINK THAT...
02:25:20 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator COLI TO FOCUS MORE ON CMS. WHAT INVESTMENTS, WHAT CHANGES ARE NEEDED PRESUMABLY? WE IN THE CONGRESS...
02:26:05 Diaz, PaulPresident THANK YOU. I WANT TO COME IN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A MULTISTATE PROVIDER, WE OPERATE IN 40 STATES...
02:27:40 Iglehart, JohnEditor MR. HACKBARTH.
02:27:42 Hackbarth, GlennChairman I WOULD SAY THREE THINGS AND THESE HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BY OTHER PEOPLE -- THEY NEED MORE MONEY, MORE...
02:29:16 Unidentified Speaker IT OF BLUE CROSS COULD SUPPORT A MODEL IN PHILADELPHIA THE LIFE OF MEDICARE AND THE TABLE, OF ALL...
02:29:46 Lee, PeterExecutive Director I WANT ALIGNMENT OF THE CMS PARTNERING WITH THE PRIVATE PLANS IS A BORING, BUT I AGREE WITH MR. HACKBARTH...
02:30:25 Ness, Debra L.President AND JUST VERY BRIEFLY BUILDING ON WHAT PETER SAID AT THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INNOVATION...
02:30:47 Opelka, FrankProfessor ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED WITH OUR OTHER INSURERS AS WE SIT DOWN IN PART OR OVER ISSUES AND TRY...
02:31:58 Iglehart, JohnEditor DR. STEELE.
02:32:01 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO AGAIN I THINK THE NARRATIVE IS IMPORTANT AND IF WE FOCUS ON WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH SOME OF THESE INCREDIBLY...
02:32:42 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.
02:32:46 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO YOUR GOAL SHOULD BE TWO HAVE CMS AS THE WORK PLACE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A PART OF BECAUSE YOU...
02:33:00 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THAT IS A GOOD POINT, HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THAT?
02:33:06 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO WE COULD TALK LATER. [LAUGHTER]
02:33:08 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator OK, THANKS.
02:33:10 Schumer, Charles E.U.S. Senator MR. CHAIRMAN --
02:33:14 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COMMENT?
02:33:17 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO ANOTHER POSSIBLE POINTS ON CMS, ONE IS PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE IS AN IMPORTANT AND I...
02:35:31 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO I WANT TO MAKE A FOLLOW-UP POINT, ABOUT CMS, AND LOOKS TO ME THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO TEST MULTIPLE...
02:38:31 Schumer, Charles E.U.S. Senator THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK YOU BEEN WITH THIS IS GREAT MORNING, I HAVE WATCHED A LITTLE FROM OFFICE....
02:40:37 Unidentified Speaker COMPETITION IS HEALTHY. WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO DISCUSSION AND I THINK THAT NO DOOR IS EVER SLAM SHUT....
02:41:48 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator AND I SAY TO THAT THE NEXT SESSION WILL DEAL WITH COVERAGE WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FORUM FOR THIS...
02:43:23 Schumer, Charles E.U.S. Senator I APPRECIATE THAT, THE POINT I WAS MAKING TO DR. CORNYN IS IT MIGHT BE THAT FOR A PRIVATE PROFIT FOR...
02:44:25 Unidentified Speaker AT THIS POINT OUT SAY MR. CHAIRMAN HAS SPOKEN AND WE UNDERSTAND IS ALL ON THE TABLE. [LAUGHTER]
02:44:31 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator EVERYONE I AGREE WITH THAT? EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE. [LAUGHTER] WITH THE SINGLE EXCEPTION OF A ...
02:45:24 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO TRY TO GET PAYMENTS THE LINE BETTER SUPPORT...
02:46:56 Unidentified Speaker I ALSO THINK WE ONLY TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT LAWS TO ENSURE THAT THE PHYSICIANS ISN'T BLOCKED BY CURRENT...
02:47:22 Morris, LewisChief Counsel THREE THINGS QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL, CONCEPTUALLY WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS TRYING TO GO AND WH YOU'RE...
02:48:41 Iglehart, JohnEditor MS. NAYLOR.
02:48:42 Naylor, MaryAssociate Dean THE IDEA THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE, I HOPE WE CONSIDER THE PAYMENT OPTION AN OPPORTUNITY...
02:49:22 Hackbarth, GlennChairman I WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT TACK, THE SILOS AND THE HEALTH CARE DELIVERY WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ARE NOT...
02:50:13 Williams, Ronald A.Chairman and CEO A COUPLE OF POINTS I WOULD MAKE IS AS WE THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF BUNDLING WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN...
02:51:15 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU KNOW HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN A ROW COMMITTED TO A RESTAURANT SERVICE CAPABILITIES...
02:51:29 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RURAL. [LAUGHTER] ROLE IN THE USE IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT. OUR ROLE IN THE...
02:51:41 Iglehart, JohnEditor AND MEMBER OF THE PANELISTS ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF HOSPITAL AND BE EMISSIONS IN THE CONTEXT OF EXPRESSING...
02:51:59 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO I'M SORRY, WE WERE FINISHING UP ON THE LAST TOPIC.
02:52:05 Umbdenstock, Richard J.President and CEO PRIETA MISSIONS AND WHAT THE AHA VIEW IS HOW TO ADDRESS THAT MY, FIRST OF ALL,. MISSION IS NOT A REAL...
02:53:43 Diaz, PaulPresident IS, ONE FURTHER POINT. I APPRECIATE AND THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THE CARE HAS BEEN IN THE DISCUSSION...
02:54:46 Iglehart, JohnEditor DR. STEELE?
02:54:49 Steele, GlennPresident and CEO I THINK THE READMISSION IS A METRIC YOU COULD EASILY APPLIED TO YOUR GOALS FOR CHRONIC DISEASE MANAGEMENT...
02:55:41 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator YOU KNOW THE GAME WHACK-A-MOLE? [LAUGHTER] EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE I SEE ANOTHER GO UP THERE. [LAUGHTER]...
02:55:51 Naylor, MaryAssociate Dean I WANT TO SEE FROM THE PATIENT AND FAMILY CAREGIVER PERSPECTIVE THE HOSPITAL READMISSION IS A HOSPITAL...
02:56:37 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator MY MOTHER IS IN A HOSPITAL THREE YEARS AGO WITH A COLIN MATTER, BUT IN THE OFFICE OF THE DAY SHE HAD...
02:57:12 Iglehart, JohnEditor I HAVE A FINAL QUESTION. I THINK THAT THE GENERATION TO THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION OF RICHARD NIXON...
02:58:11 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THANK YOU, JOHN. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I LIKE PANELISTS TO THINK ABOUT THAT, FRANKLY....
03:00:40 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:00:41 Baucus, MaxU.S. Senator THE HEARING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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