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IN 1979, AMERICANS CREATED C-SPAN -- AMERICA'S CABLE COMPANIES CREATED C-SPAN AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.... |
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WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE EVERYONE ON A HOLIDAY. WE REPRESENT THE LARGE AND SMALL PUBLISHERS.... |
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DOES THAT PUT ME ON THE OFFENSIVE? |
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I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. BUT SHE'S WRITTEN SUCH BOOKS AS "SAYS NO TO SPYWARE BUT ALSO LIKES FLUFFY... |
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I CAN APPRECIATE THAT DIFFERENCE. |
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THOSE ARE TWO OF HER HEADLINES. |
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THE SECOND ONE IS MUCH MORE SERIOUS. |
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THE MESSAGE WAS SERIOUS. |
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YES. |
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BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, KATE IS ONE OF THE LEADING REPORTERS, JOURNALISTS, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS... |
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I ACTUALLY WAS COVERING THE CAMPAIGNS AS EARLY AS 2007, BUT THE CAMPAIGN 2008 SECTION WAS CREATED... |
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WHO WERE YOUR MAIN SOURCES? I KNOW YOU WORKED WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, BUT YOU WENT BEYOND... |
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WELL, THE BULK OF THE BOOK WAS CREATED THROUGH ALL THE REPORTING THAT I DID OVER, YOU KNOW, THE PAST... |
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THAT'S GREAT, THOUGH, YOU HAD THE SORT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE VIEWPOINT WHERE FROM MY VIEW PERSPECTIVE,... |
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THE CAMPAIGNS HAD REALLY PEOPLE IN HOUSE, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAD PEOPLE IN HOUSE, PRETTY MUCH, REALLY,... |
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I WANT TO JUMP TO ONE OF YOUR CONCLUSIONS WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF YOUR OPENING PREMISES, WHICH IS THAT... |
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SURE. I THINK THROUGHOUT THE YEARS I'VE BEEN COVERING THIS SPACE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRESIDENTIAL... |
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ONE MORE STEP IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. DOES THAT MEAN JOHN MCCAIN IS THE FATHER OF ONLINE POLITICAL... |
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HE DID IT. HE'S, UNFORTUNATELY, THROUGHOUT HIS 2008 CAMPAIGN AND THE WAY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA COVERED... |
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THE VICTORS GET TO WRITE THE HAD ISTRI BOOKS. IF YOU DON'T WIN, PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER YOUR SUCCESS... |
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WELL, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY, I WOULD SAY 98% TO 99% OF WHAT THEY DID WAS ONLINE ADVERTISING WAS FOR... |
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I NOTICED THAT A WEEK BEFORE THE PRIMARY ELECTION, THEY WERE VERY INTERACTIVE, CLICK HERE, FIND YOUR... |
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AD NETWORKS IS REALLY -- I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ONE -- ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF WHAT HAPPENED... |
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AND NOT ALL THAT NEW IN OUR |
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RIGHT. |
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CERTAINLY WE'VE BEEN THE FACT OF 85% OF ONLINE ADS ARE ACTUALLY DISPLAYED OR DELIVERED VILLA AD NETH... |
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EVEN THEY BELIEVE IT WAS A HUGE SURPRISE TO PEOPLE THAT -- ONE OF THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE CAMPAIGN... |
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LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WEB SITES. |
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THEY CLAIM TO REACH OVER 80% OF THE WEB POPULATION WITH THESE WEB SITES. SO THE UNDERSTANDING IS,... |
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AND GETTING PEOPLE TO GO TO |
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RIGHT. |
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YOU TALKED ABOUT ROI AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE PAYING PER CLICK OR PER ACTION, AND EVERY TIME -- YOU... |
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YEAH, AND I IMAGINE THAT FOR A LOT OF NONPROFITS, A MILLION IS WAY OUT EVER THEIR BEARK, BUT -- BALLPARK,... |
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONLINE AND TRADITIONAL MEDIA IS THE ABILITY TO GET THE RELEVANCEY OF THE AD,... |
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WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE USE OF ONLINE ADVERTISING FOR POLITICAL AND NONPROFITS, TREE ASSOCIATIONS,... |
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CAMPAIGN GRID IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT -- AN ONLINE AD NETWORK THAT SERVES CANDIDATES AND CAUSES. ... |
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AND TO JEFF'S LEFT IS EMILY WILLIAMS. KIND OF A WELL KNOWN FIRM HERE IN D.C., SPECIALIZING IN DIRECT... |
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NICE TO BE HERE. |
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AND COLIN DELANEY RUNS AN -- RUNS A SITE. TONS OF REALLY PRACTICAL AND A WILL THE OF TIMES HUMOROUS... |
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I'M RUNNING POLITICS NOW? I GUESS I'M THE KING OF ONLINE POLITICS? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? |
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I SAID FUNNY? |
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I DON'T KNOW IF I HIT THE MARK ON THAT ONE. |
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OK. I THOUGHT THE FIRST QUESTION FOR THE PANELISTS THAT MAKES SENSE, IS IT NECESSARY FOR ANY ONE OF... |
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I THINK SO. AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON WHY, IS YOU GET INCREDIBLE AN LITICS YOU CAN USE... |
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EMILY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? |
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I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ONLINE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. I THINK THE IDEA IS TO UNDERSTAND... |
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I AGREE WITH EMILY. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE ALMOST ALWAYS SOME WAYS IN WHICH ONLINE COMMUNICATION CAN... |
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EITHER ONE OF YOU GUYS WANT TO -- |
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I'LL TAKE A SHOT. GOOGLE HAS A PROGRAM WHERE A QUALIFIED 5123, THE ONLY ACKSEPPINGSES ARE POLITICAL... |
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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT GOOGLE GRANTS RIGHT NOW. I'D LOVE TO KNOW HOW... |
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FROM WHAT THEY HAVE REPORTED, IN FIVE YEARS THEY SAY THEY HAVE GIVEN AWAY $350 MILLION IN CLICKS,... |
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SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS WOULD -- LET'S ASSUME THAT EVEN AN ENTITY WHERE YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, GUYS... |
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ALMOST ALWAYS. THERE ARE THOSE CASES WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO FLY UNDER THE RADAR, BUT WE WOULD NEVER... |
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I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT VIEW. IN THE ORGANIZATIONS WE WORK WITH, THE ADVERTISING WE DO DRIVES 90%... |
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YOU THINK THEY HAVE TO WORK IN TANDEM. YOU WOULDN'T SAY, YEAH, BUILD THE SITE, THAT'S THE THING YOU... |
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THEN YOU HAVE TO TEM PEOPLE HOW TO FIND YOUR -- TELL PEOPLE HOW TO FIND YOUR SITE, AND RON PAUL D... |
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WHEN CAMPAIGNS ARE DOING THE ONLINE AD SPENDING THING, DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL KIND OF, YOU REALLY NEED... |
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I THINK IT IS THE LADDER. I THINK IT IS BASED ON WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. I THINK IN THE POLITICAL... |
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WHAT DO YOU THINK L, EMILY? |
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I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. IN MY EXPERIENCE IT HAS BEEN WE'LL SPEND WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE TO... |
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JUST THINK OF THE TIMING OF THE CAMPAIGN. ONLINE ADVERTISING TENDS TO BE -- NOT ATTRITIONAL, BUT IT... |
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CPM IS "COST PER THOUSAND," AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND PERFORMANCE-BASED... |
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I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE YOUR OBJECTIVES AS AN ORGANIZATION AND WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CYCLE.... |
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I WOULD AGREE THAT ANY CAMPAIGN, YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DO WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS, HOW ARE... |
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AND YOU CAN EVEN BREAK IT DOWN FURTHER FOR THAT. FOR INSTANCE, I TEND TO THINK OF JUST BECAUSE OF... |
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I THOUGHT WE WOULD FOCUS ON A FORM OF TARGETING THAT IS SPRETH PRETTY PERVASIVE. IT HAS BECOME SOMETHING... |
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I THINK THE REMARKETING PIECE IS A NICE PLACE TO START. IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN TO YOUR WEB SITE, THEY... |
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TWO POINTS OF VIEW. I MEAB MEAN, JUST THINK -- I CAN SEE IT IN THE COMMERCIAL WORD, BECAUSE SO OFTEN... |
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THE PRIVACY QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS THE FOLLOW-UP WITH THIS SORT OF THING. I GUESS WITH THAT SORT OF... |
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IT IS CLASSIC TEST, HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK ON THE COVER OF THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES"? |
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I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING EVERY CANDIDATE HAS TO WEIGH. |
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JUST TO ASK THE THREE OF YOU, IF YOU ARE A CONGRESSMAN AND IN THE WORLD OF WHERE WE LIVE, COMPARABLES... |
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THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHUT PEOPLE UP. |
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THERE IS A VALID WAY TO MAKE IT GO AWAY. |
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ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD ABOUT IN THE PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN WAS HAVING THIS INTERGRATED CAMPAIGN.... |
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MY VIEW IS WHETHER THE ANALITICS BECAME THE COMMUNITY DATA THAT WAS SHARED. WE MADE AN EFFORT TO GET... |
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SOME CAMPAIGNS YOU WORKED WITH THAT WEREN'T INTERESTED IN THAT? |
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YES. AND MY IMPRESSION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN IS THAT HAPPENED VERY WELL, BUT IT... |
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I THINK WERE PEOPLE DOING THE ONLINE STUFF AND THE PEOPLE DOING OTHER THINGS WERE SAYING, EH, GO DO... |
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WHAT YOU WERE ALLUDING TO ONLINE IS NOT A STRATEGY IN AND OF ITSELF. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS... |
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ONLINE AND OFF LINE CAN EXIST WELL TOGETHER, BUT ONE OF THOSE AWE HUH -- AH-HA MOMENTS WAS WHEN I... |
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ERIC FRENCH. |
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WHO YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WHO IS DOING THE ADS FOR MCCAIN, THEY TRUSTED HIM TO DO THEM, AND THAT WAS... |
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AND THE IMPRESSION I GOT, TOO, WAS THEY DIDN'T PREPARE THEM FOR -- MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A SET OF KEY... |
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WE HAVE A MIC WE CAN PASS ALONG. WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I'LL TAKE THE PROB PREROGATIVE AND ASK A... |
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I THINK THE THING THAT I TAKE OUT OF THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, VIDEO IS KEY, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT... |
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I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE COMPLAINT THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM LISTENING TO A PANEL ON SOUTHWEST AND CAME... |
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FROM CHONG DESIGN. |
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LOOK UP LONG-TAIL NANO-TARGETING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. HE HAS A GREAT ARTICLE OUT THERE. |
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ONE OF THE THINGS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT -- OH, I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT COMPLETELY. |
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PLONG -- THAT PREROLE VIDEO. IF YOU ARE WATCHING SOMETHING ON ABC 7 NEWS.COM, BEFORE YOU WATCH YOU... |
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AND JUST TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT, IN TERMS OF THE ONLINE ADVERTISING WORLD, LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT... |
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WITHIN THAT, THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH VIDEO. YOU TUBE IS NOW THE SECOND... |
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AND TO SORT OF SUM IF ALL UP, I THINK THE SORT OF EASE OF ONES ABILITY TO IRNT GRATE ACROSS PLATFORMS... |
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GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? |
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NOT QUITE. NOT UP HERE. |
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? |
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NOT VERY WELL. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR A QUESTION. |
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? I HAVE A TWO-PART QUESTION. THE FIRST PART OF THAT QUESTION IS REPUTATION MANAGEMENT.... |
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I'LL REITERATE THOSE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT REPUTATION MANAGEMENT AND HOW ZSH I... |
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I THINK WE TRY TO USE THEM IN TANDEM. WHEN ARE YOU FIRST LAUNCHING A SITE OR PAGE OR WHATEVER IT MAY... |
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THE OPTIMIZATION, IT IS PEOPLE -- HOW MANY QUALITY SITES ARE LINKING TO US, HOW MUCH CONTENT DO WE... |
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IN TERMS OF REPUTATION MANAGEMENT, THERE WERE SOME THINGS YOU DEALT WITH OUT THERE. THE MCCAIN PALIN... |
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THEY HAD' TON OF RELATIVELY LOW COST GOOGLING NETWORK DISPLAY ADS AFTER SARAH PALIN WAS FIRST NOMINATED... |
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THAT'S CERTAINLY AN EXAMPLE. OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN USING PAID SEARCH ADVERTISING TO REFUTE DIFFERENT THINGS... |
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THE GENERAL SORT OF -- THE SORT OF THE WEB RULE IS, IF THERE'S A CRITICAL MESSAGE OUT THERE, DON'T... |
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AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A WEB SITE THAT JOHN KERRY -- |
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JUST TO FINISH UP REAL QUICK, WHILE WITH MCCAIN, THERE WASN'T A MCCAIN CANDIDATING UNDER CURN FLOATING,... |
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ABSOLUTELY. |
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THERE IS A QUESTION IN THE FRONT. |
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WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU KNOW ABOUT PEOPLE TO TARGET THEM AND HOW DOES THAT INFLUENCE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE... |
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IT IS A COMBINATION OF WHAT THEY TYPE INTO GOOGLE. LET'S TAKE POLITICS. IF THERE ARE EIGHT ISSUES... |
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CORPORATE MARKETERS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW CORPORATE MARKETERS TARGET, THEY HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC... |
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IN MY EXPERIENCE YOU TEND TO SORT OF DEFINE THE TARGET AND DEFINE THE MESSAGE THAT YOU THINK WILL... |
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WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BEHAVIORAL PROFILING AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THE WEB. ADDING A DONAR FILE BUT... |
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THE MOST CRITICAL DATA WAS WHETHER SOMEBODY HAD DONATED IN THE PAST. |
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE. |
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THE OBAMANS -- |
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AND ALSO IN TERMS OF TARGETING, I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THERE IS THAT LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS... |
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WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING? FACEBOOK? REALLY DOING THIS MICRO-TARGETING SO... |
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I H HAVE USED THAT FACEBOOK FEATURE, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK FOR ME. |
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MAYBE IT IS A FAKE BUTTON YOU CAN PUSH. |
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SORT OF LIKE PRESSING THE ELEVATOR BUTTON MORE THAN ONCE. DO YOU THINK IF IT IS JUST A PLACEBO EFFECT,... |
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I THINK IT IS EFFECTIVE FOR POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS AND NONPROFITS. IN FACT, FOR THE NONPROFITS WE ARE... |
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GO YR WHERE YOUR AUDIENCE IS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ON FACEBOOK. INITIALLY THEY DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH RESPONSE... |
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SOCIAL NETWORKING ADVERTISING IN THE 2008 CAMPAIGN, LOOKING AT REPORTS, OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN SPENTOR $640... |
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IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE AND DEDICATE TIME TO IT, THE LIFT YOU GET -- IT IS AN IMPORTANT... |
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MY NAME IS NICK AND I WORKED ON THE CAMPAIGN OUT IN THE FIELD, SO I GOT TO SEE THE TRANSFORMTIVE NATURE... |
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WHEN YOU SAY "ACTION ON THE GROUND" WHAT DO YOU MEAN? |
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WE TALKED ABOUT RAISING MONEY ONLINE, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT MESSAGING WITH ONLINE ADVERTISING, BUT... |
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THAT'S WHA WHAT THEY DID. THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR ADVERTISING WAS LIST BUILDING. AND ONCE YOU HAD... |
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IT DOESN'T COST AS MUCH. REQUEST ON YOUR YES ON PROP 8 THING, AT THE END, THEY COULDN'T VA BOUGHT... |
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I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE WHO HANDLED THE ENTIRE YES ON 8 CAMPAIGN, THEY TOLD ME -- FIRST OF ALL, ONE... |
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SO YOU ARE GOING TO TARGET EVERYBODY IN CALIFORNIA. IT TURNS OUT TO NOT COST THAT MUCH TO TARGET EVERYBODY... |
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BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IN CALIFORNIA IS ON LINE CLICKING ON STUFF 10 HOURS A DAY, RIGHT? |
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AND YOU ARE ONLY CHARGED FOR THE ADS CLICKED ON. |
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ALTHOUGH, THAT IS ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE GOOGLE SURGE, THAT IS A C.P.M.... |
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CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING? AS HUMAN BEINGS I WOULD BET EVERY ONE IN THIS ROOM HAS A CELL PHONE ON THEM,... |
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YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE LAND LINES ANYMORE, ASK THEY ARE LITFRALLY CARRYING... |
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I WAS SPEAKING TO MY FRIEND CHERYL CONTE A FEW YEARS AGO, OK, WE HAVE ABSORBED TV, WHAT'S NEXT? WELL,... |
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AND IT WAS PEOPLE WHO CARED ENOUGH ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN WHO CREATE DID. |
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SOMETIMES WHEN WE LAUNCH A CAMPAIGN SOMETHING DOES GO WRONG OR GOES AWRY, AND YOU NEED TO CORRECT... |
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THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. |
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GOES OVER MY HEAD. |
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IT IS A TOUGH ANSWER. I GUESS THERE ARE BEST PRACTICES BUT YOU ONLY SEEM TO LEARN THEM AFTER YOU MAKE... |
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AND BEST PRACTICES DON'T MAKE THE BEST MISTAKES. WOULD THERE BE TOOLS OUT THERE THAT ACT AS SOME KIND... |
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CERTAINLY RIGHT NOW BY THE MAJOR PORTALS, THE MAJOR AD NETWORKS TO DO IT, IF YOU WANT INDEPENDENT... |
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THAT'S RIGHT. |
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THAT WAS FUNNY, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNNY NO MATTER WHO THE CANDIDATE WAS. ESSENTIALLY BEFORE A... |
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MAYBE THERE ARE WAYS TO USE THESE AND BUILD CONFIDENCE IN THE MEDIUM. IT IS MY HOPE IN THE SAME PROFESSION... |
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THERE ARE THREE DISCIPLINES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THE CREATIVE HAS TO BE PROVED BY THE PERSON THAT'S... |
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AND POOR TARGETING EXISTS AND WASTEFUL TARGETSING AS WERE YOU DESCRIBING, GETTING AN AD FOR A CANDIDATE... |
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I BELIEVE WE ARE PRETTY MUCH HAVING TO END THIS SESSION, BUT |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.