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ONE. CSPAN COVERING WASHINGTON LIKE NO OTHER. |
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THE FISCAL YEAR 2010 BUDGET PROCESS CONTINUED TODAY AS THE SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE MARKED UP ITS VERSION... |
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MARKET WILL COME TO ORDER. -- MARK UP WILL COME TO ORDER. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR... |
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I WANT TO SECOND YOUR COMMENTS. IT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR STAFF TANGOR CORDIAL APPROACH... |
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LET ME GO BACK TO THIS QUESTION. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. I DO NOT THINK IT WILL SURPRISE... |
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AS WE GET INTO THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. I BELIEVE SENATOR ALEXANDER IS READY TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. |
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I YOU PREPARED TO OFFER AN |
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I AM READY. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? |
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WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE, HAVE NOT VISITED ABOUT THAT. THIS YEAR. I THINK WE WILL CONSULT THE... |
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RIGHT. THE FIVE MINUTES SHOULD BE DIVIDED 3 TO THE OFFER AND TWO TO THE RESPONSE. |
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IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THREE MINUTES TO DESCRIBE YOUR AMENDMENT. WE HAVEA A TWO MINUTE RESPONSE. |
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I HAVE THREE MINUTES. |
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WE HAVE ALSO -- LET'S BE CLEAR. WE HAVE HAD THAT GUIDELINE IN THE PAST FOR THE IMMINENCE. WHEN WE... |
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I SUSPECT THIS WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BUT I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED WHY WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN WHEN... |
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I WOULD SAY THIS. THE REASON WE HAVE ALWAYS ALLOWED A WRAP UP BEFORE THE VOTE IS BECAUSE JUST AS YOU... |
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THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT THE REASON WAS. |
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SENATOR, I AGREE WITH THE SENATOR. SENATOR ALEXANDER. |
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THANK YOU. THE PRESIDENT DESERVES GREAT CREDIT FOR GIVING THIS A 10-YEAR PICTURE OF THE COUNTRY'S... |
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THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE FIRST OF ALL, WE ALREADY HAVE A DEFICIT NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND FOR... |
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THE PRESIDENT HAS SUGGESTED A NATIONAL SALES TAX ON ENERGY. YOU'LL PAY A SALES TAX WHEN YOU TURN ON... |
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LET ME SAY THAT THIS AMENDS THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK. THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE TERMED A NATIONAL SALES... |
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IT IS A LOT LIKE THE CLASS PHOTOGRAPH. YOU HAVE ASKED THE CHILD TO LEAVE THE ROOM BUT YOU LEFT HIS... |
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YES. |
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THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO INTRODUCE IT. |
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WE APPRECIATE IT. SENATOR FEINGOLD IS RECOGNIZED. |
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THANK YOU. THANKS TO SENATOR WHITE HOUSE AND SENATOR SANDERS. THIS WOULD CREATE AN ADJUSTMENT TO... |
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ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SENATOR GREGG. |
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THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY NOT RAISE SPENDING. IT WOULD REDUCE THE CAP AND REQUIRE THAT THAT AMOUNT BE... |
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THE MONEY COULD BE SPENT FOR THAT PURPOSE BUT IT WOULD BE UNDER THE CAP. |
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WHO CONTROLLED THE $100 MILLION? AS A DEFENSE? |
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HE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT? |
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THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. |
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THEY GET $100 MILLION THAT CAN SPEND ON THIS? |
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IS BELOW THE CAP. ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES SET AND DEFINED HERE CAN BE SPENT FOR THOSE PURPOSES. |
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THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE WILL GET THE MONEY. WILL THEY SET THEIR OWN INVESTIGATIVE STAFF?... |
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THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE. |
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THEY WILL SET UP A NEW OFFICE WITHIN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE TO MANAGE THIS $100 MILLION? |
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I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY WOULD PROCEED. |
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IS A GAO? |
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[INAUDIBLE] |
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I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU. COULD I DEFER THIS? |
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WE HAVE GOT A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT SENATOR FINE GOLD IS ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS IN THIS AMENDMENT.... |
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WE PASSED THIS LAST TIME IN COMMITTEE. THEIR PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE CAN MARKET WOULD NEVER BUILD A... |
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[INAUDIBLE] |
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THEY COULD. |
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THE SECRETARY OF HHS TALK TO ME IN HIS DEPARTMENT WAS INVESTIGATORS, AUDITORS, AND PEOPLE TO FILE... |
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WE HAVE A LOT OF INSPECTOR GENERAL'S AROUND HERE. I AM SURE SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE WOULD END UP WITH... |
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THIS MONEY IS NOT ONLY FOR AUDITORS. IT CAN BE USED FOR RANGE OF INITIATIVES. TO IMPROVE TESTING... |
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I WANT TO COMMEND THE SENATOR FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT. I AM DELIGHTED TO BE A CO- SPONSOR. I WOULD... |
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ANY OTHER DEBATE? |
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WHO SEEKS TO BE RECOGNIZED? |
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MY AMENDMENT WOULD CREATE A DEFICIT-NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND FOR THIS SUNSET COMMISSION. I WOULD INVITE... |
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LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENT YOU HAVE OFFERED, IT IS A GOOD IDEA. IF THE SENATOR WOULD EXCEPT ME AS A... |
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WE HAVE HAD SENATOR WHITEHOUSE COME TO ME A FEW WEEKS AGO AND SAID WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION IN THIS COMMITTEE... |
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MAY I JOIN AS A CO-SPONSOR. I THINK IT IS A FINE IDEA. |
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BIPARTISANSHIP? |
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IT HAS BROKEN OUT. |
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THERE IS HOPE. WE AGREED NOT TO VOTE UNTIL 12. WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? .... |
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I RECOMMEND WE CREATE A FUND TO HELP TO BE REIMBURSED WITHOUT THE ANNUAL DOLLAR LIMIT. |
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DO WE HAVE THAT AMENDMENT? TO BE PASSED OUT TO MEMBERS? THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BIPARTISAN.... |
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DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? |
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BECAUSE OF THE -- I HAVE CAUGHT THE BUG OF BIPARTISANSHIP. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED. |
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CENTER IN SAN WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS. |
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HE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A CO-SPONSOR. |
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IF I TAKE A MOMENT TO INDICATE THAT THE MEDICARE IMPROVEMENTS AND PATIENT PROTECTION ACT WHICH WAS... |
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THE CHAIRMAN IS CORRECT. IT DOES PROTECT THE BENEFICIARIES. IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE WHEN THE -- WHEN... |
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IN THE PIT -- DEBATE WE JUST HAD ON THE EXTENSION IT BECAME CLEAR TO EVERYONE HOW COUNTERPRODUCTIVE... |
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THIS IS WHY IT DID NOT UNDERSTAND ON SCORING ON SOME THINGS AROUND HERE. MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A GREAT... |
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THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY SENATOR SEEKING RECOGNITION ON THIS SIDE? |
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THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY DEFICIT-NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND TO IMPROVE THE SECURITY FUEL AMENDMENT.... |
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DO WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP ON THE AMENDMENT? |
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IF YOU COULD WITHHOLD FOR A MOMENT. SO WE HAVE IT PASSED OUT. |
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THIS IS A SECURITY DOMESTIC FUELS AMENDMENT. IT DOES THREE THINGS. CREATES A SECURE DOMESTIC FUEL ... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS AMENDMENT. I FIND MYSELF CONFLICTED ON THIS AMENDMENT. LET ME EXPRESS... |
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IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THIS EXISTING AMENDMENT, WE WILL GUARANTEE THAT THERE WILL... |
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IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO DRAFT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT END I WILL SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. |
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PLEASE DO. WE ARE NOW TO THE POINT WHERE COMMERCIAL CONTRACTORS WILL GUARANTEE 94% CARBON CAPTURE... |
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IF I COULD ASK -- |
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IF YOU PUT A 75% CARBON CAPTURE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE BUT THE BIG PROBLEM IS IS THE CONTRACT... |
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COULD I ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION? WOULD HE ACCEPT ANOTHER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WOULD, IN ADDITION... |
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ABSOLUTELY. |
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IF WE COULD HAVE OUR STAFFS WORK ON AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD CAPTURE THESE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS' TO YOURS,... |
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WHERE DID YOU GET THE LANGUAGE YOU JUST READ IDENTIFYING -- I AM IN AGREEMENT. HE DOES NOT SPECIFY... |
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I GOT IT FROM A STAFF MEMO. |
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IT IS NOT FROM HIS AMENDMENT. |
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IT IS NOT. |
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YOU ARE ARGUING THAT IT WAS TOO PRESCRIPTIVE. I WONDER WHY IT WOULD NOT BE BETTER TO LEAVE THE AMENDMENT... |
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I WOULD AGREE WITH THE SENATOR. AFTER I LOOK AT THE WORDING OF HIS AMENDMENT VERSUS STAFF DESCRIPTION... |
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THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BUNNING AMENDMENT -- IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO GIVE A PUSH TO THIS. THE DEFENSE... |
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I DID NOT PUT THE ALTERNATIVE FUELS IN SO THAT ALL COULD BE CONSIDERED. |
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I GET IT. MY STAFF WAS REFLECTING EARLIER FAUGH BUNNING LEGISLATION. THE SECOND WHEN WE DO NOT NEED... |
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I SEEK RECOGNITION TO OFFER WHAT IS -- I WILL DESCRIBE THIS BRIEFLY. THERE IS A SECTION 2 OF 2, DEFICIT-NEUTRAL... |
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IS THERE FURTHER DEBATE ON THE AMENDMENT? I WANT TO INDICATE THAT SENATOR CARDIN AND MERKLEY ARE CO-... |
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I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT DOES. |
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IT EXPANDS THE FUND IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK. |
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WHICH DOES WHAT? |
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TO INVEST IN CLEAN ENERGY AND PRESERVE THE ENVIRONMENT. IT ALLOWS FOR CONFERENCE REPORTS THAT WOULD... |
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HE IS ADDING IN ADDITION TO NATIONAL PARKS OCEANS AND COASTAL AREAS. |
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PROTECTIONS FROM WHAT? |
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ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION. |
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WITH THAT INCLUDE THE ESCAPES OR LANDSCAPES? -- VIEWSCAPES.? |
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IT COULD. |
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I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A STRETCH. IT IS NOT THE INTENTION THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE VIEWSCAPES. IT... |
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AN OIL RIG OUTSIDE SAN FRANCISCO WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. |
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IF THERE WERE A MARINE SANCTUARY THAT WERE CREATED, IT WOULD BE COVERED IF IT WERE DEFICIT-NEUTRAL.... |
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A QUESTION. |
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WITH REGARD TO THIS SECTION THAT IS BEING AMENDED, IS THAT AN AUTHORIZATION OR RESERVE FUND TO EXPEND... |
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IT DOES NONE OF THE ABOVE. IT IS A DEFINITEDEFICIT-NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND. THEY PROVIDE THE WAY IF IT... |
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I WOULD OBSERVE -- I DO NOT KNOW WHY IT PRESERVES -- WOULD NOT INCLUDE VIEWSCAPES AND LANDSCAPES.... |
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THAT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I HAVE NOT HAD THAT PUT TO ME WITH RESPECT TO THESE ITEMS. WHETHER... |
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I WONDER WHAT THE RELUCTANCES TO PROTECT THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE WHICH WAS THE... |
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I WILL STOP ICON TECH -- I WILL STOP MY COMMENTS. MOST AMERICANS WHO LIVE ALONG THE COAST LIKE TO... |
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IS THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT TO LIMIT OFFSHORE DRILLING? |
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NO. |
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WITH THE AMENDMENT AFFECTS OFFSHORE DRILLING? |
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ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT A SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION WERE PASSED BY THE RELEVANT AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE... |
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OCEANS AND COASTAL AREAS ARE NOT BY DEFINITION NATIONAL PARKS. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN... |
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THAT IS CORRECT. |
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I AM JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE |
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[LAUGHTER] |
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WE ARE A YEAR OLDER SO WE ARE MUCH SMARTER. |
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IN MY AREA OF ALABAMA, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OIL PRODUCING WELLS IN THE DAY, INSIDE DAUPHIN ISLAND.... |
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THAT IS CORRECT. |
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SENATOR WHITEHOUSE TALKED TO ME ABOUT HIS INTENT ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT. IT IS CLEAR TO ME HE HAD NO... |
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I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE GET BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE DAY. |
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BEFORE WE DO THAT, DID WE WANT TO DISPOSE OF AMENDS? |
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WE DICTATE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- WE COULD TAKE BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- |
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WE NEED TO WEIGH ON THE BUNNING AMENDMENT UNTIL WE HAVE A LANGUAGE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF... |
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THE WHITE HOUSE AMENDMENT ON OCEANS, AND WHEN SENATOR BUNNING GETS THE LANGUAGE AGREED TO, WE COULD... |
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IN THAT CASE, WHY DON'T WE LIST THE OTHER AMENDMENTS. CARDIN AND CORNYN -- IS THERE ANY OBJECTION... |
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THIS IS AN AMENDMENT ON THE DEBT DISCLOSURE. HAS EVERYBODY GOT IT? WE WILL MOVE FROM VIEWSCAPES TO... |
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I AGREE TO THIS AMENDMENT LAST YEAR. I KNOW SENATOR WHITEHOUSE AND OTHERS HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVE VIEWS... |
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I HAVE NO PROBLEM WORKING TO SEE IF WE CONFINE AND AGREEABLE PATTERN OR A SYSTEM FOR REPORTING, BUT... |
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I SUPPORTED THE BASIC IDEA LAST YEAR. OTHERS HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT DEEPER PRE DISPLAY IS. ... |
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I WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO ANYONE LISTENING AT THE NUMBERS WE ARE USING ABOUT THE DEBT AND THE DEFICIT... |
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THANK YOU FOR THAT OBSERVATION. YOU ARE RIGHT. IN ALL THESE BUDGET DOCUMENTS, THIS INFORMATION IS... |
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WHY IF IT WAS OFFERED AND ACCEPTED LAST YEAR WAS A NOT DONE THIS YEAR? |
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IT WAS IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENTS. THE WAY IT WORKED IN TERMS OF LAST YEAR, WITH THE ADOPTION IN THE... |
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WHY SHOULD WE HAVE FOLLOWED THAT COURSE OF ACTION THIS YEAR? |
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I DO NOT KNOW. SENATOR WARNER. |
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MY AMENDMENT IS A DEFICIT NEUTRAL AMENDMENT IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE POLICY HOLDERS ABOUT HEALTH CARE,... |
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I THINK IT IS A VERY CONSTRUCTIVE AMENDMENTS. I AM ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WELL THAT IS DEALING... |
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ON THIS POINT, I AGREE WITH THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA WAS THE PROPOSAL. LAST YEAR MYSELF AND SENATOR... |
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SENATOR GRASSLEY WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS A CO-SPONSOR. WOULD ANY OTHER MEMBERS LIKE TO BE ADDED AS CO-SPONSORS?... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS DOCUMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT SUBMITTED TO US BY HIS ENTIRE STAFF AND... |
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THE BUDGET INCREASE YOU PROPOSE IS 7% OF DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE FOR MY... |
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THE CENTER MADE REFERENCE TO MY BUDGET AND USE NUMBERS THAT ARE NOT MY BUDGET. MY NON-DEFENSE DISCRETIONARY... |
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NO, IN 10 YEARS. IF WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE SPENDING BY 7% FOR YEAR FOR 10 YEARS, THE BOTTOM LINE... |
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I HAVE A FIVE-YEAR BUDGET, AND AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS AGO FROM 520 FOUR BILLION DOLLARS TO 500 BIG... |
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I THINK WE ARE REALLY DEBATING WHETHER WE GO WITH THE POLICIES OF THE PAST THAT HAVE GOTTEN US HERE,... |
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I THINK THE SENATOR FROM ALABAMA HAS HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, AS THE SAYING GOES. THE ISSUE IN THIS... |
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IF I COULD JUST RESPOND MOMENTARILY. I AM IN VERY MUCH AGREEMENT THAT OUR LONG-TERM FISCAL SITUATION... |
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THIS IS NOT A FREEZE. THIS IS A FREEZE PLUS ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. |
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WE DID A STIMULUS PACKAGE BECAUSE OF THE VIEW THAT A FAILURE TO DO IT WHEN THE ECONOMY IS CONTRACTING... |
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WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SPENDING, WE TALK ABOUT SPENDING IN GENERAL TERMS AS ALL BEING EQUAL, THAT WE CANNOT... |
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I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I SUPPORT USING THE ENTIRE PAPER TOWEL ROLL. |
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WE HAVE SENATOR BUNNING YET REGION NEXT AND THEN SENATOR ALEXANDER. |
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THE BUDGET WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOES NOT INCLUDE ONE PENNY OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SPENDING -- NOT... |
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I THINK THEY HAVE AT LEAST DOUBLE THEIR BALANCE SHEET. |
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IT IS FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS. WE ARE LOOKING AT A BUDGET THAT CENTERED SESSIONS SAID WE OUGHT... |
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SENATOR ALEXANDER, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? |
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I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD RESPECTFULLY. YOU MENTIONED PRESIDENT HOOVER. HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE MARGOT'S TO A 7% INCREASE. I WILL IN KNOWLEDGE THAT OVER FIVE YEARS, EUROPE... |
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I DID NOT KNOW WHAT BUDGET YOU ARE REFERRING TO, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT MINE. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT... |
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OUR PROPOSAL THAT CONTAINS SPENDING TO A LEVEL FUNDING FOR TWO YEARS AND A 1% LEVEL FOR THREE YEARS... |
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SHOULD WE MOVE ON? WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THIS SIDE. |
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A MUCH SIMPLER AMENDMENT. THIS GOES BACK TO THAT ENERGY AND CLIMATE CHANGE RESERVE FUND WHICH REFERENCES... |
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COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THIS DOES? |
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I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE MOVER OF THE AMENDMENT TO EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT. I WILL SAY THAT I THINK IT... |
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I WILL TRY NOT TO GET INTO AN EXTENDED THING. IS THE PURPOSE TO EXTEND PROTECTION TO A LARGER NUMBER... |
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THIS ARISES IN THE SAME CONTEXT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS... |
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WOULD MAKE IT EASIER OR HARDER TO PUT A TRANSMISSION LINE 3 WILDERNESS AREA? IT IS FINE WITH ME TO... |
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THE ANSWER IS IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE AUTHORIZING COMMITTEE WROTE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANTED... |
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OTHER DEBATES ON THIS AMENDMENT OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THIS SIDE? |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDED TO REDUCE THE PUBLIC DEBT BY MORE THAN $55 BILLION BY REDUCING THE... |
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMMINENT. I WOULD RESISTER AMENDMENT, AND I WOULD RESISTED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.... |
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I GUESS I DO NOT ACCEPT THE LOGIC HERE OF THE BUDGET BROUGHT FORWARD. THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS... |
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IF YOU LOOK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, DEFENSE AS INCREASE GEOMETRICALLY COMPARED TO THE REST OF DISCRETIONARY... |
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YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET AS A PERCENTAGE OF GDP. THE SIMPLE FACT IS... |
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THERE IS NOTHING I LIKE BETTER THAN GETTING DOWN TO THE NUMBERS. HERE ARE THE FACTS. DEFENSE IS GOING... |
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ARE YOU INCLUDING ENTITLEMENT SPENDING? |
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DISCRETIONARY SPENDING DOES NOT INCLUDE ENTITLEMENTS. . . TO 3.6% OF GDP. ENTITLEMENTS, AS THE SENATOR... |
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YOU CANNOT SEPARATE THESE. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE, YOU REALLY CANNOT SEPARATE THEM, BECAUSE... |
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JUST ONE FINAL POINT. LET ME SAY TWO FINAL POINTS. WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING RECKLESSLY THIS YEAR. WE... |
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DOES SOMEBODY HAVE SOMETHING ON THIS SIDE? SENATOR? |
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YES. I DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT, AN ADJUSTMENT ON THE SPENDING TO HELP THE SBA, AND I WILL HAVE IT PASSED... |
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I THINK THE SENATOR FOR HIS AMENDMENT, AND I WOULD URGE COLLEAGUES TO ADOPT IT -- I THINK THE SENATOR.... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST ASK THE QUESTION, WHERE DOES THIS 920 ACCOUNT MONEY COME FROM? |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE. |
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I UNDERSTAND WITH IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK HERE, THERE IS ALREADY $7 BILLION IN THE ACCOUNT. IS THAT... |
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YES, AND THAT IS WAY BELOW WHERE 920 ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, I AM PROUD TO SAY, AND I AM... |
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NOW IS SENATOR -- NOW THAT SENATOR CARDIN IS PROPOSING THIS, THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT IS WITH CUTS.... |
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THAT IS CORRECT. |
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THIS WILL AFFECT VETERANS, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, STUDENT LOANS. |
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AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE QUESTION THAT SENATOR CORNYN MADE, AND MAYBE ANOTHER... |
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WELL, IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK CONSENT THAT THE 920 ACCOUNT BE IMMEDIATELY... |
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WELL, I WOULD NOT ACCEPT THAT FOR THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST. WE ALL UNDERSTAND. 920 IS THE GENERAL... |
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UNLESS WE CONVERT IT AND DIRECT IT AT THE AGENCIES. IT JUST SORT OF GOES AWAY. I AM JUST TRYING TO... |
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NO, 920 IS NOT A GAME. 921 REQUIRED ADJUSTMENTS AND WILL REQUIRE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE GENERAL OPERATING... |
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IN THE LAST FIVE BUDGETS, SO THEY INCLUDE A COUPLE OF OUR OWN, WHERE 920 ACCOUNTS HAVE BEEN USED?... |
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WE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. |
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AND WHEN IT REQUIRED AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD CUT, TO WHAT EXTENT THOSE CUTS WERE REQUIRED? NOT NOW, I... |
| 02:01:56 |
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IT IS A VERY LEGITIMATE QUESTION, AND WE WILL PROVIDE IT. WE ALL KNOW 920 ACCOUNTS ARE GENERAL OPERATIONS... |
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WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT. |
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WE WILL BE GLAD TO RECOUNT THE HISTORY. WE HAVE NOW REACHED THE HOUR OF -- HOUR OF NOON, AND I THINK... |
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SENATOR FEINGOLD. |
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ENERGY RESERVE. |
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THESE SENATORS. n]p CORRECT. WE AGREE ON THE LIST OF AMENDMENTS. WE PREVIOUSLY AGREED THERE WOULD... |
| 02:03:06 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE MAJORITY LEADER, MR. REED, SAID HE WAS WILLING TO CONSIDER PUTTING INTO... |
| 02:04:27 |
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I WOULD JUST SAY IN RESPONSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CHAIRMAN'S MARK A DEFICIT NEUTRAL FUNDS FOR... |
| 02:05:27 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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NO. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MOTION FAILS. |
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THE AMENDMENT FAILS. THE NEXT AMENDMENT FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE FEINGOLD AMENDMENT. SENATOR FEINGOLD?... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS COMMITTEE ADOPTED THE AMENDMENT THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET. IT WOULD... |
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ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? IF NOT, WE WILL VOTE ON THE FEINGOLD A MINUTE. THE CLERK WILL CALL... |
| 02:07:35 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. CHAIRMAN? |
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AYE. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN,. |
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THE FEINGOLD AMENDMENT IS PASSED. -- WE WILL VOTE ON THE FEINGOLD AMENDMENTS. I WILL DEFER THIS OTHER... |
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I THOUGHT YOU AND I HAD AN AGREEMENT. |
| 02:08:59 |
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WELL, I THINK YOU AND I DID. I JUST DO NOT THINK IT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO WRITING ON AN AMENDMENT WE... |
| 02:09:06 |
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ALL RIGHT, WE WILL WAIT FOR THE NEXT TRAUNCH. |
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I APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. |
| 02:09:21 |
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THIS IS THE DEFICIT NEUTRAL FUNDS, TO ALSO INCLUDE FOR THE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF OCEAN AND... |
| 02:10:09 |
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ANYONE WHO WANTS THE TIME IN OPPOSITION? -- APPRECIATE THE CHAIRMAN'S TIME. |
| 02:10:21 |
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THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. |
| 02:10:26 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. NELSON? |
| 02:10:31 |
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AYE. |
| 02:10:36 |
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MR. MENENDEZ? MR. SANDERS? MR. WHITEHOUSE? MR. WATER-PROOFEDS? MR. GRASSLEY? MR. SESSIONS? MR.... |
| 02:11:14 |
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AYE. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE AYES ARE 21. THE NAYS ARE 2. |
| 02:11:28 |
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I WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS AMENDMENT IF WE COULD DO IT ON A VOICE VOTE. WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE... |
| 02:11:35 |
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THAT IS FINE WITH ME. THANK YOU. |
| 02:11:38 |
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IF I COULD? |
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CERTAINLY. |
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I WOULD URGE THE GERMAN IN CONFERENCE TO ASSERT -- THE CHAIRMAN IN CONFERENCE TO ASSERT STRONGLY OUR... |
| 02:11:53 |
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COULD I SAY THIS? |
| 02:11:55 |
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YES. |
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I LIKE THIS AMENDMENT. I LIKED IT LAST YEAR. I LIKE IT THIS YEAR. THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE IS A WHOLE... |
| 02:12:13 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. -- I THINK IT IS CONSTRUCTIVE. |
| 02:12:21 |
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ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. SENATOR SESSIONS. |
| 02:12:29 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, STATES HAVE REDUCED THEIR SPENDING, AND OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES ARE LIKELY IN A LIKE... |
| 02:13:33 |
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I WOULD ASK COLLEAGUES TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK IT GOES TOO FAR. IT IS ALREADY IN THE CHAIRMAN'S... |
| 02:14:31 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. FEINGOLD? MR. NELSON? MR. MENENDEZ? MR. CARDIN? MR. STANDARDS PROVE -- MR. SANDERS?... |
| 02:15:27 |
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THE SESSION AMENDMENT FAILS. |
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COULD I ASK TO HAVE THAT DEBATE? WHEN WE PUT THE WORD "PUBLIC LANDS" IN, WE ARE ADDING A LOT MORE... |
| 02:15:59 |
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-- THAT IS A BIG PART OF WYOMING. |
| 02:16:05 |
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THIS WAS SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE. I THINK THE ONLY FAIR THING AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO PROCEED UNLESS... |
| 02:16:13 |
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I WOULD LIKE TO INSTEAD EXPAND ON MY EXPIRATION EARLIER, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL SATISFY THE SENATOR,... |
| 02:17:45 |
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I AM IN OPPOSITION. |
| 02:17:47 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DID, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT, BECAUSE WE... |
| 02:18:25 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN HAVE 15 SECONDS ON THAT. A LARGE PART OF MY STATE IS PUBLIC LANDS, AND ONE OF... |
| 02:19:08 |
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I WOULD JUST SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THIS VOTE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THIS TRAUNCH.... |
| 02:20:12 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. FEINGOLD? MR. NELSON? MR. MENENDEZ? MR. CARDIN? MR. SANDERS? MR. WHITEHOUSE? MR.... |
| 02:21:03 |
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AYE. |
| 02:21:13 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE AYES ARE 16. THE NAYS ARE 7. |
| 02:21:19 |
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THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. SENATOR CORNYN, YOUR AMENDMENT ON DEFENSE -- NON-DEFENSE -- NOT DISCRETIONARY... |
| 02:21:35 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS WOULD REDUCE THE GROWTH IN NON-DEFENSE DISCRETIONARY SPENDING TO MATCH... |
| 02:21:51 |
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I WOULD ASK, SENATOR CORNYN, YOU GET A PRIZE FOR THE BREVITY. I DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS... |
| 02:23:15 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. FEINGOLD? MR. NELSON? MR. MENENDEZ? MR. CARDIN? MR. WHITEHOUSE? MR. WARNER? MR.... |
| 02:24:12 |
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THE CHAIRMAN VOTES KNOW. |
| 02:24:17 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THE YAYS ARE 10, THE NAYS ARE 13. |
| 02:24:24 |
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THE AMENDMENT FAILS. THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS THE CARDIN AMENDMENT. |
| 02:24:32 |
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THIS IS TO INCREASE THE SBA ACCOUNTS. THIS COMES OUT OF THE HEARING BY THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMITTEE... |
| 02:25:14 |
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THIS MEANS EITHER AN ACROSS- THE-BOARD CUT, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD COME OUT OF VETERANS AND EDUCATION,... |
| 02:25:34 |
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THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. |
| 02:25:36 |
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[ROLL CALL] MR. FEINGOLD? MR. NELSON? MR. MENENDEZ? MR. CARDIN? MR. WHITEHOUSE? MR. WARNER? MR.... |
| 02:26:35 |
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THE RANKING MEMBER TRIED TO TRICK ME. THE CLERK WILL REPORT. |
| 02:26:48 |
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WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING YOUR VOTE, PLEASE? |
| 02:26:53 |
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AYE. |
| 02:26:58 |
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THE NAYS ARE 10. |
| 02:27:05 |
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THE CARDIN AMENDMENT PASSES. |
| 02:27:08 |
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PROBABLY EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO GO EAT RIGHT NOW. WOULD YOU LISTEN TO TWO SENTENCES BEFORE YOU GO,... |
| 02:31:36 |
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YOU KNOW, AND I USED TO LIKE YOU. LET ME JUST SAY -- OH, YOU ARE GOOD. YOU'RE WHITE SAID THE SAME... |
| 02:33:28 |
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I THOUGHT IT WAS TIME FOR CHANGE. |
| 02:33:31 |
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IT IS. IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, BUT REMEMBER, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS BATTLE LAST YEAR. WAIT, WAIT,... |
| 02:34:52 |
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HE DOES HAVE THE $250,000 LIMIT IN HIS PROPOSAL. HE ALSO HAS A $500,000 GROSS. I AM NOT DOING THE... |
| 02:35:07 |
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YES, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE $500,000 LIMIT HE HAD BASED ON SALES RATHER THAN... |
| 02:35:17 |
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IF YOU WANT TO GO THAT WAY, I WILL ADD THAT, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND I WILL BE THE SAME. WE WILL MAKE... |
| 02:35:32 |
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SERIOUSLY, THAT WAS, I THINK, A MISTAKE ON THEIR PART. YOU HAVE CORRECTED THAT PART OF THEIR AMENDMENT,... |
| 02:36:03 |
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YOU DID NOT ADDRESS OUR CONVERSATION OF TWO YEARS AGO -- ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENT. |
| 02:36:09 |
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HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST STATESMANLIKE THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN DONE IN THE... |
| 02:36:23 |
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ON MY PART. |
| 02:36:29 |
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I WAS THINKING OF A DIFFERENT WORD, BEGINNING WITH S. I WAS THINKING YOU WERE A STATESMAN, AND YOU... |
| 02:37:17 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR APPROACH TO THIS, AND I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL SENTIMENT. I NOT SEEN... |
| 02:37:42 |
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WILL THE SENATOR HOLD FOR JUST A MINUTE? WE SEE SENATORS LEAVING. AFTER THE SENATOR IS DONE, I THINK... |
| 02:38:47 |
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WE DEBATED THIS ISSUE AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THE FARM BILL, WHICH, AS YOU POINTED... |
| 02:40:37 |
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SENATOR, I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU WERE A VERY WISE MAN, BUT NEVER MORE SO THAN AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.... |
| 02:40:45 |
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IS THERE ANY CHANCE I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO OFFER? |
| 02:40:48 |
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PROBABLY NOT. YES, YOU WILL. ABSOLUTELY. |
| 02:40:51 |
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THANK YOU. |
| 02:40:53 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN? |
| 02:40:55 |
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SENATOR OSSETIANS? |
| 02:40:57 |
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I WOULD JUST ECHOES SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THE SENATOR RAISED -- SENATOR SESSIONS? 8yYOU CANNOT... |
| 02:42:12 |
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I WOULD JUST SAY THIS. THE FARM BILL PASSED LAST YEAR, AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, WAS FULLY... |
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