The Future of Afghanistan

Mar 11, 2009

National Interest Magazine

Milton Bearden talked about the future of Afghanistan. His article in the March/April 2009 issue of The National Interest, "Curse of the Khyber Pass," looks at ways to avoid defeat in Afghanistan. He argues that instead of focusing on troop escalation to quell violence, the Obama administration should turn to the provinces for answers and .. Read More
Milton Bearden talked about the future of Afghanistan. His article in the March/April 2009 issue of The National Interest, "Curse of the Khyber Pass," looks at ways to avoid defeat in Afghanistan. He argues that instead of focusing on troop escalation to quell violence, the Obama administration should turn to the provinces for answers and consider arming the militias. Milton Bearden is a retired Central Intelligence Agency (CIA} officer who managed the CIA's covert assistance to the Afghans from Pakistan during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He also served in Hong Kong, Switzerland, Nigeria, Sudan, and Germany.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:50 Unidentified Speaker EVERYONE, WE ARE GOING TO START NOW. IF I COULD HAVE BEEN A QUIET POLICE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING...
00:01:45 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NET STEPS WHICH I THINK WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A LOT OF THE THIS,...
00:24:19 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE GOING TO GO TO Q & A AND IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY YOURSELVES PLEASED THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. ...
00:24:37 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK BACK TO OUR ASPIRATIONS ARE THERE. I THINK THAT BOB GATES MAY...
00:26:03 Unidentified Speaker QUESTIONS?
00:26:05 Unidentified Speaker I AM NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH AFGHAN HISTORY SO I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WHAT IS BETWEEN ALEXANDER AND...
00:26:28 Unidentified Speaker NO, YOU COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE MOGULS WHO DID NOT ALWAYS PLAY MR. NICE GUY WHERE ABLE TO...
00:29:00 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, RIGHT HERE.
00:29:02 Unidentified Speaker IF THE PRESIDENT ASKED HOW DO I GET THIS WAR OFF MY BACK, WITH THE ANSWER MAY?
00:29:07 Unidentified Speaker HARD PART I HAVE TO SAY IN MY OWN MIND GET BEYOND THE THING, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BECAUSE YOU...
00:32:26 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT HERE AND THEN WE WILL GO TO MIKE.
00:32:28 Unidentified Speaker MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS IN AFGHANISTAN WERE ALSO NOT NECESSARILY AGITATED PROBLEMS AND...
00:32:59 Unidentified Speaker AND PROBABLY ISN'T SUSTAINABLE AS A STRATEGY BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I TALK TO THE DEFENSE SECRETARY...
00:35:08 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, --
00:35:14 Unidentified Speaker FOLLOWING UP ON PAKISTAN POLICY THEY HAVE A GOVERNMENT THERE, HOW DOES THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IN DEALING...
00:35:39 Unidentified Speaker YOU CAN'T -- ISLAMABAD IS AS CONSIDERED WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE PASHTUN REGION AS ANYBODY ELSE AND...
00:36:36 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL GO TO THIS GENTLEMAN THERE IF WE CAN ALL REMEMBER CANNOT IDENTIFY YOURSELVES.
00:36:45 Unidentified Speaker THIS THE OBJECTIVE IS AFGHANISTAN TO KEEP MAKING SURE THAT AL QAEDA CAN'T BE THERE, WHAT DOES THAT...
00:37:05 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WHAT IT MEANS IS IN THE MISSION FOR THE TROOPS. THE TROUBLE WITH AMERICAN TROOPS INCLUDING...
00:39:56 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, OVER HERE, PLEASE.
00:39:59 Unidentified Speaker I WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THE AP WHEN THEY SENT RUSSIAN TROOPS -- [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE SLOPES...
00:42:40 Unidentified Speaker WE MAY NEVER KNOW PLAN CAN TELL YOU ONE THING, I DO NOT BY THE BREZHNEV WE SUCKED THEM IN STORY, OR...
00:44:23 Unidentified Speaker KOSYGIN WOULD NOT ATTEND THAT BUREAU MEANING. SO SOFT AND ROBOT OF COURSE BREZHNEV CUNEGO -- COZY...
00:44:40 Unidentified Speaker ANYBODY THAT SIGNED THE ORDER ALIVE TODAY?
00:44:43 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T THINK SO.
00:44:45 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T EITHER.
00:44:47 Unidentified Speaker YOU KNOW, GORBACHEV IF HE WAS ON THE BOARD AT THAT MEMBER --
00:44:51 Unidentified Speaker HE DIDN'T SIGN.
00:44:54 Unidentified Speaker I REMEMBER BECAUSE THEY KEPT THE TOP SENIOR MEETINGS OUT OF THE DECISION --
00:45:00 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THAT THE PERSIANS THE STORY IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE GUY WHO TEASE ABOUT AND AS A HUGE SLICE...
00:45:25 Unidentified Speaker CAN WE TALK ABOUT JUST PAKISTAN? WE TEND TO COMPLETE THE TWO. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO TO TRY TO...
00:45:41 Unidentified Speaker I'M NOT SURE. I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT SINCE THIS IS NICELY ON THE RECORD. I'M NOT SURE THERE IS ANYTHING...
00:47:04 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, OKAY. BUT THEY CAN -- THEY CAN'T RUN A PRINTING PRESS FOR 24 HOURS A DAY. THEY ARE OUT. AND...
00:48:04 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, YEAH.
00:48:06 Unidentified Speaker DIE IN THE WEST, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST. YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY ARGUES VERY COMPELLINGLY AGAINST A ...
00:48:32 Unidentified Speaker OKAY. FIRST ON THE SURGE. DAN MCNEIL WAS THE ISEF COMMANDER WHO LEFT LAST SUMMER. HE WAS INTERVIEWED...
00:51:05 Unidentified Speaker IS THERE A WAY TO SUPPORT -- TO PROTECT OUR NATIONAL INTEREST FROM ELSEWHERE --
00:51:10 Unidentified Speaker SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF FOCUS BOGUS AND HELP THEM TRY TO SET STUFF...
00:51:55 Unidentified Speaker OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER HERE TO TAKE UP.
00:52:01 Unidentified Speaker TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST, IN YOUR TALK YOU LOOKED AT THE OF ORIGINAL DECISION TO GO INTO AFGHANISTAN AND...
00:53:41 Unidentified Speaker LET ME TAKE THE SECOND HALF OF THE FIRST. I AGREE COMPLETELY WHEN I SAY THAT THIS IS HIS -- THIS IS...
00:57:12 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL TAKE THESE TWO RIGHT HERE. [INAUDIBLE] COULD BE LIMITED TO FINDING OSAMA BIN LADEN AND LEAVING?...
00:57:57 Unidentified Speaker I WON'T BE TOO HARD ON THE ADMINISTRATION FOREGOING AND -- BEFORE GOING IN. I CAN'T SEE HOW ANY PRESIDENT...
01:00:33 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO -- LET ME DO THIS, YOU DO YOUR FOLLOW-UP QUESTION AND THEN WE WILL ALSO TAKE...
01:00:45 Unidentified Speaker 1I AM HEARING IS WE HAVE NO NATIONAL INTEREST IN AFGHANISTAN THAT WE CAN FEASIBLE PURSUE IN WHICH...
01:00:54 Unidentified Speaker LET ME TAKE BOTH OF THESE TOGETHER.
01:00:57 Unidentified Speaker I JUST HAVE A TWO-PART QUESTION. FIRST IF YOU COULD HELP ADDRESS AND CLEAR UP SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS...
01:01:48 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, LET ME TAKE THAT. THERE'S ALL KIND OF THINGS. I WOULD LOVE -- YOU KNOW, THE CIA OSAMA BIN LADEN...
01:04:51 Unidentified Speaker I'M GOING TO TRY TO FEEL THE LAST FEW QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY CAN I SEE HANDS? OKAY. I'M GOING...
01:05:47 Unidentified Speaker PETER, IF YOU COULD.
01:05:48 Unidentified Speaker PETER FROM JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITY. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE FOUR POINTS BROUGHT...
01:06:28 Unidentified Speaker AND THEN OUR FINAL ONE RIGHT HERE.
01:06:31 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. FROM THE EMBASSY OF BELGIUM. YOU HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE ARMY OF MILITIAS AND IN THE ARTICLE...
01:06:56 Unidentified Speaker OKAY. LET ME TAKE THAT ONE FIRST. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT...
01:10:14 Unidentified Speaker [INAUDIBLE]
01:10:18 Unidentified Speaker THEN HE WILL SURVIVE AS LONG AS HE HAS OUR PROTECTION, DON'T YOU THINK? AND THEN WHAT? I MEAN, BUT...
01:12:47 Unidentified Speaker THIS SEEMS LIKE A PERFECT AND. TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINI US. [APPLAUSE]

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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