Fiscal Year 2010 Budget Overview

Mar 3, 2009

House Committee Budget House Committee Ways and Means

Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag gave an overview of President Obama's budget proposals for fiscal year 2010. In his remarks he defended Obama administration proposals to provide tax cuts to Americans earning less that $250,000 while restoring prior tax rates to those earning more. He also responded to critics' charges that .. Read More
Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag gave an overview of President Obama's budget proposals for fiscal year 2010. In his remarks he defended Obama administration proposals to provide tax cuts to Americans earning less that $250,000 while restoring prior tax rates to those earning more. He also responded to critics' charges that the budget was based on overly optimistic assumptions about economic growth and would hurt the economy, saying that 95% of Americans would benefit from the proposals.

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00:00:25 Unidentified Speaker WHITE HOUSE BUDGET DIRECTOR PETER ORSZAG DEFENDED THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST FOR FY 2010. THE FORMER...
00:00:55 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative I CALL THE COMMITTEE TO ORDER. THE COMMITTEE CONVENES TODAY TO PURSUE THE ADMINISTRATION'S REQUEST...
00:04:36 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING A NUMBER -- HAVING A NUMBER OF HEARINGS ON THIS...
00:07:38 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU. OUR WITNESS THIS MORNING IS NO STRANGER TO THIS COMMITTEE. HE SERVED ABLY AND WELL AS THE...
00:08:25 Orzag, Peter R.Director THANK YOU TRANSCRIPT, MR. RYAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I COME BEFORE YOU AT THE TIME OF GREAT CONSEQUENCE...
00:18:52 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ORSZAG. THERE ARE MANY SIGNIFICANT FEATURES TO THE BUDGET REQUEST YOU BROUGHT...
00:19:20 Orzag, Peter R.Director MR. CHAIRMAN, AS WE DESCRIBED IN THE HEALTH RESERVE FUND IS A DOWN PAYMENT, A VERY SIGNIFICANT DOWN...
00:19:30 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative IS THAT 50%? 60%?
00:19:31 Orzag, Peter R.Director IT IS LIKELY TO BE THE MAJORITY OF THE COST BUT WHETHER 50, 60, 70 WILL DEPEND ON THE DETAILS OF WHAT...
00:20:08 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative WILL THAT INCLUDE POSSIBLY SOME REVENUES FROM AUCTIONING OF EMISSION LIMITS AND TAX AND TRADE IN?...
00:20:15 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE BUDGET DOES PROPOSE THAT BUT THAT IS -- THAT IS IN THE ENERGY AREA. IN HEALTH CARE WE DO HAVE...
00:20:46 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative CAN YOU OUTLINE THE BASIC OUTLINES OF THE HEALTH-CARE PROPOSAL THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SEND US OR...
00:20:55 Orzag, Peter R.Director TO THE BUDGET INCLUDES KEY PRINCIPLES ON THE HEALTH REFORM, BUT AGAIN YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT...
00:21:10 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THE STIMULUS BILL CONTAINED A VERY SIGNIFICANT ITEM, OVER $19 BILLION AS I RECALL FOR INFORMATION...
00:21:43 Orzag, Peter R.Director HELP INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY IS NECESSARY BUT NOT SUFFICIENT BY ITSELF. CAN MOVE TO MRI EFFICIENT HEALTH-CARE...
00:23:41 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative LET ME TURN TO THE DEFENSE SPENDING. YOU SHOWED US WHAT NON DEFENSE AND DISCRETIONARY WILL DO, AND...
00:23:56 Orzag, Peter R.Director DEFENSE SPENDING DECLINES AS A SHARE OF GDP, IN 2009 PROJECTED TO BE 4.9% AND ON AVERAGE OVER THE...
00:24:47 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS -- I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A CHART READY AT HAND -- BUT OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS DEFENSE...
00:25:19 Orzag, Peter R.Director THAT IS CORRECT FOR THE BASIC DEFENSE BUDGET.
00:25:23 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative WE ARE FIXING THE LEVEL HISTORICAL A.
00:25:25 Orzag, Peter R.Director THERE HAS BEEN A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE DEFENSE BUDGET AND THIS BUDGET, THE PRESIDENT'S...
00:25:39 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative FOUR SUPPLEMENTALS YOU'RE DOING AWAY WITH SUPPLEMENTALS BUT DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS WERE AT THE END...
00:25:59 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, FIRST LET'S STEP BACK AND REALIZE THERE WILL BE A SUPPLEMENTAL SUBMITTED THIS MONTH FOR THIS...
00:26:45 Unidentified Speaker MAYBE I SHOULD'VE DONE THIS AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE HAD FIVE WEEKS IN OFFICE AND THE BUDGET PROCESS...
00:27:03 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative ONE LAST QUESTION FROM ME. AT LEAST IN IN THE OUTLINE OF THE BUDGET WE GOT HERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT...
00:27:30 Orzag, Peter R.Director TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VIEW, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS THE CHART AND PUT UP SHOWS OF THE KEY TO OUR FISCAL...
00:28:29 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. RYAN.
00:28:31 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AS YOU NOTICE I HAVE IF YOU COUPLE CRITICISMS WITH THIS BUDGET. BUT LET ME...
00:29:13 Unidentified Speaker I APPRECIATE BACKED KANAKA WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC ASSUMPTIONS OF THIS. LOOKING AT YOUR. ...
00:30:04 Orzag, Peter R.Director I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE LET'S COMPARE OURSELVES TO CBO, AN INDEPENDENT MS. CBO ANALYSIS...
00:30:41 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
00:30:43 Orzag, Peter R.Director THIR ENOUGH, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROCESS HERE WITH ASSUMPTIONS ARE LOCKED AT A POINT IN TIME AND INCOMING...
00:31:02 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative BUT YOU WON'T AGREE CALIBER THOSE ASSUMPTIONS GIVEN THE LAST TIME OF ECONOMIC TURMOIL -- WILL STICK...
00:31:10 Orzag, Peter R.Director AS YOU KNOW IT IS BASED ON A SET OF ASSUMPTIONS LOCKDOWN, I DON'T THINK IT IS PRODUCTIVE TO BE CHASING...
00:31:27 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative IS A BORN TO PLAY OUT THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERINGLY HIGH -- IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YET THE BASELINE DON'T...
00:32:15 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME BRING THAT DOWN INTO TWO PARTS -- FIRST WITH REGARD TO THE SAVINGS ON THE WAR. IN THE TRADITIONAL...
00:32:37 Unidentified Speaker THE LEVEL FROM 2008. THE LAST FULL YEAR OF FIGHTING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
00:32:42 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative SO YOU ASSUMING YOUR BUDGET THAT WE REQUIRE TO HAVE A SEARCH FOR 10 YEARS EVEN THOUGH BY DEFINITION...
00:32:53 Orzag, Peter R.Director THAT IS THE TRADITIONAL WAY IN WHICH BUDGET PROJECTIONS HAVE BEEN DOWN AND OUT ALSO SAY AND THINK...
00:33:58 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative SELL $1.6 TRILLION OF THE SAVINGS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SEARCH FOR 10...
00:34:06 Orzag, Peter R.Director ABOUT A TRILLION AND A HALF BECAUSE OF THE WAR ENDS MARKET AND OF THIS BUDGET THAN WE THINK THE ALTERNATIVE...
00:34:15 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative CAN YOU BRING UP THE CHART, JOSE, A VETERAN OF DEFENSE DISCRETIONARY OF A GDP, PLEASE. AND THIS IS...
00:35:49 Orzag, Peter R.Director SLOWER GROWTH. I THINK THE ANSWER IS, YES, BECAUSE HERE IS THE CONTEXT -- FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THERE...
00:36:34 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative I THINK THE PROBLEM UP AROUND HERE IS MOST PROMINENT THING IS A TEMPORARY INCREASE AND THAT IS WHAT...
00:37:10 Orzag, Peter R.Director CORRECT.
00:37:13 Ryan, PaulU.S. Representative I'M GOING TO ASSUME WE HAVE A MARKET BEFORE APRIL SO THAT MEANS THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS WE WOULD...
00:37:47 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative WITHOUT OBJECTION SO ORDERED. MR. SCHWARTZ.
00:37:49 Schwartz, AllysonU.S. Representative THANK-YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS FIRST HEARING ON THE BUDGET. , CONGRATULATIONS ON...
00:41:04 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME START WITH THAT QUESTION. AGAIN, REMIND YOURSELF OF THAT GRAPH WITH MEDICARE AND MEDICAID ...
00:43:30 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MISS SWARTZ. LET ME TELL EVERY ONE OF THE CLOCK IS NOT WORKING SO WHEN WE GET DOWN TO FOUR...
00:43:44 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:43:46 Unidentified Speaker WELCOME BACK, DR. ORSZAG. SINCE CONGRESS HAS BECOME UNDER DEMOCRATIC CONTROL THEY HAVE RECENTLY ACHIEVED...
00:44:47 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE BUDGET THAT WE ARE INHERITING YES FOR PEACETIME.
00:44:51 Unidentified Speaker YOU ARE INHERITING THE BUDGET OR PROPOSING THIS BUDGET? CAN I27% IS FOR A YEAR IN WHICH WE ARE IN...
00:45:06 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative I AM LOOKING FOR A SIMPLE
00:45:07 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. ALSO WITH THIS BUDGET, WITH THIS DOUBLE THE NATIONAL DEBT IN EIGHT YEARS? IS THAT TRUE?...
00:45:17 Orzag, Peter R.Director UNDER CURRENT POLICY THE DEBT INCREASE WOULD BE EVEN LARGER. WE REDUCE THE DEFICIT BUT THERE STILL...
00:45:23 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative IS IT TRUE IN A YEARS THAT THE DEBT WOULD BE DOUBLED UNDER THIS BUDGET?
00:45:28 Unidentified Speaker YES BUT AGAIN IT IS AT MORE THAN IF WE FAIL TO ACT TO MEANT IS THAT IF YOU INCLUDE THE SEARCH LAST...
00:45:37 Orzag, Peter R.Director IF YOU INCLUDE THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF DOING THINGS, YES.
00:45:43 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative YOU SAID EARLIER IN YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU WANT TO AVOID THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST. LET ME READ YOU...
00:47:24 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, LET ME TAKE THE JAPANESE EXAMPLE. AT THE LESSON FROM THE JAPANESE EXAMPLE IS THE FAILURE TO...
00:48:09 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO A TAX IN THE LIMITED TIME I HAVE. IS IT NOT TRUE THAT UNDER THIS BUDGET WE...
00:48:40 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET'S TALK ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES. THE BUDGET PROPOSES SOME TAX CHANGES STARTING IN 2011 THAT WILL...
00:49:36 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED CAN I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN COME OUT LIKE TO BEGIN BY SAYING TO...
00:50:06 Hensarling, JebU.S. Representative WILL THE GENTLE LADY YIELD?
00:50:08 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative NOT ON MY TIME. BUT I THINK THE GENTLEMAN HEARD THE MESSAGE. I LIKE TO THANK DIRECTOR OR A DOG FOR...
00:50:27 Orzag, Peter R.Director NO.
00:50:29 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative NOAA DID NOT, MAY ASK YOU OF THE ENORMOUS DEBT THAT WE'RE FACING DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS WITH YOU...
00:50:48 Orzag, Peter R.Director WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT IN WRITING.
00:50:49 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative WOULD YOU SAY THAT THOSE TOGETHER CONSTITUTE OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS AT THIS POINT PRICE.
00:50:55 Orzag, Peter R.Director AGAIN IT DEPENDS HOW YOU DO THE ACCOUNTING BUT THE COST OF THE WAR INTO IRAQ IS CLOSE TO THAT FIGURE...
00:51:02 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative I THINK THE GENTLEMAN AND WILL APPRECIATE THOSE FIGURES FOR THE RECORD. LET ME MOVE TO THE TOPIC OF...
00:52:03 Orzag, Peter R.Director CONGRESSWOMAN, I THINK THAT THAT QUESTION IS PROBABLY BEST RECORD TO SECRETARY GEITHNER AND THAT WOULD...
00:52:11 Kaptur, Marcia "Marcy"U.S. Representative I WILL ASK HIM THAT TAMARA BUT I'M HOPING IN YOUR ROLE AS A LOOK AT THE BUDGETS FOR THESE DIFFERENT...
00:55:37 Garrett, ScottU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU DIRECTOR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND AGAIN AND TURNED MY COLLEAGUES...
00:59:27 Orzag, Peter R.Director AGAIN AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO A SEPARATE TREASURY ACTIVITIES FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACTIVITY IS JUST...
00:59:53 Garrett, ScottU.S. Representative AND IF YOU WANT AN HONEST BUDGET SHOULDN'T THAT BE ON THE LINE SO A TAXPAYER COULD THEORETICALLY BE...
01:00:05 Unidentified Speaker COMPETITION ASIDE, SHOULD IT BE INCLUDED?
01:00:07 Orzag, Peter R.Director I DON'T KNOW THAT I WILL SAY IT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE INCLUDED, I THINK I CAN UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION...
01:01:22 Garrett, ScottU.S. Representative AND SO SHOULD WE BE ABLE TO MOVE TOWARD THE SYSTEM IN BRITAIN TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE RISK OF THAT IS...
01:01:32 Orzag, Peter R.Director WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AGAIN AND THERE IS SOME ATTEMPT TO INCORPORATE RISC IN THE FEDERAL BUDGET ALREADY...
01:02:27 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. MR. BECERRA.
01:02:35 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. ORSZAG, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR APPOINTMENT....
01:04:04 Orzag, Peter R.Director CORRECT, SIX OUT OF 34.
01:04:05 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative I DON'T RECALL SEEING THAT OVER THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WHERE...
01:04:35 Orzag, Peter R.Director DON'T HAVE TO GET BACK TO WITH NAME IS THAT MEMBER BUT THE CUMULATIVE COST EARLIER IS IN THE RANGE...
01:04:44 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative SO WE CAN DO HEALTH CARE REFORM TO PROVIDE UNIVERSAL COVERAGE, MAKE IT FAR MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR...
01:05:07 Orzag, Peter R.Director I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. CLEARLY THERE IS A TIME DIMENSION TO THIS BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I DO...
01:05:25 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE TRILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU ESTIMATE FOR THE IRAQ WAR SO FAR PLUS THE MONEY...
01:06:08 Orzag, Peter R.Director YES, THE BUDGET INCLUDES $576 BILLION IN SUCH RELIEF.
01:06:11 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative FIVE ANGER 76 BILLION -- AND DIDN'T THE PRESIDENT TAKE INTO OFFICE TAKING OFFICE HAVE TO LIVE WITH...
01:06:26 Orzag, Peter R.Director YES, AGAIN COMING BACK TO THE POINT I MADE EARLIER IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION THE PRESIDENT INHERITED...
01:06:51 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative SO IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL WE DID IN THE PAST AND REALIZE HAD WE HAVE DIFFERENT POLICIES HAVE WE...
01:08:01 Unidentified Speaker I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD
01:08:13 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MR. HARPER.
01:08:15 Harper, GreggU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR JOB. AND I NOTICED WHEN THE PRESIDENT,...
01:09:05 Orzag, Peter R.Director I GUESS THE WAY I WOULD PUT IT IS GIVEN THE DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL THAT EXISTS WE CAN EITHER TRY...
01:09:40 Harper, GreggU.S. Representative WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND GETTING IT BACK, THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN MY STATE...
01:10:40 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL AS YOU NOTED, THERE ARE PROPOSALS IN THERE WITH REGARD TO THE END PART OF THE NUCLEAR FUEL CYCLE....
01:11:12 Harper, GreggU.S. Representative FROM A GLOBAL WARMING PERSPECTIVE, NUCLEAR IS, WOULD BE GOOD, WOULD IT NOT?
01:11:18 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT NUCLEAR ENERGY HAS LOWER CARBON EMISSIONS THAN FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, WE...
01:11:46 Unidentified Speaker ULTIMATELY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN AS PART OF THE CAP-AND-TRADE SYSTEM IS HIGHER ENERGY...
01:12:36 Harper, GreggU.S. Representative I KNOW OUR TIME IS ALMOST UP. ONE FINAL QUESTION DEALING WITH NATIONAL DEFENSE. OF COURSE IN THE NEWS...
01:13:04 Orzag, Peter R.Director AGAIN, I'M GOING TO DEFER BOTH BACK TO SECRETARY GATES AND SECRETARY CHU ON THE RELATED PROGRAMS AND...
01:13:18 Harper, GreggU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:13:24 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MR. DOGGETT.
01:13:26 Doggett, LloydU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU, DR. ORSZAG FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND IMPORTANT WORK ON THIS BUDGET....
01:14:56 Orzag, Peter R.Director YOU MAY THINK THAT MAY MEAN SOME FAVORABLE -- [INAUDIBLE]
01:15:03 Doggett, LloydU.S. Representative THE NEW EVIDENCE OUT IS THAT OVER 80% OF OUR LARGEST CORPORATIONS USE TAX HAVENS SUBSIDIARIES, AND...
01:17:03 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE REASON IS IF YOU DID AN AUCTION THE PERMITS IT WOULD REPRESENT THE LARGEST CORPORATE WELFARE PROGRAM...
01:17:51 Doggett, LloydU.S. Representative AND IN THAT REGARD WE LEARNED FROM THE MISADVENTURE AND EXPERIENCE AND THE EUROPEANS WHO DID GIVE...
01:18:20 Orzag, Peter R.Director THEY PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE. THERE'S LOTS OF PIECES TO THE BUDGET AND CLEARLY AGAIN I WANT TO COME...
01:18:37 Doggett, LloydU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
01:18:38 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. DR. ORSZAG, WE HEARD SUCH GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE...
01:18:49 Orzag, Peter R.Director HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB.
01:18:50 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF THE STIMULUS AND...
01:20:23 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET'S COME BACK TO NON-DEFENSE DISCRETIONARY SPENDING SO THE GRAPHITE BUT IT SHOWS THAT OVER TIME...
01:21:38 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN, DID THE PRESIDENT CONSIDER THOUGH FREEZING SPENDING FOR THIS VERY FIRST BUDGET IN ORDER...
01:21:59 Orzag, Peter R.Director I'M NOT -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER THAT PROPOSAL WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE PRESIDENT OR NOT, BUT LET...
01:22:53 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO MENTION SOMETHING I'M TREMENDOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT IN THIS BUDGET AND THEN...
01:23:29 Orzag, Peter R.Director I WAS ACTUALLY JUST CONFIRMING THAT YOU WERE EITHER FROM WYOMING OR MONTANA, SO I'M GLAD I DID CHECK...
01:24:34 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative ONE MORE QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN. SPEAKING OF CHANGING THE COURSE OF OUR BUDGET, THE PRESIDENT AS A...
01:25:05 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME COMMENT ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S RECEIVED A LOT OF ATTENTION THE THREE ARE THE LEVEL OF...
01:26:17 Lummis, CynthiaU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:26:19 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE, MR. ORSZAG, YOU'RE POINT. WE HAVE I THINK A QUARTER OF THE EARMARKS AS OPPOSED...
01:27:41 Orzag, Peter R.Director ABSOLUTELY. UNDER SECRETARY VILSACK'S LEADERSHIP THE BUDGET INCLUDES SUBSTANTIAL BENEFITS FOR FAMILY...
01:28:01 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative I WOULD LIKE YOUR HELP IN BRINGING IT FORWARD. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. I HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS I WANT...
01:29:12 Orzag, Peter R.Director THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, YES.
01:29:16 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative SUPER, THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE ON THE AREA OF MEDICARE REFORM. BECAUSE I DEEPLY...
01:30:52 Orzag, Peter R.Director I WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF SOFT PEDDLING ANYTHING, SO LET ME FIRST SAY CLEARLY IN MANY CASES...
01:31:19 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative BUT IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THESE EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH COST AREAS? IF IT IS MEDICARE ADVANTAGE, WHICH...
01:31:31 Orzag, Peter R.Director ACTUALLY WE BELIEVE THAT THE BIDDING PROCESS WILL LEAD TO THE LARGEST COST REDUCTIONS IN MEDICARE...
01:31:40 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative BUT CAN WE SUPERIMPOSE THE TWO?
01:31:44 Orzag, Peter R.Director THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS WE CAN DO THIS. WE'VE FOR A PROPOSAL WE THINK WILL WORK WELL.
01:31:49 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
01:31:50 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. THIS IS THE LARGEST BUDGET FOR SEPARATE. AT THE LARGEST...
01:32:11 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME JUST PREFACE BY SAYING OBVIOUSLY THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH THE PRESIDENT I'M GOING TO, YOU...
01:32:22 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU PERSONALLY MET WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT REFLECTING THIS BUDGET...
01:32:31 Orzag, Peter R.Director TO MY KNOWLEDGE I DID NOT PERSONALLY MEET WITH OUTSIDE REPRESENTATIVES WHILE THIS BUDGET WAS BEING...
01:32:41 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative YES, E-MAILS, CORRESPONDENCE, THAT KIND OF THING FROM OUTSIDE ENTITIES.
01:32:46 Orzag, Peter R.Director I DON'T LIVE ENTIRELY INSIDE A DOUBLE, SO INEVITABLY THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CONTACT ME THROUGH E-MAIL...
01:32:56 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative I ASK THIS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT STATES, QUOTE, IT'S NO SURPRISE -- SECRECY AND UNPRECEDENTED ACCESS...
01:33:43 Orzag, Peter R.Director AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LONG HISTORY OUT DISCUSSION BETWEEN CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE AS TO A BALANCE...
01:34:06 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative WERE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, WHICH IS NOT...
01:34:16 Orzag, Peter R.Director I DIDN'T INTEND TO.
01:34:17 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative WILL YOU ARE.
01:34:19 Orzag, Peter R.Director IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY WE ARE TAKING SEVERAL STEPS TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY. I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE,...
01:34:42 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT CONTACT BETWEEN STAFF AND THE PRESIDENT. HOW ABOUT THE PRESIDENT MEET...
01:34:51 Orzag, Peter R.Director AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE ROAD YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE ME DOWN HERE. I'M GOING TO JUST IF YOU WANT TO ...
01:35:06 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative LOGIN, AND THE REASON I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BUT THE REASON IS ACTUALLY READING FROM...
01:35:14 Orzag, Peter R.Director I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION IS HAPPY TO BE HELD TO A HISTORIC LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY....
01:35:31 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative I UNDERSTAND BUT AGAIN, SINCE THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORICAL WILL TRANSPARENCY LET ME ASK...
01:35:47 Orzag, Peter R.Director I GUESS WE ARE GOING TO PLAY THIS GAME A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.
01:35:50 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative WOULD THE GENTLEMAN SUSPEND? I THINK THE WITNESS STATED HIS POSITION AND STANDS THERE ON. SO I THINK...
01:36:02 Diaz-Balart, M.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING, I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT. THE WITNESS JUST SAID...
01:36:32 Orzag, Peter R.Director I THINK YOU'LL SEE A DIFFERENT PLAN GOING TO DEFER TO THE APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS TO GET BACK TO YOU...
01:36:39 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.
01:36:41 Boyd, AllenU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE THAT LINE OF QUESTIONING. MIGHT YOUR FRIEND FROM FLORIDA, I...
01:37:18 Unidentified Speaker AND WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? SIMPLY I MEAN THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BROUGHT US A BUDGET WHICH ACCOUNTS...
01:39:45 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME DEAL WITH THE SECOND QUESTION FIRST. SOME FORTUNATELY THE CASE TOO MANY PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN LEFT....
01:42:04 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. MR. MCGOVERN.
01:42:09 McGovern, JamesU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND DIRECTOR WARSAW, CONGRATULATIONS AND YOU INHERITED A MESS. THE WORST ECONOMY...
01:45:05 Orzag, Peter R.Director YES INOUYE IDENTIFIED A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. A PERSON STARTS WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS RECOVERY...
01:46:20 McGovern, JamesU.S. Representative I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER. AND THIS MAY NOT BE IN YOUR SEARCH OF ACTION BUT LET ME MAKE A PITCH SINCE...
01:47:14 Orzag, Peter R.Director I WOULD ADD IN ADDITION TO THE NUTRITION CITED BETTER INTEGRATION OF PURVIS 50 ADVERTS WOULD ALSO...
01:47:33 McGovern, JamesU.S. Representative THE PRESIDENT'S GOAL OF ENDING JOB HUNTER BY 2015 IS A LAUDABLE GOAL AND ONE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE...
01:48:07 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME EXPIRED. MR. TSONGAS.
01:48:10 Tsongas, Nicola "Niki" S.U.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU MR. ORSZAG, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I APPLIED A NEW PRESIDENT REPRESENTING...
01:49:12 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, I THINK THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. SOME FOCUS ON FINANCIAL EDUCATION WHICH...
01:50:16 Unidentified Speaker LET ME RAISE ONE OTHER TOPIC INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOESN'T MAKE A...
01:51:08 Tsongas, Nicola "Niki" S.U.S. Representative I WELCOME HEARING THAT AND I LOOK FOR A TWO READING THE PARTICULARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:51:15 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THIS MCCULLOUGH.
01:51:16 McCollum, BettyU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM GOING TO QUOTE PRESIDENT OBAMA YEAR. A GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO AWAKEN...
01:52:52 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME HIGHLIGHT THREE AREAS IN THE FIRST IS PREVIOUS BUDGETS WHEN IT PRESENTS A PICTURE IN THE FUTURE...
01:55:13 McCollum, BettyU.S. Representative LET ME POINT OUT BY INVESTING THE DOLLAR IN EDUCATION OR IN WRESTING A DOLLAR IN I.T. TECHNOLOGY HOW...
01:55:23 Orzag, Peter R.Director SURE, LET ME GIVE A FEW EXAMPLES. ACROSS A VARIETY OF AREAS SO LET'S TAKE THE GOVERNMENT'S OWN OPERATIONS...
01:57:01 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MR. EDWARDS OF TEXAS.
01:57:02 Edwards, ChetU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. ORSZAG, IF I COULD BORROW ON THE WORDS OF MY COLLEAGUE, MR. HENSARLING....
02:01:18 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL AGAIN NO DOUBT IN YOUR PROJECTIONS WERE ASSUMPTIONS ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THE BLUE CHIP ECONOMIC...
02:01:37 Edwards, ChetU.S. Representative IF THOSE NUMBERS TURN OUT FOR 2010, 11 OR 12 EVEN IN THE SHORT TERM TO NOT TO BE OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE...
02:01:52 Orzag, Peter R.Director WICKED BIND UP BEING TOO HIGH, THERE IS AMERICAN UNCERTAINTY AND, OF COURSE, WE WILL REVISIT THINGS...
02:02:11 Edwards, ChetU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
02:02:15 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative I RECOGNIZE MR. SCOTT AND AFTER THAT MR. LANSING IT IS HERE, MR. LAWRENCE SAID HE RETURNS, CONNECTICUT,...
02:02:29 Etheridge, BobU.S. Representative THANK-YOU, MR. ORSZAG, FOR BEING HERE TO DISCUSS THE 2010 BUDGET AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND...
02:04:07 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, LET ME FIRST SAY ALL OF THE ESTIMATES FROM ALL MD, CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE AND ELSEWHERE...
02:04:29 Etheridge, BobU.S. Representative OF NORTH CAROLINA IS A NONPROFIT.
02:04:32 Orzag, Peter R.Director I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME MORE EFFICIENT AND LESS EFFICIENT INTERMEDIARIES, BUT...
02:05:21 Etheridge, BobU.S. Representative I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU MORE ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT OF REMOVING THOSE JOBS FROM NORTH...
02:06:35 Orzag, Peter R.Director NOW WE ARE OUTSIDE OF HEALTH CARE, TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE.
02:06:40 Etheridge, BobU.S. Representative ABSOLUTELY WHICH WILL AFFECT ON HEALTH CARE.
02:06:43 Orzag, Peter R.Director ABSOLUTELY, THE RECOVERY ACT INCLUDE AN HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN SCIENCE, THE BUDGET BILLS ON THAT WITH...
02:07:52 Etheridge, BobU.S. Representative I COULDN'T AGREE MORE YEAR IN AND AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE THAT IS TRUE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND...
02:08:01 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT OF VIRGINIA.
02:08:03 Scott, Robert "Bobby"U.S. Representative THANK YOU DERRIN THANK YOU FOR COMING AND YOU HAVE BEEN FACED WITH A KIND OF NATIONAL DEBATE WITH...
02:10:30 Unidentified Speaker NOW, YOU ALSO MENTIONED HONESTY IN BUDGETING, AND THE 2001 INTO THE US AND THREE TAX CUTS PASSED THE...
02:10:53 Orzag, Peter R.Director IS A BORN INTERACTION, IT IS A VERY LARGE SHARE IN PART ON HOW YOU DO THE CALCULATION BUT A VERY SIGNIFICANT...
02:11:25 Scott, Robert "Bobby"U.S. Representative NOW, YOU HAVE A PLACE HOLDER FOR OVER $600 BILLION IN HEALTH CARE. WHAT CAN WE EXPECT WITH THAT?
02:11:31 Orzag, Peter R.Director WHICH YOU CAN EXPECT FROM THAT IS NOT ONLY OF DISHES THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROVIDER SIDE BUT ALSO...
02:12:04 Unidentified Speaker BASICALLY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ZERO UNDER THE POLICY TASK THAT WE ARE ON A WITHOUT THE BUDGET INTERVENTION,...
02:12:21 Scott, Robert "Bobby"U.S. Representative AND FOR ABOUT ONE-TENTH OF THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE MAKING PROFOUND CHANGES IN HEALTH CARE?
02:12:28 Orzag, Peter R.Director WE BELIEVE THAT THE HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM COULD BE MADE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND WE NEED TO DO THAT THIS...
02:12:59 Unidentified Speaker YES IN PARTICULAR THE NUMBER IS REDUCED FROM SOMETHING LIKE 15,000 TO EIGHT OR 9,000. A STILL HIGHER...
02:13:11 Scott, Robert "Bobby"U.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:13:16 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MR. SHORE IS YOUR.
02:13:19 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND. A SERIES OF HOPEFULLY QUICK QUESTIONS. THE BLUE-CHIP FORECAST A LITTLE...
02:13:34 Orzag, Peter R.Director A LONG-TERM ONE, NO, THE SHORT-TERM ONE IS TO VARYING DEGREES BUT AGAIN OF LOS TO PAY THE MOST ATTENTION...
02:13:55 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative A LOT HAS BEEN MADE OVER THIS IS A FAIRLY LARGE PEACETIME BUDGET MAY BE IN RECENT AMERICAN HISTORY...
02:14:14 Orzag, Peter R.Director I THINK IT IS CLEAR THIS IS A BOLD NEW DIRECTION FOR THE COUNTRY.
02:14:18 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative AND I ASSUME THAT THE ADMINISTRATION FEELS THIS IS THAT THE DIRECTION OF PEOPLE WANT TO GO?
02:14:23 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE DIRECTION THE PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FUTURE...
02:14:31 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative A LOT HAS BEEN MADE OVER TAX INCREASES AND REVENUE INCREASES IN THIS BUDGET YEAR IT ISN'T IT TRUE...
02:14:46 Orzag, Peter R.Director THERE IS A TAX DEDUCTION FOR AND I REPRESENT THE WORKING FAMILIES IN THIS BUDGET.
02:14:52 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative CANADA AMT AND NUMEROUS OTHERS I BELIEVE?
02:14:54 Orzag, Peter R.Director AND WE PROVIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE AMT DOES NOT TAKE OVER THE TAX CODE AND WE CONTINUE THE MIDDLE...
02:15:06 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative I AM SURPRISED THAT SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES DISMISS SOME OF THE BUSINESS REALLY ASPECTS...
02:15:27 Orzag, Peter R.Director LET ME AND DAN, MOST SMALL BUSINESSES NOW ARE STRUGGLING BECAUSE OF THE COLLAPSE IN DEMAND FOR THEIR...
02:16:30 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NOT A LOT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE PERFORMANCE OF OUTCOME REPORTING SUGGESTED IN THIS...
02:17:10 Orzag, Peter R.Director ABSOLUTELY AND AGAIN I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MEASURED PERFORMANCE HAS...
02:18:06 Schrader, KurtU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I YIELD MY TIME.
02:18:11 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative I THINK THE GENTLEMAN. MS. DELAURO OF CONNECTICUT.
02:18:14 DeLauro, RosaU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU MR. ORSZAG, WORKING AT AROUND SOME MY APOLOGIES FOR HOPPING IN...
02:21:15 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, LET ME FIRST SAY ONE OF THE MOTIVATIONS FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE BANK REFLECTS A CONCERN ABOUT...
02:22:08 DeLauro, RosaU.S. Representative I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I WILL LOOK FOR TO WORKING WITH YOU AND FLUSHING OUT THE DETAILS GIVEN THE...
02:22:47 Orzag, Peter R.Director I REMEMBER ONE WEEKEND IS SPENDING THE WEEKEND READING A BINDER ON THE EUROPEAN BEST AND BANK BECAUSE...
02:22:57 DeLauro, RosaU.S. Representative THANK YOU AND I HAVE A QUICK 16 SECONDS -- EARLY TOWN OF EDUCATION, $142 BILLION IN THE REINVESTMENT...
02:23:22 Orzag, Peter R.Director IN EARLY EDUCATION PRICING AND THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT INCREASES WHICH DOUBLES...
02:23:34 DeLauro, RosaU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:23:40 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN DERRIN DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I DO YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB ON YOUR...
02:25:27 Orzag, Peter R.Director OKAY, FIRST LET'S JUST AGAIN POINT OUT WE WANT TO GIVE HEALTH-CARE REFORM DONE THIS YEAR AND THE REASON...
02:28:02 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative AND SO THE NEW ACCOUNTING FOR SETTING UP WILL BE SET ASIDE AS A DOWN PAYMENT THAT WE CAN DRAW ON IT...
02:28:12 Orzag, Peter R.Director CORRECT.
02:28:13 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative CAN YOU TELL ME AT THIS POINT IS THAT THE PRESIDENT'S VISION OF THAT OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM THAT...
02:28:44 Orzag, Peter R.Director THE GOAL IS TO MOVE TOWARD UNIVERSAL COVERAGE AND I DON'T -- THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS OF DOING THAT...
02:29:01 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT THE MATURE THING SALI HOPE YOU LOOK AT, FIRST ONE OF THE THINGS...
02:30:23 Orzag, Peter R.Director CLEARLY ONE OF THE ISSUES INVOLVE AN EXISTING HEALTH-CARE SYSTEM IS THERE IN A LOT OF COST SHIFTING...
02:30:53 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MOLLOHAN IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION PLEASE -- GO AHEAD IF YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE.
02:31:01 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative PRESIDENT OBAMA RESERVE FUND ON THIS REPRESENTS THE VIEW TALKED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM PATH TO REFORM...
02:32:19 Orzag, Peter R.Director AGAIN THAT I AGREE WITH READING YOUR LETTER CHAIR ON A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS AND THAT IS A MAP TO...
02:33:33 Langevin, JamesU.S. Representative THEY HAVE BEEN A GODSEND IN THE DEMAND FOR HEALTH CARE AND IS OUT THERE AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE...
02:33:49 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative MRS. MORE.
02:33:53 Moore, GwenU.S. Representative THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ORSZAG. I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESIDENT'S EFFORT TO CUT THE BUDGET DEFICIT...
02:35:29 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, LET ME DEAL WITH THOSE IN TURN. THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A VERY IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS NOT ONLY ...
02:36:24 Moore, GwenU.S. Representative I WANT TO INTERRUPT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME, THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT, YOU'VE GOT TO BE WORKING...
02:37:32 Unidentified Speaker AND THEN THE OTHER PART. HOW DO WE GET TO CUTTING THE BUDGET DEFICIT IN HALF? IS THERE WITHOUT DEALING...
02:37:44 Orzag, Peter R.Director WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE NEED TO GET THE TRADE -- ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE TO GET THE BUDGET...
02:38:14 Moore, GwenU.S. Representative THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK 29 SECONDS.
02:38:20 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative WELL DONE, NOT ONLY GET AN A FOR PRESENTATION BUT FORBEARANCE AS WELL. WELL DONE IN THE AND WE LOOK...
02:38:28 Orzag, Peter R.Director THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:38:31 Spratt, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
02:38:32 Unidentified Speaker ONE FILE HOUSEKEEPING DETAILS, ALAN ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS WHO ARE UNABLE TO PRESENT...

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