40th Anniversary of Supreme Court Decision on Student Speech

Feb 11, 2009

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A discussion was held on the occasion of the 40th anniversary of U.S. Supreme Court case Tinker et al. v. Des Moines Independent Community School District et al.. The case involved three pupils who were suspended from public school for wearing black armbands in December 1965 to protest the government's policy in Vietnam. The case was heard .. Read More
A discussion was held on the occasion of the 40th anniversary of U.S. Supreme Court case Tinker et al. v. Des Moines Independent Community School District et al.. The case involved three pupils who were suspended from public school for wearing black armbands in December 1965 to protest the government's policy in Vietnam. The case was heard on November 12, 1968, and on February 24, 1969, in a 7-2 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that "students do not shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." This ruling that students have a right to express speech as long as it is not disruptive was the first Supreme Court ruling that specifically provided protection for students' free expression rights. Tom Hutton was an attorney for the National School Boards Association which filed a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court in support of a principal's decision to regulate student speech. On Monday, March 19, 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral argument in the Morse v. Frederick on whether high school principal Deborah Morse in Juneau, Alaska, violated student Joseph Frederick's free speech rights by suspending him for a banner that read "Bong Hits 4 Jesus."

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:01 Unidentified Speaker 30 YEARS AGO, AMERICA'S CABLE COMPANIES CREATED C-SPAN AS A PUBLIC SERVICE. TODAY, C-SPAN IS THE POLITICAL...
00:00:42 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS C-SPAN AND "AMERICA AND THE COURTS." 40 YEARS AGO, THE SUPREME COURT HANDED DOWN A LANDMARK...
00:01:19 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE JOINED BY MARY BETH STEGER, ONE OF THE STUDENTS FROM THE CASE. WHAT WAS THIS CASE ABOUT?
00:01:28 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS A LANDMARK DECISION. THE COURT DECIDED THAT STUDENTS DO HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO SPEAK IN SCHOOL,...
00:01:49 Unidentified Speaker THE SCHOOLHOUSE GATE IS IMPORTANT, WHY?
00:01:56 Unidentified Speaker STUDENTS HAVE EXERCISED THEIR FREE-SPEECH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL, BUT NOW WE HAVE CASES...
00:02:44 Unidentified Speaker LET'S GO BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED. SET THE SCENE FOR US. WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT THIS TIME? YOUR 13...
00:02:57 Unidentified Speaker THE YEAR WAS 1965. I WAS LIVING AND ORDINARY LIFE IN DES MOINES, IOWA, IN THE MIDWEST. I WAS CONCERNED...
00:05:23 Unidentified Speaker SO YOU DECIDED TO WEAR WHAT TO SCHOOL, AND WHOSE DECISION WAS IT THAT YOU WOULD WEAR THIS TO SCHOOL?...
00:05:30 Unidentified Speaker ALL OF US KIDS TOGETHER DECIDED WHAT TO DO. SOME THOUGHT WE SHOULD WHERE ALL BLACK CLOTHES, THEN WE...
00:06:40 Unidentified Speaker BUT YOU WENT AHEAD ANYWAY.
00:06:42 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A DILEMMA. WHEN I GO OUT AND TALK TO KIDS ABOUT THESE ISSUES, WHEN THERE IS...
00:07:17 Unidentified Speaker AND WHAT HAPPENED?
00:07:19 Unidentified Speaker WHEN WE GOT TO SCHOOL, THE KIDS WERE CONCERNED THAT I MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS,...
00:07:56 Unidentified Speaker WHAT IS FREE SPEECH IN THIS CASE, AS MARY BETH TINKER JUST LAID OUT THE CASE?
00:08:03 Unidentified Speaker THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECT FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THERE SOME CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH IT CAN BE LIMITED,...
00:08:19 Unidentified Speaker WHAT TYPES OF SPEECH FALL UNDER THIS UMBRELLA?
00:08:27 Unidentified Speaker BUT THE COURT DECIDED WAS THAT SPEECH DID NOT CONSTITUTE A MATERIAL ARE SUBSTANTIAL DISRUPTION TO...
00:08:54 Unidentified Speaker THE STUDENTS HAVE FREE SPEECH BEFORE THIS CAME TO COURT?
00:08:59 Unidentified Speaker THERE WAS A CASE ABOUT A GROUP OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESS STUDENTS WHO DID NOT WANT TO SALUTE THE FLAG....
00:09:45 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LISTEN TO A LITTLE BIT FROM TINKER VERSUS THE MORNING. THIS IS AN EXCHANGE FROM YOUR TURNING...
00:09:56 Unidentified Speaker THE SITUATION AND THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THIS SPECIFIC REGULATION DIRECTED ONLY TOWARD ONE SPECIFIC...
00:10:45 Unidentified Speaker A NARROWER REGULATION SAYS THAT YOU MAY NOT WEAR BANDS OR BUTTONS OR PLACARDS IN THAT CLASSROOM WOULD...
00:10:56 Unidentified Speaker NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, YOUR HONOR. I HAVE TO BE CANDID WITH THE COURT.
00:11:07 Unidentified Speaker WHY DON'T YOU HAVE TO SUSTAIN THAT POSITION IN THIS COURT?
00:11:11 Unidentified Speaker THEY ARE BAD REGULATION IN THIS CASE WAS DIRECTED TO WEARING THE ARM AND ANY TIME IN THE SCHOOL. THEY...
00:11:44 Unidentified Speaker WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO BRING THIS TO THE SUPREME COURT?
00:11:52 Unidentified Speaker I GUESS WE HAD LEARNED IN SCHOOL ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND WE FELT IT SHOULD...
00:12:32 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID IT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT?
00:12:36 Unidentified Speaker IT WENT TO THE DISTRICT COURT FIRST, AND THEN IT WENT TO THE APPEALS COURT, WHICH WAS DIVIDED. THE...
00:13:09 Unidentified Speaker WE HEARD JUSTICE WHITE TALKING ABOUT BEING DISRUPTIVE AND TESTING OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH. WHAT WAS...
00:13:23 Unidentified Speaker THE COURT DID NOT PROVIDE BRIGHT LINE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED A DISRUPTION IN WHAT IS NOT....
00:13:49 Unidentified Speaker WERE THE ARMBANDS AS DISRUPTIVE, ART HOW DID THEY DEFINE DISRUPTIVE?
00:13:58 Unidentified Speaker THE SPEECH IN THIS CASE WAS WEARING THE ARMBANDS.
00:14:04 Unidentified Speaker TALK ABOUT THE FIVE OTHER STUDENTS. NOT ALL OF THEM WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL, SO HOW DID YOU MEET UP...
00:14:12 Unidentified Speaker WE WERE ALL INVOLVED IN A YOUTH GROUP THROUGH THE UNITARIAN CHURCH. WE WERE IN CONTACT WITH EACH ...
00:14:44 Unidentified Speaker MERE APPREHENSION OR FEAR OF DISRUPTION WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO JUSTIFY ADMINISTRATORS' CENSORING OF...
00:14:55 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WAS THE REACTION OF YOUR COMMUNITY?
00:14:58 Unidentified Speaker SOME OF THE PEOPLE WERE SUPPORTIVE AND CALLED IT AND GAVE US POSE COURTS -- POSTCARDS. I HAVE ONE...
00:15:38 Unidentified Speaker I WAS UPSET. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I REALIZE HOW CRAZY AND DANGEROUS SOME PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE. A...
00:16:16 Unidentified Speaker DID YOU EVER THINK YOU DID NOT WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT?
00:16:23 Unidentified Speaker MY PARENTS DID NOT TELL US TO WHERE THE ARMBANDS, BUT ONCE WE DID, THEY SUPPORTED US AND STOOD BEHIND...
00:16:36 Unidentified Speaker WHAT IS YOUR FATHER NOT WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT?
00:16:40 Unidentified Speaker HE THOUGHT WE SHOULD TRY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MORE TO SEE IF WE COULD COME TO SOME AGREEMENT,...
00:17:08 Unidentified Speaker IF THERE HAD BEEN A RULE THAT THE STUDENTS IN 1965 HAD TO WEAR UNIFORMS, WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS...
00:17:22 Unidentified Speaker IF THEY HAD TO WEAR A UNIFORM, AND OUTSIDE THE UNIFORM, ANYTHING ELSE WAS IT RESTRICTED, WHAT SORT...
00:17:36 Unidentified Speaker INTERESTINGLY, SCHOOL UNIFORMS HAVE GENERALLY BEEN UPHELD BY LOWER COURTS. THE REASON SCHOOLS IMPLEMENT...
00:18:12 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A CLIP OF THE OPENING ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.
00:18:23 Unidentified Speaker THE RESPONDENTS BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO BASIC ISSUES INVOLVED HERE. THE FIRST, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS...
00:20:37 Unidentified Speaker THE ATTORNEY FOR THE SCHOOL IN THIS CASE. WHAT WAS AT THE HEART OF HIS ARGUMENT HERE?
00:20:47 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS THE VERY IMPORTANT DUTY IN FUNCTION OF SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS TO ENSURE THERE IS ORDER IN SCHOOLS....
00:21:13 Unidentified Speaker THE STUDENT'S LEGAL ARGUMENT WAS WHAT?
00:21:16 Unidentified Speaker THEY HAD OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ARTICULATE THEIR VIEWS ARE EXPRESSED THEIR VIEWS, AND THAT THEY...
00:21:34 Unidentified Speaker THE COURT NOTED THAT THE SCHOOL BANNED ARMBANDS BUT ALLOW OTHER FORMS OF POLITICAL DISCUSSION SUCH...
00:21:46 Unidentified Speaker IT SEEMED UNFAIR. IT SEEMED WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS OURSELVES FOR PEACE. THAT IS WHAT...
00:21:57 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WAS YOUR ATTORNEY ARGUING IN THIS CASE?
00:22:02 Unidentified Speaker THAT YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE FREE- SPEECH RIGHTS AND THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ONE...
00:22:23 Unidentified Speaker IF THE SCHOOL HAD BANNED ALL FORMS OF SYMBOLIC EXPRESSION, WHICH THEY HAVE HAD A STRONGER CASE?
00:22:31 Unidentified Speaker PERHAPS THEY WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE VIEWPOINT OF DISCRIMINATION. ONE PURPOSE...
00:22:57 Unidentified Speaker HAD THIS EXPERIENCE CHANGE YOUR VIEW ON FREE SPEECH?
00:23:00 Unidentified Speaker IT MADE ME REALIZE THAT THE CONSTITUTION COMES ALIVE WHEN YOU PUT IT INTO ACTION. THAT IS A WAY TO...
00:23:31 Unidentified Speaker TELLS ABOUT THE PEN IN YOUR LAPEL.
00:23:35 Unidentified Speaker IS A PICTURE OF THURGOOD MARSHALL, WHO LOVED YOUNG PEOPLE. HE WAS THE ATTORNEY IN THE BROWN DECISION,...
00:24:01 Unidentified Speaker HOW OFTEN DO YOU TALK TO STUDENTS, AND WHERE YOU GO?
00:24:06 Unidentified Speaker I AM GOING TO OHIO AND INDIANA SOON TO TALK TO STUDENTS ABOUT NEWSPAPER ISSUES. SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE...
00:24:37 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU TELL THEM THEY SHOULD GO TO COURT? YOU WERE 13 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. HOW DO YOU TALK TO YOUNGER...
00:24:53 Unidentified Speaker WHEN KIDS ASK WHAT THEY CAN DO TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES, I ADVISED THEM TO GET TOGETHER WITH OTHER...
00:25:26 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE MARY BETH SPEAK TO STUDENTS. THEY ALWAYS COME AWAY WITH THE SENSE OF...
00:25:49 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LISTEN TO A LITTLE MORE. HERE IS DAN JOHNSTON, YOUR ATTORNEY AND JUSTICE HUGO BLACK FROM THE...
00:26:02 Unidentified Speaker HE SEEMED TO HAVE ADMITTED SOMETHING. DO I AM UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE ADMITTED THE CONSTITUTION OF THE...
00:26:29 Unidentified Speaker NO, I DON'T BELIEVE I ADMITTED THAT, YOUR HONOR.
00:26:33 Unidentified Speaker I DIDN'T THINK YOU INTENDED TO. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE RIGHT TO MAKE SYMBOLIC SPEECH, AND IT DOES...
00:26:57 Unidentified Speaker IT IS IN THE RECORD HERE THAT FREE DISCUSSION IN SCHOOL IS PERMITTED.
00:27:03 Unidentified Speaker WHAT YOU THINK IS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN YOUR SCHOOL IN THE TEACHING OF GEOMETER, HISTORY, MATHEMATICS,...
00:27:27 Unidentified Speaker SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT INTERRUPTER DISRUPT THE ATMOSPHERE --
00:27:42 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU THINK THE CONSTITUTION PREVENTS THE SCHOOLS FROM BARRING THE DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY OF EMOTIONAL...
00:28:03 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WITHIN REASON, THAT IS TRUE.
00:28:08 Unidentified Speaker BUT YOU WOULD NOT SAY THAT IN DOING THAT THEY CAN PICK OUT ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE AND SAY THIS, YOU...
00:28:23 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD SAY TODAY MAY BE THE SAME PROPOSITION COULD COME UP IF THE ATMOSPHERE WAS DIFFERENT, IT SHOULD...
00:28:43 Unidentified Speaker THAT WAS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE SCHOOL. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION ABOUT BEING DISRUPTIVE AND THE...
00:29:00 Unidentified Speaker BACK IN 1969, AS WELL AS TODAY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR SCHOOLS TO FUNCTION IN AN ORDERLY MANNER....
00:29:29 Unidentified Speaker WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE? TALK ABOUT THE RULING AND ITS IMPACT IN THE IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT FOLLOWING...
00:29:42 Unidentified Speaker IS CERTAINLY WAS A LANDMARK FIRST AMENDMENT CASE FOR STUDENTS, IN THE SENSE THAT THE COURT HELD THAT...
00:30:28 Unidentified Speaker DID SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HONOR THIS RULING?
00:30:31 Unidentified Speaker TO VARYING DEGREES. I WOULDN'T SAY THERE WAS AS MUCH RESISTANCE AS THERE WAS TO BROWN, WHERE MANY...
00:30:56 Unidentified Speaker WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THIS CASE FOR YOU?
00:31:03 Unidentified Speaker I BECAME A NURSE. I WORKED MOSTLY WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, AND LEARN ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER RIGHTS THAT...
00:32:02 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LISTEN TO A LITTLE MORE FROM DAN JOHNSTON.
00:32:08 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE EXPRESSION OF AN OPINION, WHICH MIGHT ITSELF DISRUPT...
00:33:47 Unidentified Speaker FOR SCHOOLS AND FOR SCHOOL LAWYERS, TINKER BECAME THE FIRST POINT OF REFERENCE FOR STUDENT SPEECH...
00:34:24 Unidentified Speaker DID INTRODUCE LAWYERS INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM?
00:34:27 Unidentified Speaker THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THAT TREND HAS BECOME MORE INTENSE OVER THE YEARS....
00:35:27 Unidentified Speaker SOME FOLKS LOOK AT CASES ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE AND WORRY THERE WILL BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE. IF YOU GIVE...
00:35:40 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT TINKER HAS AFFECTED STUDENT RIGHTS?
00:35:46 Unidentified Speaker IT HAS EMPOWERED THEM TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS AND HAVE SOME BOUNDARIES FOR WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED...
00:35:54 Unidentified Speaker HAS IT BEEN A NEGATIVE IMPACT?
00:35:57 Unidentified Speaker THERE IS ALWAYS A DOWNSIDE TO A DECISION. FROM A SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE, TO THE EXPECTED TINKER IS USED...
00:36:44 Unidentified Speaker HOW DOES RIGHTS FOR STUDENTS STACK UP AGAINST RIGHTS FOR ADULTS?
00:36:51 Unidentified Speaker WHEN YOU RAN THE CLUB FOR RANHERRICK, THE COURT WAS VERY ATTENTIVE TO THE CONCERNS HE LAID OUT. THE...
00:37:50 Unidentified Speaker WHEN YOU LOOK AT CASES NOW, SHOULD STUDENTS' RIGHTS BE ON EQUAL FOOTING INSIDE SCHOOLS AS ADULTS RIGHT...
00:37:59 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE SPECIAL CHARACTERISTICS INSIDE THE SCHOOL WHERE OFFICIALS ACT IN THE PLACE OF PARENTS TO...
00:38:18 Unidentified Speaker HOW IS IT PLAYING OUT TODAY IN SCHOOLS?
00:38:21 Unidentified Speaker WE HAD A SUPREME COURT DECISION IN 2007 WHERE THE SUPREME COURT IN SELF-ADDRESSED TINKER. TINKER...
00:39:21 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE FREDERICK VERSUS MOORE'S CASE LATER. LET'S GO TO 1986.
00:39:32 Unidentified Speaker THIS CASE WAS ABOUT A YOUNG MAN WHO MADE A NOMINATING SPEECH FOR HIS FRIEND FOR STUDENT COUNCIL DURING...
00:40:24 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID THE TANKER CASE FROM 1969 PLAY OUT HERE?
00:40:29 Unidentified Speaker THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THAT IN TINKER, IT WAS SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS...
00:40:58 Unidentified Speaker DID THEY MAKE A POLITICAL DISTINCTION IN THIS CASE?
00:41:05 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE CERTAIN KINDS OF SPEECH THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT COVER. IN A SCHOOL CONTEXT, VULGARITY...
00:41:22 Unidentified Speaker THE COURT RULED THAT SCHOOLS WHAT IS THE COURT TALKING ABOUT HERE?
00:41:41 Unidentified Speaker THERE WAS A SENSE THAT THE SPEAK WAS -- THE SPEECH WAS NOT ARTICULATING A POINT OF VIEW IN THE SAME...
00:42:15 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DO YOU THINK?
00:42:18 Unidentified Speaker IT IS IN THE NATURE OF LAWMAKING THAT YOU DEAL WITH THIS PARTICULAR DISPUTE AND THESE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES,...
00:42:57 Unidentified Speaker WHAT OF THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS OF THE BETHEL DECISION TODAY IN SCHOOLS?
00:43:03 Unidentified Speaker IT HAS ESTABLISHED A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE EASY ONE IS, BOULDER AND LEWD SPEECH IS NOT PROTECTED, ...
00:43:46 Unidentified Speaker LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS DECISION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WATER THEY TALKING ABOUT HERE?
00:44:10 Unidentified Speaker STILL IS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL NEWSPAPER HAD WRITTEN TWO ARTICLES TO BE PRINTED IN THE...
00:45:04 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DID THE COURT'S DECISION MEAN?
00:45:06 Unidentified Speaker IT HAD AN EFFECT. IT IS THE ONLY SUPREME COURT DECISION ABOUT STUDENT NEWSPAPERS, SO IT IS A VERY...
00:45:38 Unidentified Speaker THEY -- THOSE WHO DISSENT ARGUED THAT SCHOOL AGENTS CANNOT ACT AS POLITICAL THOUGHT POLICE. YOUR THOUGHTS...
00:45:52 Unidentified Speaker THE MAJORITY OPINION ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THIS. SCHOOL OFFICIALS MAY LEARN THIS THE HARD WAY. IT WAS...
00:46:44 Unidentified Speaker HOW IS THIS PLACE -- THIS CASE PLAYING OUT IN TODAY'S SCHOOLS.
00:46:49 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE JOURNALS AND ADVOCATES WHO FEEL IT HERALDED AN ERA OF CENSORSHIP OF EVERY STUDENT NEWSPAPER....
00:47:26 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT IN THAT CASE? WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE BE WATCHING FOR?
00:47:32 Unidentified Speaker THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TRYING TO ARGUE THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE HELD LIABLE. TWO OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING....
00:48:08 Unidentified Speaker IN 2007, HERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE DEBORAH MORRIS CASE.
00:48:18 Unidentified Speaker ILLEGAL DRUGS AND THE GLORIFICATION OF THE DRUG CULTURE OR POOR FAMILIES SERIOUS PROBLEMS FOR OUR NATION....
00:48:53 Unidentified Speaker IS THIS -- WHAT IS THE RULE YOU WANT US TO ADOPT IN THIS CASE?
00:49:01 Unidentified Speaker THE RULE THAT IT ARTICULATED IN TANKER. IT IS THAT THERE IS IN FACT THE RIGHT TO POLITICAL SPEECH,...
00:49:21 Unidentified Speaker INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO. THIS WAS EDUCATION OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM.
00:49:33 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS A LEVEL OF GENERALITY THAT DOES NOT GET US VERY FAR. WHAT SPECIFICALLY DID IT DISRUPT?
00:49:45 Unidentified Speaker THE SCHOOL POLICY OF THE BOARD SAYS EMPHATICALLY THAT POLITICAL SPEECHES --
00:49:55 Unidentified Speaker IF THAT IS THE RULE, THE SCHOOL CAN MAKE ANY RULE THAT IT ONCE, AND IT ANYONE VIOLATES IT, IT IS DISRUPTIVE...
00:50:04 Unidentified Speaker NOT AT ALL. THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THIS COURT AND A TANKER ARTICULATED A RULE THAT ALLOWS THE SCHOOL...
00:50:27 Unidentified Speaker SUPPOSE YOU HAVE A MISSION TO HAVE A GLOBAL SCHOOL. CAN THEY BANNED AMERICAN FLAGS?
00:50:32 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS CASE IS ULTIMATELY ABOUT DRUGS AND OTHER ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES.
00:50:43 Unidentified Speaker JOINING US NOW IS JOSEPH FREDERICK FROM CHINA. TELL US ABOUT YOUR CASE.
00:50:57 Unidentified Speaker ORIGINALLY, THE INCIDENT WAS PRETTY MUCH JUST A PRANK. I ORGANIZED THEM TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING...
00:51:40 Unidentified Speaker WHY DID YOU HAVE THAT SIGN, AND WHAT WAS THE MEANING BEHIND IT?
00:51:50 Unidentified Speaker WE MADE IT FOR -- TO HOLD UP DURING THE TORCH RELAY.
00:51:54 Unidentified Speaker WHAT KIND OF SPEECH WERE ADVOCATING?
00:52:02 Unidentified Speaker I WAS JUST EXERCISING MY RIGHTS OF FREE SPEECH. THERE WAS NOT REALLY A GOAL OR POLITICAL PURPOSE FOR...
00:53:51 Unidentified Speaker THE SCHOOL ARGUED THAT YOUR SON PROMOTED DRUG USE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE?
00:53:59 Unidentified Speaker MY FEELING IS THAT I THINK THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE USE THE DRUG USED...
00:54:20 Unidentified Speaker ARE YOU TEACHING YOUR STUDENTS ABOUT FREE SPEECH IN CHINA?
00:54:25 Unidentified Speaker I AM AN ENGLISH TEACHER. I TEACH A LITTLE ABOUT CULTURE AND WHAT NOT. I BASICALLY TEACH ENGLISH AND...
00:54:39 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
00:55:01 Unidentified Speaker PROFESSOR, WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE?
00:55:05 Unidentified Speaker JOSEPH FREDERICK WAS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND HE SHOWED UP LATE TO SCHOOL ONE DAY. IT HAPPENED...
00:55:49 Unidentified Speaker THE JUSTICE WARNED ABOUT A CHILLING EFFECT ON STUDENTS' SPEECH QUESTIONING THE WAR ON DRUGS. IS THAT...
00:56:01 Unidentified Speaker THE JUSTICES TO THE PARTICULAR FACTS OF THE SPEECH IN THIS CASE, AND BY THE PLAINTIFF'S OWN ADMISSION,...
00:56:31 Unidentified Speaker I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THAT. THE COURT, WHEN RENTING ITS DECISION -- RENDERING...
00:57:09 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ARE STUDENT FREE-SPEECH RIGHTS LIKE TODAY?
00:57:12 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ALIVE AND WELL IN SCHOOLS. ANY TEACHER WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU THE SAME...
00:57:34 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE, BUT I WOULD URGE PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IS NOT JUST HAPPEN. STUDENTS AND EDUCATORS...
00:58:00 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE INTERNET?
00:58:03 Unidentified Speaker IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO WATCH, BECAUSE BOTH THE TECHNOLOGY AND SOCIAL PHENOMENA THAT COME WITH THAT...
00:58:57 Unidentified Speaker ARE THEIR CURRENT CASE IS PENDING ADDRESSING THE INTERNET AND STUDENTS' FREE-SPEECH RIGHTS?
00:59:03 Unidentified Speaker I BELIEVE THERE ARE. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LOWER COURT HOLDINGS ABOUT THE LIMITS OF SPEECH ON LINE....
00:59:51 Unidentified Speaker HOW TO SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS AVOID CENSORING THE INTERNET?
00:59:57 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAVE TO START OFF BY RECOGNIZING THAT SCHOOLS DO NOT VIEW THEIR MISSION AS BEING THE INTERNET...
01:00:58 Unidentified Speaker TODAY, IS TINKER A GOOD LAW?
01:01:02 Unidentified Speaker IT HAS NOT BEEN OVERTURNED, SO IT DOES STILL APPLY IN SCHOOLS.
01:01:06 Unidentified Speaker IS STILL THE FIRST POINT OF REFERENCE.
01:01:16 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MARY BETH TINKER WHO JOINED US EARLIER ON THE...

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