Global Financial Crisis

Feb 5, 2009

Chicago Council on Global Affairs

The panel talked about the implications and possible effectiveness of the America Recovery and Reinvestment Act. They also talked about the causes and implications of commodity prices. The format of the discussion relied on the panelists answering prepared question followed by questions from the audience. "Maxed Out: How the World Is Going .. Read More
The panel talked about the implications and possible effectiveness of the America Recovery and Reinvestment Act. They also talked about the causes and implications of commodity prices. The format of the discussion relied on the panelists answering prepared question followed by questions from the audience. "Maxed Out: How the World Is Going Broke and Who Gets the Credit," a program of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, was held at the Sonotheque. This was part of a larger series called the Globally Occupied Attention (GOAt) programs.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:04 Unidentified Speaker 30 YEARS AGO, AMERICA'S CABLE COMPANIES CREATED C-SPAN AS A PUBLIC SERVICE. TODAY, C-SPAN IS THE POLITICAL...
00:00:24 Unidentified Speaker
00:00:25 Unidentified Speaker THE ECONOMIC STIMULUS BILL AND THE OUTLOOK FOR THE NATIONAL AND WORLD ECONOMY ARE DISCUSSED THEATCHICAGO...
00:00:37 Unidentified Speaker IT'S A UNIQUE AND DYNAMIC SERIES THAT TAKES PLACE IN CHICAGO NEIGHBORHOOD BARS AND MUSIC VENUES. ...
00:03:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. BEFORE WE BEGIN, THE COUNCIL'S YOUNG PROFESSIONALS. IT'S A MEMBERSHIP SERIES THAT BRINGS...
00:04:37 Unidentified Speaker THANKS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. WELCOME, CHARLIE. WELCOME ADOLFO. WE LOOK FORWARD...
00:05:55 Unidentified Speaker YOU WANT A QUICK ANSWER? PROBABLY, NO, BUT I CAN ELABORATE ON THAT. IT'S A VERY BROAD PACKAGE, AND...
00:09:34 Unidentified Speaker SO IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE SAYING YES AND NO BUT PERHAPS LARGELY NO. IT'S NOT ENTIRELY THE RIGHT PACKAGE...
00:09:41 Unidentified Speaker NO, IT'S NOT. THERE ARE SOME USEFUL PROVISIONS, BUT THERE ARE SOME PARTS THAT IS -- ALMOST $500 BILLION...
00:09:58 Unidentified Speaker YOU DIDN'T USE YOUR WHOLE FIVE MINUTES. I WANTED YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO CLARIFY. CHARLIE, YOUR VIEWS....
00:10:04 Unidentified Speaker MY SHORT ANSWER IS THANK GOODNESS FOR THE SENATE BECAUSE I'M HOPING THAT THEY MIGHT FIX THIS THING....
00:14:48 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU BOTH. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF LEADS THERE THAT WE'LL PICK UP ON IN SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT...
00:15:25 Unidentified Speaker THE MOST IMPORTANT PART WAS REALLY ON THE QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT'S THE PRIVATE SECTOR'S ROLE IN JOB...
00:16:25 Unidentified Speaker IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE FIRST. WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR'S ROLE IN GENERATING ECONOMIC...
00:16:41 Unidentified Speaker UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER TO THIS. IN FACT, I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYBE ADOLFO CAN ANSWER...
00:18:52 Unidentified Speaker LET ME REPEAT THE QUESTION. MANY LIKEN OBAMA'S STIMULUS PACKAGE TO NEW DEAL EFFORTS EMPHASIZING GOVERNMENT...
00:19:09 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO TAKE IT, STEP BACK ON THIS IDEA OF NEW DEAL. I THINK THAT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE...
00:23:49 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE THERE. MAYBE I WILL ASK A QUICK QUESTION, 20 SECONDS EACH. IF THE CURRENTLY...
00:24:04 Unidentified Speaker I BELIEVE WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUT OF THE RECESSION IN 12 MONTHS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT...
00:24:25 Unidentified Speaker CHARLIE?
00:24:26 Unidentified Speaker I'M NOT THAT OPTIMISTIC. I AGREE THAT THERE WILL BE A NATURAL RECOVERY. I THINK IT WILL TAKE LONGER...
00:24:57 Unidentified Speaker SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT, MOVING TO A GLOBAL VIEW AND ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF KEY COMMODITIES,...
00:25:34 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN SOME OF THE ECONOMIES RELYING HEAVILY ON COMMODITY AND FOOD THAT...
00:29:16 Unidentified Speaker POLITICAL DIMENSION IS VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU FOR THOSE OBSERVATIONS. CHARLIE, THE PRICE OF OIL,...
00:29:33 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WE SAW SOME BUBBLES, CERTAINLY IN THE OIL MARKET, WHEN THEY WENT UP REALLY HIGH WHEN WE HIT...
00:34:32 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR BRIDGING THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL TO THE GLOBAL AGAIN AND GETTING BACK TO THE...
00:35:51 Unidentified Speaker I FEEL VERY RELIEVED BY THE STATEMENT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY A MAJOR CONCERN....
00:39:13 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. CHARLIE, YOUR VIEWS ON THIS ISSUE?
00:39:16 Unidentified Speaker IN SPIRIT I AGREE ENTIRELY. THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS THIS IS A BAD IDEA. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN RUNNING...
00:42:48 Unidentified Speaker LET ME ASK YOU BOTH ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION DIGGING IN ON THE TRADE ISSUE. IF BOTH OF YOU AGREE SO...
00:43:31 Unidentified Speaker LET CHARLIE GO FIRST.
00:43:34 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IT'S BASED ON THIS MYTH THAT IS BASICALLY IF WE BUY AMERICAN STEEL, IT IS' VERY OBVIOUS WE...
00:44:46 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY HERE IN CHICAGO AND IN THE MIDWEST. WE REALLY SHOULD...
00:46:13 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION. NUMBER FIVE. I'LL ASK BOTH OF YOU TO KEEP IT SHORT. AT THE RECENT WORLD...
00:46:48 Unidentified Speaker I THINK BASICALLY, OTHER MAJOR ECONOMIES AROUND THE WORLD NEED TO BE HAVING THE SAME BASIC DISCUSSION...
00:49:42 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
00:49:45 Unidentified Speaker I CAN ONLY REINFORCE WHAT CHARLIE JUST SAID. I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO BE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE GLOBALLY....
00:53:36 Unidentified Speaker IN A CONTINUING ATTEMPT TO FIND SOMETHING YOU DISAGREE ON, ASK FOR A QUICK 20-SECOND RESPONSE ON THE...
00:53:57 Unidentified Speaker I'M NOT SURE WE WILL FIND AGREEMENT BUT MAYBE HE'S GOT AN ANSWER THAT'S BETTER THAN MINE. AIM NOT...
00:55:33 Unidentified Speaker ADOLFO? CHINA AND INDIA.
00:55:36 Unidentified Speaker CHINA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF BEING TOO BIG TO CHANGE IDEA. IN THE SENSE THAT THEY OWN $1.3 TRILLION...
00:58:03 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHARLIE AND ADOLFO. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE....
00:58:30 Unidentified Speaker SHEILA WINEBERG, INSTITUTE FOR TRUTH IN ACCOUNTING. DIDN'T WE JUST GIVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT $700...
00:59:14 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT TO ONE QUESTION. WHAT'S THE ONE QUESTION? WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY COMING FROM?
00:59:18 Unidentified Speaker WITH WHAT MONEY WOULD BE THE QUESTION.
00:59:20 Unidentified Speaker OKAY. GIVE EACH OF YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
00:59:24 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE BORROWING THAT MONEY. THERE IS REALLY NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE BORROWING. THANK YOU FOR...
01:00:26 Unidentified Speaker CHARLIE?
01:00:28 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD SAY THE ONE THING WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT T.A.R.P. IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTER FACTUAL IS....
01:02:07 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THAT GREAT QUESTION.
01:02:12 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS PAUL, AND MY QUESTION IS TO EITHER ONE OF YOU BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN MENTIONED...
01:02:47 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS THE TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COMMON CURRENCY IN EUROPE. I THINK THE EUROPEAN UNION IS COMING...
01:05:42 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION.
01:05:49 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS JOHN ANDERSON. I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION THAT PERTAINS TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING BROKE...
01:06:34 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK THEY STILL HAVE SOME ROOM FOR OTHER KINDS OF INTERVENTION. SO ADOLFO MENTIONED THEY...
01:07:50 Unidentified Speaker I'M MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE RECOVERY WHICH MAKES ME MORE PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THE SPECIFIC POINTS BECAUSE...
01:10:43 Unidentified Speaker ONE TINY THING. TO FOLLOW ON THAT, THE PROBLEM, THE POLITICAL CHALLENGE IS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT IS A...
01:11:35 Unidentified Speaker THE NEXT QUESTION.
01:11:39 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS PABLO AND I'M HERE WITH ERNST AND YOUNG. THIS QUESTION IS MAINLY ADDRESSED TO CHARLIE WHELAN,...
01:12:10 Unidentified Speaker SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO ENGINEER THE TAX IN A...
01:13:12 Unidentified Speaker I'LL BE HAPPY TO PASS ON THE PARTISAN POLITICAL QUESTION.
01:13:16 Unidentified Speaker MAYBE I COULD INVITE TO YOU TALK ABOUT THE QUESTION OF ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND FUEL USE AND CLEAN TECHNOLOGIES...
01:13:38 Unidentified Speaker IT WILL. IT'S AN EFFECT THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN. IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT THE PRIZE TO BE QUITE FRANK...
01:15:16 Unidentified Speaker NEXT QUESTION.
01:15:18 Unidentified Speaker JUST GOING ON THE TITLE OF THE PROGRAM, MAXED OUT, HOW THE WORLD IS GOING BROKE AND WHO GETS THE CREDIT,...
01:18:30 Unidentified Speaker IN CHICAGO WE ALWAYS ENJOY TO BLAME NEW YORK FOR ANYTHING, SO THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD POINT, BUT I THINK...
01:21:02 Unidentified Speaker SO ARE YOU SAYING WE CAN JUST CONTINUE, LIKE WHEN WE GET OUT OF THIS, ONE YEAR, CAN WE JUST GO BACK...
01:21:14 Unidentified Speaker I HOPE WE LEARN. I HOE WE LEARN A LESSON. IDEALLY AFTER THIS RECESSION AND AFTER THIS CRISIS WE WILL...
01:21:47 Unidentified Speaker EACH LINK IN THE CHAIN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BEHAVIOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED. IT WILL...
01:23:15 Unidentified Speaker MY QUESTION RESTS ON THREE DATA POINTS YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, THE FIRST ONE BEING BASILI,...
01:24:04 Unidentified Speaker ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A CRACK
01:24:05 Unidentified Speaker YES. I CATCH A PARADOX. YOU ARE PERFECTLY RIGHT ABOUT THE TOO BIG TO FAIL PROBLEM, BUT OUR POLICY...
01:26:42 Unidentified Speaker CHARLIE?
01:26:44 Unidentified Speaker MY FEAR IS BASICALLY WE KNOW THE PENDULUM ON REGULATION IS GOING TO COME WHIPPING BACK AND IT WILL...
01:27:50 Unidentified Speaker NEXT QUESTION.
01:27:51 Unidentified Speaker GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS REG MONTAGUE. I'M WITH ERNST & YOUNG.
01:27:58 Unidentified Speaker WHO AGAIN?
01:27:59 Unidentified Speaker ERNST & YOUNG AND MY QUESTION IS REALLY LINKED TO AN EARLIER POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THE LINK IN...
01:28:28 Unidentified Speaker WELL, IN THE SHORT RUN IT'S NOT SO GREAT BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU'RE SAVING NOW, HOWEVER HEALTHY IT IS...
01:30:02 Unidentified Speaker I THINK YOU NAILED IT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A TRANSITION PHASE IN WHICH WE NEED TO REBUILD OUR SAVINGS,...
01:32:12 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION.
01:32:18 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS SAM BERELLI. MY QUESTION IS FOR EITHER PANELISTS. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND...
01:32:56 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE INTEREST RATE IS SET BY THE MARKET. THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAN ONLY SET SHORT-TERM INTEREST...
01:34:24 Unidentified Speaker I'M SYMPATHETIC WITH SOME OF YOUR -- SOME OF WHAT YOU IMPLY. I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS WHO ARE A SUPPORTER...
01:36:25 Unidentified Speaker ONE THING WHICH IS THE ONLY WINNER OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS I WOULD ARGUE IS THE BEHAVIORAL ECONOMISTS,...
01:37:29 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE ONLY HUEMENT. UNFORTUNATE, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE THE LAST QUESTION AND, SIR, HAVE YOU THAT HONOR....
01:37:35 Unidentified Speaker I'LL MAKE IT QUICK AND DIRTY. WHY OR WHAT IS THE RISK OF AMERICA IN THE TEENS BECOMING THE JAPAN OF...
01:37:45 Unidentified Speaker WHAT MIGHT HAVE TO OCCUR FOR US TO GO THERE OR WHAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM GOING THERE?
01:37:50 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IT'S A REAL RISK. FORTUNATELY WE HAVE LEARNED SOME FROM THAT EXPERIENCE. I THINK WE HAVE SOME...
01:39:35 Unidentified Speaker ONE SMALL THING TO ADD, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE JAPANESE MONETARY AUTHORITIES, ALTHOUGH INTEREST...
01:40:02 Unidentified Speaker AS WE ADJOURN THE PROGRAM I WANT TO THANK CHARLIE WHEELAN AND ADOLPHO FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INSIGHT...
01:40:53 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A CHALLENGE. WE SHOULD BE REALISTIC ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE FACE AND WE HAVE THE ABILITIES...
01:41:11 Unidentified Speaker HOW LONG?
01:41:14 Unidentified Speaker BUT WE CAN MAKE IT. I REMAIN RELATIVELY OPTIMISTIC EVEN WITH WHAT CHARLIE SAID. I THINK BY EARLY 2010...
01:41:22 Unidentified Speaker CHARLIE?
01:41:24 Unidentified Speaker I HOPE WE WALK OUT WISER. I THINK THE LESSON OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL, AND...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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