The Post-Guantanamo Era

Jan 28, 2009

University of Texas at Austin | Strauss (Robert S.) Center for International Security and Law

A panel discussion was held of the legal and policy issues raised by Guantanamo as the Obama administration begins to reform the government's approach to military detention in general and the Guantanamo detainees in particular. Visiting Professor Bobby Chesney moderated. The panelists responded to questions from members of the audience. John .. Read More
A panel discussion was held of the legal and policy issues raised by Guantanamo as the Obama administration begins to reform the government's approach to military detention in general and the Guantanamo detainees in particular. Visiting Professor Bobby Chesney moderated. The panelists responded to questions from members of the audience. John Bellinger served as legal adviser to the National Security Council and then to Secretary of State Rice during the Bush administration. Benjamin Wittes is the author of Law and the Long War: The Future of Justice in the Age of Terror (Penguin Press; June 19, 2008). Steven Vladeck is the co-author of a brief to the Supreme Court on behalf of Guantanamo detainee Salim Hamdan. "The Post-Guantanamo Era: A Dialogue on the Law and Policy of Detention and Counterterrorism" was held in the Eidman Courtroom of the Connally Center for Justice at the at the University of Texas School of Law. This is an hour-long portion of the event, shown in full in program ID 283701-2.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:36 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS C-SPAN'S "AMERICA AND THE COURTS." NEXT A DISCUSSION ON THE LEGAL AND POLICY ISSUES RAISED...
00:00:59 Unidentified Speaker OK. LET ME START WITH THE QUESTION DIRECTED TO THIS PERSON. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE OBSTACLES TO...
00:02:31 Unidentified Speaker BANKS, IT IS NICE TO BE HERE. THAT ME START WITH -- THANKS, IT IS NICE TO BE HERE. LET ME START WITH...
00:10:41 Unidentified Speaker I WILL ASK YOU TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THERE IS A MENTION TO PLACEMENT IN THIRD COUNTRIES. THERE COULD...
00:10:59 Unidentified Speaker YES. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME. THERE IS LITIGATION PENDING ON THIS QUESTION. JOHN MENTIONED...
00:13:09 Unidentified Speaker THAT ME JUMP IN. ONE MIGHT RESPOND TO THAT AND SAY THAT IS TRUE WHEN TALKING ABOUT ADMISSION OR SOMEONE...
00:13:29 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IT DOES. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME. BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAS CONCEDED -- THE...
00:14:12 Unidentified Speaker HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS GROUP THE CHINESE MUSLIMS? MOST PEOPLE. THIS IS THE MOST INTRACTABLE...
00:14:56 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS NOT TRAINING TO WAGE WAR AGAINST US.
00:14:59 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WHERE I AM HEADING. THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WAGE WAR AGAINST THE CHINESE. ...
00:16:18 Unidentified Speaker I LIKE TO ADD TO THIS. YOU CAN TALK YOURSELF INTO NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM. THEY ARE EMBLEMATIC OF ANYTHING...
00:18:36 Unidentified Speaker IT JOHN IS RIGHT ABOUT THE REPATRIATION OF DIFFICULTY IN -- ONE MUST CONCEDE THAT THEY ARE EIGHT ACTUALLY...
00:19:17 Unidentified Speaker I SUPPOSE THAT IS RIGHT. THAT COULD BE THE LEADING EDGE OF A TREND. MY GUESS IS THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION...
00:19:47 Unidentified Speaker I DO THINK THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE FOR US AS NEGOTIATORS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S,...
00:21:04 Unidentified Speaker TO TAKE THAT ONE STEP FORWARD, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR MANY INCENTIVES. IF YOU IMAGINE THE SITUATION...
00:21:38 Unidentified Speaker UNLESS YOU DO NOT LIKE CLEVELAND.
00:21:40 Unidentified Speaker PARTICULARLY. [LAUGHTER]
00:21:44 Unidentified Speaker I WILL ANSWER. I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES. I THINK BY -- GIVEN WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL HAS THE RIGHT TO...
00:22:12 Unidentified Speaker I WILL LEAD US OUT OF THIS REPATRIATION ISSUE, ONLY TO FIND THAT I HAVE LED US INTO ANOTHER ISSUE....
00:22:53 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THERE ARE FOUR DISTINCT REASONS WHY, FOR ANY GIVEN DETAINEE WHO MAY BE COMPLETELY TERRIFIED...
00:28:15 Unidentified Speaker THAT MAY ASK YOU. -- LET ME ASK YOU. THE MOST COMMONLY ASKED QUESTION THAT I GOT, AND NOW IT IS RECYCLING...
00:30:17 Unidentified Speaker WHO WAS IN SAUDIA ARABIA? WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON THAT SAYS THEY ARE BEING TORTURED BY THE SAUDIA ARABIAN...
00:30:32 Unidentified Speaker I THINK I WAS A QUESTION THAT OCCURRED AFTER THE CRIMINAL STATUTES WERE CHANGED. ONE OF THE THINGS...
00:31:25 Unidentified Speaker IN SOME CASES THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES ARE OVERSTATED. THE TRIAL JUDGE SAID IT IS A COMPLICATED...
00:31:46 Unidentified Speaker WITNESSES WERE HERE. EVIDENCE WAS HERE.
00:31:51 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO DISTINGUISH AMONG THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING...
00:33:00 Unidentified Speaker I WAS SPEAKING IN THE CONTEXT OF CLOSING GUANTANAMO. IF YOU TAKE THE UNIVERSE -- SEAS. THAT THE UNIVERSE...
00:34:18 Unidentified Speaker ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE ESTABLISHED HERE, IF ANYTHING, IS THAT THERE ARE COMPLICATIONS FOR REPATRIATION...
00:35:34 Unidentified Speaker AND I AM VERY ANTI-NATIONAL SECURITY COURT. I AM VERY -- LET ME EXPLAIN THOSE POINTS. NATIONAL SECURITY...
00:36:50 Unidentified Speaker THAT ME JUMP IN ON THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THAT. A LOT OF THESE DEBATES ABOUT WHO CAN BE DETAINED,...
00:37:30 Unidentified Speaker AND THEY JUMP OVER THAT QUESTION. THEY JUMP OVER BOTH QUESTIONS. THEY SAY WHATEVER THE ANSWER IS, ...
00:38:16 Unidentified Speaker AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT CALL IT A NATIONAL SECURITY COURT.
00:38:19 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT THINK YOU NEED A NEW COURT. I DO NOT KNOW WHY WE CANNOT USE THE COURT WE HAVE. IT IS ONLY...
00:38:47 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. WHAT IS THE LEGAL...
00:43:47 Unidentified Speaker I FIND MYSELF IN AN AWKWARD POSITION HERE. STEVE STARTED AND WE HAVE DONE THESE PANELS BEFORE. WE...
00:44:31 Unidentified Speaker I BROUGHT IT FROM OUR LAST PANEL. [LAUGHTER]
00:44:36 Unidentified Speaker THE OTHER THING HE SAID IS THAT IT SUPPORTS A FRAMEWORK STATURE TO REGULATE THE TENSIONS. THE COMMON...
00:48:40 Unidentified Speaker ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ROD BLAGOJEVICH? [LAUGHTER]
00:48:47 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AS DANGEROUS AS THEY WERE BEFORE. WE DO NOT NEED TO CONTINUE TO DETAIN...
00:49:46 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT, SHOCKINGLY. THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT POINT THAT HE IS OMITING. HE IS NOT...
00:51:09 Unidentified Speaker BEFORE WE TURN TO QUESTIONS. THERE WILL BE MANY -- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC LAW TO HOLD PEOPLE....
00:55:21 Unidentified Speaker WHICH WILL SWITCH TO QUESTIONS ON THAT. FOLLOWING UP ON THE FOURTH GENEVA CONVENTION, I AM GLAD YOU...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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  • Bellinger, John B. III
  • Chesney, Robert M.
  • Vladeck, Stephen I.
  • Wittes, Benjamin