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NOW A DISCUSSION ON THE LOBBYING INDUSTRY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WE'LL HEAR FROM GREG SIMON, A HEALTH... |
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND ADVOCACY INSTITUTE AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY... |
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MY PLEASURE. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND. I'VE GIVEN THIS TALK BEFORE SO I LIKE TO... |
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IT'S NOT THE MOST POWERFUL. OKAY WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST. GRASSROOTS SUPPORT? PEOPLE THINK THAT'S... |
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ACCURATE INFORMATION. |
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ACCURATE INFORMATION. YOU'RE TRUSTWORTHY. WHAT ELSE? |
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SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH THE PERSON. |
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SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH THE PERSON, WHICH IS THE SAME AS GRASSROOTS SUPPORT. YOU SPEND ENOUGH... |
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RE-ELECTION. |
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WHERE IN THE ELECTION? |
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TELEVISION ADS. |
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TELEVISION ADS. IT GOES TO TELEVISION ADS. NOW, WHEN YOU'RE ON TELEVISION, AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING... |
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PROHIBITION IS. IS PROHIBITION OVER? CAN YOU SMOKE MARIJUANA? LEGALLY IN ANY COUNTRY IN ANY STATE... |
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IF HE BELIEVES IN IT. |
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I DON'T KNOW IF HE DOES OR NOT. LET'S JUST ASSUME HE DOES. I HAD NO IDEA. TELL THE TRUTH. WE NEED... |
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BUILT LIKE A GRASSROOTS COALITION LIKE GROUNDSWELL OF PEOPLE WILLING TO DO IT. |
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BUILD A GRASSROOTS COALITION I AM GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE SIDE BOARD HERE JUST A MINUTE BECAUSE THAT'S... |
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GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE SUPPLY NEEDS TO BE SO IT'S UP TO $4 A GALLON. |
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NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SUPPLY NEEDS TO BE TO BE AT $4 A GALLON. |
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OKAY I AM PUTTING THAT ON THE SIDEBOARD TOO. |
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FIND THE EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL -- YOU CAN WIN PEOPLE'S HEARTS. |
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FIND THE EMOTIONAL ARGUMENT. AND ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING THAT IS WHAT ARE YOUR PRINCIPLES? RIGHT? ... |
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I WOULD SAY PLAYING UP CONSERVATION TO LIBERALS AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND ALSO NATIONAL SECURITY... |
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OKAY. GREAT ON THE LIBERAL SIDE, CONSERVATION. ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE. NATIONAL SECURITY. LET'S... |
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NO THAT'S WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT IN TERMS OF CONSERVATION BUT WHAT DO THAT WORRY ABOUT $4 -- WHEN YAO... |
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THEIR POCKETBOOK. |
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THE POCKETBOOK OF THE POOR. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO DRIVE. RIGHT? SAYING OKAY YOU HAVE AN IMPACT... |
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[INAUDIBLE] |
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INDUSTRY WHY ARE YOU GOING TO ART FILTHSY RAISE THE PRICE OF GASOLINE WHEN IT'S $1.65 AND YOUR ANSWER... |
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CHILDREN. |
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CHILDREN. WHAT ABOUT CHILDREN? |
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THAT YOUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR -- [INAUDIBLE] |
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RIGHT. |
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THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE A WORSE LIFE, THEY WILL BE POOR. |
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SO OVERCONSUMPTION OF GASOLINE AND OIL IS GOING TO HARM YOUR CHILDREN'S ABILITY TO LIVE IN A WORLD... |
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HEALTH BENEFITS FOR PEOPLE WITH ASTHMA AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD WALK OR BIKE MORE? |
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OKAY, SOCIAL BENEFITS OF HEALTH. |
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CONSERVATIVE OR DEMOCRAT NOW? |
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EITHER WAY. |
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IT DOESN'T MATTER. |
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OTHER PRINCIPLES. PRINCIPLES YOU WANT TO ARGUE |
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GLOBAL WARMING. |
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OKAY IN ADDITION TO CONSERVATION, GLOBAL WARMING IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF IT. OTHER PRINTS PELS. |
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NEW ALTERNATIVE ENERGY INDUSTRY. |
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NEW ALTERNATIVE ENERGY INDUSTRY. IT'S THE END OF ONE KIND OF ECONOMY IT'S THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER... |
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U.S. DRILLING. |
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U.S. DRILL. |
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CONSERVATISM WOULD ADVOCATE MORE DRILLING TO KEEP COSTS LOWER THAN $4 A GALLON. |
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THEY WOULD SAY WHY ARE WE DOING THIS WHEN WE HAVEN'T EXPLOITED OUR OWN SUPPLY. |
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-- WHEN YOU SAY THE ARGUMENTS THEY WILL SAY -- THESE INDUSTRIES MAYBE THEY LOBBY OR SOMETHING -- |
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SO -- |
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I MEAN YOU SHOULD BE KIND |
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BUT THESE ARE THE ARGUMENTS YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR, RIGHT? AND OUR CHALLENGE IS HOW DO WE BRING --... |
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I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE PRICE OF GAS IF THE TAX INCREASE OR SOMETHING THEN... |
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SO THAT'S A WAY TO BRIDGE THE GAP, RIGHT? |
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ALSO THINK GLOBAL LEADERSHIP IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IS APPEALING, HAVING AMERICA LEAD THE WAY.... |
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ALTERNATIVE. |
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ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES. |
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OKAY. YOU HAD A HAND UP. |
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BUILDING ON THE ARTIFICIALLY RAISING THE PRICE YOU COULD USE IT TO MAKE BETTER PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION... |
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USE THAT MONEY FOR BERT PUBLIC TRANSAND THE ROAD ALTERNATIVES. RIGHT. |
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GOING ALONG WITH THE ARTIFICIAL SETTING THE PRICE YOU COULD HAVE A VARIANCE LEVEL SO THE MARKET COULD... |
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OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE. NOW, YOU COULD TAKE ALL OF THESE POSITIONS FOR AND AGAINST THE $4 GALLON AND... |
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PROFITS FOR OIL COMPANIES. |
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OR TO THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE SELLING US THE OIL. BOTH. RIGHT? SO THE OIL COMPANIES MAKE A LOT OF... |
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-- AIMED TOWARD DECREASING POVERTY. |
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OKAY, LIKE WHAT? ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAMS LIKE WHAT? |
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EITC. |
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EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, HEATING, WHENEVER THEY CALL IT. HEALTHCARE. |
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YOU COULD ALSO TRACK MILEAGE FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES ALREADY FOR YOUR VEHICLE AND DETERMINE WHAT A... |
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DO YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNTING FIRM? YOU SHOULD. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S COMPLICATED. IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE... |
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IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE MONEY THAT HE'S ALREADY EARNED WHEN THE GAS WAS LUBBER... |
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SO YOU USE IT AS A BUFFER? |
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YOU SAVE THE MONEY AND WAIT |
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OKAY. DID WE DO THAT ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY TODAY? DO WE HAVE A BUFFER THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE FROM... |
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HOME HEATING OIL. |
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HOME HEATING OIL. WE HAVE PROGRAMS CAN GET A GUARANTEED PRICE. I CAN GET A GUARANTEED PRICE ON MY... |
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YOU HAVE TO I GUESS ALSO INCREASE PUBLIC TRANSIT BUT ALSO SUBSIDIZE ITEMS. SUBSIDIZE PUBLIC TRANSIT.... |
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SAID THAT IT'S EASY PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP, IT'S JUST SOR OF THERE, YOU KNOW. |
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SO FOR INSTANCE IF THE PRICE OF THE METRO IN WASHINGTON THIS YEAR AND THE PRICE OF DRIVING AND PARKING... |
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THE ARGUMENT YOU COULD TAKE THE LEAD, IT IS MORE COMPLICATED BUT THE PRICE WILL GO UP ABOVE $4 AT... |
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EXACTLY. PLANNING AHEAD, MY GOODNESS, WHAT A CONCEPT. WE TEND TO PLAN AHEAD OF LAW IN THE MIDDLE... |
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SOME TO SUBSIDIZE THE 50 CENTS ON METRO COULDN'T YOU CHARGE EXCESS PARKING FEES OF THAT WHITE PEOPLE... |
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EXACTLY. THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED IN DIFFERENT LOCALITIES, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN SOFT EVERYWHERE.... |
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PEOPLE LIKE HAVING THEIR OWN PERSONALIZED TRANSPORTATION. THEY LIKE BEING ABOUT TO GO WHERE THEY WANT... |
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OKAY THAT SECONDARY. |
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[INAUDIBLE] |
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PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TAXES GETTING RAISED ESPECIALLY ON SOMETHING THEY THINK IS PART OF A LIFESTYLE.... |
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IT WOULD COST THEM MORE MONEY. |
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IT WOULD COST THEM MORE MONEY. |
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GAS PRICE IS GOOD. |
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IT IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ADDICTED TO FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS GOTTEN... |
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HOWEVER THEY WANT TO SPEND |
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IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY? THEY WILL JUST SPEND IT ON THE GAS. |
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SUBSIDIZE THE PURCHASE OF HYBRID VEHICLES LIKE THEY'VE DONE WITH PEOPLE WHO GET DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS... |
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GET PEOPLE TO CONSERVE, RIGHT? CHARGE THEM TO WASTE, PAY THEM TO CONSERVE. OKAY. NOT ACCEPT THE A... |
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EITHER GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY INVEST IN CAR SHARING PROGRAMS ARGUES CARS SHARING PROGRAMS... |
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SUPPLIES TRANSPARENCY IN 20 DIFFERENT WAYS. JUST GIVE AWAY THE SMART SHIP CARDS. $50 FREE TRANSIT... |
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GIVE PEOPLE A DISCOUNT ON BICYCLE AND BICYCLE SAFETY BECAUSE THAT'S A PROBLEM TOO. BUT REALLY ANYTHING... |
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ACCEPT SEVEN FIFTIES, WE ARE NOT FOR THAT. |
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IS ON OUR PANEL OF A RIFT. |
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PEOPLE TO WHETHER OR IS THEIR HOMES. WE'VE GOT MUCH BETTER TECHNOLOGY. DID YOU KNOW REAGAN TOOK THE... |
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PAY THEM TO SWITCH UTILITIES TO RENEWABLE ENERGY BY REEF TV COVERAGE IS AND WHAT HAVE TO PAY OR SUBSIDIZING... |
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SUBSIDIZE EFFORTS TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVE ENERGIES. |
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SUPPLIES PEOPLE COMING UP TO ALTERNATIVE. CARS, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY PRODUCERS, GEOTHERMAL WIND, ALL... |
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YOU COULD SUFFICE TO PUT MONEY ON PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR MASS-TRANSIT SO THEY HAVE A STATE... |
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GOOD. WE HAVE GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIPS THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY. THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT WAS... |
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HOW DO YOU GO BOUCHER ON THE CORRELATION? YOU CAN SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AND ACTUALLY DO IT BUT... |
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BETWEEN THE BENEFITS AND THE BURDEN? |
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AND GIVING $4 HERE AND PAY AND $4 YEAR BUT THERE FOR I'M GETTING THIS BIG OF A TAX REDUCTION. IT'S... |
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RIGHT. OKAY, GOOD QUESTION. THANK GOODNESS I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT, WHO WANTS TO ANSWER? |
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TELL THE TRUTH FROM THE BEGINNING. |
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BUT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE BEHAVIOR. |
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DEFINITELY. |
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SO YOU'RE SAYING CHARISMATIC LEADERSHIP WILL CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR IF YOU TELL THEM WE ARE SACRIFICING... |
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EVEN PRIMARY INTENTION -- |
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PRIMARY INTENTION TO STRENGTHEN THE COUNTRY. |
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AT TIME TO SECURE -- THEY MIGHT CHANGE THEIR MIND. |
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OKAY. WHAT ELSE? HOW ELSE TO USE OF THE PROBLEM? HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO REALLY GET IT THAT THE... |
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PUBLIC CAMPAIGN COMMERCIALS AND THINGS OTHERWISE PEOPLE HAVE SHORT TIME SPAN MIKE SHORT MEMORIES BECAUSE... |
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PROBABLY FUNDED BY THE INCREASE. |
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SECURE GRANTED TAKE THE PEOPLE'S MONEY THAT LOBBY ABOUT GETTING THEIR MONEY? |
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COS. BECAUSE THEY GET MONEY. |
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WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THEM TO PAY FOR IT? YOU HAVE TO CREATE AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING... |
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THAT THE INCREASE IN GAS PRICES COULD ACTUALLY HURT JOBS AND TO COULD LOSE A LOT OF JOBS IN THE AUTO... |
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IT WOULD HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE EMPLOYMENT. SO DOES THAT SUGGEST SOMETHING TO YOU? WHAT IS THE... |
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INCREASE -- INCREASE JOBS AND LIKE INCREASE GREEN JOBS AND OTHER THINGS. LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO LOSE... |
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ANYBODY WHO USES . |
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PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSKILLED AND OTHER AREAS. |
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SO ONCE AGAIN IF MONEY IS THE PROBLEM IS THE ANSWER? MONEY. SO HOW DO YOU READ DIRECT MONEY JOB THE... |
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IT SEEMS THE ARGUMENT COMING FROM THE RIGHT ESPECIALLY THE FREE MARKETERS IS GOING TO BE THE YOU KNOW... |
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OPPOSITION WILL SAY WISDOM OF THE CROWDS, THE NEW PHRASE IS BETTER THAN THE WISDOM OF A CENTRAL PLANNER... |
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AS A CONSUMER I CAN'T BUILD A NEW BOSS LINE. |
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EXACTLY. YOU AS A CONSUMER CANNOT WILL IN NEW BUS LINE OR HIGHWAY OR CAR. NOT MANY OF THEM. YOU COULD... |
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I JUST A QUESTION. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THIS COUNTRY HAS CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY'S WE BUY... |
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THEY COULD ACCEPT THERE IS ENOUGH FUNDS ABILITY IN THE OIL MARKET THAT THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT... |
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IF OIL COMPANIES ARE NOT MAKING THEIR PROFITS THEY COULD JUST GET OUT OF THE OIL BUSINESS. |
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GET OUT OF THE OIL BUSINESS OR CUT WAY BACK ON EXPLORATION. OKAY. |
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THROOP PRICES COULD GO UP. |
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FOOD PRICES COULD GO UP. A GREAT POINT. |
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THEIR PLAN TO STOP BUYING |
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PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP BUYING THE CARS WILL MAKE NOW, THAT'S FOR SURE. |
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OF THE OIL PRICES WOULD GO UP BECAUSE SUMMIT COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY LIKE INDONESIA AND CHINA SUBSIDIZE... |
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COUNTRIES THAT SUBSIDIZE IF PRICES GO UP AND YOU TO SUBSIDIZE OR EIGHT FLOORS THEIR MANUFACTURING... |
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OKAY, SO WE ARE READY TO SUBSIDIZE FARMERS AND A LOT SO IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE SUBSIDIZING THEM MORE... |
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INCENTIVIZE REAL TRANSPORTATION WHICH IS THE CHEAPEST, RIGHT? SO ALTERNATIVE MODES OF DELIVERY OF... |
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BUILD MORE MARKET-- HARKEN BRIDES. |
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MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE METRO. THERE PLENTY OF METRO STATIONS IN WASHINGTON BUT YOU... |
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YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT SO EXPENSIVE TO TRANSPORT FOOD THAT THERE IS AN INCENTIVE TO BILL BLUNDER... |
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WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY. WE JUST DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT IS ARTIFICIALLY LOW. [INAUDIBLE] |
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SUBSIDIZING THE DISTRIBUTIVE IS BECAUSE THE FARMERS OF GETTING PLENTY OF SUBSIDIES. THERE IS ANOTHER... |
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I WANT TO GET BACK TO YOUR ANALOGY. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE IDEA OF IS NOT PREFERABLE? DO WHEN YOU... |
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EXACTLY BECAUSE WHAT COURTNER'S POLICY LED TO US THE FACT THAT THE CIVIL WAR SOCIALLY LIVED ON FOR... |
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DOESN'T TAKE THEIR MONEY BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE A TOOL OF THE MILITARY. THEY ARE A TOOL OF... |
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WHAT DO YOU DO WITHIN THE BATTLES THAT ACTUALLY DO SEEM TO HAVE THE FLAVOR OF RIGHT AND WRONG TO THEM... |
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WELL, THE HISTORY OF ALL SUCH CAMPAIGNS IS THAT THERE IS APPEARANCES AND THERE IS REALITY. YOU CAN... |
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WHEN DOES THE WAR FINNISH? |
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THE WAR DOES NOT FINISH. [INAUDIBLE] |
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WHICH WHERE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE IRAQ WAR OR WAR IN GENERAL? |
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IN GENERAL. |
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LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. I WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR FOUR YEARS AGO IT EVERYTHING I WORKED DONE WITH... |
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EVERYTHING WORKS FINE FOR EXAMPLE IF PEOPLE HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS AND ANY LOG FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THE... |
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SO GOOD INTENTIONS. AND ALL RELATIONSHIPS, ESPECIALLY MARRIAGE, 50% OF MARRIAGES ENDED THE BOURSE... |
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COULD I ASK THE LAST QUESTION THAT APPLIES TO THIS CLASS. YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND... |
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GOOD QUESTION. HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ANSWER OR MORE THAN... |
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