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THE NEXT DAY YOU ARE DODGING SHOES FROM FOREIGN JOURNALISTS. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH PRESIDENT BUSH'S... |
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YOU HAVE ALL HAD THE SAME JOBS, THE SAME TITLE, EVEN THE SAME WONDERFUL OFFICE IN THE WEST WING, 25... |
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IN SOME WAYS I THINK MY LIFE WAS THE AREA -- EASIER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO 24-HOUR A DAY TELEVISION,... |
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LET'S MOVE ONTO MIKE'S THE DAY. BY NOW, CNN HAD BECOME BIG TIME. |
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JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE HOW RAPIDLY THE INTERNET HAS COME TO DOMINATE SO MUCH. WHEN I LEFT IN 1998,... |
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THAT BERGEN -- THAT LEADS US TO DANA, DO YOU EVER GET HOME? |
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LUCKILY WITH THIS NEW CYCLE, TECHNOLOGY CAME ALONG WITH IT. I CAN TAKE OFFICE ANYWHERE. WE DON'T REALLY... |
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WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ADAPTATION WILL BE ON GENERAL 20 IF WHEN THE FIRST INTERNET CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT... |
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IN MY OPINION IT DOES NOT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WANT IT TO. THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO... |
| 00:08:48 |
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ANYBODY WANT TO SPECULATE ABOUT THE WORLD OF PRESS CORPS WHEN OBAMA BECOMES PRESIDENT? |
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THERE HAS BEEN AN EVOLUTION AS THE TECHNOLOGIES OF THE WEB HAVE COME TO CHANGE BOTH THE MEDIA AND... |
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WE ARE ON DIFFERENT WAVE LENGTHS. BARACK OBAMA BECOMES PERHAPS THE MOST INTERESTING PRESIDENT OF OUR... |
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IT IS HARD TO BOIL IT DOWN TO ONE THING. I HAD A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW ROBERT A LITTLE BIT. WE HAD... |
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ONE OF THE THINGS IS TO KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE. I TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT I READ EVERYTHING THAT THE REPORTERS... |
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DO THEY STILL HAVE A GAGGLE? |
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THE GAGGLE WAS STARTED BY LARRY SPEAKES IN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. IT WAS AN ON THE RECORD, MORE... |
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PROFESSOR MCCURRY, CRISIS MANAGEMENT 101. |
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I HAVE TO " DANA IN TALKING ABOUT BRIEFING SKILLS 101 IN A FORTHCOMING ARTICLE THAT IS IN THE "NEW... |
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AND YOU NEVER GET IN TROUBLE FOR THINGS YOU SAY. |
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THIS IS A CONSTANT IRRITANT TO ME BUT WE ARE HELD TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ACCURACY. WE HAVE TO BE... |
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RON, YOU HAD A CRISIS TO MANAGE CALLED THE VIETNAM WAR. |
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IT WAS A MIXED BLESSING FOR ME TO HAVE BEEN A REPORTER AND TO ACTUALLY HAVE COVERED THE WHITE HOUSE... |
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LET'S SAY THE RULES AT THE END. BECAUSE MIKE MCCURRY HAS SEEMED TO SLIP OFF AS CRISIS. HE DID NOT... |
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THE THREE OF YOU ARE SOUNDING AWFULLY APPEAR TO ME. CERTAINLY THERE ARE TECHNIQUES TO GET AROUND WHEN... |
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YOU CAN NEVER LIED TO REPORTERS. -- LIKE TO REPORTERS. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WILL BE CERTAIN THINGS... |
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THAT IS AN INTERESTING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT. AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT,... |
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THEY JUST PEEL THE ONION AWAY UNTIL THERE IS NOTHING LEFT AND YOU ARE THE ONES CRYING. AT THE WHITE... |
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I GOT THAT ONCE FROM SOMEONE IF THEY'RE POOR AS YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU -- ABOUT A STORY YOU DON'T... |
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WHEN YOU MOVE ON TO PRESIDENTIAL PRESS CONFERENCES. THERE ARE ELEMENTS THERE THAT YOU CAN PASS ON... |
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WE DID UNTIL THE CAMPAIGN GOT UNDER WAY. THEN HE WITHDREW FROM THAT. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY WE... |
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DO YOU HAVE TO ADD DAYS? |
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I ALWAYS LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AND WATCH AND READ EVERYTHING THAT THE REPORTERS IN THE BRIEFING ROOM... |
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I HAVE NOTICED IN PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA'S PRESS CONFERENCES, HE HAS A CARD AND HE CALLS ON A PARTICULAR... |
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THE ACTIVE PREPARING FOR PRESS CONFERENCE, WE WORK THROUGH THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON WE HAD THE BULLY... |
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HOW COME YOU'RE PRESIDENTS HAD SO FEW PRESS CONFERENCES? |
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THEY CAN ALSO DIVERT TO THE WILDERNESS THE THINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT. |
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I THINK WE ANSWERS A LOT -- ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS. I THINK ONLY ONE TIME HAVE... |
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THEY ALWAYS START WITH A MESSAGE, DON'T THEY? |
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NOT NECESSARILY. |
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I THINK EVERY PRESIDENT PREPARES A FAMILY. I KNOW IT HAD BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO DO MAKE BELIEVE PRESS... |
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WE ALL REPORT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF. ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT WORKING FOR PRESIDENT BUSH IS THAT... |
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HOW DO YOU RELATE TO SOMEONE WHO IS CALLED THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS? |
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ED GILLESPIE AND I WORK WELL TOGETHER. HE HAS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES. COMMUNICATIONS PART OF IT... |
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I AM MAKING THIS SOUND AS THOUGH -- THOUGH THIS IS A STATEMENT. THE SENIOR STAFF MEET WITH RONALD... |
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WE DO THAT. THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT. I WILL NEVER FORGET A MONTH AND A HALF AGO... |
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THAT STRUCTURE, WHICH IS LARGELY WHAT EXISTED IN THE CLINTON WHITE HOUSE AS WELL AS OTHERS IS LARGELY... |
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WRONG, WE TALKED ABOUT PART OF THIS BEFORE, THE QUESTION OF GETTING INFORMATION AND ACCESS NOT FROM... |
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THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT. EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT OF THE... |
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WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT. SOMETIMES THEY THINK THEY ARE PROTECTING YOU IF THE DATE... |
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IT IS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW THAT GIVES YOU IN TROUBLE, IT IS WHAT SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL YOU. IT ALSO... |
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WHAT ARE THE GRAY -- ONE OF THE GREAT LESSONS I LEARNED, WHEN I FIRST CAME IN, AL HAIG WAS HIS CHIEF... |
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MARLIN FITZWATER HAD A GREAT LINE. MARLON TOLD HIM ONE TIME, YOU ONLY KNOW 50% OF WHAT IS GOING ON... |
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NOW THE MOST DIFFICULT QUESTION SO FAR, THE ONE MOST LIKELY TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE. HOW DO ASSESS THE... |
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DO I GET TO EXPLAIN MY ANSWER? YOU CAN DO THAT LATER. |
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50. |
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MIKE? BILL CLINTON? |
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7.5. |
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I HAVE TO WORK HERE FOR 32 MORE DAYS. WE WILL GIVE YOU -- THE ONES WHO SIT IN THE ROOM? I WOULD SAY... |
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IT IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE RON, YOU GIVE THEM A LOWER MARK. |
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YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS. IT WAS RIGHT AFTER ZIEGLER AND WATERGATE. MY IMMEDIATE PREDECESSOR... |
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FAIR ENOUGH. I AM A LITTLE SURPRISE, MIKE IN YOUR 7.5. |
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I AGREE WITH DANA THAT THE REPORTERS WHO SHOW UP WHO ARE REGULARLY ASSIGNED TO THAT BEAT ARE AMONG... |
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YOU HAVE A LAST CRACK AT THAT QUESTION. |
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NEWSPAPERS INCREASINGLY HAVE NEWS ANALYSIS PIECES. FOR A PRESS SECRETARY, IN MANY CASES, OFTENTIMES... |
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NOW THE QUESTION OF PROPOSALS OR SUGGESTIONS HOW DID YOU SUGGESTED, FOR THE NEW PRESS SECRETARY? |
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NEVER LIE AND NEVER COVER UP. NEVER GIVE A REPORTER INFORMATION OFF THE RECORD UNLESS YOU WANT TO... |
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MIKE, YOUR TURN? |
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THAT IS A GREAT LIST. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO IT WOULD BE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO UNDO SOMETHING... |
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WHEN THE MANAGER IS TRANSPARENT WITH A NEW PRESIDENT COMING IN, IT COULD SERIOUSLY GO BACK AND CLOSE... |
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YES. WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BRIEFING IS TO ELIMINATE AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MATERIAL AND INFORMATION... |
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THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING. A TRANSCRIPT GETS MADE. PEOPLE DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE MATERIAL. THEY... |
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I THINK THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN. IT IS INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT. I DO THINK PEOPLE PLAY WITH... |
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WHAT YOU READ ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES TODAY AND THE SHRINKING WASHINGTON BUREAU, YOU... |
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TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BOOK AND YOU CAN SEE IT HAPPENING. NO. 30 IS CLOSED DOWN SAN DIEGO TRIBUNE. CROSS... |
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ROBERT GIBBS IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF EMPTY CHAIRS. |
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I DON'T THINK SO. IT WILL BE STANDING ROOM ONLY FOR ABOUT 10 MONTHS, AND THEN IT WILL DROP OFF AFTER... |
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THERE WILL BE MORE NEW MEDIA. BUT THE OBAMA ORGANIZATION HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT IT IS VERY MUCH OF... |
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WE SAY SOMETHING NOW AND IN TAX SOMEBODY INSTANTLY. I REMEMBER HAVING SOME FROM LEBANON TELL ME THAT... |
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LET'S OPEN IT UP TO SOME QUESTIONS. |
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CAN WE GET A MICROPHONE BACK THERE. TELL US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. |
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I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUTURE, LIKE THE OBAMA PRESS OFFICE. OVER THE SUMMER, WE SAW... |
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I DO THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. WE DO SOMETHING NOW CALLED "ASK THE WHITE HOUSE" THAT IS LIKE A BLOCK... |
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WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS THE DREAM OF EVERY PRESIDENT AND EVERY PRESS SECRETARY, WHICH IS TO BE ABLE TO... |
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I AGREE THAT HAVING A MORE INTERACTIVE DIALOGUE WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THE... |
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BACK THERE. |
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THANK YOU. I'M FROM AMERICAN UNIVERSITY. WHO ACTUALLY HAS FOLLOWED THE PRESIDENT INTO RETIREMENT?... |
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HOW HAS PRESIDENT CLINTON INTERACT WITH THE PRESS IN RETIREMENT? HE HAS A PRESS OFFICE AT THE WILLIAM... |
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HE WILL GET THE FIRST GENTLEMAN'S PRESS SECRETARY. |
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I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME VERY ELABORATE RULES ABOUT HOW AVAILABLE HE IS GOING TO BE TO THE... |
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WITH THEIR SECOND PART TO THAT? |
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-- WAS THERE A SECOND PART TO THAT QUESTION? |
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HE WILL HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE FREEDOM INSTITUTE ON THE SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY CAMPUS WHICH... |
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I AM WITH THE CENTER HERE A BROOKINGS. EARLIER, HE SAID PRESS SECRETARIES HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE... |
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I HAVE ALWAYS SAID I THINK YOU CAN BE IN OUR ADMINISTRATION AS AN ACT OF THE PRESS SECRETARY AS YOU... |
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I THINK YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO DISCERN WHICH MEETINGS YOU NEED TO BE AT. DOOR AND LESS SCHEDULING MEETINGS... |
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DANA PERINO, DOES THE VICE PRESIDENT HAVE A PRESS SECRETARY AND HOW THEY RELATE? |
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YES, HE DOES. I SAW ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID IN THE "WASHINGTON TIMES" THIS MORNING AND HE SAID HE... |
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DO YOU TALK BACK AND FORTH ABOUT HOW HE WILL ANSWER OR HANDLE CERTAIN STORIES? |
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SOMETIMES, BUT WE ARE USUALLY ON THE SAME PAGE SO THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS. |
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TALKING ABOUT PREPARING FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE -- PRESS CONFERENCES, VICE-PRESIDENT GORE USED TO PREPARE... |
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SOMETIMES THE VICE PRESIDENT JOINS US FOR THOSE BUT NOT ALL THE TIME. |
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NELSON ROCKEFELLER WAS THE PRESS -- THE VICE PRESIDENT UNDER FORD. THE GREAT THING HE BROUGHT TO THE... |
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I WORK FOR AN INDIAN MULTINATIONAL GROUP THAT USED TO BE IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT DOING SOME WORK THERE.... |
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THERE ARE NOT AS MANY AS THERE MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY QUITE OPEN TO IT,... |
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WAS NOT SOME SORT OF DISPUTE OR HISTORY ABOUT BLOGGERS HAVING CREDENTIALS AT THE WHITE HOUSE? |
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IT IS VERY HARD SOMETIMES -- HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHO IS A JOURNALIST AND WAS NOT? A BLOTTER CAN BE A... |
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I ALWAYS FELT THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS YOU SENT BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS ASSOCIATION... |
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I DID NOT, BUT ARI DID. HE IS BRAVER THAN I AM. |
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I WOULD INVARIABLY BE ASKED BY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE UP AND RISING, SOME OF THE NEWER CREATIONS,... |
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I AM FROM THE MITCHELL REPORT. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION THAT COMES TO THE POINT ABOUT ONE NEVER LIES... |
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YOU MIGHT AS WELL, EVERYONE ELSE DOES. [LAUGHTER] |
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FOR THOSE TOO YOUNG TO NOT KNOW -- |
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I BELIEVE A LARGE CHUNK OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNEW THAT WAS THE CASE. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IS... |
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I HAVE AN EASIER TIME OF THAT, SO I WILL GO FIRST. WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW YOU DO THAT JOB... |
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I COULD NOT DISAGREE WITH YOU MORE. I THINK THE RECORD ON THIS WILL SHOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SOUGHT... |
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WE HAVE A HAND UP BACK THERE. |
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MY QUESTION RELATES TO SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP REPEATEDLY ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE DECLINE... |
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I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON A NUMBER OF CONFLICTING TRENDS IN SOCIETY. THE OLD, TRADITIONAL NEWSPAPER IS... |
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I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING ABOUT MORE INFORMATION BEING MADE AVAILABLE THAT IS BAD. SO IF MORE... |
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I WOULD SAY THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF PRESS OFFICERS. THE AGENCIES THAT TRY TO GET ATTENTION AND MAINSTREAM... |
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BUT TO THE POINT OF WHETHER THERE WILL BE A DIMINUTION OF THE PRESIDENT'S VOICE -- HE STILL HAS THE... |
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I WILL CLOSE THE PROGRAM IN THIS WAY. WHEN OUR GUESTS FOR HERE, AND OUR EQUIVALENT OF THE GREEN ROOM,... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.