Global Economic Crisis and U.S.-Israel Relations

Dec 6, 2008

Brookings Institution | Saban Center for Middle East Policy

Panelists spoke about the global economic crisis and possible implications for U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Among the topics they addressed were the growing impact of a global economic recession, the need for investment in programs to create sustainable economic growth, the security threats posed by a poor economy, and the potential .. Read More
Panelists spoke about the global economic crisis and possible implications for U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Among the topics they addressed were the growing impact of a global economic recession, the need for investment in programs to create sustainable economic growth, the security threats posed by a poor economy, and the potential impact on global political alliances. PAnelists also responded to questions from the audience. This was a dinner program of the 2008 Saban Forum titled, "Strategic Choices: Challenges for the Next U.S. and Israeli Governments."

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:05 Unidentified Speaker A LOOK NOW AT THE FUTURE OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. A PANEL DISCUSSES WHAT THEY PERCEIVE FOR THE FINANCIAL...
00:00:38 Unidentified Speaker THINK TODAY'S DISCUSSION WAS DEPRESSING, NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY. [INAUDIBLE] ONE...
00:02:44 Unidentified Speaker 68.
00:02:45 Unidentified Speaker $68 A SHARE. SO ONE THING THAT WE CAN SAY FOR SURE IS THAT THESE TWO VERY SMART INVESTORS, WHATEVER...
00:03:18 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THEY MISSED WHAT MOST PEOPLE MISSED, WHICH WAS THAT IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, EVERYONE WAS CONCERNED...
00:04:33 Unidentified Speaker HOW DO YOU SEE IT FROM THE ISRAELI PERSPECTIVE?
00:04:42 Unidentified Speaker WELL, IT'S MORE ECONOMY WORK. 200 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS, SMALL BAILOUT FOR AMERICAN ECONOMY. WE ARE...
00:05:27 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, WOULD YOU GIVE THE SAME ANSWER AS JIM? I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP TO THAT QUESTION BUT...
00:05:37 Unidentified Speaker I DID KNOW THE DRESS CODE WAS NOT TO WEAR FOX, BUT I HAVE ANOTHER DINNER AFTERWARDS, NOT AS A SPEAKER...
00:07:58 Unidentified Speaker FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE --
00:08:03 Unidentified Speaker OBVIOUSLY, SILICON VALLEY HOMEOWNERS CAN BE SMARTER THAN WAITERS IN D.C. THE ONE THING THAT BUFFET...
00:08:48 Unidentified Speaker LET'S START WITH YOU, AS WE WORK BACK THE OTHER WAY THEN. IS SPEAKER PELOSI STILL HERE?
00:08:56 Unidentified Speaker SHE IS GETTING INTO HER EVENT OR HER CLOTHES FOR THE SAME THING.
00:08:59 Unidentified Speaker NONE OF US GOT THE DRESS CODE AT ALL TONIGHT. SHAI, WE'RE ABOUT TO BAIL OUT G.M. CLEARLY, THE --...
00:09:43 Unidentified Speaker I'D ACTUALLY SEPARATE IT INTO TWO DISCUSSIONS. I'D ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT THEY CAME IN, THEY CAME IN...
00:11:36 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU FEEL, JUST TO FINISH THIS POINT, WE'LL PURSUE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT DO YOU FEEL WE'RE ON...
00:11:45 Unidentified Speaker IT'S ALREADY A TRAIN WRECK. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT A MOON SHOT. THIS IS NOT APOLLO 1. THIS IS APOLLO...
00:12:24 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE -- LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BAILOUTS PEOPLE ARE TALKING...
00:12:46 Unidentified Speaker WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD A REAL STIMULUS, BECAUSE THE TARP PROGRAM REALLY HASN'T REALLY DONE VERY MUCH....
00:14:47 Unidentified Speaker THAT SIX OR NINE MONTHS BEFORE THE ECONOMY OR BEFORE LENDING STARTS?
00:14:51 Unidentified Speaker SIX OR NINE MONTHS BEFORE YOU'LL SEE IMPACT OF THE STIMULUS PROGRAM. FORMALLY OUR RECESSIONS LAST...
00:15:34 Unidentified Speaker TWO-THIRDS TO GO. WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR ISRAEL?
00:15:44 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD NEWS FOR ISRAEL, BUT WE HAVE HAD OUR RECESSION IN 2002, LIKE 7% UNEMPLOYMENT...
00:16:27 Unidentified Speaker THE IRONY IS WE OFTEN TELL ISRAEL OR SORT OF I AM PLAY THAT MAYBE THEY COULD MANAGE THEIR ECONOMY...
00:16:35 Unidentified Speaker NO, PLEASE DON'T.
00:16:37 Unidentified Speaker DON'T HAVE THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN OWNING COMPANIES, DON'T HAVE DEFICIT SPENDING, AND THEY FOLLOWED...
00:16:51 Unidentified Speaker MUCH BETTER.
00:16:55 Unidentified Speaker DOES THE ECONOMIC CRISIS, BE WHAT IT MAY IN ISRAEL, FAVOR ONE PARTY OR ONE POLITICIAN GOING INTO THIS...
00:17:04 Unidentified Speaker YES, YOU KNOW IT.
00:17:07 Unidentified Speaker WHY?
00:17:10 Unidentified Speaker FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE BENJAMIN IS VERY RESPONSIBLE IN THE PUBLIC SENSE OF THE WORD, FOR A LOT OF THIS...
00:18:02 Unidentified Speaker INTERESTING. THERE REALLY ARE SECOND ACTS IF HISTORY. -- IN HISTORY. FROM THE WEST BANK TO THE CENTRAL...
00:18:17 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A VERY GOOD GOVERNMENT BANK.
00:18:21 Unidentified Speaker JIM, GIVE US YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE BAILOUT SO FAR, WHETHER YOU THINK IT'S WORKING, AND WOULD YOUR...
00:18:34 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE WITH DAVID'S POINT OF VIEW, THAT IT'S ABOUT A THIRD INTO IT, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BRING...
00:20:05 Unidentified Speaker LET ME START ANOTHER ROUND OF QUESTIONS WITH YOU, JIM, TO PICK UP THAT POINT. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL...
00:20:16 Unidentified Speaker GLOBALLY, I THINK YOU'LL SEE CERTAINLY OVER THE NEXT YEARS, A SWIFT -- A MOVE FROM THE UNITED STATES...
00:20:31 Unidentified Speaker A SHIFT OF POWER AND AUTHORITY?
00:20:33 Unidentified Speaker POWER AND AUTHORITY, BUT ALSO ECONOMIC STRENGTH. UNITED STATES HAS BEEN AROUND 25% OF GLOBAL GDP....
00:22:12 Unidentified Speaker THE PALESTINIAN ECONOMY, LET'S TALK WEST BANK GAZA FOR A SECOND, HOW HAS IT BEEN AFFECTED SO FAR,...
00:22:37 Unidentified Speaker 2007, 2008 AND THE LAST FEW MONTHS WERE A VERY GOOD PERIOD FOR THE PALESTINIAN ECONOMY AND THE WEST...
00:22:43 Unidentified Speaker WHY?
00:22:47 Unidentified Speaker BECAUSE OF -- I THINK MUCH SMARTER ECONOMY DECISIONS FROM THE WEST FIRST OF ALL, AND THEN PEOPLE IN...
00:24:12 Unidentified Speaker HOW DO YOU SEE THE GEOPOLITICS OF THIS PLAYING OUT?
00:24:15 Unidentified Speaker THERE WAS A CONCEPT THAT THE -- FOR A LONG TIME THAT IS TRUE U.S. ECONOMY AND ALL THE OTHER ECONOMIES...
00:26:13 Unidentified Speaker AND YET THERE'S BEEN A FLIGHT TO THE DOLLAR AT THIS CRISIS?
00:26:16 Unidentified Speaker YES. AS WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID, DEMOCRACY IS THE WORST FORM OF GOVERNMENT, EXCEPT EVERY OTHER...
00:27:26 Unidentified Speaker SHAI, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, AN I'M QUITE WORRIED ABOUT, WHEN YOU HAVE...
00:29:14 Unidentified Speaker ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, ISRAEL, AND I BEG TO DIFFER, I THINK IT TIES DIRECTLY TO WHAT...
00:29:45 Unidentified Speaker 2002.
00:29:47 Unidentified Speaker 2002, SO WE KNOW IT'S A ONE-YEAR DELAY. THERE'S A ONE YEAR PHASE DELAY BETWEEN HITTING IT IN THE U.S.,...
00:31:18 Unidentified Speaker THEY WEREN'T THE BIGGEST RISK --
00:31:20 Unidentified Speaker BUT IT PLAYS OUT THROUGH THE ECONOMY, THOUGH.
00:31:23 Unidentified Speaker THE BIGGEST -- WHEN HISTORY IS WRITTEN, THE BIGGEST SINGLE MISTAKE IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME BY THE GOVERNMENT...
00:33:24 Unidentified Speaker ARE THE CAR COMPANIES IN BANANA?
00:33:29 Unidentified Speaker 30 YEARS AGO I SPENT MY LIFE IN THE CHRYSLER REORGANIZATION WHICH WE HAD TO DO OUTSIDE OF BANKRUPTCY....
00:34:36 Unidentified Speaker IN THE CHRYSLER CASE, IT WAS ALL OF $1 BILLION SO HOW MUCH WE'VE COME. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS...
00:35:02 Unidentified Speaker SHAI?
00:35:04 Unidentified Speaker ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE MISSING IN THE DEALING WITH THE EUROPEAN CAR COMPANIES, FRIENDS TEXAS GASOLINE...
00:37:02 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THERE'S A REAL DANGER HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TELL THESE GUYS RESTRUCTURE, MAKE FUEL-EFFICIENT...
00:37:23 Unidentified Speaker WE ASKED PEOPLE IN A CANDY STORE AND ASKED THEM TO EAT BROCCOLI AND NOBODY WILL EAT BROCCOLI AND THEY...
00:37:34 Unidentified Speaker THE IDEA OF HAVING A 50 CENT PER GALLON TAX ON GASOLINE WAS SEEN AS A POLITICAL SUICIDE. THEN GASOLINE...
00:38:21 Unidentified Speaker SHAI, WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PRICE OF OIL? OIL HAS 4 IN FRONT OF IT, A BARREL OF...
00:38:31 Unidentified Speaker I THINK OIL -- IT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO GRAPHS. ONE IS A GRAPHIC WHICH IS A SUPPLY. WE DIDN'T GET...
00:40:43 Unidentified Speaker JUST TO PICK UP THAT POINT THEN, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BARACK OBAMA DO IN HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE...
00:41:02 Unidentified Speaker YOU CAN GO BIG, BOLD WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY NEEDED, WHICH IS THE CHINESE WAY. THE CHINESE WENT IN NO...
00:43:11 Unidentified Speaker JIM, LONG OR SHORT OIL?
00:43:14 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK I'M SHORT OIL BECAUSE I WANT TO BRING IN ONE OTHER SUBJECT WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENT....
00:44:27 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE WITH THAT. THE PRINCIPAL PROBLEM THAT WE HAD BEFORE WHEN WE WANTED TO GET INTO ALTERNATIVE...
00:45:42 Unidentified Speaker LET'S OPEN IT TO THE FLOOR AND WE'VE GOT -- I KNOW A LOT OF REALLY INFORMED PEOPLE. [INAUDIBLE]
00:45:52 Unidentified Speaker THERE WILL BE A MIC.
00:46:00 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS NOT EVIAN WATER? [INAUDIBLE]
00:46:06 Unidentified Speaker THE -- THE THING THAT KIND OF PUZZLES ME IS THAT THE BRAINPOWER ON STAGE WHICH IS TRULY A REMARKABLE...
00:46:49 Unidentified Speaker MY ANSWER WOULD BE THIS. THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BASICALLY ABSENTED HIMSELF OVER...
00:48:09 Unidentified Speaker JIM, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
00:48:11 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK HE SHOULD CERTAINLY DO ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT HE AND HIS ECONOMIC TEAM NEED...
00:49:22 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE. I WOULD ALSO SAY IF McCAIN HAD DONE WHAT I PROPOSED OBAMA DO, McCAIN WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED....
00:49:41 Unidentified Speaker WHO ELSE OUT THERE? RAISE YOUR HAND. PLEASE. OVER THERE. YEAH.
00:49:53 Unidentified Speaker I'M AARON FROM CHANNEL 2 NEWS IN ISRAEL. AS A LAYMAN IN ECONOMICS, DO YOU -- ANY OF YOU OF THE PANEL...
00:50:53 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DO YOU THINK?
00:50:55 Unidentified Speaker JUST BEFORE I ANSWER, THERE'S TWO SMALL POINTS. ONE ABOUT IS THE BANKS. YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE NATIONALIST...
00:52:28 Unidentified Speaker A POSITIVE ASPECT IF IT'S STAINED SUSTAINED?
00:52:30 Unidentified Speaker SHAI, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
00:52:32 Unidentified Speaker I'M A PESSIMISTIC. WHAT HAPPENED ON 9-12 WE SHOT STEROIDS IN THE SYSTEM. WE TOLD PEOPLE TO GO BUY....
00:53:36 Unidentified Speaker ATROPHY IS ANOTHER PART OF THE ANATOMY WHICH IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR US. I WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION...
00:54:52 Unidentified Speaker MOVING TO THE LEFT.
00:54:54 Unidentified Speaker CORRECT.
00:54:56 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS NOT JUST AN ECONOMIC QUESTION, AND TOM, I'D LIKE YOU TO CHIME IN ON THIS. IF EACH OF YOU COULD...
00:55:17 Unidentified Speaker MINE WOULD BE, ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THIS? [LAUGHTER]
00:55:32 Unidentified Speaker MINE WOULD BE THE -- I WROTE ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, MY FAVORITE MOVIE SCENE HAS BECOME THAT SCENE IN...
00:55:57 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER BOAT.
00:56:00 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD SAY IGNORE THE FIRST 100 DAYS DILEMMA. SINCE FDR, WE HAVE THIS OBSESSION WITH THE FIRST 100...
00:56:29 Unidentified Speaker JIM?
00:56:31 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO RESTIMULATE BE HONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. I WOULD TELL THEM...
00:56:38 Unidentified Speaker WHICH WOULD BE?
00:56:40 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD START WITH THE BANKS. I WOULD SAY THAT RESTIMULATING THE BANKS IS USEFUL BUT THEY ARE NOT...
00:57:13 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S AN INTERESTING TENSION BETWEEN YOU AND DAVID HERE IN THAT -- AND YOU REALLY DO SEE IT IN THE...
00:58:07 Unidentified Speaker DAVID?
00:58:08 Unidentified Speaker WHEN HANK PAULSON AND BEN BERNANKE WENT UP TO CONGRESS AND SAID WE NEED TO HAVE THE TARP PROGRAM,...
00:58:51 Unidentified Speaker I WAS CAREFUL TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE STIMULUS PACKAGES THAT DAVID HAS TALKED ABOUT. I WAS TRYING...
00:58:58 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT.
00:59:00 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IF WE HAVE THE STIMULUS THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, IT'S MANDATORY THAT THE PRESIDENT AT THE SAME...
00:59:30 Unidentified Speaker SHAI?
00:59:32 Unidentified Speaker BASICALLY WHAT JIM IS SAYING. START WITH A 12-STEP PROGRAM. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM...
01:00:57 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, PLEASE. CHRIS?
01:01:01 Unidentified Speaker I FIND MYSELF THINKING THAT HERE WE ARE CRITICIZING EVERYONE WE CAN CRITICIZE AS IF SOMEHOW THERE...
01:02:16 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE BEEN. I THINK WE'VE BEEN HAVING A BROAD RANGE DISCUSSION.
01:02:21 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T MEAN THIS UNKIND.
01:02:22 Unidentified Speaker I GOT YOUR POINT. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN BUSH-BASHING. I THINK WE'VE BEEN HAVING A...
01:02:31 Unidentified Speaker IT'S OFTEN SAID IN HOLLYWOOD, NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING. AND TRUTH IS IN WASHINGTON WE DON'T LIKE TO ADMIT...
01:02:48 Unidentified Speaker NONE OF US KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO DO. THAT'S MY BOTTOM LINE POINT.
01:02:51 Unidentified Speaker WELL, WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE WHAT TO DO. [INAUDIBLE]
01:03:01 Unidentified Speaker I JUST WANT TO ADD AND PERHAPS TURN IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION MAYBE TO DAVID TO WHAT MY GOOD FRIENDS...
01:05:22 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T WANT TO DEFEND OR ATTACK ANYBODY. MY JUDGMENT WAS THAT BOTH CHAIRMAN BERNANKE AND PAULSON...
01:06:41 Unidentified Speaker ONE OF THE REASONS I STARTED THE DISCUSSION THE WAY I DID WITH WARREN BUFFETT WHICH ARE GREAT INVESTORS...
01:09:12 Unidentified Speaker IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, THERE'S A MEETING OF THE MINNEAPOLIS FED IN JACKSON HOLE AND ALL THESE GUYS...
01:11:28 Unidentified Speaker I WILL TRY TO GET -- ALL THE WAY BACK THERE. [INAUDIBLE]
01:11:36 Unidentified Speaker WE CAN HEAR YOU.
01:11:38 Unidentified Speaker ONE COMMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO SEE RUSSIA BECOMING A CAPITALISTIC...
01:13:48 Unidentified Speaker WE'LL TAKE THAT AS A STATEMENT.
01:13:52 Unidentified Speaker CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION. [LAUGHTER]
01:13:58 Unidentified Speaker MY FATHER TAUGHT ME THAT EVERYTHING WE LOOKED TO IS IN THE BIBLE SO LET'S LOOK AT JOSEPH. THERE WAS...
01:15:09 Unidentified Speaker SHAI, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THAT.
01:15:16 Unidentified Speaker I'LL TAKE FROM THE GRADUATES. REMEMBER, ELECTRIC CARS. YOU HAVE TO FIND BIG MARKETS THAT ARE ABOUT...
01:15:59 Unidentified Speaker IT DIDN'T. IT DESTROYED THE DELIVERY OF THE MUSICwc BUSINESS BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE MORE MUSIC BEING...
01:17:16 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD RESPOND BY SAYING -- THE BIGGEST WORRY THAT IaN OFTEN HEAR PEOPLE ARTICULATING ARE WE GOING...
01:18:11 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLOSE ON THIS. ANY LAST THOUGHTS?
01:18:16 Unidentified Speaker BASICALLY, I THINK THIS IS A CRISIS OF THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM. IT'S MUCH DEEPER THAN FINANCIAL OR CAR...
01:19:06 Unidentified Speaker TALKING ABOUT THAT IN OUR WORLD AND THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES AT A TIME WHEN AT CHINA AND INDIA AND...
01:20:03 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, I ACTUALLY -- TO GIVE MYSELF THE LAST WORD. I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL BE LOCATED. I DON'T...
01:22:07 Unidentified Speaker VERY WELL DONE.
01:22:10 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
01:22:19 Unidentified Speaker YOU'LL BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT PHARAOH AND I DON'T HAVE A GRAINRY BUT I DO HAVE SOME FOOD...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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