Tippecanoe and Tyler Too

Nov 5, 2008

Book Culture Bookstore

Jan Van Meter talked about the historical context of several catchphrases and slogans that have been used throughout American history. From the 1775 proclamation during the American Revolution to "don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" to Union Admiral David Farragut's 1864 direction at the Battle of Mobile Bay to "damn the .. Read More
Jan Van Meter talked about the historical context of several catchphrases and slogans that have been used throughout American history. From the 1775 proclamation during the American Revolution to "don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" to Union Admiral David Farragut's 1864 direction at the Battle of Mobile Bay to "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" and the plea from a young boy to baseball player Joe Jackson following his testimony for fixing the 1919 World Series, "Say It Ain't So Joe." Jan Van Meter discusses his book with communications strategist Alan Ampolsk at the Book Culture bookstore in New York City. Mr. Meter answered questions from the audience. Jan Van Meter is the author of Tippecanoe and Tyler Too: Famous Slogans and Catchphrases in American History, published by the University of Chicago Press.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:08 Unidentified Speaker JAN VAN METER EXPLORES THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF SEVERAL CATCH PHRASES AND SLOGANS THAT HAVE BEEN...
00:00:54 Unidentified Speaker I THOUGHT I WOULD TALK BUT THE BOOK IT IS GENESIS AND PARLAY THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT AROSE WHICH...
00:10:16 Unidentified Speaker SPEAKING OF HISTORY THE NO HAVE JUST HAD SOME OF. WE ARE LESS THAN AN 24 HOURS PAST THE ELECTION OF...
00:10:34 Unidentified Speaker WELL, SINCE A THE SLOGANS LIKE HISTORY ARE NEVER WRITTEN BY THE LOSERS. [LAUGHTER] NATION FIRST OR...
00:12:18 Unidentified Speaker NOW, A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WHEN WE TALKED LAST WEEK AS YOU JUST MENTIONED AND, YES, WE...
00:12:58 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE CITY UPON A HILL, IT WAS 1630 AND THEN DISAPPEARED IT FROM THE SITE FROM EVERYBODY BUT ACADEMICS...
00:15:01 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE A DREAM WILL NEVER DISAPPEAR BECAUSE IT LIKE YES WEEKEND AND TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY -- THE...
00:15:52 Unidentified Speaker AND THAT MIGHT BE A SLOGAN. [LAUGHTER] WE WILL SEE. YOU TAKE US FROM CITY ON THE HILL IN 1630 ALL...
00:16:08 Unidentified Speaker WELCOME IT STOP THERE BECAUSE MY PUBLISHER SAID YOU HAVE X NUMBER OF WORDS.
00:16:14 Unidentified Speaker DRAM OUT OF PAGES. [LAUGHTER]
00:16:17 Unidentified Speaker AND ALSO HAD TO DO WITH MY FEELING OF THE THINGS AFTER '87 WAS MORE JOURNALISM THAN IT WAS HISTORY...
00:17:25 Unidentified Speaker FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE IN -- APPEARS ON THE D.C. LICENSE PLATES. IT IS A TAGLINE, NOT A HEAD AT...
00:18:09 Unidentified Speaker I'M NOT SURE. THE INTERNET IS NOT A FORM OF MASS MEDIA, IT IS NOT A FORM OF MASS COMMUNICATIONS. ...
00:19:58 Unidentified Speaker DOES THAT MEAN THAT SLOGANS ONLY TAKE HOLD WHEN THEY APPLY TO THE WHOLE CULTURE? OR ARE THERE --
00:20:06 Unidentified Speaker NO, A PERFECT EXAMPLE THE VIETNAM WAR WAS A FORM OF MASS COMMUNICATION IN WHICH EVERYBODY TOOK PART,...
00:21:13 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IF YOU USE THE WORD SLOGAN OUT ON THE STREET AND ASK PEOPLE WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY SLOCAN...
00:21:31 Unidentified Speaker WHICH IS, YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY BABY, WHICH HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF NOT ONLY ALLOW ME TO TALK A LITTLE...
00:24:00 Unidentified Speaker IN THIS IS OFF TOPIC BUT I JUST -- DO PEOPLE INFECTED COMPLAIN TO YOU ABOUT KWANZAA? AND WHY IS THAT?...
00:24:11 Unidentified Speaker YES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS HEAR COMMENTS ABOUT KWANZAA, ABOUT ANY NEW HOLIDAY....
00:24:38 Unidentified Speaker BACK ON POINT. [LAUGHTER] DOWNTOWN FROM HERE PROBABLY RIGHT AT THIS HOUR THERE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE...
00:24:56 Unidentified Speaker AND PARTS THEY HAVE TO BE LUCKY TO MAKE THEIR SUCCESSFUL THEY'RE OFTEN SUCCESSFUL FOR REASONS THAT...
00:25:09 Unidentified Speaker FOR EXAMPLE,?
00:25:11 Unidentified Speaker , A LONG WAY BABY. UNDER A SEARCH AIDS PEOPLE WILL NOT KNOW THAT THIS IS CIGARETTE COMMERCIALS. AND...
00:25:59 Unidentified Speaker YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THIS AND YOU DISCUSS IN THE BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SLOGAN AND A CATCH PHRASE...
00:26:06 Unidentified Speaker SLOGANS AS I SAID ARE A BATTLE CRY THEN MAKE YOU DO SOMETHING WITH A EITHER EXPLICITLY OR IMPLICITLY,...
00:27:49 Unidentified Speaker YOU TALK A BIT BEFORE AND ABOUT CONFLICT AND ABOUT CATCHPHRASES AND SLOGANS BEEN USED TO DIVIDE THE....
00:28:11 Unidentified Speaker CHIMINEAS SOLVENTS THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER? THERE ARE PLENTY OF DEAD SLOGANS. AND THIS IS WRITTEN BY...
00:29:32 Unidentified Speaker SO THERE IS A SUBGROUP OF A STARKEY SLOGANS.
00:29:35 Unidentified Speaker IS THERE ARE IN THERE IS THE ONE THAT HAS LESS OF THE LONGEST AND YOU HAVE I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS...
00:30:43 Unidentified Speaker OTHER COULTER STOOD. I HAVE ASKED PEOPLE WHY CONTEMPORARIES AND OTHER CULTURES AND YOU GET A FEW BUT...
00:33:21 Unidentified Speaker WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE INTERNET AND A MASS MEDIA. AND WHAT THAT DOES TO SLOGANS. THERE IS ALSO...
00:34:00 Unidentified Speaker PEOPLE WHO IMPRINTED 05 AT THE IMAGES COMING ON AS AN IMPORTANT ENGAGING THE RICE. AND I HAVE A PROBLEM...
00:35:56 Unidentified Speaker WHICH MEANS YOU WILL LIKE THE NEXT QUESTION. [LAUGHTER]
00:35:59 Unidentified Speaker OKAY.
00:36:04 Unidentified Speaker WHICH IS THIS, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM AN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION BY WAY OF SLOGANS AND CATCHPHRASES...
00:36:17 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE IT. I THINK WE BEEN THROUGH A TIME WHICH WAS SO CONCENTRATED THE SPAN, THE...
00:36:40 Unidentified Speaker YES TEETEN.
00:36:42 Unidentified Speaker YES, WE CAN CORRECT.
00:36:44 Unidentified Speaker BUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS SLOGANS AREN'T GOING TO WORK THE MESSAGES AREN'T GOING TO WORK.
00:36:50 Unidentified Speaker NO, AND I SAYING MESSAGES FOR, OF COURSE, THEY WORK AND THERE WERE SLOGANS AND MESSAGES THAT SPAN...
00:37:55 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE AN EAGER LOOKING AUDIENCE. IN NEW LUCKIER. QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, LET'S START AT THIS POINT....
00:38:33 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WHAT ALAN WAS TRYING TO SAY WAS THAT AS THE INTERNET AND TEXTING IN A YOUTUBE AND ALL OF THE...
00:39:38 Unidentified Speaker I WAS JUST THINKING --
00:39:40 Unidentified Speaker WAIT FOR THE MICROPHONE, HELP IS ON THE WAY.
00:39:47 Unidentified Speaker I WAS JUST THINKING THAT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING SLOGANS AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE OLD TELEGRAPH,...
00:40:44 Unidentified Speaker I AM NOT SURE IF EVEN CONTINUES NOW. I THINK THE ORAL TRADITION IS PRETTY WELL LOST. AT LEAST IN...
00:40:59 Unidentified Speaker AT YOUR HOUSE. [LAUGHTER]
00:41:01 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS ONLY THE EXCUSE IS PARTS. IN.
00:41:04 Unidentified Speaker BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN I THINK YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT FOR A SLOGAN REALLY TO BE A SLOGAN AND...
00:41:20 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T KNOW. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE THAT IS EASILY ADAPTABLE. BUT THEN...
00:42:02 Unidentified Speaker THE MICROPHONE IS COMING.
00:42:04 Unidentified Speaker WHICH SLOGAN THAT ZERO ABOUT IS YOUR FAVORITE NY?
00:42:16 Unidentified Speaker IN MANY WAYS IT IS PROBABLY HIT THEM WHERE THEY AIN'T, FOR AN ODD REASON WHICH IS PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN...
00:43:27 Unidentified Speaker WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT MEMORABLE SLOGANS, AND YOU TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE BUT I WONDER IF...
00:43:50 Unidentified Speaker IS LIKE TO REMEMBER 5440 OR FIGHT, WHOSE ONLY REAL THE TRUTH IS THE ANGLO-SAXON FORM OF A BANKING...
00:45:17 Unidentified Speaker ANYONE ELSE? WE DO HAVE SOME MORE TIME AND I WANTED TO ADD. [LAUGHTER] EAGER AS YOU MIGHT BE AND I...
00:45:40 Unidentified Speaker ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THERE ARE NOT IN THE BOOK BECAUSE THE ONE THING I FIGURED EVERYBODY DID...
00:47:00 Unidentified Speaker SOME OTHERS, MAYBE LESS POWERFUL, BUT LET ME GET QUICK REACTIONS AND LIGHTNING ROUND IF YOU WILL PERRIN....
00:47:11 Unidentified Speaker I THINK ALL THOSE WHO SAW THAT MOVIE HAD ANY IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS. IT COMES FROM THE MOVIE WALL STREET....
00:47:53 Unidentified Speaker WELL HAVE THE SALON EVERY DOLLAR BILL IN GOD WE TRUST AND THE MESSAGE IT SENDS? IS THAT SOMETHING...
00:48:09 Unidentified Speaker WELL, IT IS NOT REALLY MONETARY SO MUCH AS THE BELIEF THAT THE DEBT THE FOUNDING FATHERS FELL TO A...
00:49:26 Unidentified Speaker IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE.
00:49:28 Unidentified Speaker NO, NO. THAT GETS INTO THE AREA OF HOMERIC EPITHET, IT IS NOT REALLY A SLOGAN OR A CATCH PHRASE,...
00:51:43 Unidentified Speaker IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, YOU GOT TO BELIEVE.
00:51:46 Unidentified Speaker IT IS GREAT, THE PROBLEM IS SO TIED TO NEW YORK.
00:51:53 Unidentified Speaker OR PHILADELPHIA.
00:51:54 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS TRUE, BUT THEY STILL LIVE FROM LA.
00:52:00 Unidentified Speaker THEY STILL HAMID.
00:52:03 Unidentified Speaker AND IT IS TO SAY, YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE, THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THOSE IT IS IN THE FUTURE. YOU'VE...
00:52:22 Unidentified Speaker FINAL QUESTION. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS NATION, OTHER NATIONS, A TRIBAL IDENTITIES. IS THERE A...
00:52:43 Unidentified Speaker NOT UNTIL THE AWFUL THING HAPPENS IN THE WORLD BECOMES A

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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