Economic Recovery Options

Oct 29, 2008

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00:01:09 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE COMMITTEE WILL PLEASE COME TO ORDER. FIRST I WOULD WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE...
00:05:01 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE KIND WORDS. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH...
00:10:02 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU SO MUCH, JIM. TO THE PANEL, LET ME THANK YOU FOR BREAKING FROM YOUR REGULAR SCHEDULE TO...
00:12:20 Paterson, David A.Governor THANK YOU, GOVERNOR SANFORD. WITHOUT YOU, I HAVE NO VOICE HERE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RANGEL. RANKING...
00:20:38 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU SO MUCH, GOVERNOR. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INVITE AND RECOGNIZE GOVERNOR SANFORD, AND I KNOW...
00:21:23 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor A PLEASURE TO BE BACK, SIR. CHAIRMAN RANGEL, CONGRESSMAN MCCRERY, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, AND FORMER...
00:31:08 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative BEFORE I RECOGNIZE MAYOR PALMER, COULD I ASK YOU, GOVERNOR, WHETHER YOU SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THE...
00:31:28 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I APOLOGIZE. I WAS TRYING TO BE NEIGHBORLY HERE AS A FELLOW GOVERNOR. I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST PART...
00:31:36 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE PRESIDENT ASKED AND THE CONGRESS COME PLIED WITH A $700 BILLION RESCUE BAILOUT, WHATEVER. DID...
00:31:44 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I DID NOT.
00:31:46 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative OK. LET ME NOW RECOGNIZE THE MAYOR OF TRENTON, THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS. GOVERNORS...
00:32:22 Palmer, Douglas H.Mayor THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE WITH MY GODFATHER,...
00:39:51 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MAYOR PALMER. WITHOUT OBJECTION, YOUR ENTIRE TESTIMONY WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD....
00:40:42 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I REPRESENT MONTGOMERY COUNTY AS PART OF MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND THE...
00:41:29 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer THANK YOU.
00:41:32 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative MR. FIRESTEIN, THE COMMITTEE ANXIOUSLY AWAITS YOUR TESTIMONY.
00:41:34 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RANGEL, RANKING MEMBER MCCRERY AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR THE...
00:47:15 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer IN 1986, CONGRESS ELIMINATED THE DEDUCTION BANKS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS COULD TAKE FOUR TAX-EXEMPT...
00:49:06 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative SO MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THE CHAIRMAN REPRESENTS -THE HEAD OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS....
00:49:24 Mongan, David G.President I AM PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS. FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, THE NATION FACES...
00:55:53 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative FENTY -- THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MONGAN. WE NOW I REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION....
00:56:05 Van Roekel, DennisPresident GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN RIEGLE, A RANKING MEMBER MCCRERY, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM DENNIS VAN...
01:00:57 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative IT IS NOW MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT MY FRIEND, BRANDYWINE GUARD, THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN -- FEDERATION...
01:01:23 Weingarten, RandiPresident THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION AND ALL OF YOUR WORK. THANK YOU RANKING MEMBER,...
01:08:39 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND I THINK THE ENTIRE PANEL FOR SHARING YOUR VIEWS WITH US. IF WE ARE...
01:09:27 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor ABSOLUTELY.
01:09:31 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY ROLE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO PLAY RELATING TO THE FISCAL INSTITUTIONS, SINCE...
01:09:48 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I PERSONALLY DON'T. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS, THE LATEST ISSUE --
01:09:59 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative NO, THAT IS GOOD FOR ME. YOU DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITY EXPOSING THE TAXPAYER TO ANYTHING...
01:10:07 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WELL, THEY ARE ALREADY EXPOSED. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT ADDING TO THE EXPOSURE, WHICH IS THE NATURE OF...
01:10:23 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative DO THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE -- YOU FELL THE INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT AND ALL -- HAVE YOU...
01:10:35 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor ABSOLUTELY, AS HAS THE REST OF THE NATION. IN 1953 --
01:10:45 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative YOU SAID FEDERAL INTERVENTION WAS INFECTIOUS, AND THAT IS KIND OF ROUGH LANGUAGE. IT AFFECTS OUR ECONOMY...
01:11:15 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WE HAVE OUR PROGRAM IN PLACE.
01:11:21 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I AM JUST ASKING -- I DON'T WANT TO BE OFFENSIVE. ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO YOUR CONCEPT OF YOUR GOVERNMENT...
01:12:10 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor SURE. THEY'RE A WHOLE SERIES OF ALL UNFUNDED FEDERAL MANDATES AT THE CITADEL.
01:12:25 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative WHAT YOU LET HIM ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
01:12:30 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor HE IS TALKING ABOUT UNFUNDED MANDATES.
01:12:35 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative IF THE CHAIRMAN WOULD YIELD, I THINK WHAT IT SAID WAS THAT HE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER STIMULUS...
01:12:46 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative WELL, I HEARD WHAT HE SAID. I DO NOT HAVE A HEARING PROBLEM. I WANNA BE ABLE TO ASK THE CHAIR T --...
01:13:01 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative THE POINT I MADE WAS COME IF YOU WANT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, THAT AN ANSWER THEM.
01:13:09 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative DO YOU SUPPORT THE FEDERAL UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION PROGRAM?
01:13:12 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I DO.
01:13:16 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative DO YOU SUPPORT EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM?
01:13:19 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I DON'T.
01:13:22 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THAT ANSWERS ME. DO YOU SUPPORT ANY FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, BRIDGES, ROADS, SCHOOLS?...
01:13:36 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED.
01:13:40 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative TO YOU THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED?
01:13:44 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor THE DETAILS MATTER HERE. I GO BACK TO THE BASIC REALITY, WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN...
01:13:53 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY QUESTION. DO YOU THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN...
01:14:05 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE BE ADMINISTERED MEDICAID, WHICH IS A FEDERAL AND STATE PROGRAM THAT HELPS A LOT...
01:14:15 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative WHAT MAKES YOU THINK OF THE PRO-GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE A ROLE IN THAT? -- THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD...
01:14:24 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT IS UNSUSTAINABLE, GROWING AT 9.5, 10% OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. AND THIS THE...
01:14:59 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative FOR TORNADOES, HURRICANES, DO THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE IN THE STATES AT ALL?
01:15:06 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor AGAIN, THEY ARE --
01:15:11 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE? THE CHAIR APOLOGIZES IF HE IS NOT FRAMING THE QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER....
01:15:29 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE CHAIRMEN AND GOV. SAMFORD -- CHAIRMAN AND...
01:18:39 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor YES, THE HOUSE AND SENATE CAME BACK IN, THEY DEALT WITH THE BUDGET SHORTFALL THE OLD- FASHIONED WAY,...
01:19:35 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THE CUTS YOU WERE ABOUT TO MAKE IN STATE SPENDING WILL SET BACK YOUR STATE...
01:19:50 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor NO, I DON'T THINK SO. IF YOU LOOK ACROSS OUR STATE, AND GOVERNOR PATERSON'S STATE, THERE ARE A LOT...
01:20:28 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THIS SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE ARMY DAY FUND? -- DOES SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE A RAINY DAY FUND?
01:20:35 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WE DO.
01:20:39 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative WHAT WOULD IT GENERAL REVENUE SHARING, WHICH TO A LARGE EXTENT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW,...
01:20:54 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor THAT IS WHY, IN MY TESTIMONY, I TALKED ABOUT WELL-INTENTIONED BUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. FOR THE...
01:23:29 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU, GOVERNOR SANFORD. ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. MONGAN. YOU SPOKE ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS...
01:23:57 Mongan, David G.President YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
01:24:01 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBER THAT QUANTIFIES THE AMOUNT OF SUCH SUSPENDED PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTRY?
01:24:08 Mongan, David G.President THE NUMBERS THAT I CITED, THIS $40 BILLION, REPRESENTS INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM SEVERAL SOURCES,...
01:24:25 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative IT IS ABOUT THAT $40 BILLION.
01:24:29 Mongan, David G.President $40 BILLION, READY TO GO.
01:24:31 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:24:35 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE GOT THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SCHOOL'S 4 READY AS WELL. -- INFORMATION ABOUT...
01:24:51 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PANEL FOR THEIR INPUT TODAY. I WISH WE HAD A HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATOR HERE....
01:28:24 Weingarten, RandiPresident WE WILL GET YOU FOR THE RECORD THE TYPES OF PROJECTS WE THINK ARE READY TO GO ALREADY. I KNOW IN NEW...
01:29:03 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative I WOULD ASK MR. PALMA AND MR. FIERSTEIN, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME POT HOLES IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY....
01:29:21 Palmer, Douglas H.Mayor YES, WE HAVE SCHOOLS THAT COULD GO NOW THE COULD BE BUILT. PROJECTS, A SIDEWALK REPAIRS, ROAD PROJECTS....
01:31:00 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative WE CAN CUT TAXES, WHICH PUTS A BURDEN OF FURTHER DEFICIT ON OUR CHILDREN, WHETHER IT IS INCREASE STATE...
01:31:34 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative BEFORE I RECOGNIZE OUR NEXT PANELIST, IT IS MY HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION OF THE GOVERNOR HAS TO...
01:32:02 Paterson, David A.Governor GOV. CENTER TURN MY MICROPHONE AGAIN. -- GOV. SANFORD TURN THE MICROPHONE ON AGAIN. IT APPEARED THAT...
01:36:48 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, GOVERNOR, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO LEAVE. GOVERNORS AND FOR TOM EWELL OFF ANOTHER CHANCE TO PERSUADE...
01:37:04 Camp, David "Dave" LeeU.S. Representative I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. AND REALLY RELATING TO US THE DIFFICULTIES YOU...
01:38:14 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WE GAINED JOBS. WE ARE UP ROUGHLY 150,000 NET JOBS FOR MORE STARTED SIX YEARS AGO. ON A NET BASIS,...
01:38:28 Camp, David "Dave" LeeU.S. Representative IT IS REPAIR TO HEAR SOMEBODY COME TO THIS COMMITTEE AND SAY "PLEASE DO NOT PROVIDE ANY FEDERAL MONEY."...
01:39:15 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor AS THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED, THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL. AT A LOCAL...
01:40:21 Camp, David "Dave" LeeU.S. Representative WE HAVE SEEN THE DEFICIT INCREASE BY ABOUT 70%, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BEST PACKAGE COULD BE...
01:41:18 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor IT WILL HURT US IN OUR STATE AND IN OTHER STATES. THE POSSIBILITY OF A TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT THIS...
01:42:54 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THERE IS NO $150 BILLION PACKAGE. WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY PACKAGE OF ALL UNLESS THE PRESIDENT AGREES....
01:43:46 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative TWO QUICK COMMENTS COME AND THEN I WANNA GO BACK TO YOU, GOVERNOR SANFORD. YOUR SUGGESTION REGARDING...
01:44:15 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative CERTAINLY AS RELATES TO THE BOND.
01:44:18 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative EXACTLY. EXACTLY. MR. MARKERCRERY YOU SAY YOU THINK GOVERNOR SANFORD'S JESSAMY SHOULD IS A DIFFERENCE...
01:45:32 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I KEEP GOING BACK TO MY BASIC PREMISE. IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND CUT SOME OTHER...
01:45:49 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative THE ONLY REASON ITS BOARD IS BECAUSE OF THE INNER FIGHT BUDGET. YOUR STATE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT...
01:46:13 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I GRANT YOU THAT IT IS ALWAYS EASY TO SPEND AS SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY.
01:46:19 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative IT IS THE MONEY OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXTENDING -- THERE ARE 2 MILLION-PLUS...
01:46:33 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor ABSOLUTELY, BUT IS THAT TRUST FUND SUSTAINABLE?
01:46:39 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative IT IS VERY SUSCEPTIBLE. IT HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE EXTENSION -- IT IS VERY SUSTAINABLE....
01:47:19 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative I DO NOT HAVE FIGURES BEFORE ME BEYOND 2005, BUT I THINK THAT PATTERN IS CLEAR. THIS IS SOUTH CAROLINA...
01:48:33 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBER.
01:48:35 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE HIGHWAY FUND, YOUR HIGHWAY PROGRAM?
01:48:41 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor YES, IN ITS PRESENT FORM. THE QUESTION IS IN THE DELIVERY SYSTEM. WE COULD DEBATE THE MERITS OF THE...
01:48:56 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative MY NUMBERS ARE NOT MINE.
01:49:00 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor COULD COME UP WITH DIFFERENT SETS OF NUMBERS TO DEBATE ON. I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT INEFFICIENCY...
01:49:18 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative LET ME INTERRUPT.
01:49:20 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WEIGHT. FOLKS FROM THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT SAYS IT IS NOT NEEDED. BASED ON TRAFFIC COUNTS, AND YET...
01:49:43 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative GOVERNOR, YOU CAN PICK OUT ONE YEAR MARK IF YOU WANT, BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT YOU COME HERE AND...
01:51:55 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE DEEPER FOUNDATION. WE COULD...
01:52:22 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative YOU ARE TALKING TO A NOW MAJORITY THAT IS OPPOSED TO POLICIES THAT HAVE ADDED FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS...
01:52:35 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I AM NOT PREACHING. I AM SAYING, HERE IS WHERE WE ARE. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS EITHER POLITICAL PARTY'S...
01:52:53 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. I WISH I COULD GO AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH GOVERNOR SANFORD AND MYSELF....
01:53:43 Ramstad, JamesU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS...
01:54:26 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU. JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING, NOT THAT IT MATTERS, BUT I...
01:55:23 Ramstad, JamesU.S. Representative THANK YOU. LET ME THANK THE PANEL FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP WILL INPUT. THAT MAY...
01:59:19 Weingarten, RandiPresident NO, SIR. I MEANT THAT IN THE NEXT SIX DAYS, THE NEXT SIX OR SEVEN DAYS, WE WILL KNOW WHO THE NEW ...
02:00:57 Ramstad, JamesU.S. Representative YOU ARE SAYING THAT TIMING IS AT THE ESSENCE? THAT UNDERSCORES MY MAIN POINT. WE STILL HAVE THIS CURRENT...
02:01:52 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THANK YOU. I REPRESENT A CITY IN THE NORTHWEST WHERE WE UNDERSTAND WHY THE U.S. SHAKES FROM TIME TO...
02:05:28 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I AM OPEN TO THAT. THAT WAS NOT IN MY TESTIMONY BUT THAT WAS IN REACTION TO A QUESTION.
02:05:34 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative ARE YOU OPEN TO MODERNIZING YOUR LAW TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO ARE PART-TIME WORKERS? THEY ARE NOT COVERED...
02:05:49 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor AGAIN, THE NATURE OF THE WORKFORCE IS CHANGING. I THINK THERE COULD BE AN ADAPTATION TO THE PROCESS....
02:06:13 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative SO, THAT IS A KIND OF POLITICAL ANSWER, ISN'T IT?
02:06:20 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WHAT I AM SAYING IS, TRY NOT TO MAKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANY BIGGER THAN IT IS. THERE ARE A LOT...
02:06:45 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative IF WE DO NOT PASS THIS UNEMPLOYMENT EXTENSION, THAT 18,000 PEOPLE IN SOUTH CAROLINA TO HAVE EXHAUSTED...
02:06:58 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WHAT I AM SAYING IS, CAN WE BE MORE CREATIVE IN THAT PROCESS? CAN WE BE MORE CREATIVE IN THE PROCESS...
02:07:08 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative WHAT DO YOU MEAN -- GIVE ME THE CUT THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE.
02:07:14 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YOU WANT US TO CUT YOUR MEDICAID PAYMENTS?
02:07:18 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor WE WOULD GLADLY TAKE A BLOCK GRANT IN LIEU OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM.
02:07:24 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU SERIOUSLY ARE SAYING --
02:07:30 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor YOU DO NOT THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A DOLLAR THAT COULD BE CUT IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
02:07:36 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ME WHAT IT IS. YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO HAVE YOUR HIGHWAY FUNDS CUT, OR YOUR MEDICAID...
02:07:47 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE THE PERSON TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM TO COME UP WITH THE CUT.
02:07:54 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THAT SEEMS TO ME THAT AS SOON -- AS THIS THING GOES DOWNHILL, AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EXHAUST THEIR...
02:08:18 Sanford, Marshall "Mark"Governor I AM SURE THE MAYOR WILL TELL YOU, BUT I AM SAYING THIS. THIS IS NOT WHAT HAS MADE AMERICA GREAT....
02:08:36 Weller, JerryRepresentative MR. CHAIRMAN?
02:08:37 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YES?
02:08:39 Weller, JerryRepresentative THE AND THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? -- KEN THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?
02:08:47 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YES.
02:08:49 Weller, JerryRepresentative YORK UNEMPLOYMENT MODERNIZATION ACT. LIKE YOU, I URGE THE SENATE TO ACT ON AN EXTENSION PLAN. IT...
02:09:41 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THE TAX THAT WE HAD IN THAT BILL WAS AN EXTENSION OF A TAX THAT IS ALREADY ON. THERE WAS NO INCREASE...
02:10:09 Johnson, SamU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK THE GOVERNOR THAT HAS DEPARTED, OR IS ABOUT TO. IF WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT...
02:10:23 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR COMING. [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE]
02:10:34 Johnson, SamU.S. Representative IT SEEMS TO ME, I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME ADVOCATE OF PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, AND I THINK BOND FINANCING...
02:11:47 Mongan, David G.President THE USE OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND BOND FINANCING IS AN EXCELLENT VEHICLE FOR THOSE PROJECTS...
02:13:25 Johnson, SamU.S. Representative I AGREE WITH YOU. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN....
02:13:45 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative MR. PALMER?
02:13:47 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN IN AND OUT, AND THIS QUESTION MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WHEN I...
02:14:38 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer THE MAN IS A BULL MARKET BACKED UP IN SEPTEMBER. -- THE MINISTER POPE MARKET BACKED UP IN SEPTEMBER....
02:16:05 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative YOU HAVE HEARD THE DISCUSSION THAT GOVERNOR SANFORD SAID ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT SPENDING AND THE...
02:16:30 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer ABSOLUTELY. AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY, A SIMPLE BACKSTOP GUARANTEE OF MANCIPLE -- OF MUNICIPAL DEBT...
02:17:07 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THE MARKET HAS NOT BEEN RATIONALLY EVALUATING THE PERFORMANCE LIKELIHOOD OF THESE BONDS WHEN ISSUED...
02:17:22 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer I DO. I THINK IT PROVIDES -- AGAIN, FOCUSING ON THE SHORT-TERM ASPECT, I THINK IT HELPS HIGHLY RATED...
02:17:46 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative IS THERE A WAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COULD DEVELOP UNDERWRITING CAPABILITY SAID THAT WE ARE...
02:18:02 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer AGAIN, I DO NOT WANT TO IMPLY IT WAS THE FORM WOULD BE, BUT ASSUMING SOME SORT OF FEDERAL GUARANTEE...
02:18:10 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. HOW DO WE DISCERN WHAT TO GUARANTEE AND WHAT NOT?
02:18:19 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer I THINK WERE THE PLACE THAT THE GUARANTEE WOULD HAVE AN EFFECT WOULD BE THE SHORT TERM OR VARIABLE...
02:18:38 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative I AM ASKING YOU, WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DISCERN...
02:18:58 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer AGAIN, I THINK THERE IS SOME PRECEDENT WITH RESPECT TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH...
02:19:14 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:19:19 English, PhilU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD HOPED TO ENGAGE THE TWO GOVERNORS WHILE THEY WERE HERE,...
02:21:44 Mongan, David G.President THANK YOU. MUCH OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF NEW PROJECTS OR WHAT WE TERM PROJECTS OF NATIONAL...
02:24:02 Mongan, David G.President AGAIN, FOR THE SAME REASON THAT WAS QUOTED, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT. IF THE PROJECT IS LARGE,...
02:24:20 English, PhilU.S. Representative WOULD YOU AGREE WITH, WHATEVER WE DO ON STIMULUS, WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY DISCRIMINATING ABOUT THE...
02:24:27 Mongan, David G.President I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. WE SHOULD DISCRIMINATE.
02:24:31 English, PhilU.S. Representative THANK-YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
02:24:41 Thompson, MikeU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. I AM ONE WHO BELIEVES THAT THE BEST STIMULUS...
02:26:56 Palmer, Douglas H.Mayor YES. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, CONGRESSMAN PUT THE COST OF DOING NOTHING, WE CANNOT AFFORD DOING IT...
02:28:29 Mongan, David G.President JUST TO POINT OUT A STATISTIC RELATIVE TO HIGHWAYS. THE AIRPORT ROAD CONDITION IN THIS COUNTRY COST...
02:29:34 Thompson, MikeU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
02:29:37 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer I THINK IF YOU LOOK REGIONALLY, YOU SEE DRAMATIC EXAMPLES OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. EVEN IN WEALTHY...
02:30:57 Thompson, MikeU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:31:02 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YET AGAIN, I AM GOING TO SAY GOODBYE TO YOU IN PUBLIC.
02:31:06 Weller, JerryRepresentative I MAY BE BACK AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.
02:31:10 Weller, JerryRepresentative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS A COURTESY, MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED TO INSERT INTO THE RECORD AN OPENING STATEMENT....
02:33:43 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT, WE HAD THE TRADITIONAL DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES....
02:34:42 Weller, JerryRepresentative IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE STATUS AND EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE HIGHER TAXES ON THEIR CONTRIBUTION, WITH THAT...
02:34:58 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer EMPLOYEES ARE AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED. THAT IS THEIR ONLY RETIREMENT BENEFIT.
02:35:03 Weller, JerryRepresentative THAT WOULD MEAN A TAX INCREASE?
02:35:06 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
02:35:08 Weller, JerryRepresentative IF YOU TOOK AWAY THAT TAX PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT?
02:35:12 Weller, JerryRepresentative I BELIEVE SO PERMIT MR. MONGAN, TOO MANY OF YORK CIVIL ENGINEERS HAVE FOR 1 K PLANS?
02:35:22 Mongan, David G.President I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
02:35:24 Weller, JerryRepresentative DO YOU?
02:35:29 Mongan, David G.President YES, MY FIRM HAS 841 K PLAN.
02:35:31 Weller, JerryRepresentative YOU ARE AN ENGINEER?
02:35:32 Mongan, David G.President YES.
02:35:37 Weller, JerryRepresentative FOR YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES, THAT THE PREFERENTIAL TAX TREATMENT WAS TAKEN AWAY FOR YOUR 401K CONTRIBUTIONS,...
02:36:01 Mongan, David G.President I REALLY CANNOT SPEAK FOR MY 200 PLUS EMPLOYEES. THE EACH HAVE TO MAKE THEIR INDIVIDUAL DECISION....
02:36:25 Weller, JerryRepresentative LET ME ASK, EACH PANELIST, AND GIVE ME A YES OR A NO, IF YOU SUPPORT TAKING AWAY THE PREFERENTIAL...
02:36:39 Palmer, Douglas H.Mayor I DO NOT HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
02:36:45 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer FOR THE REASONS I STATED, NO. WE DO NOT SUPPORT TAKING THAT AWAY.
02:36:51 Van Roekel, DennisPresident I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
02:36:52 Weller, JerryRepresentative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS FOR GIVING ME TIME.
02:37:01 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative I USED TO THE CHAIRMAN TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE MAYOR. -- I YIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE...
02:37:16 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE FACED THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THE RECORD, BUT I CANNOT OVER EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE...
02:38:22 Palmer, Douglas H.Mayor THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE MAYOR REPRESENTS 80% OF THE POPULATION. WE ARE A BIPARTISAN ORGANIZATION....
02:39:13 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
02:39:16 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA WILL INQUIRE.
02:39:30 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative I WILL USE THIS MICROPHONE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND HAVEN'T COME. I WANT TO FOCUS ON A...
02:40:24 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer YES. I REFERRED EARLIER TO SOME SERIOUS ISSUES IN THIS REGION AND THE WATER AND SEWER FRONT. WE HAVE...
02:42:10 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative IN MY CITY OF LOS ANGELES, THERE IS ALWAYS SOME WATER PROJECT UNDERWAY, WHETHER IT IS INSTALLING WATER...
02:43:01 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer THIS GENTLEMAN IS -- EVERYBODY PROVIDES WATER AND SEWER SERVICES. I AM SURE THAT MOST FIND THAT THAT...
02:43:34 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative SMALL AND LARGE SCALE WHERE ANY MEMBER OF THE CITIES IN YOUR JURISDICTION COULD UNDERTAKE IF THEY...
02:43:59 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative DESPERATE GOOD PAYING JOBS FOR MANY AMERICANS -- WE CANNOT SHIP ABROAD A JOB FOR INFRASTRUCTURE...
02:44:06 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer RIGHT.
02:44:10 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative QUESTIONS FOR OUR TWO PRESIDENTS FROM THE TEACHERS' ASSOCIATION. THE CHAIRMAN HAD THIS NOTION OF A...
02:45:17 Van Roekel, DennisPresident EVERYTHING I KNOW SAYS THAT IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
02:45:24 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative IS THAT ABOUT A PIG A SOFTBALL THAT YOU HAVE EVER SEEN THROWN YOUR WAY?
02:45:29 Van Roekel, DennisPresident YES, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
02:45:32 Weingarten, RandiPresident THE QUESTION WAS ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE READY-FOR- CONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS THAT ARE READY TO DO NOW....
02:45:57 Becerra, XavierU.S. Representative I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSES. AS BIG A SOFTBALL AND AS EASY IT IS TO HIT THAT OUT OF THE PARK, WE STILL...
02:47:20 Larson, John B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I WANT TO THANK OUR PANELISTS AS WELL....
02:49:21 Weingarten, RandiPresident THERE IS NO -- WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 20 YEARS, I WOULD SAY, ATTEMPTING TO ALWAYS...
02:50:28 Larson, John B.U.S. Representative HOW MANY SCHOOLS WOULD YOU ESTIMATE PROBABLY DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT BROADBAND IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE...
02:50:46 Weingarten, RandiPresident UNLESS MY COLLEAGUE HAS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU. OUR SENSE IS WE ARE NEVER...
02:51:21 Larson, John B.U.S. Representative THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ASKING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, AND THE...
02:51:59 Van Roekel, DennisPresident TO ADD TO THAT, AS WE DO INTERVIEWS WITH BUSINESS AS OUTSIDE, WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT IS THAT OFTEN OUR...
02:52:46 Larson, John B.U.S. Representative IF I COULD ASK YOU FROM A CIVIL ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN...
02:53:34 Mongan, David G.President OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE CONGRESS HAS TRIED TO HELP, BUT WE HAVE CLEARLY A REPORT THAT THE NATIONAL...
02:55:03 Larson, John B.U.S. Representative THANK ALL THREE OF YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES.
02:55:09 Brady, KevinU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK THE PANEL FOR YOUR INFORMATION TODAY. CONGRESS DOES NOT HAVE A GOOD...
02:59:23 Mongan, David G.President I THINK CONGRESS NEEDS TO ADDRESS NEXT YEAR IN THE TRANSPORTATION REAUTHORIZATION WAYS TO DEAL WITH...
03:00:40 Brady, KevinU.S. Representative YOU OBJECT TO US PAYING FOR THAT IS THE STRUCTURE AND FUNDING RATHER THAN BORROWING MONEY TO DO THAT?...
03:00:47 Mongan, David G.President WE THINK THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING CAN BE FINANCED AND THAT THOSE...
03:00:57 Brady, KevinU.S. Representative Q. I YIELD BACK. -- THANK YOU. I EUBACTERIA -- I YIELD BACK.
03:01:10 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE LASER LIGHT FOCUSED. THIS WILL BE A MAJOR AGENDA ITEM FOR US, NOT JUST...
03:04:33 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer AGAIN, I THINK BECAUSE THERE IS NO MARKET OUT THERE FOR PROVIDERS -- WELL, THERE IS NOBODY WILLING...
03:06:03 Blumenauer, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU. OUR FRIENDS FROM EDUCATION, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS BIGGER PICTURE?
03:06:11 Weingarten, RandiPresident WE ACTUALLY JUST PUT OUT A REPORT ON GREEN SCHOOLS AND HOW WE CAN CLEAN OUR SCHOOLS AND WHAT IT MEANS...
03:07:35 Van Roekel, DennisPresident FOLLOWING UP ON THE COORDINATING WITH SCHOOLS, I WORKED WITH THE GRAIN COUNCIL, AND THEY ARE DOING...
03:08:09 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU. MR. PORTER WILL INQUIRE. -- MR. PORTER WILL INQUIRE.
03:08:21 Porter, JonU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THE NEXT SET OF PANELISTS ARE WAITING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I, THE GREAT...
03:12:05 Weingarten, RandiPresident WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND EVEN WEEK -- EVEN WHEN NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND,...
03:12:52 Porter, JonU.S. Representative I'M NOT DISAGREEING. WE PROBABLY WOULD AGREE WITH MOST OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT...
03:13:23 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer IF I COULD ADD ONE, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF IMPOSITION OF AN UNFUNDED MANDATE -- THERE...
03:14:01 Porter, JonU.S. Representative MY LAST STATEMENT IN CLOSING -- TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS CONGRESS HAS NOT LOOKED AT WAYS TO REDUCE MANDATES...
03:14:23 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY WILL INQUIRE.
03:14:27 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative THANKS YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH THE REMARKS FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEVADA....
03:17:51 Mongan, David G.President YES --
03:17:55 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE DESIGN. WE HAVE THE SCHEDULES READY TO GO. WE JUST SIMPLY...
03:18:35 Mongan, David G.President YES, AND I'M SORRY IF I MISLED YOU IN MY ANSWER TO THE CONGRESSMAN'S QUESTION BECAUSE I INTERPRETED...
03:19:09 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative AS A CIVIL ENGINEER --
03:19:12 Mongan, David G.President THAT ARE READY TO GO, THAT CAN BE WORKED ON IMMEDIATELY AND WILL NOT BE MULTI-YEAR.
03:19:18 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS, AREN'T THERE? WHAT ABOUT THE WATER PROJECTS? WHAT ABOUT THE SEWER...
03:19:53 Mongan, David G.President THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
03:19:58 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS TO GET OFF THE...
03:20:08 Mongan, David G.President THAT IS CORRECT.
03:20:11 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative WHY ARE WE NOT PUSHING FOR THAT?
03:20:13 Mongan, David G.President WE ARE PUSHING FOR THAT.
03:20:16 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WOULD CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID TO MR. ENGLISH. HE WAS QUOTING DIRECTLY FROM THIS...
03:20:48 Mongan, David G.President YES.
03:20:51 Pascrell, William "Bill" J. Jr.U.S. Representative AND YOU SUPPORT THAT?
03:20:52 Mongan, David G.President YES.
03:20:57 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative GENTLE LADY FROM NEVADA WILL INQUIRE.
03:21:01 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT WITH US AND SAYING ALL THIS...
03:24:49 Mongan, David G.President THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, I BELIEVE IN APRIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, PUBLISHED THEIR NUMBER,...
03:25:20 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THE HIGHER NUMBER IS WHAT IS ACCURATE. MY BUILDING TRADES PEOPLE ARE DEAD IN...
03:25:51 Mongan, David G.President VERY MUCH SO. BECAUSE THE STATE HAS CUT BACK ON TRANSPORTATION SPENDING, THEY CANCELED SOME OF MY PROJECTS...
03:26:17 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative MAY I CONTINUE TO QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT? THANK YOU. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENTS OF BOTH...
03:27:32 Weingarten, RandiPresident THE IMPLICATIONS, THE MORAL, THE SOCIAL, THE ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS ARE HUGE. THERE IS A NOT SO RECENT...
03:29:17 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION, AND MAYBE YOU CAN INCORPORATE IT. I WAS APPALLED WHEN THE PRESIDENT...
03:29:56 Van Roekel, DennisPresident ABSOLUTELY. IT IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO TEACH A CHILD WHEN THEY'RE NOT FEELING WELL, AND THIS IS SO UNFAIR...
03:30:20 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:30:25 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CONGRESSMEN AND HOLLAND.
03:30:31 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. MY FIRST QUESTION RELATES TO TESTIMONY ON THE ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM...
03:31:42 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer THANK YOU. ON THE FIRST ONE, THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT THERE ARE A LARGE RANGE OF CATEGORIES, TYPES...
03:32:43 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL PARTICIPATION YOU MIGHT GET IN THIS PUBLIC- PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS...
03:32:55 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer I DO THINK IT JUST MAKES THEM MORE ATTRACTIVE AS AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE THE PENALTY IS NOT THERE. PLUS,...
03:33:04 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer WITH RESPECT TO TRANSIT AGENCIES, METRO IN THIS REGION FACES SOME HUGE ISSUES RELATED TO THE ELIMINATION...
03:34:20 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative IF WE COULD PURSUE THIS ISSUE, IT IS AN ISSUE THAT I KNOW NEW YORK IS EXPERIENCING. WASHINGTON METRO,...
03:35:14 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MARYLAND AND RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE LADY FROM PENNSYLVANIA, CONGRESSWOMAN...
03:35:23 Schwartz, AllysonU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THE PANEL'S PATIENTS. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG...
03:40:38 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer I THINK TAX CREDIT BONDS HAVE PROVEN TO BE A GOOD TOOL. I THINK THERE WHICH CHALLENGES THAT FIRST...
03:41:38 Mongan, David G.President I WOULD SIMPLY ECHOED THAT. THE BOARD TOOLS WE HAVE IN THE TOOLBOX, THE MORE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE. ...
03:41:49 Schwartz, AllysonU.S. Representative AGAIN, THE POINT IS THAT THESE ARE NOT MAKE WORK PROJECTS. MAYBE THAT IS THE OTHER THING I WANT TO...
03:42:52 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE YIELDING BACK. LET ME THANK --
03:42:55 Neal, RichardU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN? I DID NOT HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE RECOGNIZED.
03:43:01 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative I'M SO SORRY.
03:43:04 Neal, RichardU.S. Representative JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT ALL THE TESTIMONY WAS EXHAUSTED. I WANT TO THANK MR. VAN HOLLEN FOR ASKING A...
03:44:36 Firestine, Timothy L.Chief Administrative Officer SURE. AGAIN, THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LARGE RANGE OF TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBJECT STILL TO AMT...
03:45:25 Neal, RichardU.S. Representative THE PUBLIC IN SOME REGARDS TENDS TO REJECT A GOVERNMENT SPENDING IN GENERAL BUT SUPPORTED IN A SPECIFIC....
03:47:16 Neal, RichardU.S. Representative TO ARGUE THAT WE OUGHT TO CONTINUE BORROWING THE MONEY FOR IRAQ, YOU HEAR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES...
03:48:03 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative LET ME THINK THIS PANEL -- THANK THIS PANEL FOR ITS INSURANCE AND SHARING YOUR TIME WITH US -- FOR...
03:52:28 Bernstein, JaredDirector CHAIRMAN RANDRANGEL, THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO TESTIFY TODAY. THE CURRENT DOWNTURN THREATENS TO...
03:58:58 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THE CHAIR WILL NOW CALL ON AN OLD FRIEND OF THE COMMITTEE, BOB GREENSTEIN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR...
03:59:11 Greenstein, RobertFounder and Executive Director THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. UNLIKE MOST OF THE OTHER WITNESSES, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO TALK TODAY...
04:05:36 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHRISTINE OWENS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE NATIONAL EMPLOYMENT LAW PROJECT. THANK...
04:05:43 Owens, Christine L.Executive Director THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT WHAT CONGRESS CAN DO BETWEEN...
04:11:28 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE YHERE. IN MY TESTIMONY, I EXPLAIN WHY THE SHORT RUN...
04:17:03 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES A NEIGHBOR THAT DOES BUSINESS IN THE HARLEM COMMUNITY, MARTELLA TURNER...
04:17:26 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN, RANKING MEMBER, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR PROVIDING ME THE OPPORTUNITY...
04:25:02 Rangel, Charles B.U.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND MS. JOSEPH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH YOU ON THESE ISSUES...
04:25:18 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar THANK YOU. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH THE TODAY. THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY IS EXPERIENCING A...
04:31:18 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THANK YOU.
04:31:34 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PANEL FOR THEIR PATIENTS AND THEIR INDULGENCE....
04:36:34 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THESE ISSUES FOR YEARS. WITHOUT...
04:38:54 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative WHAT WE DO AT THE STATES WHOSE MEDICAID SYSTEM HAS GONE BROKE?
04:38:59 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor THIS IS WHY THE FISCAL RELIEF IS SO CRITICAL. YOU HEARD ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING. YOU CAN...
04:39:49 Stark, Fortney "Pete"U.S. Representative THANK YOU.
04:40:00 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY, ALL OF YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE TODAY. DOCTORSR. VIARD, YOU...
04:41:46 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar THANK YOU, MR. RANKING MEMBER, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. I DO BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE...
04:43:39 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative WOULD YOU AGREE THAT BY AND LARGE IN DECADES PAST, SAY FROM WORLD WAR II FORWARD UNTIL FAIRLY RECENTLY,...
04:43:56 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I THINK THAT IS CORRECT. PROBABLY THE DEGREE OF SUCH COMPETITION HAS BEEN LESS. IT HAS BEEN IN RECEIPT...
04:44:11 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative NOT ONLY THAT, BUT CERTAINLY, OUR ECONOMY, POST-IT WILL II -- POST-WORLD WAR II, COMPARED TO MOST...
04:44:39 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I DO AGREE WITH THAT. AS AN ECONOMIST, I CAN PROVIDE A PERSPECTIVE FROM THE ECONOMICS PERSPECTIVE....
04:45:07 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE EUROPEANS HAVE GOTTEN THEIR ACT TOGETHER ECONOMICALLY MORE SO...
04:45:48 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar YES, I AGREE.
04:45:50 McCrery, JimU.S. Representative TAKE ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND THEN EXAMINE THE RELATIVE TAX SYSTEMS WITH RESPECT TO THE SAVINGS AND...
04:47:28 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative SINCE THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT A STIMULUS PACKAGE, THOUGHT OF ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND...
04:48:42 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative I THINK THERE IS A BASIC AGREEMENT THAT OUR ECONOMY HAS NOT STARTED TO RECOVER, RIGHT? I THINK ALL...
04:50:29 Bernstein, JaredDirector I AM UP ON INFRASTRUCTURE. HE'S MY FRIEND AND WE OFTEN DEBATE SUCH THINGS. HIS ANALYSIS, I WOULD ARGUE,...
04:53:49 Levin, Sander MartinU.S. Representative MY TIME IS UP. MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO COMES AFTER ME -- LET'S STICK TO THE FIVE AND IT WILL. MAYBE THEY'LL...
04:54:31 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THE JOMON FROM GEORGIA. -- THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA.
04:54:39 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative I WILL GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO RESPOND AFTER HE ANSWERS A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS. THE FIRST STIMULUS...
04:54:50 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar IS HARD TO MAKE A PRECISE DETERMINATION. EMPIRICAL STUDIES HAVE FOUND ONLY A MODEST FORTUNE, LESS...
04:55:03 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar -- ONLY A MODEST PORTION.
04:55:07 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative YOU SAY SOME NATIONS ARE TRYING TO KEEP TAX RATES HIGH. ISN'T THAT THE MISSION OF THE LECD?
04:55:17 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I'M NOT SURE THEY VIEW THEIR MISSION THAT WAY, BUT THERE ARE PROPOSALS FOR COOPERATION OR COLLUSION...
04:55:40 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE OTHER COMMENTS?
04:55:42 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I DRAW A DISTINCTION TO RUB MY TESTIMONY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE. SHORT RUN FISCAL STIMULUS...
04:57:44 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative AS FAR AS IMPROVING DIVERSITY IN THE NATIONAL PARKS, IT BUT WOULD NOT ADD TO THE STIMULUS OF THE ECONOMY?...
04:57:50 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I DID NOT HEAR THAT QUESTION?
04:57:53 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative A STUDY ON IMPROVING DIVERSITY IN NATIONAL PARKS IS NOT VERY STIMULUS TO THE ECONOMY?
04:57:58 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar IT WOULD NOT SEEM TO BE.
04:58:01 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING COMMENTS ON YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE PENSION REFORM...
04:58:19 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner THE PENSION PROTECTION ACT ITSELF WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE PENSION PLANS ARE PROPERLY FUNDED TO MEET...
04:58:37 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative DO YOU THINK THE STIMULUS PACKAGE SHOULD PUT MONEY INTO PENSION FUNDS?
04:58:42 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner NO, WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IS THAT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, IS A SITUATION WHERE EMPLOYERS WHO DEFINED...
05:00:15 Linder, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
05:00:20 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TROUBLED ME IN THE $700 BILLION BAILOUT, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AIMED AT...
05:01:54 Bernstein, JaredDirector I THINK WHERE YOU ENDED UP IS WHERE I WOULD START. THIS IS A MATTER OF REGULATION AND OVERSIGHT AND...
05:04:40 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative IS IT ALL IN THE BANKING COMMITTEE OF REGULATION OR ARE THERE THINGS IN THE TAX CODE THAT NEED TO BE...
05:04:53 Bernstein, JaredDirector I THINK IT HAS GOT TO BE -- MY INCLINATION IS IT IS MOSTLY THE FORMER AND NOT THE LATTER.
05:04:59 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I DON'T THINK THERE ARE MANY TAX IMPLICATIONS I AM AWARE OF?
05:05:05 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT REFORM OF THE UI SYSTEM. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM OR WHO...
05:05:25 Owens, Christine L.Executive Director THE BENEFICIARIES WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO LEAD -- MOST LIKELY TO NEED THE UI SYSTEM....
05:05:43 Owens, Christine L.Executive Director THERE IS MORE VOLATILITY IN THE LOW WAGE LABOR MARKET AND HIGH WAGE EARNERS. WHEN THEY ARE UNEMPLOYED,...
05:07:27 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative EXPLAIN THE BUSINESS ABOUT WORKING PART TIME. IF I GET LAID OFF AND TAKE A PART-TIME JOB, I AM PUTTING...
05:07:46 Owens, Christine L.Executive Director NOT IN MOST STATES. HAS TO DO WITH THE EARNINGS THRESHOLD AS WELL AS MANY STATES JUST DON'T CONSIDER...
05:08:41 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative THANK YOU.
05:08:48 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I FOUND THIS TO BE A VERY INTERESTING DAY AND I CAME IN SPECIFICALLY OF A...
05:10:05 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN PLAIN SPEAK. IT'S A LITTLE EASIER. [LAUGHTER] ...
05:10:49 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative HE TALKED ABOUT THE CYCLICAL NATURE AND IRONICALLY, WHEN THE MARKET IS UP, THE VALUE OF PLAN ASSETS,...
05:11:25 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AM LOOKING AT THIS CHART AND I NOTICE THAT IN THE LATE 1990'S, THAT IS WHEN...
05:12:14 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative I THINK THE PENSION PROTECTION ACT, PART OF THE PROBLEM RIGHT. IN GOOD TIMES, THEY CAN FIND MORE....
05:12:21 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS ABOUT SIX YEARS TOO LATE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE LATE 1990'S....
05:12:26 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative WHEN I SAID THAT PART OF IT RIGHT, THEY GOT PART OF IT WRONG. THEY DO ALLOW THE FUNDING GOOD TIMES,...
05:12:34 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner ABSOLUTELY. IT IS IRONIC THAT THE PENSION PROTECTION ACT COMES ALONG AND HAS RULES IN THEIR TO AGGRESSIVELY...
05:13:26 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THIS CHART WAS DONE BY THE CENTER FOR RETIREMENT RESEARCH. THIS IS UP AT BOSTON COLLEGE AND THE DISTANT...
05:13:57 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner LET'S START BY LOOKING AT 2007. IF YOU NOTICE ON THE CHART, IT IMPLIES THAT IN 2007, WE HAD PLANS...
05:14:27 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. NONE OF US WANT INSOLVENT PENSION PLANS. NONE OF US WANTS A BURDEN FALLING...
05:14:58 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner ABSOLUTELY.
05:15:00 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative SO AS THE MARKET RECOVERS, THE FUNDING WILL RECOVER ALSO IN LARGE PART? OR, TO THE EXTENT WE PLACE...
05:15:32 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. AND I MIGHT ADD ANOTHER THING -- IF YOUR PLAN IS NOT FROZEN, WHAT IS GOING TO...
05:16:29 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative MY FINAL QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE COMMUNITIES -- COMMITTEES INDULGENCE ON TIME. I BELIEVE THIS IS...
05:17:09 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT. I HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS HERE. I HAVE A COUPLE IN A WRITTEN STATEMENT...
05:17:35 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative EVEN TAKING IT TO PRE- PPA?
05:17:42 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner 20% WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND 30% WOULD BE EVEN MORE HELPFUL. GIVE A TWO OR THREE-YEAR WINDOW. WE OPENED...
05:18:31 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE CONSIDER WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYTHING IN A LAME-DUCK...
05:18:57 Turner-Joseph, Martella A.Partner IF I MAY RAISE ONE QUICK POINT -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING BEFORE YEAR-END. COME YEAR AND, WE'RE...
05:19:10 Pomeroy, EarlU.S. Representative THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE.
05:19:12 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative YES, IT IS TRUE WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO WORK WITH MR. BUSH TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BEFORE YEAR'S END.
05:19:20 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative AND EDDIE HAVE TO CATCH A PLANE, DO YOU HAVE TIME?
05:19:27 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING OF YOUR TIME FOR A FEW MINUTES. I WANT TO ASK SOMETHING -- THIS IS...
05:21:52 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor I THINK THE ANSWER IS QUITE CLEAR. WE CANNOT SIMPLY CONTINUE TO PUT PATCHES ON THIS SYSTEM. WE COULD...
05:22:34 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative HOW EASY THAT COMPREHENSIVE REFORM?
05:22:36 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor I THINK THERE ARE MANY GOOD IDEAS ON THE TABLE. WE BUILD ON OR WORKS TODAY. OUR PUBLIC SYSTEM, PRIVATE...
05:23:33 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative IT SEEMS TO ME THE WAY WE DELIVER HEALTH CARE SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY IS -- IF YOU EXCUSE BE FREEZING,...
05:24:26 Lambrew, Jeanne M.Associate Professor YOU ARE ASKING SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT A LIFETIME ON THIS. I HAVE SEVERAL PAPERS IN A BOOK CHAPTER COMING...
05:25:46 Kind, RonU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE AND A PANEL HAS BEEN GREAT. THIS HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTING....
05:26:51 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar I HAVE A QUICK ANSWER AND THEN BACK TO BOB. THERE IS A RULE OF THUMB THAT SAYS FOR EVERY PENNY GAS...
05:27:34 Kind, RonU.S. Representative LET ME ASK REAL QUICK AS FAR AS PRIORITIES -- WHERE SHOULD OUR FOCUS BE? SHOULD WE BE MORE FOCUSED...
05:28:08 Greenstein, RobertFounder and Executive Director BOTH THE SHORT-TERM AND LONG- TERM ARE IMPORTANT, BUT I WOULD DISTINGUISH AMONG THEM. THERE IS A QUICK...
05:28:31 Kind, RonU.S. Representative UNEMPLOYMENT, FOOD STAMPS?
05:28:32 Greenstein, RobertFounder and Executive Director THE QUESTION IS WHAT TO DO. WE ARE IN A STEEP DOWNWARD SLIDE RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF ECONOMISTS BELIEVE...
05:31:15 Kind, RonU.S. Representative LET ME CONCLUDE BY ASKING, WHEN WE START GETTING WORRIED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM STRUCTURAL DEFICITS BEING...
05:31:25 Greenstein, RobertFounder and Executive Director WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. I DO WANT THE PERFECT TO BE THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. IN AN...
05:33:33 Kind, RonU.S. Representative I WOULD AGREE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:33:45 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY HERE TODAY. I THINK WE ALL...
05:36:00 Bernstein, JaredDirector MY ANSWER IS YES. THE PROVISIONAL ON THE POINT THAT MUCH OF THIS IS FAIRLY NEW STUFF. THE EVIDENCE...
05:37:25 Viard, Alan D.Resident Scholar IF I COULD ADDRESS THAT -- I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF POLICY...
05:38:17 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT INCENTIVES FOR NATIONAL POLICY GOALS, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...
05:38:52 Greenstein, RobertFounder and Executive Director YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THINGS THAT ARE GOOD POLICY AND YOU...
05:39:36 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative I AGREE. THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS HERE -- WHAT EXTENT TO THESE INVESTMENTS IN GREEN ENERGY MAKE SENSE...
05:39:59 Bernstein, JaredDirector ONE FURTHER POINT -- IS TESTIMONY LAST WEEK AND GIVEN BY A PROFESSOR FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS...
05:40:39 Van Hollen, ChristopherU.S. Representative I WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL THAT. THANK YOU.
05:40:43 McDermott, James "Jim"U.S. Representative WE WANT TO THANK THE PANEL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME YOU GOT HERE OR WHAT TIME YOU WERE TOLD IT WOULD...
05:41:51 Unidentified Speaker AS THIS HEARING WRAPS UP, A COUPLE OF NEWS STORIES -- THE FEDERAL RESERVE CUT A KEY INTEREST RATE...

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