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WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS RECORDED PROGRAM AND TAKE YOU LIVE NOW TO A CONFERENCE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL... |
| 00:01:12 |
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120 DAYS ON AVERAGE, TO -- UNDER ROOSEVELT'S TRAPS IS, TO ONLY 77, FOR THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS. SO,... |
| 00:02:04 |
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THANK YOU, SCOTT AND THANK YOU TO THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS. IT IS GREAT TO WORK WITH YOU, ... |
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AS YOU CAN SEE HE KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LOBBYING. WELL, IT IS MY PLEASURE ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL... |
| 00:13:20 |
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THANKS. I'LL SIT HERE FOR THE PANEL. I HAVE A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION. THEY BOTH HAVE PREPARED REMARKS... |
| 00:13:58 |
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GREAT. THANKS. THANKS, JIM AND GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. I THINK IN THINKING ABOUT THE QUESTION THAT... |
| 00:21:54 |
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THANK YOU, GARY. PAT? |
| 00:21:56 |
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THANK YOU, JIM, THANK YOU, SCOTT FOR INVITING ME TO PARTICIPATE, AND GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL. I WISH... |
| 00:31:13 |
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THANK YOU, PAT. VERY MUCH. A FEW WORDS FROM ME ABOUT LEGISLATIVE STRATEGIES OF THE PRESIDENT. THE... |
| 00:36:44 |
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WELL, DO YOU WANT TO -- THAT IS A KEY CHALLENGE AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER FROM MY DAYS AT THE WHITE... |
| 00:39:40 |
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BEFORE YOU GO, YOU REMEMBER ME, I CAME DOWN AND VISITED YOU, YOU INVITED ME DOWN TO THE WHITE HOUSE... |
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I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING THAT. |
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SO IN THAT, AS THE -- AS YOU GO INTO THE FOURTH QUARTER AND THE LONG GAME, THESE PEOPLE GO NATIVE... |
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ESSENTIALLY, AS GARY AND YOU HAVE SAID AND YOU ARE SUGGESTING JIM, I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THOUGH... |
| 00:42:47 |
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LAST POINT IS IMPORTANT, IT IS ABOUT TRUST. BOTH OF YOU SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THAT, IF YOU GET SOMEBODY... |
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WELL, IF IT'S NOT CAREFULLY HANDLED, AND -- YES, IT IS A PROBLEM. IF YOU ARE -- IF YOU AS A CREATURE... |
| 00:44:50 |
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RIGHT, GARY? |
| 00:44:52 |
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I WAS GOING SAY, TO PAT'S EARLIER POINT ABOUT EXPECTATIONS I THINK THAT IS A KEY CONSIDERATION. I... |
| 00:46:47 |
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WE'VE GOT THE POLICY AGENDA THAT YOU ARE PUSHING BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONFIRMATION PROCESS AND IT... |
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I MEAN, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY AND I KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS IN MY REMARKS, IS THAT I THINK THE... |
| 00:49:07 |
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I WILL JUST MAKE ONE QUICK POINT, WE WROTE ABOUT THIS -- YOU WROTE ABOUT THIS A FEW YEARS AGO. I... |
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YOU MENTIONED WORKING WITH THE PARTY LEADERS. YOU WORKED FOR PARTY LEADERS AND GARY HAD -- HAS ALSO... |
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I THINK YOU ARE PUTTING A FINGER ON A TENSION THAT TRANSCENDS, YOU KNOW, PARTISAN -- DOESN'T MATTER... |
| 00:51:38 |
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YES. I AGREE WITH THAT. I AM -- KIND OF A FRAMEWORK UP FRONT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AGAIN, I WAS -- SAW... |
| 00:52:39 |
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DOES -- ISN'T IT DIFFERENT WHEN THERE IS A CRISIS AND THERE IS A PERCEIVED CRISIS, OF CONSENSUS ABOUT... |
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IT DOES AND THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, CAUTION I WOULD ADD TO THAT, OR CAVEAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT... |
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LIKE THE MARKET MAY FALL A THOUSAND POINT... |
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RIGHT! RIGHT! SOMETIMES MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL GET A LITTLE BIT LEERY OF THAT, AND YOU HAVE TO... |
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AND I THINK AS A GENERAL MATTER, I DON'T THINK IN RECENT HISTORY THERE HAS BEEN A PRESIDENT TAKING... |
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HISTORICALLY IT HAS BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE WE HAVE HAD A TRANSITION DURING WAR THAT WAS VIETNAM. AND... |
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I THINK MY EXPERIENCE IS CHIEFS OF STAFF HAVE BRILLIANT INSIGHTS IN HIRING. YES, I THINK THEY NEED... |
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YEAH. AND IN KIND OF A COROLLARY TO THAT, IS THAT THE -- A SMART CHIEF OF STAFF AND A SMART PRESIDENT... |
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THIS OFFICE WAS ESTABLISHED BY BRYCE HARLOW. THE ORGANIZATION AND STRUCTURE OF IT HAS NOT CHANGED... |
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YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT -- ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS, A HOUSE AND A SENATE... |
| 01:00:17 |
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BESIDES NOT HAVING INTERNS IN THE OFFICE, WHAT OTHER ADVICE |
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SORRY. I HAD TO DO THAT: IN THE HOUSE ANDERSEN -- AND THE HOUSE AND SENATE WERE ATTEMPTING TO USE... |
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BUT THE -- WE TRIED HANDLE THAT WITHIN OUR CONGRESSIONAL AFFAIRS, AND WE FOUND THAT INCREASINGLY,... |
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ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO THE AUDIENCE. WE'RE WRITING A PAPER ON THIS TOGETHER THAT WILL BE... |
| 01:02:49 |
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I MEAN, I WOULD POINT TO KIND OF THE BURNOUT FACTOR MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, THE JOB IS --... |
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AND I THINK IT'S QUITE REMARKABLE THAT YOU NEVER REALLY LEAVE THE JOB. I MEAN, I REMEMBER MY FAMILY... |
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LAST QUESTION, A LITTLE EDGY, BOTH OF THESE PRESIDENTS SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE LOBBYISTS IN ... |
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I TOLD YOU IT WOULD BE -- THEY BOTH LEFT AND WENT INTO LOBBYING FIRMS. BUT -- |
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YOU KNOW, I THINK THATO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK NUMBER ONE, I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS... |
| 01:06:04 |
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BEFORE PAT GOES, I WANT TO SAY THAT GARY HAS A NEW BOOK ON LOBBYING FROM APPRENTICE -- FROM PRNTISS... |
| 01:06:36 |
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I THINK MOST PEOPLE WHO GET A JOB IN THE WHITE HOUSE AS DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS OR ASSISTANT... |
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I THINK IT'S DISINGENIOUS FOR THEM TO MAKE THIS ARGUMENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHO'S ON THE CAMPAIGN, WHO'S... |
| 01:09:34 |
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BOB WAGER, WITH PRUDENTIAL FINANCIAL, PAT AND I GO BACK A LONG WAY. A QUICK NOTE, WE REMEMBER WHAT... |
| 01:10:54 |
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I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I THINK THAT INHERENTLY, IT IS SMART TO REACH OUT. I THINK ALL ADMINISTRATIONS... |
| 01:12:14 |
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PAT, USING THE LBJ EXAMPLE, MOYERS, DIDN'T HE HAVE A LOT OF POLITICAL CAPITAL COMPARED TO ANYONE ... |
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[INAUDIBLE] |
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HE KNEW THAT BECAUSE OF HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEMBERS ON THE HILL FOR MANY YEARS. THAT'S UNIQUE.... |
| 01:12:55 |
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I THINK THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING IS, AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SOFT SCIENCE OF POLITICS, BUT, AGAIN,... |
| 01:13:31 |
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AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT JOHNSON UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT THERE'S A RHYTHM AND A SEQUENCING TO... |
| 01:14:22 |
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GARY, YOU KNOW, THIS RHYTHM AND SEQUENCING IS IMPORTANT. THINK ABOUT WHAT REAGAN DID WITH HIS FIRST... |
| 01:14:56 |
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YEAH, AND I THINK THAT THAT BECOMES EVEN MORE -- A MORE COMPLICATED GAME OF CHESS OF BECAUSE OF WHAT'S... |
| 01:15:42 |
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THERE ARE MANY AMERICAN UNIVERSITY STUDENTS HERE THAT PAY A VERY HIGH TUITION, AND I WANT THEM TO... |
| 01:15:51 |
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MY NAME IS ZACH FENN, STUDENT AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITY, AND I WAS WONDERING, I KNOW THE PRESIDENT AND... |
| 01:16:12 |
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NO. THERE IS -- THERE'S KIND OF AN ORIENTATION PROGRAM THAT THEY GO THROUGH THAT'S REALLY JUST A... |
| 01:16:50 |
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES HAPPEN, THOUGH, IS THAT IF THERE'S A -- IF ONE PARTY TAKES CONTROL THAT... |
| 01:17:57 |
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BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT A FRESHMAN COMING IN, MY CENTER RECEIVED A GRANT BACK IN 1980 TO... |
| 01:18:53 |
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LET'S GO BACK HERE, IN THE MIDDLE, PLEASE. |
| 01:18:59 |
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BRIAN SUBLEY, CENTER FOR COMMUNITY CHANGE. THIS QUESTION IS FOR DR. THURBER, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT... |
| 01:19:16 |
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WELL, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN SOMETHING IS COMING ALONG THAT'S SENSELESS. AND IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE... |
| 01:20:34 |
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SURE. WELL, I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS MUND AIN AS -- MUNDANE AS WE WERE ON A PRESIDENTIAL... |
| 01:21:26 |
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RIGHT. THERE WAS ALSO NEWT GOING TO A FUNERAL IN ISRAEL AND BEING FORCED TO GET ON THE AIRPLANE,... |
| 01:21:43 |
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THIS WAS A CONSIDERED ACT THIS WAS A -- IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING STORY. THE SPEAKER WANTED TIME WITH... |
| 01:23:15 |
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SO IT WAS NOT A SENSELESS MISTAKE? |
| 01:23:17 |
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NO, IT WAS VERY DELIBERATE! |
| 01:23:19 |
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ANOTHER QUESTION FROM SOMEONE. RIGHT OVER HERE. |
| 01:23:30 |
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GEORGE GOULD, GOULD CUTTING. BACK TO THE ADVOCACY ISSUE. YOU NOTICED I DIDN'T USE THE OTHER WORD.... |
| 01:24:07 |
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LET ME PUT THIS IN ANOTHER CONTEXT ALSO TO REINFORCE IT, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU GET AN AGREEMENT... |
| 01:24:26 |
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RIGHT. FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MOST MODERN WHITE HOUSES HAVE HAD NOW... |
| 01:27:04 |
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I THINK, GEORGE, OUR WHITE HOUSE OPERATED EXACTLY THE SAME, PUBLIC LIAISON PERSON ASKED OUR COOPERATION,... |
| 01:28:04 |
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GOOD. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 10-MINUTE BREAK.... |
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[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] |
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[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] |
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YOU JUST HEARD JAMES THURBER MENTION THERE'S GOING TO BE A TEN MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
