Regulation of Wall Street

Oct 6, 2008

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Luigi Zingales talked about his testimony before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee today on regulatory issues and financial excesses that led to the bankruptcy filing by Lehman Brothers and the government bailout of AIG. He responded to telephone calls and electronic mail.
Luigi Zingales talked about his testimony before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee today on regulatory issues and financial excesses that led to the bankruptcy filing by Lehman Brothers and the government bailout of AIG. He responded to telephone calls and electronic mail.

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TIME SPEAKER TEXT
00:00:10 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS TONIGHT AT ON C- SPAN2.
00:00:15 HOST JOINING US WHEN NOW IS LUIGI ZINGALES HERE TO TALK ABOUT TESTIMONY THAT YOU WILL BEGINNING LATER ON...
00:00:29 GUEST WE WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT WRONG WITH LEHMAN BROTHERS, BY ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS AND RELIABLE...
00:00:45 HOST THIS IS THE "NEW YORK TIMES." IT POINTS TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT HAS SOME REGULATION...
00:01:12 GUEST I THINK IT WAS BAD REGULATION. REGULATION THAT WAS NOT USEFUL. FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC REGULATORS...
00:02:02 HOST SOME PEOPLE POINT TO THAT AS A PROBLEM IN THIS SITUATION. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
00:02:09 GUEST IT IS MORE REALLY ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION OF THIS. NO REASON WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT ONE COMPANY GOING...
00:02:34 HOST CREDIT DEFAULTS SOUND COMPLICATED. WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY? MAYBE IT IS BETTER TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY WORK....
00:02:44 GUEST IT IS BASICALLY AN INSURANCE. IS AN INSURANCE WITH A FUNNY NAME BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WANT TO BE REGULATED....
00:03:00 GUEST SO IT IS NOT INSURANCE --
00:03:04 HOST SO IS IT IS INSURANCE BUT IT IS NOT REGULATED, SO IT IS CALLED SWAPS.
00:03:15 GUEST THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT -- LET US SAY THAT ON AND J.P. MORGAN. I MAKE A LOAN TO GENERAL MOTORS. I REALLY...
00:05:26 HOST WHEN CREDIT -- WHEN COMPANIES WENT TO GET THE CREDIT, IT WAS NOT THERE. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CAPITAL...
00:05:36 GUEST IN THE INSURANCE MARKET, BECAUSE IT IS NOT REGULATED, WE ADD SOME THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY...
00:06:15 HOST SO INSTEAD OF REGULATION, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WENT UNDER BECAUSE OF RUMORS?
00:06:23 GUEST NOT EXACTLY. THE SITUATION WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE WORLD LOST IN THE SUBPRIME MARKET. IT...
00:07:21 HOST WHAT WILL YOU TELL LAWMAKERS WHEN YOU TESTIFIED AGAINST REGULATION?
00:07:29 GUEST I THINK THE CAUSE OF THE CRISIS IS THAT REGULATION, LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, AND MARKET CAN'T -- COMPLACENCY....
00:07:55 HOST THIS IS THE COVER OF THE "FINANCIAL TIMES." WE WILL HAVE LIVE COVERAGE OF LEHMAN BROTHERS TESTIFYING...
00:09:06 GUEST AS I MENTIONED, PRESSURE FROM CONGRESS AND GOVERNMENT TO PROMOTE COKEHOME OWNERSHIP, MORTGAGES TO...
00:10:37 HOST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LEGISLATION THAT THE PRESIDENT SIGNED. $700 BILLION TO PURCHASE DEVALUED ASSETS....
00:11:11 GUEST I HAVE BEEN ON RECORD CRITICIZING THIS PLAN. THE IDEA OF A PLAN IS VERY SOUND. AS I MENTIONED, NOW...
00:12:13 HOST WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE?
00:12:19 GUEST AND THERE IS A COMPLICATED PLAN THAT I WILL TRY TO SIMPLIFY. THE REASON WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOW IS...
00:13:29 HOST HOW DO YOU TURN DEBT INTO EQUITY?
00:13:34 GUEST THE BANKRUPTCY CODE ALLOWS THAT. THIS IS OFTEN ALLOWED IN CHAPTER 11. THE PROBLEM IS IF WE ARE TO...
00:13:58 GUEST NEXT PHONE CALL, LEBANON, MISSOURI. CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE...
00:14:43 GUEST I THINK THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THERE WERE MISTAKES DONE BY SOME PEOPLE. THE QUESTION IS NOW TO...
00:16:44 HOST TREASURY ANNOUNCES PLAN TO INCREASE DEBT AUCTION TO HANDLE A BAILOUT ON -- OPTION. WHAT IS THE DEBT...
00:16:55 GUEST IF THERE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TREASURY AUCTION, THAT IS BUYING UP TDEBT FROM THE TREASURY. MAYBE...
00:17:14 HOST VIRGINIA. IT INDEPENDENT -- INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: IT IS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO HEAR YOU AND I AM...
00:19:24 HOST I NEED YOU TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE.
00:19:31 GUEST WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE STATES STAYED OUT OF THIS?
00:19:38 HOST YOU SAY THAT THE BAILOUT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AND YOU POINT TO THE MARKET, SAYING THAT YOU WERE...
00:19:47 GUEST YES NOT SAYING THAT THIS WAS WRONG IS NOT SAYING THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE IN THERE. WE ARE...
00:20:11 HOST WHY DO YOU THINK THE MARKETS ARE RIGHT ON THIS?
00:20:16 GUEST THE MARKETS AND EUROPE ARE GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE ARE NOT SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
00:20:28 HOST FLORIDA, REPUBLICAN LINE. CALLER: I HAVE A COMMENT AND QUESTION. FIRST, YOUR PLAN IS BRILLIANT AND...
00:20:52 HOST WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY, I PRESUME.
00:20:59 GUEST I AM NOT TESTIFYING ON THE BAILOUT PLAN, I AM TESTIFYING ON THE LEHMAN BANKRUPTCY. I WILL BE HAPPY...
00:22:15 HOST SOME ARE CALLING ON CANDIDATES TO NAME THEIR PROSPECTIVE TREASURE PROTECT -- TREASURY SECRETARY. ...
00:22:30 GUEST IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN AND I AM NOT TURN IT THIS NAME IS HELPFUL. THE KNEE-JERK...
00:23:13 HOST MICHIGAN. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT DEREGULATION...
00:24:10 GUEST I AM NOT SURE IF I SAID REGULATION WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED THE PROBLEM. I JUST SAY THAT THE SOURCE...
00:25:07 HOST 1 IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT REGULATION?
00:25:13 GUEST PERHAPS INDUCING FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC TO BUY INTO THE SUBPRIME LOAN MARKET.
00:25:19 HOST TAMPA BAY. INDEPENDENT LINE. CALLER: IS NOT THE CAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM ALAN GREENSPAN TELLING US THAT...
00:25:41 GUEST FINANCIAL INNOVATION -- IN THE BEGINNING OF THE AUTOMOBILES, PEOPLE WERE BLAMING THEM FOR ACCIDENTS....
00:27:02 HOST IF THIS BILL IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS?
00:27:07 GUEST MY FORECAST IS WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD PRETTY SOON ONE WAY OF THINKING IS TO DIRECTLY...
00:27:51 HOST WE WILL LISTEN TO YOU TODAY WHEN YOU TESTIFY BEFORE THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 10:00 EASTERN TIME....

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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