Equal Opportunity Education

Sep 15, 2008

Aspen Institute

Ronald Brownstein moderated a discussion on equality of educational opportunity. Topics included why the broad national support for educational reform and No Child Left Behind has not been implemented at the local level. Members of the panel responded to questions from the audience. "Session Three: A matter of will; can we sustain our .. Read More
Ronald Brownstein moderated a discussion on equality of educational opportunity. Topics included why the broad national support for educational reform and No Child Left Behind has not been implemented at the local level. Members of the panel responded to questions from the audience. "Session Three: A matter of will; can we sustain our commitment to excellence for all children?" was part of the Aspen Institute's National Education Summit held at the Mayflower Hotel.

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00:00:03 Unidentified Speaker ROY ROMER SPOKE EARLIER TODAY AT THE ALL-DAY SUMMIT ON EDUCATION ISSUES. WE'RE GOING TO RETURN NOW...
00:00:27 Unidentified Speaker -- OPTION A OR OPTION B. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO START INTRODUCING OUR PANELISTS FOR OUR NEXT SESSION....
00:02:35 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE LEARNED IS THAT WHEN WE REALLY FOCUS ON SOMETHING WE MAKE PROGRESS....
00:03:00 Unidentified Speaker JOHN?
00:03:01 Unidentified Speaker A COUPLE THINGS WE LEARNED. ONE IS THAT THE FUNDAMENTAL PREMISE IN THE ACTION OF THE LAW IS TO MAKE...
00:03:50 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WHAT WE LEARNED -- I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I DO AGREE WITH BOTH -- WITH WHAT WAS SAID....
00:04:53 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I WON'T REPEAT WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE. BUT I WILL SAY THIS -- I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE HEARD ALL...
00:05:39 Unidentified Speaker LET ME START WITH YOU AND THEN I'LL TRY TO NARROW THIS MORE TIGHTLY. WHEN YOU LOOK IN YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE...
00:05:58 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I'LL START. THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT IS LEADERSHIP. WHEN I WENT TO ATLANTA NINE YEARS AGO,...
00:07:15 Unidentified Speaker WHEN YOU SAY NO LONGER EXIST, CLOSED? DOOR SHUT?
00:07:19 Unidentified Speaker ONE WOULD CLOSE COMPLETELY. ONE WE TRANSFORMED INTO AN THE EASTERNTIVE SCHOOL. THERE IS A DROPOUT...
00:07:54 Unidentified Speaker THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN SCHOOLS THAT ARE SUCCEEDING AND THOSE NOT?
00:08:01 Unidentified Speaker WE LOOKED AT CONDITIONS OF TEACHING AND LEARNINGS IN HIGH PERFORMANCE SCHOOLS AND HELPING SCHOOLS...
00:08:48 Unidentified Speaker YOU SAID NOT ONLY STUDENTS BUT ALSO PARENTS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT HIGH QUALITY WORK AND EXPECTATIONS ARE....
00:09:00 Unidentified Speaker SO I THINK ONEst THINGS THAT NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND DID WAS PROVOKE A VERY STRONG OPPORTUNITY AND DEMAND...
00:09:49 Unidentified Speaker JOHN MAKES A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE NOTICED WHEN WE SPEND TIME IN UNUSUALLY...
00:12:02 Unidentified Speaker BEFORE RAND JI JUMY JUMPS IN HERE, WHAT DOES THAM PLI? WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN...
00:12:17 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK WE WOULD ARGUE THAT STATES IN LEAVING THAT CURRICULUM FUNCTION TO LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS...
00:13:15 Unidentified Speaker YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S GREAT THAT KATIE SAID THAT. IF YOU -- IF THERE WERE TEACHERS IN THIS AUDIENCE,...
00:13:41 Unidentified Speaker I HAD TO RUSH OVER TO THE SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE I GET A PARKING SPOT SO THAT I CAN BE HERE IN TIME FOR...
00:13:58 Unidentified Speaker WHO DO YOU VIEW -- DO YOU AGREE WITH KATIE? WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT GAP FILLED? WHAT YOU...
00:14:05 Unidentified Speaker I THINK I WANT TO GO BACK TO ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THE WAY YOU ASKED JOHN WHICH IS THE -- THANK...
00:16:09 Unidentified Speaker TWO THINGS. LET ME BUILD ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID. FIRST OF ALL, THERE SHOULD BE NO MYSTERY ABOUT...
00:16:46 Unidentified Speaker THERE IS A VERY CLEAR SET OF WHAT IS THE BODY OF KNOWLEDGE. HOW YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE CAPACITY AND...
00:17:23 Unidentified Speaker AND DO YOU -- DO YOU SEE IT PRIMARILY AS A QUESTION OF CARROTS, AN OPPORTUNITY OF PROVIDING ON THE...
00:17:41 Unidentified Speaker IT'S A HUGE QUESTION. SO EITHER TO GO -- I'D LIKE TO ANSWER IT WITH YOUR FIRST PROVICATION WHICH IS...
00:18:51 Unidentified Speaker LET ME JUST SAY ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT AND THOSE OF YOU WHO SAW "THE NEW...
00:20:33 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. AND THEN I'LL ASK YOU.
00:20:37 Unidentified Speaker I WANTED TO SHARE THAT THE WAY WE APPROACH ACCOUNTABILITY PRECEDED NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND IN ATLANTA....
00:22:38 Unidentified Speaker IF I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, HOW THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS, THE SPECIFIC ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS,...
00:23:04 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WE TOLD OUR PEOPLE WHEN THE ACT CAME INTO EXISTENCE, CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON TEACHING WELL, SO THAT...
00:24:23 Unidentified Speaker HOW DOES IT CHANGE IN YOUR COUNTY?
00:24:26 Unidentified Speaker VERY MUCH SO. WE HAVE SEEN REMARKABLE PROGRESS IN YOUTH. THE ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISION, QUITE FRANKLY...
00:25:17 Unidentified Speaker YOU WORKED WITH A LOT OF LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WHAT KIND OF TOOLS IS THE LAW PROVIDING FOR LOCAL...
00:25:35 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WHAT THE LAW HAS DONE FOR REFORM, CHANGE ORIENTED SUPERINTENDENTS, IT'S PUT THE...
00:28:53 Unidentified Speaker YOU KNOW, I CAN STILL PLEAD BEING A LOCAL LEADER, PROBABLY. I STILL HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS,...
00:30:26 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO THE MODERATORS. DO YOU BELIEVE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE MEASURED BY A BROADER SET...
00:30:36 Unidentified Speaker I DO, BUT ALSO I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN TERMS OF HOW I SAY THIS. WHEN YOU GO INTO A SCHOOL THAT...
00:32:11 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE NATIONAL ISSUES AND HOW THEY GROW OUT. JASON, ARE YOU...
00:32:26 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAINING, THAT SPHERE OF THE WORLD. WE...
00:32:57 Unidentified Speaker WHO WANTS TO START?
00:32:59 Unidentified Speaker COMPONENTS OF GOOD DEVELOPMENT ARE. THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR. WE DO KNOW, AT THIS POINT, HOW TO TEACH...
00:34:40 Unidentified Speaker I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN A LITTLE ON WHAT JOHN JUST SAID. ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY DISCOVERED IS THAT...
00:35:57 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS ONE OF THE PARTICULAR AREAS WHERE ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. AND YET, WE ALL KNOW CERTAIN...
00:37:19 Unidentified Speaker TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE OTHER PART OF IT, THAT IS WHEN WE'VE INVESTED THE TIME AND PRACTICE DOESN'T...
00:37:56 Unidentified Speaker ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO DIANE TOWARD THE END WITH ANOTHER SET OF REACTIONS AND QUESTIONS IN THE AUDIENCE....
00:38:41 Unidentified Speaker INCOMPLETE.
00:38:42 Unidentified Speaker POSITIVE.
00:38:45 Unidentified Speaker POSITIVE.
00:38:47 Unidentified Speaker POSITIVE. THREE POSITIVES AND ONE INCOMPLETE. LET'S START WITH THE MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION. SHOULD...
00:39:05 Unidentified Speaker LARGELY. I BELIEVE THERE ARE COME PON EPTS OF IT THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED.
00:39:10 Unidentified Speaker COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THOSE.
00:39:13 Unidentified Speaker SO, YES AND NO. THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT THE LAW THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. FOCUSING ON STANDARDS...
00:39:56 Unidentified Speaker I'LL COME BACK IN A SECOND.
00:39:59 Unidentified Speaker CORRECT MISTAKES MADE IN EXCUSE AND DIRECTION TO FUNDING AND METRIC USED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT...
00:40:41 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE WITH JOHN. SAME PRINCIPLES, BETTER DETAILS.
00:40:47 Unidentified Speaker LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TAILS. START WITH YOU BEVERLY. MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN...
00:40:56 Unidentified Speaker WELL, DITTO THE CONTINUITY. WE WANT THOSE THINGS, THE PIECES TO FOCUS. CHANGES. THE GROWTH MODEL....
00:41:14 Unidentified Speaker THE GROWTH MODEL MEANING MEASURING THROUGH PROGRESSION?
00:41:19 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THE DATA SYSTEMS EXIST AND THE TECHNOLOGY...
00:44:04 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO MOVE THE JAM? WHAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN TO GET THERE.
00:44:11 Unidentified Speaker MY BEST GUESS AT THIS POINT IS 2010. WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO GET THERE IS WORK STARTS EARLY IN...
00:44:36 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS THE LAWS WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT TO GET TO THAT. WHAT WOULD BE...
00:44:52 Unidentified Speaker PAST THE DEADLOCK?
00:44:54 Unidentified Speaker HOW WOULD THE LAW HAVE TO CHANGE TO GET IT DONE?
00:44:59 Unidentified Speaker I ACTUALLY AM CONFIDENT THAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO STICK WITH IT. WHAT'S HAPPENED LAST YEAR IS WHAT...
00:45:29 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU THINK THE LAW WILL LOOK MUCH LIKE IT DOES NOW OR WILL THERE BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES?
00:45:36 Unidentified Speaker IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SOMEBODY SAYS DOES IT LOOK THE SAME OR DIFFERENT. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THERE'S...
00:47:21 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU BELIEVE ONE OF THE ISSUES -- I'LL ASK JOHN ON THIS -- MOVING ON TO URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS....
00:47:34 Unidentified Speaker TEN YEARS OF SUPERINTENDENT.
00:47:36 Unidentified Speaker THEY ARE ALL ABOVE AVERAGE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S COME UP A LOT IS WHETHER DESCRIBING TOO MANY...
00:48:06 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO GO BACK AND SAY TWO THINGS. SEVERAL POINTS IN THE LAW, WHICH I THINK ARE CRITICAL ARE SOME...
00:49:50 Unidentified Speaker JOHN, YOU RAISED THE "P" WORD, PRESIDENT. DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE A CLEAR SENSE OF HOW EITHER JOHN McCAIN...
00:50:10 Unidentified Speaker I, AS I SUSPECT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS ROOM HAS PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT EACH IS SAYING ON IT....
00:50:22 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF DIRECTION? BARACK OBAMA GAVE A SPEECH WHICH HE SAID DON'T TELL US THE ONLY...
00:51:00 Unidentified Speaker HE'S QUITE CLEAR HE'S PROTESTING AND PROACCOUNTABILITY. HE WANTS BETTER TESTS. I DAUT THERE'S A SINGLE...
00:51:13 Unidentified Speaker YOU THINK HE'S COMMITTED TO THE STRUCTURE AS IT STANDS?
00:51:20 Unidentified Speaker NO KOUT.
00:51:23 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S NO ONE I KNOW WHO IS NOT COMMIT TODAY HAVING FAIR, RELIABLE ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE. THIS...
00:53:18 Unidentified Speaker YOU MENTIONED THE IDEA OF WHAT WORKS FUND. REPLICATING WHAT WORKS. I WANT TO ASK THE LOCAL, THE SUPERINTENDENTS...
00:53:47 Unidentified Speaker IT'S BEEN THE CHALLENGE FOREVER. WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL IN NEW YORK CITY AND A PRINCIPAL OF TWO LEVELS...
00:55:02 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE. WE KNOW WHAT WORKS. I'M PROUD OF THE FACT YOU HAVE THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. WE KNOW WHAT...
00:56:11 Unidentified Speaker WHO IS THE WE IN THAT SENTENCE? WE AS SOCIETY, COMMUNITY, PARENTS?
00:56:19 Unidentified Speaker WE AS A COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY RESPONSIBLE. THAT IS THE WE IN THIS CONVERSATION. THE NOTION OF ALL...
00:56:48 Unidentified Speaker OKAY.
00:56:49 Unidentified Speaker INTERVENTION FROM THE AUDIENCE.
00:56:52 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS NOT ON, BUT --
00:56:54 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, IT IS.
00:56:55 Unidentified Speaker IS IT? I THINK WE HAVE TOO MUCH AGREEMENT ON THE PANEL. WE CAN STIPULATE NOW THAT EVERYBODY SUPPORTS...
00:59:21 Unidentified Speaker WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES. LET'S GET RESPONDING.
00:59:25 Unidentified Speaker WHEN I CAME INTO EDUCATION AND AGAIN, RISK OF DATING MYSELF, 1970, NEW YORK CITY, THERE WAS AN AWFUL...
01:01:47 Unidentified Speaker THOUGHTS FROM ALL OUR PANELESTS. QUICK THOUGHTS.
01:01:52 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE, LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THIS NEW YORK CITY SCHOOL SYSTEM SEVERAL YEARS...
01:02:38 Unidentified Speaker IT'S NOT EITHER. IT IS BOTH. IT IS BOTH WHEN THE JUDGMENT CALL IS FOR YOUTH. I THINK THE IDEA OF...
01:03:09 Unidentified Speaker KATIE.
01:03:12 Unidentified Speaker NOBODY WHO HAS WORKED DIRECTLY WITH KIDS WOULD EVER SUGGEST THAT WE DONATE TO IMPROVE HEALTH CARE...
01:04:06 Unidentified Speaker THOSE ARE THE FINAL WORDS. THANK THE PANEL. GREAT JOB, GUYS.
01:04:17 Unidentified Speaker LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE JOIN US AS THE NATIONAL ENL INDICATION SUMMIT CONTINUES DURING OUR LUNCH...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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