Future of Georgia and the Caucasus

Aug 15, 2008

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty

Analysts and Georgian Service journalists provided eyewitness accounts of the armed conflict in Georgia and examined scenarios for the future of the Caucasus region. They also spoke about the humanitarian crisis caused by the conflict, military maneuvers, and the status of a ceasefire agreement. answered questions from the audience.Marina .. Read More
Analysts and Georgian Service journalists provided eyewitness accounts of the armed conflict in Georgia and examined scenarios for the future of the Caucasus region. They also spoke about the humanitarian crisis caused by the conflict, military maneuvers, and the status of a ceasefire agreement. answered questions from the audience.Marina Vashakmadze participated by satellite video uplink from Tbilisi and David Kakabadze Jeffrey Gedmin by video uplink from corportate headquarters in Prague.

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00:00:10 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE LIVE AT AN EVENT LOGGING OF THE RECENT CONFLICT BETWEEN GEORGIA AND RUSSIA. JOURNALISTS CURRENTLY...
00:01:20 Unidentified Speaker VERY GOOD.
00:01:26 Unidentified Speaker IS THAT WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FOR HER?
00:01:29 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE ONE MINUTE OF. MAYBE IT'S SIX. I THINK WE'RE STARTING AT 6:03. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PART....
00:03:07 Unidentified Speaker HELLO, MARIA.
00:03:11 Unidentified Speaker JULIAN?
00:03:13 Unidentified Speaker COULD YOU -- COULD YOU -- WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE SECRETARY RICE RESPONSE SO FAR?
00:03:40 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR HER LINK TO BE IMPROVED. [INAUDIBLE]
00:03:58 Unidentified Speaker AND DO YOU KNOW THAT DAVID JUST DID FOR US A BLOGGERS CONFERENCE CALL WITH 19 BLOGGERS ON THE ONLY...
00:04:10 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WE'RE READY TO START.
00:04:16 Unidentified Speaker WHAT'S THE NUMBER WHERE WE CAN CALL YOU?
00:04:21 Unidentified Speaker GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. AND WELCOME TO RADIO FREE EUROPE/RADIO LIBERTY. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR AUDIENCE...
00:04:46 Unidentified Speaker WELCOME, EVERYBODY. I'M JEFF GO AHEADMAN, PRESIDENT OF RADIO FREE EUROPE/RADIO LIBERTY. WE'RE AN...
00:05:38 Unidentified Speaker HELLO.
00:05:41 Unidentified Speaker IN WASHINGTON, SENIOR ANALYST AND CORRESPONDENT DANIEL KIMMIGE. WELCOME TO YOU. AND WE WILL HAVE...
00:05:59 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, MAY I BEGIN WITH YOU? WE GOT OFF THE PHONE 2 MINUTES AGO WITH YOUR CORRESPONDENT IN THE OUTSKIRTS...
00:06:24 Unidentified Speaker YES, HELLO, EVERYBODY. AS JEFF ALREADY MENTIONED IN GEORGIA WHO TOLD US THE RUSSIAN TANKS STARTED...
00:07:50 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, THIS INITIATIVE BY RUSSIAN FORCES, AT LEAST ALLEGEDLY TO SECURE THE WITHDRAWAL OF RUSSIAN TROOPS,...
00:08:02 Unidentified Speaker YES. AND AGAIN, I WOULD CITE -- I WOULD QUOTE THE CORRESPONDENT WHO TOLD US THAT HE WITNESSED -- ...
00:08:36 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, GORI KEEPS COMING UP AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THIS CONFLICT. COULD YOU SAY A WORD ABOUT THE CITY....
00:08:47 Unidentified Speaker WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT IS AN IMPORTANT CITY BECAUSE IT'S THE BIRTH PLACE OF STALIN AS PROBABLY MANY...
00:11:00 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, THANK YOU. I THINK AS WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE ON THE GROUND WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, IT CAN FEEL A...
00:11:59 Unidentified Speaker THANKS, JEFF. I THINK THAT OF ALL OF THOSE CHOICES RIGHT NOW I WOULD STRESS THE THEME OF FRAGILITY....
00:12:40 Unidentified Speaker AND A QUESTION TO YOU AND TO YOU, DANIEL, I HEARD THE RUSSIAN MINISTER SAY ON TELEVISION THIS MORNING...
00:13:07 Unidentified Speaker I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE OFFICIAL U.S. REACTION TO THIS, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THIS IS A VERY STRONG...
00:14:01 Unidentified Speaker DAVID --
00:14:06 Unidentified Speaker MAY I ADD SOMETHING TO WHAT DANIEL HAS SAID. TODAY PRESIDENT MEDVEDEV HAS NOTHING AGAINST THE TERRITORY...
00:16:22 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, THANK YOU. WE ARE BROADCASTING FROM THE OPERATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF RADIO FREE EUROPE/RADIO...
00:16:40 Unidentified Speaker OKAY.
00:16:41 Unidentified Speaker WASHINGTON, GO AHEAD.
00:16:45 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. AND ALSO STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION....
00:16:56 Unidentified Speaker DAN, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. WHEN THE UPCAUSE ON OSSETIAN REFUGEES DID THEY FLEE INTO OTHER...
00:17:13 Unidentified Speaker YOU MEAN DURING THIS ONE WEEK OR YOU MEAN THE WAR OF 1990s?
00:17:22 Unidentified Speaker NOW.
00:17:29 Unidentified Speaker THERE WERE NO ARMED CONFRONTATIONS OF BIG SCALE IN ABKHAZIA. THERE WERE SOME THINGS REPORTED IN UPPER...
00:18:56 Unidentified Speaker CAN WE TAKE ANOTHER QUESTION?
00:18:59 Unidentified Speaker HELENA, FREEDOM HOUSE. AND MY QUESTION IS TO DAVID. DAVID, HOW WOULD YOU EVALUATE CURRENT ATTITUDE...
00:19:27 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, THIS IS THE QUESTION, WHICH I'VE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES ALREADY IN THESE RECENT DAYS. AT THIS...
00:21:05 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT TO THE QUESTION FROM THE COLLEAGUE FROM FREEDOM HOUSE. YOUR HOUR AND...
00:21:35 Unidentified Speaker THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THE INFORMATION WHICH THEY GET FROM...
00:23:40 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, DAVID, AND THEN I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU, DANIEL KIMMAGE, IN WASHINGTON....
00:24:01 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE VERY GOOD COOPERATION WITH THE RUSSIAN SERVICE. I'M QUITE OFTEN A GUEST IN THEIR TALK SHOWS....
00:24:49 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU ARE THESE DAYS ON A RUSSIAN TALK SHOW? WHAT'S THE MOOD? WHAT KIND...
00:24:58 Unidentified Speaker I WAS JUST TWO OR THREE DAYS AGO A GUEST ON A TALK SHOW, WHICH IS A VERY POPULAR ONE, WHICH IS CALLED...
00:25:23 Unidentified Speaker CAN WE GET RID OF THIS?
00:25:25 Unidentified Speaker YES. [LAUGHTER]
00:25:27 Unidentified Speaker SO I WAS GUEST -- TIME OF GUEST, IT IS THE SHOW, ONE HOUR CALL-IN SHOW OF THE RUSSIAN SERVICE. AND...
00:25:31 Unidentified Speaker GUEST, IT IS THE SHOW, ONE HOUR CALL-IN SHOW OF THE RUSSIAN SERVICE. AND WE WERE -- I WAS SITTING...
00:27:02 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, THANK YOU. DANIEL, IF I COULD TURN BACK TO YOU BEFORE I TURN TO THE AUDIENCE AGAIN. DANIEL,...
00:27:22 Unidentified Speaker SURE. THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT IN A FOLLOW-UP TO WHAT DAVID WAS SAYING ABOUT THE DOMESTIC...
00:29:44 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL, IS IT POSSIBLE IN YOUR VIEW THAT WE COULD BE REACHING A NEW PHASE IN A FROZEN CONFLICT WHERE...
00:30:07 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I CERTAINLY HOPE IT WON'T COME TO THAT. BUT WE ARE SEEING MOSCOW USING, YOU KNOW, UNFREEZING...
00:30:58 Unidentified Speaker YOU'RE ALWAYS A VERY DISCIPLINED ANALYST WHICH SOMETIMES SHIES AWAY FROM PRESCRIPTION. WHAT DOES...
00:31:15 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK RIGHT NOW BROADLY IT'S SIMPLY TRYING TO INTERNATIONALIZE THE CONFLICT SO TO SPEAK TO...
00:32:11 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL, THANK YOU. CAN WE TAKE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM OUR WASHINGTON AUDIENCE.
00:32:19 Unidentified Speaker I'M MARGIN REL RYAN, I'M WITH CLEAN SKIES TV NEWS. AND I WONDER IF YOU'D GO A LITTLE FURTHER ON AN...
00:32:42 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, YOU WANT TO TRY THAT?
00:32:47 Unidentified Speaker SO LET US RECALL THE EVENTS OF THE LAST MONTHS. APRIL THE 3rd MANY ARE DENIED THE MEMBERSHIP ACTION...
00:36:04 Unidentified Speaker A COLLEAGUE OF OURS, BRIAN WHITMORE IS WORKING ON A PIECE AS WE SPEAK WHICH WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ABOUT...
00:36:29 Unidentified Speaker HOSTILITIES, MINIMALLY IT APPEARS TO BE THE CASE THAT THE RUSSIAN SIDE WAS PREPARING FOR A VERY PROBUST...
00:37:03 Unidentified Speaker YES, YES, YES, I'M HERE.
00:37:08 Unidentified Speaker MARINA, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE HAD KOBA ON THE AIR REPORTING ON THE DEPLOYMENT OF RUSSIAN TANKS...
00:37:31 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, JUST A FEW WORDS. NOTHING NEW. EVERYTHING IS REPEATING EVERY DAY. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW ALREADY...
00:38:48 Unidentified Speaker MARINA, THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE, MARTIN, ANOTHER QUESTION FROM WASHINGTON THAT CAN BE DIRECTED TO DANIEL...
00:39:03 Unidentified Speaker YES, QUESTION IN PRAGUE, MITCHELL, PULLMAN, INDEPENDENT TV AND RADIO PRODUCER. RUSSIAN REPORTS ARE...
00:39:38 Unidentified Speaker UNFORTUNATELY, NOT. UNFORTUNATELY, NOT. NOT YET AT LEAST. FOR SEVERAL DAYS THE RUSSIAN FORCES WERE...
00:40:58 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL KIMMAGE IN WASHINGTON, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S A PRETTY FIERCE...
00:41:25 Unidentified Speaker I MEAN, I THINK THE QUESTION OF NARRATIVE IS KEY IN THE SPECIFIC CASE OF RUSSIA AND GEORGIA. MY SENSE...
00:42:46 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL, WHY SHOULD AMERICANS CARE ABOUT THIS? RUSSIA IS A BIG STATE. IT HAS ENERGY. IT HAS FAIRLY...
00:43:09 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD JUST START BY TURNING THE ARGUMENT -- TURNING THE QUESTION AROUND BECAUSE IT'S A BIG STATE...
00:43:13 Unidentified Speaker QUESTION AROUND BECAUSE IT'S A BIG STATE WITH VAST ENERGY RESOURCES AND A STILL FORMIDABLE MILITARY...
00:43:55 Unidentified Speaker COUNTERPOSED TO WESTERN INTERESTS IN THE FRAMEWORK OF A DEVELOPING CONFRONTATION I THINK IS VITALLY...
00:44:06 Unidentified Speaker CONFLICT MAY SEEM. MARINA, ARE YOU STILL WITH US. YES, I'M STILL HERE. WHAT IS YOUR READ OF THE MOOD...
00:44:09 Unidentified Speaker MARINA, ARE YOU STILL WITH US.
00:44:11 Unidentified Speaker YES, I'M STILL HERE.
00:44:14 Unidentified Speaker WHAT IS YOUR READ OF THE MOOD OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING RADIO LIBERTY LISTENERS IN THE LAST DAYS. HAS...
00:44:47 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, OF COURSE, PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEIR LIVES AND THEY...
00:45:36 Unidentified Speaker THIS WAS THE VERY DAY WHEN EVEN TBILISI WAS WAITING ATTACK AND EVERY REPORTER IS REPORTING AND WE'RE...
00:47:46 Unidentified Speaker MARINA, THANK YOU. MARTIN, LET'S TAKE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM WASHINGTON.
00:47:51 Unidentified Speaker YOU MAY HAVE COVERED THIS EARLIER. I ARRIVED A LITTLE BIT LATE SO I APOLOGIZE IF THIS REPEATS. TO...
00:48:33 Unidentified Speaker BRIDGET, THANK YOU. MARINA, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
00:48:40 Unidentified Speaker NO, NO, NO. PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
00:48:41 Unidentified Speaker I THOUGHT WE COULD GO TO DANIEL FIRST. BRIDGET, THANK YOU. WE THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE EXTRAORDINARY AND...
00:49:07 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT MAINSTREAM TELEVISION COVERAGE IN THE STATES THAT MOST OF IT HAS PREDICTABLY...
00:50:10 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL, THEIR SOLIDARITY -- THE LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF CENTRAL AND EAST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES...
00:50:29 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THAT ACTUALLY REMAINS TO BE SEEN. IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT WILL ACT AS AN DETERRENT AND...
00:51:05 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. MARTIN, LET'S TAKE ANOTHER ONE FROM WASHINGTON, PLEASE.
00:51:19 Unidentified Speaker AL MILLIKIN, INDEPENDENT WRITERS. WAS THERE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE THE INVASION A TIME WITH THE OLYMPICS...
00:51:31 Unidentified Speaker DANIEL, WOULD YOU TAKE THAT, PLEASE? .
00:51:40 Unidentified Speaker I WILL BE HONEST AND SAY WHAT THE GEORGIAN LEADERSHIP WAS THINKING WHEN THEY BEGAN A LARGE MILITARY...
00:52:29 Unidentified Speaker MARINA, CAN I RETURN BACK TO YOU IN TBILISI?
00:52:32 Unidentified Speaker YES, PLEASE.
00:52:34 Unidentified Speaker IN THE TURMOIL AND THE MIDST OF THIS WAR, ARE PEOPLE AT ALL THINKING ABOUT THE OLYMPICS? YOU KNOW,...
00:52:58 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, NOT IN GENERAL NOT. I MEAN, NOT, NOT. GEORGIANS...
00:54:23 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, DAVID.
00:54:24 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY WHEN GEORGIA WON TWO GOLD MEDALS ONE...
00:55:26 Unidentified Speaker WE JUST ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION, AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS SO DISTANT IN HIS ANSWER. HE DIDN'T TOUCH UP...
00:55:52 Unidentified Speaker DAVID, THANK YOU. MARTINS, BACK TO WASHINGTON FOR THE NEXT QUESTIONS.
00:56:02 Unidentified Speaker MY NAME IS NANCY COCHRAN. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANY OF YOU REALLY KIND OF ARTICULATE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE...
00:56:41 Unidentified Speaker IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, I'LL BE HONEST. AND SPEAKING AS AN ANALYST I'LL SAY HERE THAT YOU REALLY HAVE...
00:58:01 Unidentified Speaker WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, I FEAR. WE'LL TAKE ONE QUICK FROM WASHINGTON, PLEASE.
00:58:13 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT HAVE ONE -- ONE MORE QUESTION.
00:58:16 Unidentified Speaker MARGARET FROM CLEAN SKIES AGAIN. GEORGIA HAS BECOME VERY IMPORTANT AS A TRANSIT FOR PIPELINES AND...
00:59:56 Unidentified Speaker LET ME ADD VERY BRIEFLY. YET TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS IS THE ONLY PIPELINE WHICH BYPASSES RUSSIA...
01:00:11 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY DO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES, THE C-SPAN AUDIENCE IN WASHINGTON...
01:00:24 Unidentified Speaker YOUR COLLEAGUES. DAVID HERE AND DANIEL IN WASHINGTON. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
01:00:45 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE...
01:00:48 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] [INAUDIBLE...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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