U.S. Policy Toward Iran

Jul 9, 2008

House Committee Foreign Affairs Senate Committee Foreign Relations

William Burns testified about U.S. policy toward Iran. Among the topics they addressed were the impact of military operations in Iraq on relations with Iran, the status of efforts to impose greater sanctions on the Iranian regime for continued research and development of a nuclear program, and recent reports indicating higher-than-expected .. Read More
William Burns testified about U.S. policy toward Iran. Among the topics they addressed were the impact of military operations in Iraq on relations with Iran, the status of efforts to impose greater sanctions on the Iranian regime for continued research and development of a nuclear program, and recent reports indicating higher-than-expected levels of trade between the U.S. and Iran. The also spoke about the implications of long and intermediate range missile tests that had been conducted by the Iranian military the previous day.

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00:14:39 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator THANK YOU. I JOIN YOU IN WELCOMING OUR FRIEND. BACK TO TEHHE COMMITTEE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY....
00:20:12 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator AGAIN, MR. AMBASSADOR, IT'S A DELIGHT TO HAVE YOU HERE. AS I'VE SAID, YOU HAVE UNIVERSAL RESPECT ON...
00:20:25 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY...
00:20:52 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator THE ENTIRE STATEMENT WILL BE PLACED IN THE RECORD.
00:20:55 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU. FIRST, THE BEHAVIOR OF THE IRANIAN REGIME POSES A SERIOUS SET OF CHALLENGES TO THE INTERNATIONAL...
00:30:11 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary AS WELL AS TO OTHERS IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, WHO MIGHT ALSO HELP DRIVE HOME THE ADVANTAGES...
00:34:23 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator WELL, MR. AMBASSADOR. AT THE RISK OF DAMAGING YOUR CREDIBILITY, YOUR STATEMENT WAS MUSIC, AT LEAST...
00:36:46 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE -- I THINK THERE'S A WEARINESS IN THAT RELATIONSHIP, AT LEAST...
00:37:07 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT AL QAEDA IS PRIMARILY SUNNI. AND THAT IRAN IS OVERWHELMINGLY SHIITE. I FIND...
00:38:45 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE PASSAGE OF THAT LEGISLATION AS IT EXISTS NOW, I THINK, WOULD COMPLICATE THAT...
00:40:16 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator QUITE FRANKLY, I FIND -- I DON'T PRESUME TO SPEAK FOR THE CHAIRMAN, BUT I KNOW HE SHARES THIS VIEW....
00:43:43 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, SENATOR, I THINK THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE DO SHARE THE SAME STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE IN THE SENSE...
00:44:54 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WAS ENCOURAGED BY YOUR STATEMENT IS THAT YOU'RE THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION...
00:46:11 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary SURE, SENATOR. NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE P-5 PLUS 1 INCLUDING THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE ARE STILL...
00:46:48 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator IS IT SUSPENSION FOR SUSPENSION? OR SUSPENSION FOR DISCUSSION?
00:46:51 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, THE SUSPENSION FOR SUSPENSION WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR THE DISCUSSIONS. BUT THAT'S THE BASIS ON...
00:47:05 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY TIME IS UP, SENATOR LUGAR?
00:47:10 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator MR. SECRETARY, FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THAT QUESTION, I SUGGEST IN THE OPENING STATEMENT THE NEED AS...
00:48:02 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary I THINK THE SIGNIFICANCE WAS NOT LOST ON THE IRANIANS, THAT SECRETARY RICE JOINED THE OTHER P-5 PLUS...
00:48:44 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator AND AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE TALKS COULD OCCUR IN THE LATTER PART OF JULY OR IS THERE A SIX-WEEK HIATUS?...
00:48:57 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE HAS YET PINNED DOWN A TIME FOR ANOTHER MEETING WITH HIS IRANIAN COUNTERPART....
00:49:11 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator FOLLOWING THROUGH JUST ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THE SENATOR'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RUSSIANS, IS THERE...
00:49:27 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary I'M NOT SURE, SENATOR, HONESTLY, THE FORMAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN DETERMINED YET. CERTAINLY WHEN...
00:49:54 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator THE REASON I RAISE THE QUESTION AND YOUR EXPERTISE WOULD CERTAINLY BE INSTRUCTIVE HERE IS THAT THIS...
00:51:13 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary YES, SIR, SENATOR, LUGAR. I DO AGREE WITH YOU. THE RUSSIAN ROLE AS FRUSTRATING IT SOMETIMES CAN BE,...
00:53:50 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator I APPRECIATE THAT STATEMENT VERY MUCH. IT WAS A SMALL PIECE OF NEWS THIS PAST WEEK, NOT REALLY COMMENTED...
00:56:59 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, I THINK, SENATOR, THE RECENT -- THE ASSETS FREEZE IN THE BANK, WHICH IS IRAN'S LARGEST COMMERCIAL...
00:58:04 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:58:05 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WITH THE PERMISSION OF OUR WITNESS, I MEAN THAT SINCERELY, WE'RE GOING TO...
00:59:01 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary YES, SIR.
00:59:03 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator WITH THAT, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TURN THE GAVEL OF THE QUESTIONING AND THE GAVEL OVER TO MY FRIEND...
00:59:20 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator
00:59:26 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO THE SENATOR FROM INDIANA, BUT I THINK HE IS GOING TO LEAVE....
00:59:38 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. ALL RIGHT? OKAY? I YIELD TO MY FRIEND.
00:59:48 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator IT WILL BE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE MISSILE LAUNCH TODAY?
00:59:56 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary CENTER, THE MISSILE LAUNCH THAT WE SAW TODAY IS VERY DISTURBING. IT IS PROVOCATIVE AND RECKLESS. THEY...
01:00:10 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator LET ME REFINE MY QUESTION. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TIMING OF THE LAUNCH TODAY?
01:00:20 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary IT IS ALWAYS A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE MOTIVES BEHIND PARTICULAR ACTIONS ON THE...
01:01:00 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary A SUBTLETY HAS NEVER BEEN A HALLMARK OF IRANIAN BEHAVIOR. AND IT'S A WAY, IT SEEMS TO ME, OF REINFORCING...
01:01:15 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator THERE WAS A FORMER FBI AGENT NAMED BOB LIVINGSTON. WHO DISAPPEARED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ON KISH ISLAND....
01:02:27 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary YES, IT CERTAINLY IS, SENATOR. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MRS. LEAVENSON NEXT WEEK AND WE WILL...
01:02:39 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator A LOT OF THIS IS EXTREMELY SENSITIVE INFORMATION. BUT FOR PURPOSE OF THIS OPEN FORUM, IS THERE ANYTHING...
01:02:53 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary SENATOR, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THIS FORMAT THAT I CAN SHARE. BUT I'D BE GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU TO PROVIDE...
01:03:32 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator IF SUCH A NEGOTIATION DOES PROCEED THAT YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND THE RANKING MEMBER,...
01:03:49 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary AS I SAID BEFORE, HUMILITY IS ALWAYS A GOOD STARTING POINT IN TRYING TO DECIPHER THE POLITICAL SYSTEM....
01:04:53 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator IN THIS CASE, WOULD IT NOT BE THE SUPREME LEADER WHO WOULD BE THE DECISION-MAKER?
01:04:57 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary HE CERTAINLY IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKER, IT SEEMS TO ME IN IRAN.
01:05:02 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT. IS HIS INFLUENCE ON THE WANE OR ON THE RISE?
01:05:09 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary IT'S HARD TO CHARACTERIZE IT THAT WAY. HE'S CERTAINLY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT HIS VIEWS. BUT THE REALITY...
01:05:21 Nelson, BillU.S. Senator ALL RIGHT. THE COMMITTEE WILL STAND IN RECESS SUBJECT TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIR. THANK YOU.
01:06:11 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator THE COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. I HAVE MY PAPERS IN ORDER. INSIDE THE BLOOMBERG CERTIFIED AND LEGAL....
01:07:54 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary SENATOR, AS I SAID, OUR POSITION REMAINS THAT SECRETARY RICE HERSELF WILL BE PREPARED TO SIT DOWN...
01:08:45 Unidentified Speaker THAT ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT, WOULD INCLUDE THE CONSIDERATION OF AN AMERICAN THERE WITH ON THE NEXT VISIT?...
01:08:54 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, SIR, AT THIS STAGE OUR POSITION IS JUST THAT SECRETARY RICE HAS OUTLINED IT. AND AS I DESCRIBED...
01:09:09 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator SO THEN I TAKE IT FROM THAT ANSWER THERE'S NOT BEEN SERIOUS DISCUSSION WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT...
01:09:24 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary WELL, SENATOR, OUR POSITION IS JUST AS I DESCRIBED IT.
01:09:28 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator OKAY.
01:09:30 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION AS FAR AS YOU'RE AWARE OF OF A RUSSIAN PRESENCE AT A FOLLOW-UP MEETING...
01:09:42 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary CERTAINLY THE RUSSIANS, MY RUSSIAN COUNTERPART DID TAKE PART IN THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. SILANA MADE...
01:10:10 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator THANK YOU. YOU NOTED IN YOUR TESTIMONY AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ YOUR COMPLETE STATEMENT, AS...
01:13:38 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU, SENATOR. I THINK IN TERMS OF BROAD STRATEGY IN THE REGION, THE FIRST THING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT...
01:16:48 Biden, Joseph "Joe" R. Jr.U.S. Senator MR. AMBASSADOR, I HAVE MANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE IN THE STAFF HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME...
01:18:55 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary I'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT, SIR.
01:18:57 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator MR. CHAIRMAN?
01:18:58 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK A GENERAL QUESTION. AS YOU RETURN THESE RESPONSIBILITIES -- PARDON ME -- ATTEMPTED...
01:21:59 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR, LOUGAR. CERTAINLY IRAN IS NOT NEARLY AS OPAQUE SOCIETY OR A POLITICAL...
01:22:52 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator WELL, I ASK THIS QUESTION -- YOU MENTIONED -- NO DIPLOMATIC PRESENCE FOR 030 YEARS. AND AT THE BEGINNING...
01:26:08 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:26:10 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU.
01:26:11 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR LUGAR. IT'S FALLEN TO ME, I GUESS, SORT OF TO CLOSE THIS OUT, SENATOR...
01:36:14 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR KERRY. ON THE FIRST BROADER STRATEGIC QUESTION, I THINK YOU HAVE VERY...
01:38:15 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator I CAN ONLY AGREE WITH YOU MORE. BUT IT'S SUCH A TRAGEDY THAT WE'RE ONLY GETTING TO THIS IN JULY OF...
01:38:31 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary BUT I WOULD JUST -- ALL I WANTED TO ADD, I'M SORRY. I THINK OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IN PARTICULAR...
01:39:04 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator WELL, WE OBVIOUSLY ALL WISH THAT. I THINK THE SIGNATURE OF THE SECRETARY ON THE P-5 PLUS ONE OFFER...
01:41:14 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator SENATOR KERRY, THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. SECRETARY BURNS, IS WE ALL RECOGNIZE,...
01:45:42 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary OUR GOAL, AGAIN, JUST TO REPEAT, REMAINS VERY CLEAR, AND THAT IS, THROUGH CONCERTED DIPLOMACY TO ENSURE...
01:47:13 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator IF I MAY -- AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. SO, IF THIS IS ACCEPTED, AND MAY WELL BE. I DON'T KNOW...
01:47:55 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator CAN I JUST, BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE GAVEL WITH OUR GOOD RANKING MEMBER. AND...
01:48:04 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator SENATOR 59 FEINGOLD COMING BACK?
01:48:07 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator HE'S NOT.
01:48:08 Kerry, John F.U.S. Senator THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. I APPRECIATE IT.
01:48:18 Burns, William JosephUndersecretary SENATOR HAGEL, ON THE QUESTION OF AMERICAN PARTICIPATION, DIRECT AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT, OUR POSITION...
01:48:55 Hagel, ChuckU.S. Senator THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. MR. CHAIRMAN?
01:48:58 Lugar, Richard "Dick" G.U.S. Senator THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR HAGEL AND ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE, SECRETARY BURNS, WE THANK YOU AGAIN...

NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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