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C-SPAN, CREATED IN 1979 BY AMERICA'S CABLE TELEVISION COMPANIES AS A PUBLIC SERVICE. |
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NOW A HOUSE HEARING ON THE AVAILABILITY OF PHONE AND INTERNET SERVICES IN THE U.S. WITNESSES INCLUDE... |
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GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND THE INTERNET. TODAY WE ARE... |
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GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD A HEARING ON UNIVERSAL... |
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THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN. |
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I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING AND FOR ENCOURAGING US NOT TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN DETAILS... |
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I THANK THE JE GENTLEMAN. |
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE HEARING. I REPRESENT PARTS OF 30 COUNTIES IN DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS.... |
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THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. AND WE NOW TURN AND RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS WE FOCUS ON THE FEDERAL UNIVERSAL SERVICE PROGRAM, I THINK... |
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WE THANK THE GENTLEMAN. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA, MR. TERRY. |
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THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE MR. CHAIRMAN YOU HOLDING AN IMPORTANT HEARING ON UNIVERSAL SERVICE AND HOW... |
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GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. |
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THANK YOU, I'LL BE IN AND OUT TODAY BECAUSE I'LL BE DOWN ON THE FLOOR. BUT I DID WANT TO BE HERE BECAUSE... |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND WISH HIM LUCK. CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, GLAD YOU'RE HOLDING THIS HEARING. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE ISSUES INVOLVING... |
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THANK THE GENTLEMAN. CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THE HEARING ON THE FUTURE OF UNIVERSAL SERVICE.... |
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THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLE LADY FROM NEW MEXICO, MS. WILSON. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I LISTEN TO FOLKS COMMENTING ABOUT THE ACCESS TO TELEPHONE SERVICE IN THEIR... |
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THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY. AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THIS HEARING. IT BEGINS A VALUABLE... |
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THANK YOU. |
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NOW WE TURN AND RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S AN OLD SAYING THAT IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. THE OPPOSITE... |
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GREAT, GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZED MR. HILL. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR FIRST OF ALL HOLDING THIS HEARING AND ALSO TO THE PANEL WITNESSES FOR... |
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GREAT, WE THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THAT. AND ALL TIME FOR OPENING STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS HAS BEEN COMPLETED.... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. WHEN I GOT THE CALL TO COME DOWN ... |
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THANK YOU. OUR SECOND WITNESS, RAY RAMSEY IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF ONE ECONOMY CORPORATION.... |
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CHAIRMAN, AND RANKING MEMBER STERN, AND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO CONGRESSMAN WALL DON, WHO I HAD THE... |
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THANK YOU, MR. RAMSEY VERY MUCH. WE ALL KNOW OUR NEXT WITNESS, THROUGH HIS EPIC STORIES CAPTURED... |
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THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GEORGE LUCAS, AND AS FOUNDER OF THE EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION, I'M PLEASED TO ... |
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MR. LUCAS, COULD YOU -- SUSPEND FOR JUST ONE SECOND, PLEASE. |
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OKAY. THEY ARE INVESTING SUBSTANTIALLY IN INTERNET ACCESS, HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR SCHOOLS AND TRAINING... |
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THANK YOU, MR. LUCAS, VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT WITNESS IS JAMES SMITH PATTERSON WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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COME IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. |
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OKAY. RANKING MEMBER, MR. STERN, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE, I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK... |
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THANK YOU, MR. PATTERSON, VERY MUCH. THERE IS A ROLE CALL ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. THERE IS ONLY FIVE... |
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THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND THE INTERNET IS CALLED TO ORDER ONCE AGAIN. SO THAT... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING AND ALSO CONGRESSMAN, WE HAVE MET... |
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THANK YOU, MR. SULLIVAN. AND THANK YOU TO YOUR WIFE, AS WELL. AND WE DO WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. ABSOLUTELY... |
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WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE FOUNDATION ARE THE FACT THAT USING THE INTERNET... |
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AND CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS CONCEPT OF FREE IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE, WHICH... |
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WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING AHEAD VERY FAST. AND WIRELESS IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. AND... |
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MR. RAMSEY, YOU SAY THAT LOW-INCOME CITIZENS ADOPT BROADBAND AT LOWER INCOMES. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON THE ADOPTION SIDE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STATISTICS AND BEHAVIOR, LOW-INCOME... |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS WORK IN THAT AREA. TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA, I... |
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THE MAJORITY VOTED -- |
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I WAS HOPING THAT WAS THE CASE. AGAIN, WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF TEN-MINUTE RECESS. AND THE FIRST DEMOCRAT... |
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THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND INTERNET IS RECONVENED. WE APOLOGIZE AGAIN TO OUR WITNESSES.... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF UTAH'S GOING TO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. BUT BEFORE I START,... |
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THANK YOU, MR. STEARNS. AND THEN MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY, I DID POINT OUT SOME VERY GOOD FEATURES CONCERN... |
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YOU HEARD MR. LUCAS SAID HE'D RECOMMEND RAISING THE $2.25 BILLION CAP AND EXTENDING IT TO PROVIDE... |
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NO. |
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OKAY. |
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NO FREE LUNCHES. |
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ALL RIGHT, MR. LUCAS, AS I POINTED OUT OR YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FREE BROADBAND... |
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CAN I JUST SAY WHEN YOU -- YOU MEANT THOUSAND NOT MILLION? |
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THOUSAND, I'M SORRY. $248,000, FOR GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, $75,000 FOR BERKELEY HILLS. YES. |
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WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE, MOST EVERYTHING'S GOING TO END UP WIRELESS.... |
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BUT YOU CONSIDER GOING INTO THE HIGH-COST PART WHERE MOST OF US ALL TALK ABOUT NOT ALL OF THE MEMBERS... |
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WELL, I MEAN, THE RAISING THE CAP IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF,... |
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IF I HAD AN ANSWER, I WOULD GIVE YOU, I WOULD SAY THIS IS THE WAY YOU CAN DO THIS. THE SERVICE IS... |
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I'M ASSUMING HE IS ENDORSING THE BILL TODAY. |
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I'M JUST SAYING AS A TAXPAYER, DO IT THE MOST EXPENSIVE WAY POSSIBLE. CUT THE WASTE, AND AS SOMEBODY'S... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON STATE. |
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THANK YOU, MR. SULLIVAN. FIRST I WANTED TO THANK YOU. A CERTAIN GOVERNOR WOULD BE PROUD OF YOUR TESTIMONY... |
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IF I MIGHT, RAY RAMSEY HERE, WITH ONE ECONOMY, WE ARE WORKING ON SEVERAL TRIBAL LANDS IN OREGON, THE... |
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WELL, THAT BRINGS UP KIND OF A BROADER QUESTION TOO. AS WE'VE GONE FORWARD, WE'VE ALWAYS FOCUSSED... |
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I -- IF I MIGHT AND THEN I'LL STOP. I WOULD SAY THAT IN TERMS OF -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DIGITAL DIVIDE,... |
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE MR. MAY CAN GET A COMMENT HERE. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TWO THINGS, AND I THINK MR. RAMSEY HAS ILLUSTRATED THESE. NUMBER ONE ON THE QUESTION... |
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THANK YOU. GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEBRASKA. |
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THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. MAYS, HAVE YOU ALSO READ THE TERRY VOUCHER BILL, AS... |
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LAST YEAR, IT'S BEEN A WHILE. |
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YOU DO REMEMBER IT HAD CAPS IN IT, AS WELL? CAPPING IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE? |
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OKAY. I'LL REMIND YOU OF THAT. THAT ALSO IN THE SIDE OF THE REFORM THAT WE INCLUDE PHONE NUMBERS,... |
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YES, MR. TERRY, I THINK THAT IS OUR GOAL. I WOULD EMPHASIZE AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR BILL GOES AWAYS... |
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WELL, IN ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO STRESS HERE. AND WE COULD GET INTO THIS AT THE NEXT HEARING... |
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MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO MAKE A CLEANER BREAK WITH THE EXISTING REGIME AND THE PAST AND RECOGNIZING... |
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YEAH, I WOULD ADD THAT PROBABLY CONCUR CLOSELY WITH MR. MAY, BUT WITH A HEAVY PREFERENCE ON MORE SUBSIDY... |
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ACTUALLY, I THINK YOUR ANSWER WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH MY STATEMENT MORE. |
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YEAH. |
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IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $1 ON UPGRADING A SYSTEM, IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE BROADBAND IN IT TOO. |
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YES. |
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MR. LUCAS? |
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WELL, OBVIOUSLY BROADBAND IS ESSENTIALLY NOW TO SCHOOLS. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE KEY APPLICATION WE'VE... |
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PATTERSON? |
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I WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE MOVE MORE TOWARDS THE BROADBAND SIDE AND LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY.... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. WE NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLE LADY FROM CALIFORNIA.... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST LET ME COMMEND YOU FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING. WE'VE HELD A LOT OF HEARINGS.... |
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WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE -- THE ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNET AND THE -- IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS JUST COMPLETELY... |
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LET ME ASK OTHER WITNESSES, AS WELL. I REALLY WAS ASKING ABOUT THE CREATIVE POSSIBILITIES FOR STUDENTS.... |
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I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, IF I COULD. I THINK THAT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, IF BROADBAND IS UBIQUITOUS... |
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I WOULD JUST HOPE TEN YEARS FROM NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE GEORGE LUCASES RUNNING AROUND THAT... |
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GENTLE LADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRE EXPIRED. CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLE LADY FROM WYOMING. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS I SIT HERE, I FULLY APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PANEL, BUT I HAVE... |
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THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN. IN MY TESTIMONY, I'M PRETTY SURE WHAT I SAID WAS TO THE GREATEST EXTENT... |
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GENTLE LADY'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. |
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ALSO, A QUESTION TO THE PANEL. |
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THEN WE ASK IN WRITING THAT THAT QUESTION BE ANSWERED BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANKS FOR THE WITNESSES. SORRY THAT OUR SCHEDULE IS SUCH THAT WE'RE COMING... |
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YES, I THINK IT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT APPROACHES DO YOU TAKE TO MAKE... |
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AND THAT'S CORRECT. AND OF COURSE, FROM OUR SIDE WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO FREE LUNCHES FOR ANYTHING.... |
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I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, MR. CONGRESSMAN, THAT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TODAY. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A PLETHORA... |
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THAT'S A GOOD POINT. |
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I AGREE. ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF EDUCATION, BROADBAND IS THE NEW BACKBONE OF THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.... |
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I HAVE YOUNG KIDS SO IT'S AMAZING WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR RESEARCH VERSUS WHAT WE DID GRABBING THE OLD... |
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IT'S HARD TO SIT HERE AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WHEN THERE IS A GENERATION SITTING THERE WRIGHT RIGHT... |
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MS. PATTERSON? |
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YES, AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU WHAT I HOPE EVERYONE IN THE OTHER PANEL WILL TAKE CENTRAL TO WHAT I'M... |
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AND MR. SULLIVAN? |
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WELL, LET ME SAY THAT CONGRESSMAN, THAT, OF COURSE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TELEPHONE ISSUE WITH... |
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THANK YOU, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE -- I'VE BEEN A JOHNNY ONE NOTE ON ENERGY FOR SOMETIME. BUT WITH... |
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THERE ARE MANY STUDIES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M SORRY THAT SHOW THAT TELEMEDICINE BRINGS TREMENDOUS EFFICIENCIES... |
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IF THEY HAVE RETIRED IN RURAL AMERICA AND THEY HAVE A VA HOSPITAL LIKE JOHN COCHRAN IN ST. LOUIS OR... |
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THANK YOU, GENTLEMAN. AND I'M AN 81 NOTE ON ENERGY ISSUES, TAKING THE OPPOSITION POSITION OF THE JOHNNY... |
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CONGRESSMAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WIRELESS OPENS AUDIOTAPE LOT OF POSSIBILITIES. YOU'VE ALWAYS... |
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MR. LUCAS, IN TERMS OF THE WIRELESS FUTURE, CAN WE JUST SORT OF LEAPFROG FROM WHERE WE ARE WITH USF?... |
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I WORK ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND IT'S AN INTERESTING CON NONE DRUM IN THE UNITED STATES IN WYOMING WE... |
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AND IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EMBEDDED COST STRUCTURE WITH A WIRED SYSTEM. AND SO YOU HAVE SORT... |
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WELL, A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN AFRICA USING LITTLE CELL PHONES TO DO THEIR SCHOOL WORK AND THEY'RE GETTING... |
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NOT DURING THE TEST, NOW. |
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YEAH. BUT IT'S -- YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT WIRELESS IS THAT ULTIMATELY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF... |
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RIGHT. |
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AND YOU CAN HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF THOSE. SOME THAT ARE EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE AND YOU CAN GIVE AWAY.... |
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WHEELER COUNTY GOING TO GET THE FIRST CELL SERVICE. THE GUY USED TO RUN THE ELECTRIC CO-OP TOLD ME... |
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FAR BE IT FOR ME TO DISAGREE WITH MR. LUCAS, BUT I DO FEEL THAT TECHNOLOGY THAT WIRELESS IS APPROPRIATE.... |
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GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRED. |
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LET ME NOTE RIGHT NOW THAT MR. PICKERING, IF NO ONE ELSE RISES TO BE THE FINAL QUESTIONER, I'LL ASK... |
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THANK YOU. |
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I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE THE VERY IMPORTANT HEARING. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A FEW THINGS IN CONTEXT. IN... |
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I WOULD ONLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO REVERSE AUCTIONS AND HAVE SUBSIDIES IN SOME AREAS AND SOME AREAS... |
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THERE'S NO WAY IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE DON'T HAVE SERVICE. REMEMBER, WE'RE UNIVERSAL. EVERY MARKET,... |
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THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE WAY YOU STATED IT, MR. PICKERING, IS IT'S SOMEWHAT OF THE SAME MIND WHEN... |
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LET ME SAY THIS -- I AGREE WITH YOU. IT SHOULD BE TECHNOLOGY NEUTRAL. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S FAIRLY... |
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. WITHOUT OBJECTION, I MOVE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD THE FOLLOWING -- THE... |
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THANK YOU, MR. MARKIE. THANKS FOR HOLDING THE HEARING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. RAMSEY. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE. THE KEY PRINCIPLE FOR ME IS AS WE LIVE IN THE 21st CENTURY TO REFORM ... |
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I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, MR. RAMSEY AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM.... |
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MR. LUCAS? |
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I THINK I'M GOING TO MOVE TO MISSISSIPPI BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA ABOUT THINGS. BUT... |
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ABRAHAM LINCOLN WOULD NOT HAVE WON THE CIVIL WAR WITHOUT THE TELEGRAPH. TECHNOLOGY IS IMPORTANT. ... |
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THANK YOU, MS. PATTERSON. JUST WAIT TEN SECONDS. |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, PHONE COMMUNICATION -- |
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JUST -- |
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YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, MR. SULLIVAN. |
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THE MOST IMPORTANT MEANS OF KEEPING PEOPLE IN PRISON TOGETHER WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT RESID VATING.... |
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THANK YOU, MR. SULLIVAN, FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE THANK EACH OF YOU. WE CAN LOOK BACK NOW AT THE 1996... |
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