Democratic Rules & Bylaws Committee Meeting

May 31, 2008

Democratic National Committee | Rules and Bylaws Committee

The Democratic National Committee Rules and Bylaws Committee considered two separate challenges concerning the seating of delegations from Florida and Michigan at the national convention in Denver. Formal presentations were heard from the challengers and representatives of the Florida and Michigan state Democratic parties and the presidential .. Read More
The Democratic National Committee Rules and Bylaws Committee considered two separate challenges concerning the seating of delegations from Florida and Michigan at the national convention in Denver. Formal presentations were heard from the challengers and representatives of the Florida and Michigan state Democratic parties and the presidential campaigns of Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The committee then broke for an extended lunch, after which they heard motions on the challenges and remedies to provide representation by delegations at the convention. The committee voted to seat the full delegations of both Michigan and Florida with each delegate casting one half vote. The vote on a remedy for counting votes from the Florida delegation was unanimous in favor of the compromise. The vote on the remedy for Michigan was passed on a vote of 19 to eight, and Mr. Ickes indicated that the Clinton campaign reserved the right to appeal the decision to the credentials committee. Proceedings of the meeting were interrupted several times by boisterous demonstrations from members of the audience.

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00:00:00 Unidentified Speaker C-SPAN, CREATED BY PUBLIC SERVICE BY AMERICAN CABLE COMPANIES.
00:00:07 Unidentified Speaker MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE MET TO DETERMINE THE FATE OF THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN...
00:00:51 Unidentified Speaker GOOD MORNING. COMMITTEE MEETING. I DARE SAY AS I GAZE ABOUT THIS ROOM THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST...
00:02:00 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, SECRETARY HERMAN. I'D LIKE TO JOIN IN THE SENT AMS YOU JUST EXPRESSED, AND INDEED, INVITE...
00:02:40 Unidentified Speaker PRESENT.
00:02:44 Unidentified Speaker JAMES ROOSEVELT, PRESENT. DONNA BRAZZIL.
00:02:48 Unidentified Speaker MARK BREWER. MARTHA FULLER CLARK. RALPH DAWSON. CAROL FOWLER. CAROL FOWLER. WE'LL COME BACK TO HER....
00:03:27 Unidentified Speaker PRESENT.
00:03:28 Unidentified Speaker ALICE HUFFMAN.
00:03:30 Unidentified Speaker PRESENT.
00:03:32 Unidentified Speaker THOMAS HINES. HAROLD ICKES. BEN JOHNSON. HE LANE KAYMARK. ALAN KATZ. ERIC KLINEFELD. DAVID MCDONALD,...
00:04:25 Unidentified Speaker HERE.
00:04:26 Unidentified Speaker JEROME WILEY.
00:04:27 Unidentified Speaker HERE.
00:04:31 Unidentified Speaker AND LET ME RETURN, CAROL FOWLER. WE DEFINITELY HAVE A QUORUM. I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE STAFF...
00:05:22 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL NOW STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
00:05:30 Unidentified Speaker I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS,...
00:05:56 Unidentified Speaker BEFORE WE MOVE ON, SECRETARY HERMAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR...
00:06:57 Unidentified Speaker JIM, LET ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND ALEXIS, FOR YOUR EXTRAORDINARY HARD WORK. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY...
00:20:08 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, GOVERNOR DEAN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE. THANK...
00:22:21 Unidentified Speaker AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND THIS TABLE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. WE FIRST REALLY BEGIN...
00:31:34 Unidentified Speaker I WILL BEGIN WITH SETTING THE BACKGROUND WITH RESPECT TO THE FLORIDA CHALLENGE. WE WILL THEN PROCEED...
00:37:21 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL START WITH THE CHALLENGE CONCERNING FLORIDA. WE WOULD ASK MR. OSMOND TO PLEASE TAKE HIS SEAT....
00:39:09 Unidentified Speaker POINT OF INFORMATION.
00:39:10 Unidentified Speaker POINT OF INFORMATION.
00:39:15 Unidentified Speaker MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BOTH THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAVE INTERVENED IN THIS CHALLENGE....
00:39:23 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS CORRECT. BOTH HAVE INTERVENED IN THIS CHALLENGE. AFTER MR. OSMAN, WE WILL CERTAINLY HEAR FROM...
00:40:14 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO COME HERE AND TO LISTEN TO...
00:55:52 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR AT THE THRESHOLD. IF YOU COULD ATTEMPT -- WE WILL GRANT YOU AN ADDITIONAL...
00:55:58 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. IT STATES THAT THE DNC RULES AND BYLAWS COMMITTEE CAN IMPOSE ADDITIONAL PENALTIES INCLUDING...
00:59:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN FOR THE NEXT FEW MOMENTS QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS...
00:59:44 Unidentified Speaker WHEN I READ RULE 20C, I DO NOT SEE THE LANGUAGE THAT THE PENALTY IS NOT PERMITTED TO SERVE AS DELEGATES....
01:01:13 Unidentified Speaker DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE EFFECT OF YOUR CHALLENGE WOULD BE TO UPGRADE THE VOTES OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO...
01:01:29 Unidentified Speaker IT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS APPEAL. I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS. FLORIDA DELEGATES...
01:01:49 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO ASSERT CATEGORICALLY THAT MR. OSMOND'S INTERPRETATION OF THE LANGUAGE CREATING...
01:02:58 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
01:03:02 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU HERE. I FIGURED IT LI'S I NEEDED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION OR TWO....
01:04:41 Unidentified Speaker CERTAINLY. BEFORE I GET THAT, I WANT TO GO BACK TO DON. I AM RESPECTFUL OF THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY,...
01:08:11 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR IT WILL ENTERTAIN ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER....
01:08:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE THOROUGHNESS OF YOUR REVIEW OF THE RULES. I WOULD LIKE...
01:09:36 Unidentified Speaker IT IS MANDATORY. SHALL PERMIT IS DISCRETIONARY. YOU DO HAVE A DEGREE OF DISCRETION. THE QUESTION...
01:11:20 Unidentified Speaker WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VERY THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION. I THANK YOU FOR MORE THAN...
01:11:32 Unidentified Speaker IF YOU COULD GIVE ME ONE MINUTE OR TWO TO CLEAR OFF THE TABLE FOR
01:11:42 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @
01:14:15 Unidentified Speaker THE STATE PARTIES, AS LISTED INITIALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO INTERVENE IN THESE FOR A FEE -- IN THESE...
01:14:39 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. SECRETARY HERMAN, CHAIRMAN ROOSEVELT, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, NEEDLESS TO SAY, I AM ...
01:25:49 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, SENATOR NELSON. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD TO SAY. ARE THERE QUESTIONS FROM THE...
01:25:57 Unidentified Speaker SORRY. MR. CHAIRMAN?
01:26:04 Unidentified Speaker IS THERE A POINT OF
01:26:05 Unidentified Speaker NO. IT'S A QUESTION.
01:26:09 Unidentified Speaker I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SENATOR NELSON. YOUR SERVICE, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT...
01:27:20 Unidentified Speaker MS. GRIFFIN, I DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR ARGUMENT. I WOULD PERHAPS AGREE WITH YOUR ARGUMENT IF WE HAD...
01:28:21 Unidentified Speaker DAVID MACDONALD, NEXT QUESTION.
01:28:23 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR COMING, SENATOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF FACTUAL QUESTIONS. THE MATERIAL SUBMITTED, YOU ...
01:28:57 Unidentified Speaker AND A GUITAR, THAT IS NOT.
01:29:03 Unidentified Speaker NO DEMOCRATIC PROFESSIONAL EVER VOTED IN FAVOR OF THAT?
01:29:06 Unidentified Speaker I WAS NOT GOING TO REHASH THIS IN THE INTERESTED PARTY UNITY, BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION,...
01:31:48 Unidentified Speaker IS I DO NOT WANT TO BE ADVERSARIAL, I DO NOT INTEND THAT. I SIMPLY WANTED TO ESTABLISH A FACT. THE...
01:33:03 Unidentified Speaker NO, SIR. WE CAME HERE, I CAME HERE IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITY TRYING TO BRING US TOGETHER. I DID NOT...
01:35:38 Unidentified Speaker THINK YOU FOR THE EFFORT, THAT WAS MY INTENT IN ASKING THE QUESTION.
01:35:43 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE TIME FOR TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
01:35:58 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. BRINGING US BACK INTO DE'S PROCEEDINGS FROM YESTERDAY OF PROCEEDINGS, I...
01:36:15 Unidentified Speaker YES, I DO.
01:36:19 Unidentified Speaker AND THE FINAL QUESTION IS FROM ALICE HUDSON.
01:36:23 Unidentified Speaker I BELIEVE THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
01:36:27 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR,
01:36:28 Unidentified Speaker [APPLAUSE]
01:36:52 Unidentified Speaker LET ME ADD MY THANKS TO CHAIRMAN ROOSEVELT FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND NOW IT IS MY REAL PLEASURE TO...
01:37:27 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY....
01:53:06 Unidentified Speaker JUST ONE MORE MINUTE.
01:53:07 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. AMERICA'S PROMISE TO HER STATES AND HER CITIZENS IS EMBODIED IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION,...
01:55:04 Unidentified Speaker I THINK YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RESPONSE FROM THE ROOM, SENATOR THAT YOUR REMARKS WERE WELL-RECEIVED...
01:56:42 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY. [APPLAUSE]
01:56:51 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY, I'M SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE DOUBLED THE NUMBER.
01:57:02 Unidentified Speaker WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH THESE QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
01:57:05 Unidentified Speaker VERY GOOD. YVONNE GATES?
01:57:09 Unidentified Speaker JUST ONE QUESTION TO SENATOR JOYNER. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND YOUR COMMENTS VERY -- WERE VERY...
01:57:37 Unidentified Speaker I'VE BEEN TAUGHT THAT WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU ASK FOR WHAT YOU WANT. IN LIFE YOU DON'T GET EVERYTHING...
01:57:55 Unidentified Speaker SO YOUR REQUEST IS FOR A FULL VOTE AS OPPOSED TO THE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL BY MR. AUSMAN?
01:58:04 Unidentified Speaker YES, I'M ASKING FOR A FULL VOTE.
01:58:12 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY -- [APPLAUSE]
01:58:25 Unidentified Speaker LOOK, IT'S ALMOST NOON. I'M FINALLY GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, SO GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU. FIRST OF...
02:01:22 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE KNOW THAT THE FLORIDA DELEGATION IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE. OUR CHAIR, KAREN THURMAN IS A STONE'S...
02:02:20 Unidentified Speaker THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ROUTE
02:02:22 Unidentified Speaker THE .
02:02:26 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, SENATOR. LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO LISTEN TO YOU. GETTING TO A PARTICULAR...
02:02:55 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY. EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT. IT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL HALLMARK OF DEMOCRACY, THE RIGHT TO VOTE....
02:03:23 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR ELEGANCE AND DETERMINATION HAVE MOVED THE ROOM. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH...
02:03:48 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION QUESTION FROM DON.
02:03:52 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CHAIR, THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM FLORIDA RESPONDED TO A QUESTION ABOUT HIS ENDORSEMENT AND SUPPORT...
02:04:17 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY.
02:04:19 Unidentified Speaker HE WAS ASKING --
02:04:21 Unidentified Speaker OH, SENATOR --
02:04:24 Unidentified Speaker ALL RIGHT, THE FINAL --
02:04:27 Unidentified Speaker YOU RESPONDED TO A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR SUPPORT OF JOHN OSMOND'S --
02:04:33 Unidentified Speaker DON, THIS IS OUT OF ORDER. YOU'RE ASKING ANOTHER QUESTION BEYOND THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
02:04:38 Unidentified Speaker IT'S A ONE --
02:04:40 Unidentified Speaker IT'S ONE QUESTION, I KNOW. BUT IT'S OUT OF ORDER. THE FINAL INTERVENER WITH REGARD TO MR. OSMOND'S...
02:05:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOVERNOR DEAN, MS. HERMAN, MR. ROOSEVELT, COMMITTEE MEMBERS,...
02:14:11 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE DO AS THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING AND SHOW RESPECT TO ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS HERE TODAY. CONGRESSMAN?...
02:14:18 Unidentified Speaker SENATOR OBAMA OFFERS THIS CONCESSION IN ORDER TO PROMOTE RECOGNIZE SILLINGS WITH FLORIDA'S VOTERS....
02:16:37 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU
02:16:38 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMPASSIONED PRESENTATION AS WELL. WE DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS....
02:16:47 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND WOW, YOU FLORIDA ELECTED OFFICIALS JUST TAKE MY BREATH AWAY. THIS HAS...
02:16:56 Unidentified Speaker LET US GO TO THE CONVENTION.
02:16:58 Unidentified Speaker I'M WORKING ON THAT.
02:17:00 Unidentified Speaker SOUNDS LIKE A SONG, ALICE. I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SEE THE FLORIDA DELEGATION SEATED IN SOME FORM AND...
02:20:10 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. PLEASE UNDERSTAND I REPRESENT A CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHERE MANY PEOPLE...
02:22:20 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. AS THE GRANDSON OF THE PERSON WHO COINED THE PHRASE "THE HAPPY WARRIOR" WHEN...
02:22:42 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND THEN I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, OR QUESTION...
02:23:00 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. WE ARE HERE ARGUING FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DELEGATES THAT YOUR RULES...
02:24:06 Unidentified Speaker SO YOU WOULD NOT OPPOSE FULL VOTES, FULL DELEGATION. WOULD YOU OPPOSE IT?
02:24:13 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION IN THIS SENSE --
02:24:17 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T UNDERSTAND --
02:24:24 Unidentified Speaker THE ISSUE IS HOW DO WE BECOME UNIFIED IN YOU HAVE AN AUSMAN PETITION BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE. THE AUSMAN...
02:24:52 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANSWER. AND ONE FAMILIAR FILED POINT?
02:24:58 Unidentified Speaker YES.
02:25:01 Unidentified Speaker IN YOUR PRESENTATION, CONGRESSMAN YOU REFERRED TO THE D.N.C. STAFF OR D.N.C. SAYING THAT THE CANDIDATES...
02:25:52 Unidentified Speaker YOU'RE READING IT CORRECTLY, YES.
02:25:54 Unidentified Speaker SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COUCH PARTICIPATED IN THE SLATING PROCESS OR YOU COULD HAVE CHOSEN NOT TOO?...
02:26:00 Unidentified Speaker YES.
02:26:02 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
02:26:06 Unidentified Speaker I THINK CONGRESSMAN WEXLER HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT STATEMENT.
02:26:10 Unidentified Speaker THE RULES COMMITTEE INFORMED THE CANDIDATES IN WRITING THAT THE DELEGATE SLATING AND CANDIDATE APPROVAL...
02:26:50 Unidentified Speaker EXCUSE ME, I JUST -- I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT BUT I REALLY WANT US TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE AN...
02:27:02 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED. IMAGE WHEN WE GET TO OUR ARGUMENT THIS AFTERNOON WE CAN COME...
02:27:15 Unidentified Speaker CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSIONATE PRESENTATION. BEFORE ASKING MY QUESTION, I THOUGHT IT USEFUL...
02:28:19 Unidentified Speaker AT THE TIME THAT SORT OF VOTED IN MARCH, SENATOR KERREY WAS EFFECTIVELY THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. THERE...
02:30:00 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU HAVE A BRIEF FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?
02:30:02 Unidentified Speaker YES, CONGRESSMAN. I GATHER THAT YOU DO AGREE WITH THE KONG SH -- THE CONCEPT OF FAIR REFLECTION UNDER...
02:30:11 Unidentified Speaker THE CONCEPT OF FAIR REFLECTION? YOU WILL HAVE TO EDUCATE ME ON WHAT THE CONCEPT OF FAIR REFLECTION...
02:30:32 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL TURN TO RALPH DAWSON FOR THE QUESTION. HE CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK FURTHER.
02:30:40 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. IN THE OFFER TO SUPPORT A PLAN...
02:32:18 Unidentified Speaker FOUGHT WILL ADJUST ITS PLAN FOR OUR AUDIENCE THAT IN THE RULES LANGUAGE, IT MEANS CANDIDATE RIGHT...
02:32:34 Unidentified Speaker I UNDERSTOOD THE CONGRESSMAN TO SAY THAT THIS IS THEIR INTENT CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
02:32:40 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AS WELL. " THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
02:32:47 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THE DISTINGUISHED PANEL FROM FLORIDA. I HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED TODAY. I HAVE...
02:33:42 Unidentified Speaker RESPECTFULLY, I WISH YOU HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION LAST YEAR. THIS COMMITTEE -- IF I UNDERSTAND THE...
02:34:49 Unidentified Speaker A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
02:34:57 Unidentified Speaker CONGRESSMEN, YOU ARE VERY ELOQUENT. I WAS HOPING THAT YOU WOULD TRULY ANSWER MY QUESTION BECAUSE...
02:36:18 Unidentified Speaker LET US ALLOW HIM TO ANSWER.
02:36:22 Unidentified Speaker UNDERSTAND THAT THE PETITION IS BASED ON THE VOTES THAT WERE CAST. THE DIVISION OF DELEGATES IS BASED...
02:38:17 Unidentified Speaker ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY GOOD FRIEND FOR COMING IN FOR BEING AS ELOQUENT...
02:38:56 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, WE WILL CITE THAT -- WILL -- WE WILL SAVE THAT FOR ARGUMENT LATER ON.
02:39:03 Unidentified Speaker HANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]
02:39:27 Unidentified Speaker WE WANT TO AGAIN THANK ALL OF THE PETITIONERS, THE SPEAKERS FROM FLORIDA WHO HAVE COME BEFORE THE...
02:41:27 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE TAKE ANY CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE.
02:41:49 Unidentified Speaker IN THE SPRING OF 2007, THE MICHIGAN STATE PARTY DRAFTED A DELICATE -- A DELEGATE SELECTION PLAN AND...
02:46:31 Unidentified Speaker I WILL LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT THAT IN THIS CASE, THE CHALLENGER IS THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THEREFORE...
02:46:51 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE FROM MICHIGAN WHO ARE HERE WITH ME TODAY. SENATOR...
02:58:52 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BREWER. THE FIRST QUESTION WILL BE FROM TINA FLED FLENOY.
02:59:09 Unidentified Speaker I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT I ACTUALLY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE I COULD NOT DO MATH. IF I AM HEARING...
02:59:34 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS SOMETHING OF A FIRST IMPRESSION FOR ME. WE WOULD SAY THAT THE VOTES THAT WERE CAST IN THE...
03:00:02 Unidentified Speaker BECAUSE YOU HAD FOR WHATEVER REASON AND INCOMPLETE BALLOT, WHICH DID NOT GIVE US A TRUE PICTURE OF...
03:00:14 Unidentified Speaker DID YOU ALSO HAVE A QUESTION?
03:00:18 Unidentified Speaker MAYBE SHE IS GOING TO GET TO THIS.
03:00:29 Unidentified Speaker I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I FOLLOW SOME OF THIS. HOW MANY VOTES WERE ACTUALLY COUNTED IN THE MICHIGAN...
03:00:40 Unidentified Speaker APPROXIMATELY 594,000 VOTES AND THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
03:00:46 Unidentified Speaker OTHER 30,000 WERE SIMPLY NOT COUNTED?
03:00:47 Unidentified Speaker CORRECT. WATCH WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WHO -- WITH A VOTED FOR, CAN YOU THINK IT REASONABLE...
03:00:58 Unidentified Speaker YES.
03:00:59 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
03:01:08 Unidentified Speaker WHAT I AM CONFUSED ABOUT AND WHAT YOU DID IN MICHIGAN IS IS FAIRLY CLEAR IN THE RULES THAT UNCOMMITTED...
03:03:33 Unidentified Speaker I THINK WE FIND OURSELVES IN A VERY EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION. THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL SITUATION WHERE...
03:04:15 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONERS LISTED SO FAR. I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A BRIEF QUESTIONS AND BRIEF ANSWERS....
03:04:28 Unidentified Speaker I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. I MUST SAY THAT I FEEL A LITTLE BIT...
03:05:20 Unidentified Speaker ON THE EXIT POLLING DATA, IT IS USED PRINCIPALLY TO AWARD OR ALLOCATE IN OUR VIEW THE UNCOMMITTED...
03:05:45 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS REMEMBERING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE -- WE LOOK AT IT...
03:07:05 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THERE. I BELIEVE HAVE THE BALLOT IN COMPLETE EVEN WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING,...
03:07:31 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. AS WITH THIS MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS CHALLENGE IS SAYING WITH RESPECT...
03:09:04 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT THINK THE RULE APPLIES HERE BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE A CAUCUS, CONVENTION, OR PRIMARY THAT...
03:09:33 Unidentified Speaker ARE YOU RELYING ON ANY RULE?
03:09:35 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN THIS SITUATION TO MAKE AN ALLOCATION. WE CANNOT SIMPLY DO NOTHING. I HAVE...
03:10:00 Unidentified Speaker I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE FURTHER FACTS IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOUR CANDIDATES...
03:11:18 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT OF FACT. MY CONCERN IS NOT ABOUT THE CANDIDATE. MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE...
03:11:35 Unidentified Speaker THIS ROUTE WILL BE F
03:11:40 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MARK, SEVERAL CONNECTIVE QUESTIONS, ON THE BALLOT THAT DAY, WHAT OTHER OFFICES...
03:11:58 Unidentified Speaker THERE WERE OTHER ELECTIONS THAT DAY. THERE WERE SOME LOCAL ELECTIONS WHICH THEY TRADITIONALLY WOULD...
03:12:26 Unidentified Speaker BUT THERE WERE SOME LOCAL ELECTIONS?
03:12:27 Unidentified Speaker YES.
03:12:32 Unidentified Speaker YOU TALKED ABOUT -- I WANT TO GO BACK TO DON FOWLER'S QUESTION AND TO ELLEN CAT'S PAWS REFERENCE TO...
03:16:55 Unidentified Speaker THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IN RESPONSE AT THAT TO THAT, WE'VE USED EXIT POLLS IN THIS COMMITTEE...
03:17:20 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU CHAIRMAN BREWER FOR A VERY CLEAR AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
03:17:30 Unidentified Speaker LET ME ADD MY THANKS AS WELL. CHAIRMAN BREWER, WE'RE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT SPEAKER TO TAKE THE PODIUM...
03:18:18 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE COMMENTS. MEMBERS OF THE RULES AND BILAWS COMMITTEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH...
03:26:51 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS A VERY MINOR CHANGE, BUT VERY MAJOR IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION OF THIS PARTY TO OPEN UP THIS...
03:35:04 Unidentified Speaker . WE HAVE SEVERAL HANDS UP AND WE HAVE SOME HANDS FROM THE LAST ROUND THAT WE PROMISED WOULD HAVE...
03:35:28 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. SENATOR, I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN THE SENATE AND YOU HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION FOR...
03:37:51 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. COULD I COMMENT ON THAT?
03:37:54 Unidentified Speaker YES, SENATOR.
03:37:57 Unidentified Speaker I FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID BUT I WANTED TO SAY I VOTED FOR IT. I WAS ON THAT COMMISSION WHICH...
03:39:04 Unidentified Speaker ALICE.
03:39:05 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THANK THE ENTIRE WORKING GROUP. I KNOW...
03:42:35 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. WHAT THE CLINTON PEOPLE ARGUED WAS THAT WE OUGHT TO DIVIDE THE 128 DELEGATES, 73-55 WHICH...
03:43:39 Unidentified Speaker OR YOU COULD TAKE 100% REFLECTION OF THE VOTE, WHICH THE CLINTON PEOPLE WANT TO DO, AND IGNORE THE...
03:45:11 Unidentified Speaker THE NEXT SPEAKER, MIKE STEAD, THAT WAS WAITING FROM THE FIRST ROUND. AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF WE...
03:45:25 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND TRYING TO ENSHURURE GREATER PARITY IF YOU...
03:45:52 Unidentified Speaker I WON'T ASK IF THERE IS A SECOND TO THAT.
03:45:56 Unidentified Speaker AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENCE THAT WE SET HERE. AND THERE ARE TWO THAT I HAVE IN MIND. ...
03:47:51 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE HIT A COMPROMISING POSITION OF THESE DELEGATES AND THAT'S WHAT THE DISTRICT CONVENTIONS USED,...
03:49:19 Unidentified Speaker AND THE LAST SPEAKER OF THIS ROUND, AND WE ARE OVER ROUNDS WITH MR. LEVIN, AND MR. RICKIES.
03:49:29 Unidentified Speaker SENATOR LEVIN, THERE ARE FEW PEOPLE I ADMIRE IN PUBLIC LIFE THAN YOU, AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS YOUR...
03:55:13 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
03:55:15 Unidentified Speaker I WANTED TO ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION.
03:55:19 Unidentified Speaker WE REALLY ARE OUT OF TIME.
03:55:21 Unidentified Speaker YOU MENTIONED; YOU MENTIONED IN PASSING, I THINK A FEW MOMENTS AGO OF GOING TO CREDENTIAL COMMITTEE,...
03:55:32 Unidentified Speaker LET ME SEE IF I CAN REMEMBER YOUR FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD QUESTION, SO. HOW DO YOU HAVE, YOU ARE ...
03:58:35 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
03:58:39 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CHAIR, I ASK A SECOND QUESTION, YOU MADE A PASSING REFERENCE ABOUT CREDENTIAL COMMITTEE, AND...
03:58:48 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING, IF YOU ARE UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO REACH A CONCLUSION ON THE PROPORTION ISSUE,...
03:59:18 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU SENATOR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND LEADERSHIP. [APPLAUSE] WE THANK THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO...
04:00:08 Unidentified Speaker THIRD THANK YOU. FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. I AM DAVID BOWN FROM MICHIGAN AND FORMER HOUSE OF...
04:15:11 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO BACK TO LIZ SMITH.
04:15:27 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, ACTUALLY MY QUESTION WAS AIMED AT SENATOR LEVIN, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY WELCOME, AND IT'S...
04:15:38 Unidentified Speaker NICE TO SEE YOU LIZ.
04:15:41 Unidentified Speaker I AM REALLY CONCERNED, AND WE CALL MICHIGAN A FLAWED PRIMARY, AND I ASSUME BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE...
04:17:37 Unidentified Speaker I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW ALL YOU SMART GUYS, AND DEBBIE, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE OUT DEBBIE, AND...
04:18:38 Unidentified Speaker WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR YEARS OF HARD WORK FOR THE PARTY, AND IT'S BEEN...
04:20:57 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MRS. RALLY.
04:21:00 Unidentified Speaker CONGRESSMAN, I AM TROUBLED BY THE MICHIGAN SITUATION AND DIFFERENT TO ME THAN FLORIDA. AND I LOOK...
04:22:59 Unidentified Speaker AND AS I SAID IN MY TESTIMONY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RESPECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTER, THOSE...
04:24:28 Unidentified Speaker CONGRESSMAN, AND I AGREE WITH MOST YOU SAID, AND THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE UNKNOWN. AND YOU ARE RIGHT,...
04:25:39 Unidentified Speaker OKAY, WE HAVE, I AM GOING TO RECOGNIZE TWO MORE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ROUND, BECAUSE THEIR HANDS HAVE...
04:25:52 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION CONGRESSMAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT MICHIGAN IS IN THE MIDST...
04:26:37 Unidentified Speaker AND THERE ARE MEETINGS AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING SINCE THE JANUARY 15TH DATE AND EVENT. AND SO...
04:27:45 Unidentified Speaker MRS. LANOY.
04:27:47 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, I HAVE A QUESTION AND A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. AND CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU, AND NICE TO...
04:28:15 Unidentified Speaker MARK CAN HELP YOU RIGHT THERE.
04:28:21 Unidentified Speaker WE USED THE 73-55 BUT DID IT IN A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE 69-59 FORMULA, I.E., ENCOURAGED AND WORKED...
04:28:48 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, AND THE JANUARY PRIMARY HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED AND USED IN YOUR SLATING. AND THE OTHER POINT,...
04:29:53 Unidentified Speaker UNLESS THERE IS A POINT OF INFORMATION, THAT MR. SHEA WANTS TO RAISE, I HAVE MR. FILER AND MR. RICKIES...
04:30:13 Unidentified Speaker YES THIS IS A POINT OF INFORMATION, AND CAN WE MOVE THIS PROCESS WITH QUESTIONS, RATHER THAN COMMENTS....
04:30:19 Unidentified Speaker YES.
04:30:21 Unidentified Speaker ABSOLUTELY AGREE. [APPLAUSE]
04:30:28 Unidentified Speaker POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MR. SHEA.
04:30:31 Unidentified Speaker YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND I AM GARY SHEA, AND FROM THE CALIFORNIA PARTY, AND I AM IN FAVOR OF RESTORING...
04:30:58 Unidentified Speaker WE SUPPORT OF SEATING THE DELEGATIONS IN FULL. AND THAT'S A DECISION THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL HAVE...
04:31:18 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU SENATOR AND CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS. [APPLAUSE]
04:31:30 Unidentified Speaker NOW THE TURN OF THE CAMPAIGN OF SENATOR CLINTON TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO...
04:31:57 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, AN MADAM SECRETARY CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE AND TO ALL THE MEMBERS....
04:33:38 Unidentified Speaker AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL.
04:33:42 Unidentified Speaker AND SO IS THE WORLD. YOU KNOW ON BEHALF OF SENATOR CLINTON AND GOVERNOR GREMHOME AND WE URGE TO MAKE...
04:43:49 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH GOVERNOR. AND WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE INDICATED THEY HAVE QUESTIONS,...
04:44:00 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I WONDERED,...
04:44:20 Unidentified Speaker WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY PROPOSAL, BUT WE SUPPORT THE 73-55. SPEAKING AS JIM...
04:44:54 Unidentified Speaker BUT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PRIMARY BEING FLAWED.
04:44:58 Unidentified Speaker NO.
04:45:01 Unidentified Speaker YOU THINK IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE PRIMARY THAT TRULY REFLECTS THE PREFERENCE OF THE VOTERS OF MICHIGAN?...
04:45:08 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THAT IT REFLECTED THE VOTERS AT THAT TIME. I THINK THAT MOST OF THE UNCOMMITTED WERE FOR OBAMA...
04:46:25 Unidentified Speaker JUST TO FINISH THE FIRST POINT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE UNITY IN MICHIGAN THAT SENATOR...
04:46:39 Unidentified Speaker AND SENATOR LEVIN INDICATED THAT CONGRESSMAN BONOIR WOULD TAKE DIFFERENT POSITIONS. HE DID NOT INACCURATELY...
04:46:52 Unidentified Speaker ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT YOU MADE, THAT THESE RULES OF THE PARTY SHOULD NOT BE USED IN INAPPROPRIATE...
04:47:25 Unidentified Speaker I THINK YOU NEED A SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK YOU MADE A BIG MISTAKE NOT ROTATING THE SCHEDULE, I AGREE...
04:48:21 Unidentified Speaker AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE RULES, AND EVEN THOUGH YOU THINK THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD...
04:48:31 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE RULES AND I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE RULES THAT DISEN FRANCHISE VOTERS....
04:48:47 Unidentified Speaker I BELIEVE THAT THESE RULES ARE REASONABLE AND FAIR AND THE PRODUCT OF YEARS OF STUDY.
04:48:55 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL DEBATE THIS AFTER LUNCH.
04:48:59 Unidentified Speaker I COULDN'T LET A COMMENT LIKE THAT GO UNANSWERED.
04:49:21 Unidentified Speaker AND WOULD WE ARE SOUTH DAKOTA AND WE DID A REAL DISSERVICE TO BE AT THE END OF THE PRIMARY SEASON....
04:50:05 Unidentified Speaker AS A MINNESOTA LAW SCHOOL GRADUATE, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, AND I KNOW THAT TOM CONCURS.
04:50:15 Unidentified Speaker YES HE DOES. AND WE ARE AT THE END AND WE HAVE ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT...
04:50:36 Unidentified Speaker WELL, FIRST OF ALL, NUMBER ONE, AS I MENTIONED, HILLARY CLINTON TOOK NO POSITION OF WHETHER MICHIGAN...
04:51:19 Unidentified Speaker NEXT QUESTION IS FROM DON FALLIC.
04:51:23 Unidentified Speaker AND QUESTION THAT TOM HYNES RAISED AND HAS BEEN RAISED BY SENATOR LEVIN AND CONGRESSMAN BONEIR AND...
04:54:09 Unidentified Speaker WELL, OUR POSITION IS THAT THE DELEGATES SHOULD BE ALLOCATED ACCORDING TO THE PRIMARY, 73 DELEGATES...
04:54:42 Unidentified Speaker ALLEN KATZ.
04:54:44 Unidentified Speaker I WAS REFERRING TO SUPERDELEGATES ON THAT ONE.
04:54:48 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE GOVERNOR. AND SOME OBSERVATIONS AND IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE ASK THE QUESTION...
04:57:38 Unidentified Speaker FIRST OF ALL, THE PRINCIPLE IS TO TREAT THE RIGHT VOTERS, THE RIGHT TO VOTE, SACRED. THAT'S WHAT IS...
04:58:32 Unidentified Speaker MARTHA FULLER CLARK.
04:58:34 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO STATE -- I AM SORRY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE VOTERS IN MICHIGAN WHO WERE TOLD THAT...
05:00:14 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE WITH THAT. THE ONE THING I WOULD TAKE EXCEPTION TO, THAT DURING THE RUN UP TO THE JANUARY...
05:01:21 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT THAT 30,000 VOTERS DIDN'T GET THAT MESSAGE AND THEY FILED A WRITE- IN VOTE....
05:01:36 Unidentified Speaker AND MRS. CLARK, IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, WE WOULD COUNT THEM.
05:01:43 Unidentified Speaker DONNA BRAZIL.
05:01:46 Unidentified Speaker A COMMENT WAS MADE THAT GOES TO THE HEART THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, IN TERMS THE WAY WE HAVE USED...
05:03:06 Unidentified Speaker IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAD NO REPRESENTATIVES AND DOES NOT ON THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,...
05:03:53 Unidentified Speaker AND AS WE ARE DOING TODAY AND TO COME UP WITH A POLITICAL COMPROMISE. AND I WANT TO BE ON RECORD,...
05:04:44 Unidentified Speaker GOOD.
05:04:47 Unidentified Speaker BUT I AM NOT, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUR MOTHER. BUT MY MAMA TAUGHT ME TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND RESPECT...
05:06:57 Unidentified Speaker GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR, WOULD YOU LIKE THAT COMMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION.
05:07:03 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND I GUESS I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. HILLARY CLINTON...
05:08:09 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION, AND THAT'S FROM HAROLD.
05:08:21 Unidentified Speaker NOT HAROLD LICKY.
05:08:23 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU GOVERNOR, I APPLAUD YOU AND I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OF YOU, AND SINCE CONGRESSMAN BONOIR IS...
05:08:40 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS A QUESTION PERIOD, HAROLD, IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, YOU CAN SAVE THOSE. [APPLAUSE]
05:08:50 Unidentified Speaker SO THERE WOULD BE FULL DEBATE RIGHT AFTER LUNCH. WE HAVE --
05:09:00 Unidentified Speaker BEFORE, BEFORE YOU DEPART AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK YOU, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN...
05:09:33 Unidentified Speaker GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR A CLEAR PRESENTATION AND FOR A GREAT INTERACTION WITH THE COMMITTEE FOR THE...
05:09:41 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPPORTUNITY.
05:09:44 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:09:48 Unidentified Speaker AND I WANT TO THANK, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO MADE ORAL ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY. ...
05:10:35 Unidentified Speaker WE DETERMINED THAT THE TIME FOR RECONVENING DAU -- DUE TO THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR, WILL BE 4:15....
05:10:59 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, FOR EVERYONE LEAVING THROUGH THE BACK, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR CREDENTIAL,...
05:11:21 Unidentified Speaker AND WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECESS UNTIL 4:15, AND MOVED AND SECONDED. AND ALL IN FAVOR....
05:12:06 Unidentified Speaker AFTER A THREE HOUR BREAK, MEMBERS OF THE DNC RULES COMMITTEE, REASSEMBLED TO VOTE ON THE DELEGATES...
05:13:07 Unidentified Speaker THE RULES BYLAWS COMMITTEE IS BACK IN SESSION. FINALLY. [APPLAUSE] NOT ONLY HAS THERE OBVIOUSLY BEEN...
05:14:17 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL CONDUCT THE MOTIONS TO CONSIDER THE CHALLENGES IN THE ORDER THAT WE HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS...
05:16:39 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU MADAM CO-CHAIR. I ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO PLACE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT WE FULLY...
05:17:10 Unidentified Speaker JUST ONE MOMENT, I WOULD KINDLY REQUEST IN THE INTEREST OF THE DEBATE AND THE DELIBERATIONS THAT WE...
05:18:07 Unidentified Speaker AS I SAID, MY MOTION, I WON'T REPEAT, I DON'T WANT THE NOISE, AND TO GIVE THEIR FULL VOTING RIGHTS...
05:18:19 Unidentified Speaker SECOND.
05:18:21 Unidentified Speaker IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR. SORRY, MOVE TO DISCUSSION, MY ERROR, I AM REALLY READY TO GO...
05:18:33 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION.
05:18:36 Unidentified Speaker YOU MAY SPEAK TO THE MOTION AS MAKER OF THE MOTION.
05:18:41 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CHAIR, I POINTED OUT IN FORMAL AND INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS, THAT I AM SURE I AM NOT ALONE, BUT...
05:22:19 Unidentified Speaker IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MOTION?
05:22:25 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CHAIR.
05:22:30 Unidentified Speaker DAVID MCDONALD.
05:22:32 Unidentified Speaker I POSED THE MOTION, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INDICATE WHY AND TO WHAT EXTENT. ESSENTIALLY THIS...
05:24:54 Unidentified Speaker EVAN GATES.
05:24:59 Unidentified Speaker MADAM CO-CHAIR, I WANT TO SAY, I TOO AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THE MOTION. BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS,...
05:25:57 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU TINA FLANOY.
05:25:59 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU MADAM SECRETARY. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALICE HOFMAN THAT THROUGHOUT YESTERDAY AND...
05:27:09 Unidentified Speaker FLORIDA.
05:27:11 Unidentified Speaker FLORIDA, MICHIGAN IS ON MY BRAIN. THAT FLORIDA, I WISH MY COLLEAGUES WOULD VOTE DIFFERENTLY. AND...
05:31:01 Unidentified Speaker HAROLD ICKIES.
05:31:02 Unidentified Speaker I'LL BE BRIEF. I WANT TO ASSOCIATE MY COMMENTS
05:31:10 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
05:31:13 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO THANK ALICE, WHO HAS BEEN A LONG TIME MENTOR, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE THOUSANDS...
05:32:34 Unidentified Speaker I BELIEVE THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED BY MIKE STEED. ARE WE READY FOR THE VOTE? THE VOTE WILL CARRY...
05:34:02 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE 12 VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION. ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO THE MOTION AS PRESENTED BY MISS HUFFMAN,...
05:34:34 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE 15 VOTES OPPOSED TO THE MOTION. [APPLAUSE] ARE THERE -- ARE THERE -- [CROWD YELLING]
05:35:04 Unidentified Speaker CAN WE ASK THE SPECTATORS --
05:35:06 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE ASK THE SPECTATORS -- WE HAVE NOT CONCLUDED OUR VOTE. ARE THERE ANY ABSTENTIONS ON THIS VOTE?...
05:35:48 Unidentified Speaker CHAIRS, IN VIEW OF THE IMPRESSIVE AND HEARTFELT PRESENTATIONS BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE STATE...
05:37:34 Unidentified Speaker FOR THE RECORD YOU MEAN VOTES.
05:37:37 Unidentified Speaker DELEGATE VOTES.
05:37:39 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT.
05:37:41 Unidentified Speaker DELL GAIT VOTES. FURTHER, ALL UNPLEDGED DELEGATES SHALL BE ALLOCATED BY THE CALL AND SHALL BE ENTITLED...
05:38:14 Unidentified Speaker SECOND.
05:38:15 Unidentified Speaker IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? ALICE HUFFMAN.
05:38:29 Unidentified Speaker MADAME CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT THE MOTION THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE CANNOT...
05:41:13 Unidentified Speaker I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GOING TO
05:41:15 Unidentified Speaker [INAUDIBLE]
05:41:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER THAT I BELIEVE WAS MR. ICKIES WHO WANTED...
05:41:31 Unidentified Speaker SURE. ALICE SAID EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY. I'M DISAPPOINTED WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM FULL VOTE, BUT...
05:41:44 Unidentified Speaker A
05:41:45 Unidentified Speaker ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE WE ARE THREND FOR THIS VOTE. THIS VOTE WILL RESTORE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE...
05:43:46 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE 27 VOTES FOR THE OSMOND POSITION WITH MR. CATS NOT VOTING. I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD VIRTUALLY...
05:44:39 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY BRIEFLY BECAUSE WE ARE TIRED. I WANT TO POINT OUT WHILE I WAS NOT ABLE...
05:45:00 Unidentified Speaker WE'LL NOW PROCEED TO THE MICHIGAN CHALLENGE. WE WILL ASK FOR A MOTION, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE...
05:45:15 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MADAME CHAIR. I MOVE ALL PLEDGE DELEGATE POSITIONS IN MICHIGAN BE RESTORED...
05:46:16 Unidentified Speaker MA DAM CHAIR, I SECOND IT.
05:46:18 Unidentified Speaker MOVED AND SECONDED. I'M RECOGNIZING MR. FOULER.
05:46:27 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO SAY BRIEFLY THAT THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION WAS NOT ONE I FAVORED. IT WAS NOT MY FIRST CHOICE....
05:47:31 Unidentified Speaker MR. ICKIES.
05:47:35 Unidentified Speaker I RISE IN OPPOSITION. I'LL SIT. WE HAVE ALREADY STATED OUR -- MY VIEWS -- ON THIS. I REPRESENT SENATOR...
05:49:28 Unidentified Speaker IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
05:49:31 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RHETORIC DURING THIS MEETING -- THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RHETORIC ABOUT DEMOCRACY...
05:53:34 Unidentified Speaker MR. HINES?
05:53:37 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT IS NOT EVERY DAY THAT WE GET TO SEE HEARD ICKES STUNNED....
05:54:28 Unidentified Speaker YOU ARE DISHONORED YOUR CANDIDATE WHEN YOU INTERRUPT THE SPEAKERS. PLEASE REFRAIN.
05:54:35 Unidentified Speaker BY THE TESTIMONY OF SENATOR LEVIN AND OTHERS, THE PRIMARY UPON WHICH MR. ICKES' ARGUMENT IS BASED...
05:55:35 Unidentified Speaker MR. WARREN?
05:55:39 Unidentified Speaker MR. CHAIR AND MADAME CHAIRMAN, FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO AFFIRM THAT ALL OF US SIT AT THIS TABLE COMMITTED...
05:56:18 Unidentified Speaker ONE OF THE REASONS I SIT AT THIS TABLE -- [GAVEL BANGING]
05:56:28 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE ALLOW THE SPEAKER TO SPEAK. ALL SIDES ARE BEING HEARD.
05:56:33 Unidentified Speaker ONE OF THE REASONS I SIT AT THIS CHAIR AND TABLE IS BECAUSE OF A PERSON IN THIS ROOM. THERE'S A PERSON...
06:00:24 Unidentified Speaker THE TIME FOR DEBATE HAS EXPIRED. BUT AS A MATTER OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, BECAUSE HE CANNOT VOTE ON...
06:00:36 Unidentified Speaker MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE HAD MY HAND UP FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
06:00:41 Unidentified Speaker HIS, BUT THERE WERE SIX OTHER SPEAKERS BEFORE YEAR AT THE TIME HAS EXPIRED.
06:00:48 Unidentified Speaker BUT I HAD MY HAND UP AND YOU CALLED ON MR. FOWLER.
06:00:54 Unidentified Speaker GIVE HER A MINUTE.
06:00:55 Unidentified Speaker WITHOUT OBJECTION, I WILL ALLOW ONE MINUTE FOR MRS. SMITH AND MR. ROARK, AND THEN I WILL ACCEPT THE...
06:01:03 Unidentified Speaker FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE RULES COMMITTEE, I PERSONALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS TO MY FRIENDS IN MICHIGAN....
06:03:13 Unidentified Speaker MR. BREWER.
06:03:18 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR ITS VERY THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF A VERY DIFFICULT...
06:03:47 Unidentified Speaker MR. JOHNSON. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL PROCEED TO A VOTE ON THIS MOTION. I AM GOING TO ASK THE MAKER OF ...
06:04:10 Unidentified Speaker I MOVE THAT ALL PLEDGED DELEGATES POSITIONS IN MICHIGAN BE RESTORED PROVIDED THAT EACH PLEDGED DELEGATES...
06:05:10 Unidentified Speaker ALL THOSE IN FIBER, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [APPLAUSE]
06:05:21 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. THERE ARE 19 VOTES IN FAVOR. ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING...
06:05:47 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE -- [APPLAUSE]
06:05:55 Unidentified Speaker THERE ARE EIGHT VOTES AGAINST. ARE THERE ANY ABSTENTIONS? THERE ARE NO ABSTENTIONS. THE MOTION CARRIES....
06:06:20 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [GAVEL BANGING]
06:06:28 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CO-CHAIRMAN, MR. ROOSEVELT, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO HEAR...
06:06:53 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE HAVE THE COURTESY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HEAR WHAT THE VOTE WAS.
06:06:57 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU WOULD REPEAT --
06:07:02 Unidentified Speaker COULD WE PLEASE ASK THE SECURITY AT THE DOOR TO SECURE THE DOORS? THE MEETING IS STILL IN RECESSION....
06:07:17 Unidentified Speaker MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU REPEAT THE VOTE FOR THE YES VOTE AND THE VOTE FOR THE NO VOTE....
06:07:26 Unidentified Speaker THE VOTE ON THE MOTION REGARDING MICHIGAN WAS 19 IN FAVOR, EIGHT OPPOSED, AND NO ABSTENTIONS. NOW,...
06:08:14 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO EXTEND, PERSONALLY, TO THE TWO OF YOU MY THANKS AND THE THANKS OF THIS ENTIRE COMMITTEE...
06:08:38 Unidentified Speaker DO THANK YOU N. -- THANK YOU, DON. [APPLAUSE] [CHEERING] [APPLAUSE]
06:09:15 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD BE LESS THAN HONEST IF I TOLD YOU THAT EVERYTHING WE DID PLEASED ME, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT. ...
06:09:34 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE, AND MIKE CO-CHAIR, I AM SURE, APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND YOUR BID...
06:10:46 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO ENSURE THAT. [LAUGHTER] LET ME JUST ADD MY THANKS TO THAT OF MY CO-CHAIR. I WANT...
06:12:01 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE EXPRESSED BEFORE OUR THANKS TO THE STAFF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM...
06:13:11 Unidentified Speaker WE STAND ADJOURNED.

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