Mortgage Crisis in Neighborhoods

May 21, 2008

House Committee Oversight and Government Reform House Committee Oversight and Government Reform | Domestic Policy

Witnesses testified about the state of the housing market and the impact of recent foreclosures on neighborhoods and communities. Among the issues they addressed were falling house values, corresponding loss of revenue for municipalities, the impact on local safety and security services, and the long-term impact of home vacancies on the function .. Read More
Witnesses testified about the state of the housing market and the impact of recent foreclosures on neighborhoods and communities. Among the issues they addressed were falling house values, corresponding loss of revenue for municipalities, the impact on local safety and security services, and the long-term impact of home vacancies on the function of government and the economy.

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00:07:52 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
00:07:57 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I RECOGNIZE MR. TURNER FROM OHIO. OHIO.
00:08:00 Turner, Michael R.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN KUCINICH. I APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING THIS HEARING AND ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE....
00:10:42 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH HIM ON THIS. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLE LADY FROM...
00:10:54 Watson, DianeU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THE VERY IMPORTANT HEARING ABOUT THE SUBPRIME MORTGAGE...
00:13:17 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE BUFFALO AREA, MR. HIGGINS.
00:13:22 Higgins, BrianU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I LIKE YOU IN REPRESENTING THE CITY COUNCIL, I REPRESENTED THE CITY OF BUFFALO...
00:14:37 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLEMAN, ASK THE WITNESSES TO COME FORWARD, MR. KILDY AND MISS LORRAINE. WHILE YOU'RE...
00:24:52 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS VERY FLUID AND COMPREHENSIVE STATEMENT ABOUT THE UNDERLYING ECONOMIC...
00:25:23 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE...
00:27:36 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman IN MY COUNTY IT WENT TO 918 DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2008, AN INCREASE OF 1250%. NOTHING LIKE MR....
00:30:49 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLE LADY FOR HER TESTIMONY. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ASKING TREASURER KILDEE SOME QUESTIONS....
00:31:19 Kildee, Daniel T.President THE MOST SIGNIFICANT LESSON WE LEARNED IS ECONOMICS DO MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO URBAN LAND AND CANNOT...
00:32:13 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative YOU HAVE A DATABASE YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE WHO GOT INTO THE SUBPRIMES? WHO'S COME OUT IN THE SECONDARY...
00:32:23 Kildee, Daniel T.President RIGHT.
00:32:27 Kildee, Daniel T.President THE ISSUE FOR US, WE WANT TO APPROACH WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH STRENGTH THOSE...
00:32:52 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative WHAT KIND OF FEDERAL AID OR ASSISTANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED OR STRENGTH IN THE POSITION VIS-A-VIS THE...
00:33:58 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative BY STEPPING FORWARD THE WAY YOU DO, DO YOU THINK YOU DO A BETTER JOB THAN TRADITIONALLY PRIVATE SECTOR,...
00:34:14 Kildee, Daniel T.President I THINK SO. I WOULD SAY WHICH PRIVATE SECTOR? BECAUSE THERE'S ALL SORTS OF MARKETS FOR LAND. WHAT...
00:40:01 Kildee, Daniel T.President LENDERS SECURE THEIR FINANCIAL INTEREST IN A PROPERTY WITH A MORTGAGE, WHICH FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW,...
00:41:47 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman YES, SIR. ONE THING TO RECALL AS WELL IS WHEN YOU HAVE AN ABANDONED PROPERTY WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT...
00:44:05 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman THE ISSUE OF PREDATORY LENDING IS ONE WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH IN MARYLAND QUITE SOME TIME. AS...
00:45:17 Watson, DianeU.S. Representative YOU LED RIGHT INTO MY NEXT QUESTION. I WANTED TO KNOW AND ALSO, MR. DI -- UNCLE IS USUALLY MY SEAT...
00:45:46 Kildee, Daniel T.President I HAVE NOT -- I MEAN, I'M IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THERE'S DISINVESTMENT. WE DON'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT....
00:47:10 Watson, DianeU.S. Representative I'M GETTING READY TO HOLD A HUGE FORUM ON THIS ISSUE. AND WE HAVE BANKERS AND WE HAVE ALL ASPECTS...
00:48:26 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman IF I MIGHT OBSERVE AS WELL, CONGRESSWOMAN WATSON, CONSUMER COUNSELING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE AREA...
00:48:58 Watson, DianeU.S. Representative JUST ANOTHER COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. BUT IN CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE AN OFFICE OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS AND ...
00:49:37 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH THE GENTLE LADY ABOUT THAT. YOU THINK WE NEED TO LOOK...
00:49:49 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I THINK YOU GIVE A VERY GOOD PICTURE WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE....
00:50:04 Kildee, Daniel T.President THANK YOU.
00:50:05 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT MAY BE VETOED, IN A NUTSHELL, TALKS ABOUT VOLUNTARILY WRITING...
00:50:37 Kildee, Daniel T.President THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND. IF THERE IS SOME...
00:51:30 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR YOUR COMMUNITY BANKING -- YOUR LENDERS OUT THAT WAY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY...
00:51:37 Kildee, Daniel T.President LOCAL LENDERS FOR SURE. AND IN THE CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, OF FANNIE MAE, I HAPPEN TO CHAIR THE STATE LAND...
00:53:01 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman CONGRESSMAN, I THINK FROM THE BANKING PERSPECTIVE, OF COURSE, BANKERS CAN TELL YOU, BUT I THINK IT...
00:53:15 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative TIME AND WHAT ELSE?
00:53:19 Floreen, NancyCouncilwoman THE TIME IN WHICH PROPERTY IS NOT GENERATING REVENUE FOR THEM AND THE PREDICTABILITY OF THE PROCESS....
00:53:41 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative WELL, THANK YOU BOTH. MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.
00:53:50 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I WANT TO THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM MASSACHUSETTS AND THANK THE PANELISTS. THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE...
00:58:02 Been, VickiDirector THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN KUCINICH AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE @@@@' & & RR TO ASSESS THE EXTERNAL EFFECTS...
01:03:05 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY SIGNIFICANT QUANTIFICATION. APPRECIATE IT. MS. BETTS, PLEASE PROCEED.
01:03:14 Betts, PhyllisDirector THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:03:15 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative COULD YOU GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THAT MIKE? AND, STAFF, COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT MIKE IS ON?
01:03:26 Betts, PhyllisDirector THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M COMING FROM MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. WE'RE NOT...
01:05:34 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative EXCUSE ME. WHAT WAS THAT PERCENT AGAIN?
01:05:37 Betts, PhyllisDirector 25% OF OUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING STOCK.
01:05:41 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
01:05:43 Betts, PhyllisDirector OUR SUBPRIME LENDING ESCALATED BETWEEN 2004 AND 2005, GOING UP FROM 25% TO 40% OF ALL MORTGAGE LOANS...
01:11:30 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative I THANK THE GENTLE LADY. MR. TALMAGE, PRES PROCEED WITH YOUR TESTIMONY.
01:11:35 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. WOULD YOU PLEASE BRING THAT MIKE UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SO WE CAN ALL HEAR...
01:11:44 Talmage, JohnPresident and CEO THERE WE GO. HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME, BECAUSE I THINK THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE PROBLEMS...
01:16:26 Unidentified Speaker I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO QUESTIONS NOW. TO TALK ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF...
01:17:01 Unidentified Speaker THE PROBLEM WITH --
01:17:04 Unidentified Speaker COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT'S ON AND BRING IT CLOSER?
01:17:06 Unidentified Speaker I'M SORRY. THE PROBLEM OF MORAL HAZARD IS USUALLY CONSIDERED TO BE THE SITUATION WHERE A DECISION-MAKER...
01:18:18 Unidentified Speaker YOU'VE SAID THAT FORECLOSURE-DRIVEN BRIGHT WILL NOT BE REVERSED BY A MARKET CORRECTION, THAT FORECLOSURE-DRIVEN...
01:19:03 Unidentified Speaker I THINK ONE OF THE WITNESSES EARLIER WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME PROPERTIES CAN BE REINTEGRATED INTO...
01:20:22 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO GO BACK TO PROFESSOR BEAN. YOU HAVE FOUND THAT THE AMOUNT OF DECREASE IN HOUSING VALUES...
01:20:53 Unidentified Speaker WELL, YOU HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT BOTH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S AFFECTED BY TREMENDOUS...
01:21:44 Unidentified Speaker JUST A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. THE RESEARCH YOU'RE INVOLVED IN SHOWS HOUSING PRICES INCREASES AS THE NUMBER...
01:22:04 Unidentified Speaker NO. FORECLOSURES ARE VERY, VERY CONCENTRATED. FOR EXAMPLE, IN NEW YORK CITY, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL...
01:22:41 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO GO TO CONGRESSMAN WATSON.
01:22:45 Unidentified Speaker REAL QUICKLY, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK YOU PROBABLY ELUDED TO MY QUESTIONS. WHAT FACTORS...
01:23:08 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE MAIN FACTOR THAT AFFECTS WHETHER A PROPERTY BECOMES VACANT IS THE STRENGTH OF THE HOUSING...
01:24:16 Unidentified Speaker MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS HEARING. WE'VE GOT VOTES ON THE FLOOR, SO I'LL YIELD...
01:24:31 Unidentified Speaker I THANK THE GENTLE LADY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS SINCE THERE ARE VOTES. AT THE CONCLUSION OF...
01:28:06 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE AND SHOULD THOSE MARKETS BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF PROVIDING...
01:28:15 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, YOU HAVE IMMARKET...
01:28:49 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. MR. TALMAGE, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN DETROIT, CLEVELAND, ST. LOUIS, AMONG OTHER PLACES....
01:29:15 Unidentified Speaker NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S INSULATED.
01:29:18 Unidentified Speaker EXACERBATED?
01:29:19 Unidentified Speaker IT'S EXACERBATED IT. IN THE CASE OF DETROIT WHERE YOU'VE DECLINED FROM A POPULATION OF 2 MILLION TO...
01:29:26 Unidentified Speaker COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT MIKE IS ON.
01:29:27 Unidentified Speaker YES, SIR. IS THIS BETTER? IN THE CASE OF DETROIT WHERE THE POPULATION HAS FALLEN FROM 2 MILLION TO...
01:29:58 Unidentified Speaker HOW WOULD FORECLOSURES THAT OCCURRED, LET'S SAY, IN 2000 OR, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LATER, SHOW UP TODAY...
01:30:10 Unidentified Speaker WOULD THEY BE VACANT OR OWNER-OCCUPIED IN? I THINK --
01:30:15 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WAS IT LIKE IN 2000?
01:30:18 Unidentified Speaker IN 2000, YOU HAD NEW -- I'LL USE DETROIT AS MY EXAMPLE. THE CITY OF DETROIT LED THE MSA IN THE NUMBER...
01:31:15 Unidentified Speaker PROFESSOR BEAN, I THINK I REMEMBER IN YOUR DISCUSSION AND MAYBE IN BETTS GOT INTO IT AS WELL -- THE...
01:32:36 Unidentified Speaker I'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THAT QUITE A BIT. OUR LOCAL RETAIL BANKS, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT WERE TO BE...
01:32:44 Unidentified Speaker TALK CLOSER TO THE MIKE, OKAY. BRING THE MIKE CLOSER.
01:32:50 Unidentified Speaker OUR LOCAL RETAIL BANKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LESS THAN 20% OF THE ORIGINATIONS, MORTGAGE ORIGINATIONS...
01:33:42 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD LIKE -- DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT?
01:33:45 Unidentified Speaker NO. I WOULD JUST ECHO I THINK PHYLLIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT IN CLEVELAND, IT WASN'T THE ACTIONS...
01:34:15 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS SUBCOMMITTEE TO, AS WE GET DEEPER INTO THIS ISSUE OF...
01:35:21 Unidentified Speaker JUST A COUPLE OF WRAP-UP QUESTIONS.
01:35:24 Unidentified Speaker PLEASE, DO.
01:35:27 Unidentified Speaker MS. BEEN, IF WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY THE EXTERNAL EFFECTS OF FORECLOSURE, WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE...
01:35:47 Unidentified Speaker GENERALLY, IN THINKING ABOUT THE EXTERNAL EFFECTS, YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UNIT...
01:36:19 Unidentified Speaker IN KEEPING THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE RECORD SIMPLISTIC TO ALL OF US. WE WANT...
01:36:45 Unidentified Speaker THEY'VE LOST -- IF THEY TRY TO SELL THE HOUSE, THEY CERTAINLY WILL NOT MAKE AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD...
01:36:51 Unidentified Speaker IF THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY IN DIRE STRAITS. I THINK THE RECORD CAN REFLECT FORECLOSURE...
01:37:04 Unidentified Speaker YES.
01:37:07 Unidentified Speaker SO THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT, WHAT'S THE SOCIETAL CONSEQUENCES OF THE NEIGHBORS...
01:37:16 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE SOCIETAL CONSEQUENCES ARE SEVERAL FOLD. ONE IS WE'VE SEEN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IT LOOKS...
01:37:55 Unidentified Speaker WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD?
01:37:56 Unidentified Speaker YES.
01:37:58 Unidentified Speaker IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR DISCUSSION BECAUSE I CAN GO BACK TO...
01:38:44 Unidentified Speaker MS. BETTS AND MS. COAL YINTION, YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE?
01:38:48 Unidentified Speaker I WOULD UNDERSCORE THAT IN A LOT OF MARKETS, I WOULD LOOK AT MEDIUM-SIZED CITIES IN THE SOUTH AND...
01:39:44 Unidentified Speaker YES, SIR. ALSO, I THINK THAT THE UNIT OF ANALYSIS SHOULD BE AT THE BLOCK GROUP LEVEL NOT THE HOUSEHOLD...
01:40:57 Unidentified Speaker IF I MAY, ONE CLOSING QUESTION. MR. TALMAGE, IN YOUR WRITTEN TESTIMONY YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT THAT THE...
01:41:04 Unidentified Speaker YES, SIR.
01:41:05 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE WHAT YOU THINK IT IS NATIONWIDE?
01:41:09 Unidentified Speaker NO, BUT WE HAVE A METHODOLOGY TO GET TO THAT.
01:41:12 Unidentified Speaker I BET YOU DO. I YIELD BACK TO YOU.
01:41:17 Unidentified Speaker I THANK MY COLLEAGUE. AGAIN, CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, I MENTIONED A PARK....
01:43:16 Unidentified Speaker AS THE THIRD PANEL IS TAKING ITS PLACE WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE OUTSTANDING WITNESSES ON OUR THIRD...
01:45:35 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. FIRST I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMITTEE FOR TACKLING THIS ISSUE AND ALSO FOR FOCUSING ON...
01:52:42 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. LEEPER, PLEASE PROCEED.
01:52:45 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE AND REPRESENT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION THROUGHOUT THE UNITED...
01:59:44 Unidentified Speaker I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR HIS TESTIMONY. MR. BAKER, THANK YOU.
01:59:49 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU CHAIRMAN KUCINICH. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. I'M GOING TO TAKE...
02:05:46 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. BAKER. LET'S GO TO QUESTIONS OF THE PANEL. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE DISCUSSION...
02:06:19 Unidentified Speaker MY FATHER TOLD ME THAT MONEY TALKS. ALL MINE SAYS IS GOOD-BYE, BUT --
02:06:24 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT EQUATION.
02:06:27 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S TRUE. AND WE DON'T WALK. I HAVE CONTACTED WELLS FARGO NOW THAT I CAN CALL DIRECTLY WHEN WE...
02:06:57 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU ISSUE FINES TO STOP LOSS?
02:06:59 Unidentified Speaker WHY WE DO.
02:07:01 Unidentified Speaker HAVE YOU SUED TO ENFORCE YOUR ORDINANCE?
02:07:03 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE LIENED PROPERTIES. OUR LIENS ARE GOING AS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY TAXES, AND...
02:07:09 Unidentified Speaker AND ARE YOU KEEPING UP WITH THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ORDINANCE?
02:07:14 Unidentified Speaker WE WERE INITIALLY. IT HAS GONE TO WHERE I HAVE TO ADD STAFF NOW, TAKE THEM OFF OF OTHER ITEMS THAT...
02:07:24 Unidentified Speaker DO MUNICIPALITIES NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT?
02:07:28 Unidentified Speaker IN A WORD, YES.
02:07:29 Unidentified Speaker THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT RELATES TO HUD AND WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WE HAD A GENERAL REVENUE...
02:08:04 Unidentified Speaker YES, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS -- CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A VERY INTEGRAL --
02:08:08 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU WANT TO GET IN ON THAT?
02:08:11 Unidentified Speaker IF I COULD ADD TO THAT. FIRST, I AGREE 100%. I THINK THEY DO NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. BUT THEY...
02:08:32 Unidentified Speaker WHAT CAPACITY NEEDS TO BE BUILT?
02:08:34 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE SKILLS -- THE SKILLS OF THE INSPECTORS. THE ABILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT -- CODE ENFORCEMENT...
02:08:55 Unidentified Speaker THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE ANY ROLE IN THAT AT ALL?
02:08:59 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I'LL SAY TWO THINGS. ONE, CERTAINLY FINANCIAL HELP COULD BE DONE. THE OTHER THING, AND I KNOW...
02:09:11 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT.
02:09:13 Unidentified Speaker SO THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING CODE ENFORCEMENT AND NUISANCE ABATEMENT OPERATION...
02:09:24 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ABOUT INCENTIVES REQUIRED IN DEAL WITH THE REAL
02:09:26 Unidentified Speaker PARDON?
02:09:29 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ABOUT INCENTIVES THAT MAY BE REQUIRED IN DEALING WITH THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY. YOUR CONCERNED...
02:09:41 Unidentified Speaker I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A MORAL HAZARD ISSUE THERE. AND I FIND MYSELF VERY MUCH TORN BECAUSE I THINK...
02:09:53 Unidentified Speaker WOULD YOU DEFINE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE -- MAY HAVE JUST JOINED US, WHAT YOU MEAN BY MORAL HAZARD.
02:10:00 Unidentified Speaker MORAL HAZARD IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE YOU BAIL OUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS MISBEHAVED AND, THEREBY, GIVE THE...
02:10:13 Unidentified Speaker GIVE US AN EXAMPLE.
02:10:16 Unidentified Speaker WELL, AGAIN, SUPPOSE IF -- THIS IS AN EXTREME CASE. SUPPOSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFERED TO BUYOUT...
02:10:47 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. I WANT TO ASK MR. BAKER HERE, BEFORE I GO TO MR. TIERNEY. AS AN ECONOMIST, WHAT WOULD YOU...
02:11:08 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THERE ARE -- THERE CAN BE SOME ISSUES OF MORAL HAZARD. THAT'S GOING TO BE TRUE IN ALMOST ANYTHING...
02:12:56 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative THE@@@@@@@@Z"RRg'"HRRkgIbRR'RR"RR THE MARKET IN THAT AREA.
02:13:17 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director YES.
02:13:22 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT IS.
02:13:25 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director THIS IS AN ACTUAL PASSAGE YOU'D DECIDE WHO YOU WANT TO BENEFIT FROM IT. I BELIEVE REPRESENTATIVE GRAVALA...
02:14:05 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative IT JUST SEEMED ARBITRARY BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY JUST OVER THE EDGE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE...
02:14:47 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY A LOSS FOR THE LENDER. THEY ARE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOSS ON THE PROPERTY. AND...
02:15:35 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE SOME LAWYERS LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF CONSTITUTIONAL IMPLICATIONS....
02:15:55 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director THE LAWYERS I HAVE SPOKEN TO ON THAT -- I'VE SPOKEN TO A NUM BEFR LAWYERS -- IN THEIR VIEW THEY THOUGHT...
02:16:12 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative LET ME ASK THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT PROPOSAL.
02:16:16 Mallach, AlanSenior Research Fellow I THINK IT'S BASICALLY A VERY GOOD IDEA. AND, IN FACT, I SHOULD MENTION THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH...
02:17:39 Leeper, DougManager I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE LENDING FOLKS IN THE LENDING INDUSTRY THAT ARE AT LEAST...
02:18:25 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative MR. BAKER, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO MR. MALLACH'S ADJUSTMENT TO YOUR PROPOSAL.
02:18:32 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director OBVIOUSLY, A LOT WILL DEPEND WHAT'S ON THE TABLE AND POLITICALLY FEASIBLE. YOU ARE THE BETTER ONE...
02:19:02 Leeper, DougManager ACCORDING TO THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, OCCUPIED PROPERTIES ARE MORE MARKETABLE AND HELPS MAINTAIN...
02:19:11 Tierney, JohnU.S. Representative MR. CHAIRMAN VIRKS TO LEAVE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS HEARING AND FOR THE EXCELLENT WITNESSES...
02:19:32 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative YOUR PARTICIPATION HELPS MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I JUST HAVE -- BEFORE WE WRAP THIS UP, I HAVE ONE QUESTION...
02:20:10 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ASPECT OF MORAL HAZARD APPLYING TO WALL STREET. AGAIN,...
02:20:46 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative IF THE BUYER IS BEWARE IS THE LENDER TO BE PRUDENT?
02:20:48 Baker, DeanCo-Founder and Co-Director EXACTLY. THE LENDERS ARE NOT BEING ASKED TO SUFFER. WE'VE STEPPED IN TO PREVENT THE LENDERS FROM SUFFERING....
02:20:58 Kucinich, DennisU.S. Representative THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM DENNIS KUCINICH, CHAIRMAN OF DOMESTIC POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE...

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