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MY NAME IS ANDER AND FIVE FROM COLORADO, WELCOME TO CLOSE UP AT THE NEWSEUM. |
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NEGATIVE ASHLEY AND I'M FROM MICHIGAN. AND TODAY'S TOPIC IS IMMIGRATION REFORM. |
| 00:00:36 |
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I'M YOUR HOST, FRANK BOND AND THE STUDIO AT THE NEWSEUM IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. EACH WEEK WE BRING STUDENTS... |
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NEGATIVE KATIE NELSON FROM WYOMING. MY CLOSE UP EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN SO GREAT. I'VE GOTTEN TO SEE THE... |
| 00:01:22 |
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HAVE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE? IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME? |
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THIS IS MY FIRST TIME. |
| 00:01:28 |
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WHAT SURPRISED YOU MOST SEEING WASHINGTON, D.C. FROM A DISTANCE AND THEN COMING AND BEING HERE FOR... |
| 00:01:35 |
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WELL, THEY HAVE A LOT OF RAIN HERE AND I DON'T SEE RAIN AND WYOMING, SO THAT HAS BEEN A BIG EYE OPENER... |
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AND OF COURSE AFTER THE RAIN CLEARED AND SOME CANNOT COME TO WASHINGTON AND THE PRETTIEST TIME IN THE... |
| 00:02:00 |
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IT IS GORGEOUS. |
| 00:02:01 |
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WE HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU AS THE SHOW GOES ON. LET'S TALK TO ANOTHER STUDENT. WELCOME TO CLOSE... |
| 00:02:09 |
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MY NAME IS JOHNNY HOLLY FROM SOUTH DAKOTA. |
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NOW, WE TALK TO KIDS TO COME THERE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY GOT THIS ELECTION GOING ON. ARE YOU GOING... |
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YES, I AM ALREADY 18 SO I WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. |
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WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN A LEADER FOR THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO GET YOUR VOTE TO BE PRESIDENT... |
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FOR THE PERSON WHO IS WHITE TO GET MY VOTE I'M LOOKING FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT LEADER... |
| 00:02:44 |
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IF YOU HAD TO PICK TWO TOPIX, TWO ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU, WHAT WITH 80? |
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THE TWO TOPICS WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME I WOULD SAY WOULD PROBABLY BE ABORTION AND AGRICULTURE.... |
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WHAT ABOUT AGRICULTURE? |
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WELL, BEING FROM SOUTH DAKOTA WE HAVE A LOT OF AGRICULTURE GROWING AROUND OUR STATE INCLUDING ETHANOL... |
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AND IT'S INTERESTING WHAT WE'VE NOTICED ALL YEAR LONG, OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TALK ABOUT SOME OF... |
| 00:03:42 |
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I WISH WE COULD HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE COMING FROM WHERE I'M FROM THERE ARE A LOT OF GIRLS... |
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THANKS, WELCOME TO WASHINGTON AND I LOOK FORWARD HEARING MORE FROM YOU. LET'S TALK TO ANOTHER STUDENT... |
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HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBERT FROM WYOMING. AND MY GROUP AND I ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY AT LEAST AS FAR AS... |
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WHAT DID YOU TALK ABOUT AND HEAR FROM YOUR SENATORS AND WHAT DID IT TAKE TO THE OFFICE HE WANTED THEM... |
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WE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS AND GOT THEIR ANSWERS THAT I THINK WE WERE PRETTY MUCH LOOKING FOR. |
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AND IF YOU HAD TO PICK TWO ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU RIGHT NOW AS YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE... |
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SOME ISSUES IN WYOMING ARE THE NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT, WHICH WYOMING WOULD SAY IT'S UNFAIR TO US... |
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ARE YOU GOING TO BE VOTING IN NOVEMBER? |
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YES, I WILL BE. |
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WHAT SORTS OF THINGS HAS YOUR HIGH SCHOOL BEEN DOING TO KEEP THE ELECTION IN FOCUS, SHARPER FOCUS... |
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WE PRETTY MUCH REQUESTED TO VOTE OR REGISTERED TO VOTE. WE REQUESTED TO VOTE AND ENCOURAGED. AND PRETTY... |
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OKAY, THANKS, WELCOME TO WASHINGTON. MEANTIME WE ARE GOING TO START WITH THIS WEEK ON CONGRESS ISSUE.... |
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THE QUESTION TODAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT 42 MINUTES RIGHT HERE IS DO THEY DO IT EFFECTIVELY? DOES... |
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WELL, YES IT HAS TO COUNT AS A COUNTERBALANCE FOR CHECKS AND BALANCES AND STUFFED SO THAT IT DOESN'T... |
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I THINK IT'S LIMITED BY ITS OWN PARTISANSHIP. |
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DO THINK CONGRESS IS EFFECTIVELY PROTECTING ITS PEOPLE FROM HOT TOPIC ISSUES LIKE THE IRAQ WAR? |
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WE WERE PRETTY OUTSPOKEN AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. THE PRESIDENT HAS SOME POWERS AND WE HAVE SOME POWERS.... |
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TODAY THE STUDIO DISCUSSION IS ON IMMIGRATION AND WE HAVE TWO GUESTS IN OUR STUDIO. FIRST TO MY LEFT,... |
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I'M SONYA HERE IN THE NEWSEUM'S FRONTPAGE GALLERY ASKING THE STUDENTS WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY OF... |
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I BELIEVE AMNESTY WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. |
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ID BELIEVE ACTUALLY THAT BUILDING THE WALL WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY BECAUSE IT COULD REDUCE... |
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I FEEL THAT FINDING EMPLOYERS IS THE BEST WAY BECAUSE SEEING OUR ECONOMY IS IN RECESSION MAY NEED... |
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THAT'S A CLOSE UP LOOK WHAT AMERICA'S HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THINK. FRANK, BACK TO YOU. |
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WE'RE TALKING ABUT THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE, THE NEED FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM. DAN, I WANT TO START WITH... |
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WELL, FIRST OF ALL I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THERE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN A VERY... |
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BRENT, YOU CAN ON THE SHOW AND WE HAVE SOME WHO DECLINED OUR INVITATION. WHY DID YOU FEEL IT WAS ... |
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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A DEBATE ABOUT ISSUES, ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY... |
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I WANT TO BRING OUR STUDENTS INTO IT. AND ASK THE POLL QUESTION JUST SO WE CAN GET A SENSE. BECAUSE... |
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I SEE A BALANCE OF PEOPLE, MANY OF THEM PERHAPS HAVE ANCESTORS WHO FOUGHT IN THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR... |
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AND BRENT, FOR YOU. WHEN YOU SEE THE HANDS GO UP, WHAT DO YOU SEE? |
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I SEE A STUDENT BODY MANY STILL EMBODIES TO ROCK HISTORY, MANY DEMOGRAPHICS IS IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.... |
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MOST PEOPLE .23 SOLID ISSUES THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED IN THE IMMIGRATION REFORM. BORDER SECURITY, REFORMING... |
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I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE FACING... |
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BRENT, THE LARGE POPULATION, THE POLITICIANS PICK THE RIGHT THREE TO START WITH OR IS AS DAN SUGGEST,... |
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I THINK THOSE ARE THREE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS TO INCLUDE IN THE DISCUSSION. THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT... |
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BEFORE WE DID IT, BECAUSE THIS ISSUE WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH, I WANT TO GET THE STUDENTS INVOLVED... |
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I'M KATIE NELSON FROM WYOMING. AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ON BORDER CONTROL... |
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WELL, I WANT TO CHALLENGE EVERYBODY HERE ON THIS QUESTION. WE HAVE WORDS, RIGHT? SO THE QUESTION IS... |
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I AGREE OF THE BORDER PATROL IN THE WORLD AREN'T GOING TO HELP, THAT IS THE ONE THING I AGREE WITH.... |
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LET'S GO TO ANOTHER STUDENT QUESTION RIGHT AWAY. HELLO AND WELCOME TO CLOSE UP AT NEWSEUM. |
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I'M FROM MIAMI AND MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU. WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING EVEN THOUGH THOSE ILLEGAL... |
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SO IF YOU HAVE GOT THE IMMIGRANT CHILDREN WHO ARE HERE WORKING HARD TO GET TO COLLEGE AND YOU ARE... |
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YES. |
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEIR POLITICAL BARRIERS GOT TO SUCCEEDING?... |
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THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE, THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THING ABOUT THIS DEBATE IS THERE IS NO POLICY REASON... |
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AGAIN, BRENT'S POSITION BASICALLY SEEMS TO BE THE REASON PEOPLE COME ILLEGALLY IS BECAUSE WE DON'T... |
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BRENT? |
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FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE IMMIGRATION LAW, SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WE ARE FOR LAWBREAKING.... |
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LET'S GO TO ANOTHER STUDENT. HELLO, WELCOME TO CLOSE UP AT NEWSEUM. |
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I'M FROM COLORADO. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU THINK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BENEFITS... |
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ABSOLUTELY NOT. THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WE'RE HAVING THE PUBLIC... |
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DAMN, I WANT TO GO BACK BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BORDER CONTROL, YOU MENTIONED EMPLOYERS... |
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THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. IN 1986 WE WERE TOLD IF WE GIVE AMNESTY TO 3.2 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS... |
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LET ME JUST RESPOND TO TWO THINGS. ONE, FIRST OF ALL IMMIGRANTS ON IF APPLICABLE, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS... |
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KEYS THAT THE ARGUMENT, I MADE THE ARGUMENT EMPLOYERS NEED TO BE HAMMERED FOR USING PREDATORY HIRING... |
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THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE ENFORCEMENT OF OUR OWN AMERICAN BUSINESS PRACTICES, CAN WE NOT FOCUS OR WHY... |
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BECAUSE EMPLOYERS HAVE CLOUT. YOU SEE EMPLOYERS SHIPPING OUR JOBS OVERSEAS, BRINGING IN FARM WORKERS... |
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WE WILL COME BACK TO THE ISSUE AND TALK ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE BUT FIRST I'M GOING TO REMIND OUR TELEVISION... |
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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. WHITE BART AMERICANS DON'T WANT TO GO TO WORK, THEY DON'T WANT TO... |
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THIS IS ANOTHER INDICATION OF THE EMOTIONAL UNDERCURRENTS IN THIS DEBATE, AND SO HOW YOU ANSWER QUESTION... |
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LET ME JUST SAY THIS. FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR COUNTRY WE HAVE HONORED WORK AS A VERY FUNDAMENTAL... |
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PICK UP ON THE LAST POINT. [CHEERING] [APPLAUSE] |
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I WANTED TO PICK UP ON THE LAST POINT, THE MILITARY, SERVICE AND THE MILITARY AS BEING ONE FAST-TRACK... |
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I HAVE TO ADMIT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND HIS POINT ABOUT AMERICANS WHO WERE NOT WILLING TO WORK. PEOPLE... |
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LET'S GO TO ANOTHER STUDENT. |
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I AM ANDREW FROM COLORADO. MY QUESTION IS, SINCE WE ARE IN THE WAR, MEXICO HAS THE BORDER PATROL ON... |
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BRENT, YOU START THIS TIME AND NO CONSISTENCY IT ON BORDER CONTROL NORTH AND SOUTH, AND THEN THE IMPEDIMENTS... |
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GREAT, FIRST OF ALL OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT WE ARE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON THE OTHER BORDER... |
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WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? |
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I WOULD SAY FIVE AND A DOZEN WOULD BE A GOOD START. |
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EUROPE HAS A TOTALLY OPEN, I LIVE THERE THIS SUMMER AND IT WAS TOTALLY OPEN, THE HEAD IMMIGRANTS FROM... |
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I DON'T THINK IT WALL OR A BORDER IS GOING TO STOP A DETERMINED TERRORIST FROM COMING IN SO WE HAVE... |
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LET ME JUMP IN ONE MOMENT BECAUSE CERTAINLY AND ONCE AGAIN WE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE INSTEAD... |
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WELL, A BUNCH OF THINGS I WOULD RESPOND TO BUT I WOULD SAY JOHN MCCAIN, WHEN HE CHANGED HIS POSITIONS... |
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LET'S STOP RIGHT THERE AND GRAB ANOTHER STUDENT. HELLO. |
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I AM BRIAN FROM THEN THE MICHIGAN AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU THINK IT IS HARD TO BECOME A U.S. CITIZEN?... |
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I DON'T THINK IT IS TOO HARD AT ALL. AS I SAY, WE ARE MOVING IMMIGRATION AT SUCH A RAPID PACE NOW,... |
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FIRST I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU BECAUSE U.S. THE QUESTION. DO YOU FEEL IT IS TOO DIFFICULT OR TOO EASY... |
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I THINK IT IS SOUL HARD. WE TOOK THE TEST OF MY SCHOOL AND NOT EVEN HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN MY CLASS... |
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NO, THEY JUST GIVE IT. |
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IT IS LIKE A DRIVER'S TEST, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT COLOR IS THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN YOU GO IN TO TAKE THE... |
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BRENT, WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PROCESS? |
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THE THINK DAN IS RIGHT IN THE FACT IS THAT HARDER AND IT CERTAINLY TAKES A LOT LONGER TO BE AT THE... |
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IT IS ABOUT 50% AND WE ARE HAVING THE SAME DEBATE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALLOWED OUR PERCENTAGE TO DIRECT... |
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THERE IS ONE THING I WANT TO POINT EL DESAI RODDICK. HE SAYS EMIGRANTS SHOULD ASSIMILATE. WE AGREE... |
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WAIT A MINUTE, WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. WE WILL GO TO ANOTHER STUDENT. WELCOME TO CLOSE OF THE THAT... |
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ONE OF THE MAJOR CONTENTIONS THAT OUR GROUP HAS NO AND WE COULD IMPROVE ITS EMPIRICALLY IS THE TEMPORARY... |
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LET'S THE RIGHT WAY TO ANOTHER STUDENT BECAUSE WE ARE COMING SHORT OF TIME. HELLO. |
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MY NAME IS GEORGE AND I AM FROM MIAMI MY QUESTION IS, WHY DO AMERICANS NOT TO THE KIND OF JOBS THAT... |
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IS IT BETTER BRENT TO IMPORT THE TOMATOES IMPASTE PEOPLE THE WAGES, BRING IN PEOPLE TO WORK IT WAGES... |
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THAT IS THE PART, THE IMPASSE WHERE OUR PROGRESS AND POLITICAL LEADERS WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE WILL... |
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I JUST HAVE TO RESPOND. THINK WE WANT TO HOLD ONTO ALL THE INDUSTRY WE CAN BECAUSE OUR TRADE DEFICIT... |
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WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT IN THAT RIGHT THERE. I KNOW WE GO ON ALL AFTERNOON BUT THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.