SHARE
TRANSCRIPT
| TIME | SPEAKER | TEXT |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00:42 |
|
TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SUBCOMMITTEE OR ANY COMMITTEE THAT'S DONE MORE TO TRY... |
| 00:02:56 |
|
WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WANT TO JOIN YOU IN WELCOMING SECRETARY PAYTON AND... |
| 00:04:19 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 00:04:20 |
|
THOMPSON HAS A WHOLE LIST OF WHY THIS CONTRACT WAS AWARDED AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE... |
| 00:04:59 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 00:05:03 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
| 00:05:05 |
|
CONCERNS IN HER OWN DISTRICT TO MAKE A FEW OPENING REMARKS. FIRST WE'LL HEAR MR. DICKS. |
| 00:05:12 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WISH I COULD SAY THAT I WAS HAPPY WITH THIS DECISION, BUT I CERTAINLY AM... |
| 00:11:14 |
|
WE AGREED BEFORE WE STARTED TO LET MR. TIAHRT ALSO HAVE AN OPENING STATEMENT AND MR. CRAMER AND THEN... |
| 00:11:25 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS VERY IMPORTANT HEARING. I LOOK FORWARD TO... |
| 00:18:07 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL BE BRIEF. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS MEMBERS OF THE... |
| 00:20:11 |
|
I WILL HEAR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND NORMALLY WE PUT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION IN THE RECORD BUT I THINK... |
| 00:20:27 |
|
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY.... |
| 00:27:28 |
|
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF OUR QUESTIONS AND I WOULD JUST... |
| 00:27:45 |
|
WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY CAN ANSWER. THIS IS AS POLITICAL AS ANYTHING THAT WE DO. YOU SAY YOU BUDGETED,... |
| 00:27:53 |
|
THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. |
| 00:27:55 |
|
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DUBAI CRISIS WE HAD AND THE PUBLIC WAS UP IN ARMS, THIS COMMITTEE, THE FULL COMMITTEE,... |
| 00:28:24 |
|
ABSOLUTELY NOT. [ INAUDIBLE ] |
| 00:28:25 |
|
SURE. |
| 00:28:31 |
|
THANK YOU. TO YOU, GENERAL HUDSON, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE HAS LOTS OF REASONS TO SERIOUSLY... |
| 00:31:04 |
|
THE POLITICAL IMPLICATION WAS SO SEVERE IN THIS CASE. FOR INSTANCE, WE COULDN'T EVEN GET NATO TO GIVE... |
| 00:32:21 |
|
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A GOOD ATTENDANCE TODAY. I'M WONDERING IF MR. LAUREN THOMPSON IS IN THE AUDIENCE.... |
| 00:34:03 |
|
YES, SIR, AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. THE AIR FORCE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE ON THIS SOURCE SELECTION... |
| 00:34:59 |
|
SECRETARY PAYTON, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I THINK IT'S SENSITIVE HERE. WE HAVE... |
| 00:36:30 |
|
JOB CREATION, LOCATION OF ASSEMBLY AND MANUFACTURING WERE NOT PART OF THIS EVALUATION KRI TEAR YEAH... |
| 00:37:20 |
|
OKAY. AND I'LL ACCEPT THAT AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THE LAW, BUT DO YOU KNOW THE... |
| 00:37:29 |
|
YOU KNOW, I DO NOT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE EVALUATION CRITERIA AND AS A PERSON WHO HAS TO FOLLOW... |
| 00:38:12 |
|
OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND I JUST SORT OF TEST IT TO SEE IF WE... |
| 00:38:24 |
|
WELL, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. I WISH I COULD AWARD TO SOMEBODY I LIKE. I WISH I COULD AWARD TO SOMEBODY... |
| 00:38:54 |
|
OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE IN POSITIONS... |
| 00:39:51 |
|
YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO HAVE TERRY CASTON ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE HE'S VERY IN TUNE WITH ALL OF... |
| 00:40:23 |
|
YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. OUR PROJECTIONS ARE RECAPITALIZATION RATE AT 15 AIRCRAFT PER YEAR WHICH... |
| 00:41:30 |
|
WE NEED TO GET THESE NEW TANKERS AND IT'S TOO BAD WE'VE LOST SO MUCH TIME BECAUSE OF THE FIASCO SURROUNDING... |
| 00:41:45 |
|
DID THE AIR FORCE CONSIDER THE IMPACT, INDUSTRIAL CAPACITY? THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION, WE PRODUCED... |
| 00:42:05 |
|
NO, SIR. INDUSTRIAL CAPACITY WAS NOT PART OF THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. IT IS NOT PART OF THE FEDERAL... |
| 00:42:23 |
|
MR. DICKS? |
| 00:42:29 |
|
WAS THE FACT THAT THE A-330 RECEIVED LAUNCH AID, WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF THE WTO REGULATIONS AND THAT... |
| 00:42:52 |
|
SUBSIDIES ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITHIN THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE WTO ... |
| 00:43:36 |
|
DON'T YOU THINK IT'S UNFAIR, THOUGH? GOING BACK TO JUST THE FAIRNESS OF THIS, AND YOU'VE DONE YOUR... |
| 00:43:48 |
|
ABSOLUTELY. |
| 00:43:52 |
|
AND WHAT WORRIES ME IS THAT IF WE DON'T TAKE SUBSIDY INTO ACCOUNT, THEN IT ALLOWS THE FOREIGN COMPETITOR... |
| 00:44:53 |
|
WELL, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE KC-X WERE APPROVED BY THE JOINT REQUIREMENTS... |
| 00:45:19 |
|
I SAID ADDITIONAL EVALUATION CRITERIA FOR AIRLIFT? |
| 00:45:21 |
|
NO, SIR. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY ADDITIONAL EVALUATION CRITERIA ADDED FOR AIRLIFT. AS A MATTER OF... |
| 00:45:31 |
|
THERE WAS NO REAL -- ON AIRLIFT THERE WAS NO REAL REQUIREMENT IN THE DOCUMENT FOR AIRLIFT, ISN'T THAT... |
| 00:45:44 |
|
THERE WERE NINE KEY PERFORMANCE PARAMETERS. GO AHEAD. |
| 00:45:53 |
|
YES, SIR, I'LL TALK ABOUT AIRLIFT CAPABILITY. THERE ARE NINE KEY PERFORMANCE PARAMETERS. THEY ARE... |
| 00:47:26 |
|
YES. BUT NOW THE PROBLEM I HAVE HERE IS THAT YOU MADE SOME CHANGES IN THIS RIGHT AT THE END AND BOEING... |
| 00:50:25 |
|
CONGRESSMAN DICKS, IF I COULD INDULGE ON TERRY KASTEN TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO OUR RATING... |
| 00:50:37 |
|
THANK YOU. |
| 00:50:38 |
|
THANK YOU, MA'AM. SIR, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS SINCE THE RFP WENT OUT. THE THINGS... |
| 00:50:56 |
|
AND BOEING OBJECTED SERIOUSLY TO YOU'RE DOING IT AND WE'RE TOLD IF THEY DIDN'T GO ALONG THAT THE AIR... |
| 00:51:06 |
|
SIR, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. |
| 00:51:07 |
|
THAT WAS WHAT COMMUNICATED TO THEM AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME. |
| 00:51:10 |
|
THAT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED -- |
| 00:51:11 |
|
THAT'S WHY YOU SAID WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. I CAN REMEMBER WAY... |
| 00:52:49 |
|
I THINK THE MEMBER HAS GOTTEN HIS POINT ACROSS. |
| 00:52:52 |
|
I DO BUT JUST ONE CHANCE AT AN ANSWER AND I'LL SHUT UP. |
| 00:52:58 |
|
IF I COULD RESPOND TO THE GENERAL'S COMMENTS. HIS COMMENTS WERE IN RELATION TO THE KC-135. NOT IN... |
| 00:53:15 |
|
WHY DON'T YOU HAVE HIM STANDING UP THERE? |
| 00:53:17 |
|
BECAUSE HE IS THE CUSTOMER FOR AIR MOBILITY COMMAND. HE IS THE CUSTOMER THAT WE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS... |
| 00:53:28 |
|
SHOULDN'T YOU HAVE ASKED IF THEY WANTED A BIGGER PLANE? SHOULDN'T YOU HAVE DONE THAT FIRST? |
| 00:53:35 |
|
WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM AIR MOBILITY COMMAND ON THE SOURCE SELECTION TEAM. WE FOLLOWED ALL OF... |
| 00:54:01 |
|
THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. |
| 00:54:08 |
|
I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GETTING AN ANSWER TO WHAT MR. DICKS IS SUGGESTING ABOUT THE CHANGES DURING THE... |
| 00:54:27 |
|
THERE WERE NO CHANGES MADE TO THE REQUIREMENTS ORTHOPEDIC THE EVALUATION CRITERIA OF THIS RFP AFTER... |
| 00:54:42 |
|
BUT THE CHANGES I SUGGESTED MADE IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT TO BOTH PARTIES, I'VE GOT THE LETTER... |
| 00:55:07 |
|
SIR, I ALWAYS ANSWER TRUTHFULLY. |
| 00:55:10 |
|
THANK YOU. |
| 00:55:12 |
|
AS I STARTED TO SAY, NO REQUIREMENTS CHANGES SINCE THE RFP WENT OUT FROM MY RECOLLECTION. |
| 00:55:17 |
|
WHAT ABOUT THE CHANGES I MENTIONED, THE ONES I READ TO YOU? WERE THESE -- WERE THESE THINGS CHANGED?... |
| 00:55:26 |
|
THOSE WERE AS PART OF THE RFP DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND WE DISCUSSED THOSE ARE THE OFFERS AND NOTIFIED... |
| 00:55:34 |
|
THAT YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES? |
| 00:55:39 |
|
THE SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF THE DRAFT RFP AS WE SENT THESE OUT. |
| 00:55:43 |
|
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A LETTER FOR THE RECORD -- WAIT JUST A MINUTE. |
| 00:55:49 |
|
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHAT HE'S SAYING IS CHANGE WAS MADE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE AIRBUS AFTER THE RFP.... |
| 00:56:15 |
|
NOT THAT I RECALL. |
| 00:56:17 |
|
JANUARY 30th. THE RFP WAS RELEASED, THE DRAFT RFP WELL BEFORE THAT TO COORDINATE BOTH OFFERS. |
| 00:56:23 |
|
SO IT'S FULLY POSSIBLE THAT BEFORE THE RFP WAS FINALIZED THAT YOU MAY HAVE MADE CHANGES IN ORDER TO... |
| 00:56:36 |
|
OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE QUESTION FOR THE RECORD SO THAT I CAN COME BACK WITH THE DETAILS OF... |
| 00:56:53 |
|
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M ASKING DID ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE CHANGED COULD HAVE BEEN... |
| 00:57:07 |
|
I'M NOT WILLING TO SAY THAT CHANGES WERE MADE TO ACCOMMODATE AIRBUS. I AM NOT WILLING TO SAY THAT... |
| 00:57:25 |
|
THERE IS TREMENDOUS PRESSURE FROM AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE SENATE TO GET COMPETITION. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.... |
| 00:58:03 |
|
I'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION FOR THE RECORD. I'M SORRY. |
| 00:58:07 |
|
DO YOU SEE THE DILEMMA WE'RE PUT IN? |
| 00:58:08 |
|
ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY, BUT I WILL TELL YOU -- |
| 00:58:13 |
|
WE HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RIGHT DECISION IS MADE. THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. |
| 00:58:17 |
|
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE THREE THINGS I'VE ENCOURAGED THE AIR FORCE TEAM TO ALWAYS CONSIDER.... |
| 00:58:30 |
|
I UNDERSTAND THAT. |
| 00:58:31 |
|
THIS IS DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW. |
| 00:58:34 |
|
PRESSURE PUT ON FOR COMPETITION IN THIS PARTICULAR ENDEAVOR. MR. HOBBS? |
| 00:58:47 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A GOOD RESPECT FOR BOTH YOU AND THE GENERAL AND YOUR STAFF. YOU HAVE... |
| 00:59:01 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 00:59:03 |
|
BUT I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM WITH YOUR DECISION, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER JOB, TOO, THAT APPARENTLY IS NOT... |
| 01:00:33 |
|
LET ME SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I VIEW NORTHROP GRUMMAN AS AN AMERICAN COMPANY. I VIEW... |
| 01:00:47 |
|
YOU VIEW EADS AS AN AMERICAN COMPANY? |
| 01:00:51 |
|
I VIEW THE FOLKS IN MOBILE, ALABAMA, AND MELBOURNE, FLORIDA, AS AMERICANS. BUT THAT DID NOT ENTER... |
| 01:02:29 |
|
WELL, WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT, THEY BROUGHT AN AIRPLANE THAT HAS NOT FLOWN TO ITS CAPABILITY. IT DOESN'T... |
| 01:03:29 |
|
THERE ARE SOME FALSE ASSUMPTIONS. I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE SOME FALSE ASSUMPTIONS IN YOUR STATEMENT.... |
| 01:03:39 |
|
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN WE'RE COMPARING APPLES -- APPARENTLY NOT APPLES TO APPLES... |
| 01:04:52 |
|
THE AIR FORCE LOOKED AT AN INTEGRATED ASSESSMENT OF ALL FIVE OF THE FACTORS THAT DROVE THE DECISION... |
| 01:05:15 |
|
YOU KEEP SAYING NORTHROP GRUMMAN -- YOU KEEP SAYING THE NORTHROP GRUMMAN PROPOSAL. |
| 01:05:19 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 01:05:20 |
|
IT IS NOT -- IS THAT THE TITLE IN IT? I THOUGHT THE TITLE WAS -- WHEN I KEEP READING IT, IT'S THE... |
| 01:05:31 |
|
THE PRIME CONTRACTOR IS NORTHROP GRUMMAN. THE PRIME CONTRACTOR IS BOEING. |
| 01:05:39 |
|
WHERE DO THE PROFITS GO IN THIS? HOW MUCH OF THE PROFIT FROM THIS DEAL RESIDES IN THIS COUNTRY VERSUS... |
| 01:06:06 |
|
SIR, THERE WERE NO LAWS -- |
| 01:06:08 |
|
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA. |
| 01:06:12 |
|
I DIDN'T ASK YOU WHAT THE LAW -- I ASKED YOU WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T TAKE... |
| 01:06:18 |
|
WE DID NOT TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT, SIR. |
| 01:06:21 |
|
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. SO THERE ARE THINGS IN HERE THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT... |
| 01:06:32 |
|
WE COULD NOT TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE CRITERIA THAT... |
| 01:07:03 |
|
I KNOW. AND I KNOW AFTER ALL YOUR PROBLEMS THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO SCRUB EVERYTHING YOU COULD ON THIS... |
| 01:07:47 |
|
WE HAVE TO GO TO THE LAW. |
| 01:07:48 |
|
I APPRECIATE THAT. |
| 01:07:49 |
|
THANK YOU. |
| 01:07:50 |
|
I HAVE NO QUESTION OF YOUR INTEGRITY. |
| 01:07:52 |
|
THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT. |
| 01:07:55 |
|
THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. MR. MORAN? |
| 01:08:03 |
|
FIRST OF ALL, MISS PAYTON, WHEN THE CHAIRMAN LAST YEAR ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO THE ACQUISITION PROCUREMENT... |
| 01:08:29 |
|
THANK YOU, SIR. |
| 01:08:30 |
|
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D EVER MET YOU BEFORE. I NEVER THOUGHT I'D HAVE REASON TO... |
| 01:09:06 |
|
THANK YOU, SIR. |
| 01:09:07 |
|
I WAS A LITTLE DISTURBED, FRANKLY, AT THE IMPLICATION WHEN -- I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS GENTLEMAN TO YOUR... |
| 01:12:29 |
|
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD. |
| 01:12:31 |
|
WHY DON'T YOU FIND THAT OUT? |
| 01:12:33 |
|
MORE DETAIL -- IF SO, HOW MUCH. |
| 01:12:36 |
|
THE CONTRACTS HAD SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WERE NOT -- FOR BOTH AIRCRAFT. |
| 01:12:54 |
|
FOREIGN MANUFACTURERS, EXACTLY. THE POTENTIAL RETALIATION IF WE WERE TO DENY THIS CONTRACT, WHAT ... |
| 01:14:21 |
|
AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT A DUAL PROCUREMENT I ASKED MR. KASTEN TO GO LOOK AT HOW THAT WOULD... |
| 01:15:04 |
|
SO PRIMARILY A COST CONSIDERATION TO GO ON DUAL TRACKS? |
| 01:15:08 |
|
YES, SIR, YES, SIR. TERRY, IS THERE ANY MORE? [ INAUDIBLE ] |
| 01:15:20 |
|
PROVIDE THAT HAD TO HER PRIOR TO -- WE LOOKED AT ALL THAT, PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO MISS PAYTON... |
| 01:15:36 |
|
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS MY COLLEAGUES, ACTUALLY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE POLITICAL MOTIVATION... |
| 01:16:35 |
|
WOULD THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? |
| 01:16:38 |
|
I'LL YIELD -- I MENTIONED ONE CRITICAL AND ONE POSITIVE. I'LL YIELD TO YOU IN A MOMENT, MR. DICKS.... |
| 01:16:45 |
|
THANK YOU. |
| 01:16:47 |
|
AGAIN, IF WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING ALL OF OUR ALLIES AS... |
| 01:17:06 |
|
I JUST WOULD SAY TO THE GENTLEMAN, WHO I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT -- |
| 01:17:10 |
|
AND YOU KNOW IT'S MUTUAL. |
| 01:17:11 |
|
AND WORKED WITH OVER MANY YEARS, I WOULD JUST SAY TO HIM BOTH MR. TIAHRT HAVE APPROACHED THIS IN A... |
| 01:17:40 |
|
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TIME AND THE ENERGY BUT I HAVE TO SAY YOU DON'T REMIND WITNESSES TO TELL THE... |
| 01:17:50 |
|
THE TIME OF THE GENTLEMAN HAS EXPIRED. MR. TIAHRT. |
| 01:17:54 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. TO GO BACK... |
| 01:18:24 |
|
THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO SEE THAT. |
| 01:18:26 |
|
WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT. |
| 01:18:28 |
|
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MENTION ONE MORE TIME THAT THIS LAUREN B. THOMPSON WAS -- THE INFORMATION... |
| 01:19:46 |
|
WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD IF WE COULD SO DO. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. |
| 01:19:50 |
|
THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. |
| 01:19:54 |
|
WILL THE GENTLEMAN YIELD? MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE GETTING SO MANY TAKING QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD AND... |
| 01:20:19 |
|
RECLAIMING MY TIME. TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THIS PUTS AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS AT A HUGE DISADVANTAGE,... |
| 01:21:13 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 01:21:14 |
|
OKAY. WHAT YOU HAVE CAME UP WITH, THOUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE AIRPLANE, YOU'RE REPLACING... |
| 01:21:53 |
|
I'LL TURN THAT QUESTION TO MR. KASTEN, BUT, YES, WE DID. |
| 01:21:58 |
|
YES, WE DID. WE LOOKED AT ALL THE OFFERS, IDENTIFIED THE MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAD IN SUBS AND... |
| 01:22:08 |
|
DID YOU CHOOSE THE PROGRAMS USING THE CRITERIA OR DID YOU ONLY CHOOSE FROM A LIST THAT THAT WAS PRESENTED... |
| 01:22:17 |
|
OKAY. SO YOU CHOSE SOME OF THESE AND ASKED FOR SOME FOR EVALUATION? |
| 01:22:22 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 01:22:23 |
|
DID YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHT UTILITY HELICOPTER IN THIS PERFORMANCE? |
| 01:22:26 |
|
SIR, I CAN'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT WE LOOKED AT. |
| 01:22:30 |
|
IF YOU HAD, YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THEY MADE A PROPOSAL AND IT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE ARMY ON... |
| 01:24:16 |
|
THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO CONGRESS AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY. |
| 01:24:19 |
|
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. |
| 01:24:22 |
|
SIR, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THESE QUESTIONS WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE SOURCE SELECTION SENSITIVE,... |
| 01:25:14 |
|
YOU CAME UP WITH AN APPLES AND ORANGES COMPARISON BECAUSE YOU HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR THE KC-135 WITH... |
| 01:25:36 |
|
I THINK YOU HAVE A FALSE ASSUMES IN THAT LAST STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS... |
| 01:25:43 |
|
OKAY. MY QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE LOW TEST COST FOR ALL 179 AIRPLANES IN EACH PHASE OF THAT? I'M... |
| 01:25:56 |
|
WE WILL RELEASE THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN. HOWEVER, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE NEED TO AT THIS POINT... |
| 01:26:03 |
|
LET ME ASK A QUESTION. WHEN WILL YOU BRIEF THE CONTRACTORS AND WHEN CAN WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION WHERE... |
| 01:26:10 |
|
WE ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO BRIEF BOEING ON FRIDAY AND WE ARE TRYING TO SCHEDULE THE NORTHROP GRUMMAN... |
| 01:26:23 |
|
TELL STAFF AND WE'LL HAVE A CLOSED BRIEFING FOR THE MEMBERS. |
| 01:26:26 |
|
YES, SIR. |
| 01:26:28 |
|
MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A TIMELY ISSUE. AS I LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CONGRESS... |
| 01:26:57 |
|
WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT YOU CAN WORK OUT. OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T BE PUTTING OUR BILL TOGETHER FOR A MONTH... |
| 01:27:16 |
|
YES, SIR. WILL DO. |
| 01:27:19 |
|
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I CONTINUE? |
| 01:27:20 |
|
WELL, LET'S GO TO SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS HERE. LET'S GO TO MR. CRAMER. |
| 01:27:25 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS I SAID AT THE OUTSET THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW THIS... |
| 01:29:05 |
|
YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK GERALD HUDSON IF THERE'S ANYTHING HE'D LIKE TO ADD TO... |
| 01:29:19 |
|
IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS WE USED AND THESE PACK TORS MENTIONED EARLIER. THERE... |
| 01:30:45 |
|
BUT IS THERE A WINNER AND LOSER IN EACH CATEGORY? |
| 01:30:51 |
|
WELL, WHAT WE DID WAS WE GAVE FOR ALL THOSE FIVE SUBFACTORS, EACH ONE OF THEM RECEIVED A COLOR CODE... |
| 01:32:42 |
|
AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS, ISN'T THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TEAMS TO COME IN AND DEFEND THEIR... |
| 01:32:54 |
|
THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS. WE GOT PROPOSALS FROM EACH COMPETITOR COMPETITOR. WE DID WHAT WE CALL AN... |
| 01:33:37 |
|
WELL, BECAUSE TIME IS LIMITED FOR ME ANYWAY, THE ISSUE OF THE SIZE OF THE TANKER AND WHETHER BOEING... |
| 01:33:54 |
|
WELL, SIR, EACH COMPETITOR HAD TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT TO SUBMIT IN THE PROPOSAL, IN THEIR PROPOSAL,... |
| 01:34:17 |
|
IN ANY OF WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED, DO YOU EVALUATE ECONOMIC IMPACT WITHIN THE UNITED STATES? JOBS WITHIN... |
| 01:34:28 |
|
WELL, AS MISS PAYTON MENTIONED EARLIER, SIR, WE -- EACH PROPOSAL HAD TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PROVISIONS... |
| 01:34:48 |
|
DID YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MANY SUPPLIER COMPANIES WOULD BE INVOLVED IF A TEAM WINS? |
| 01:34:56 |
|
WELL, WE KNOW INSIDE THE PROPOSAL EACH COMPETITOR DESCRIBED THEIR SUPPLIER CHAINS. |
| 01:35:03 |
|
BY NAME? |
| 01:35:04 |
|
BY NAME. WHO WOULD MAKE THE AVIONICS OR THE OTHER UNIQUE THINGS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE AIRPLANE. ... |
| 01:35:20 |
|
AND ONE LAST QUESTION. WITHIN THE CATEGORIES YOU'VE DESCRIBED, WHERE IS IT THAT -- YOU WANT THIS TANKER... |
| 01:35:35 |
|
WELL, WE -- |
| 01:35:37 |
|
THE CAPABILITY? |
| 01:35:41 |
|
SIR, WE -- WE DO NOT MANDATE A SPECIFIC TIME FOR AN INITIAL OPERATIONAL CAPABILITY. IN OTHER WORDS... |
| 01:35:58 |
|
AND THEN YOU EVALUATE ONE AGAINST THE OTHER BASED ON WHAT THEY -- |
| 01:36:03 |
|
WELL, SIR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT WAS ATTACHED WITH SCHEDULE, SO NEITHER GOT -- |
| 01:36:10 |
|
WHY NOT? |
| 01:36:12 |
|
WELL, BECAUSE THE INTEREST WAS THAT WE GET A RISK PRUDENT SCHEDULE FROM EACH COMPETITOR, AND WE WANTED... |
| 01:36:44 |
|
BUT THEN YOU REACT TO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING AND WHAT THE SCHEDULE WILL BE THEY SUBMIT... |
| 01:36:50 |
|
YES, SIR. AND WE EVALUATE THAT. WE LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY BOTH, LOOKED AT THE... |
| 01:37:22 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
| 01:37:25 |
|
WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND IT'LL BE ABOUT AN HOUR OF VOTING, SO WE WANT TO TRY TO LIMIT THE OTHER... |
| 01:37:37 |
|
DO YOU HAVE -- YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A BATTERY, A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. CAN YOU DESCRIBE... |
| 01:37:49 |
|
YES, SIR. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A SOURCE SELECTION EVALUATION TEAM. THAT'S COMPRISED OF APPROXIMATELY,... |
| 01:38:46 |
|
THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE A TEAM OF WELL OVER 100 PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE AIR FORCE, FROM AROUND THE... |
| 01:39:16 |
|
IT'S A SERIES OF MICRO DECISIONS THAT MAKE UP THE TIPPING POINT TOWARDS THE ULTIMATE DECISION, CORRECT?... |
| 01:39:24 |
|
YES. |
| 01:39:26 |
|
AND IT'S NOT A VOTE. IS THERE EVER A VOTE IN THE PROCESS? IT'S JUST MOSTLY A GRADUAL MICRO DECISION... |
| 01:39:35 |
|
YES, SIR. AT MY LEVEL THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE VERY MUCH TELL THE TEAMS DOING THE EVALUATION, DON'T EVEN... |
| 01:40:13 |
|
BUT IF CONGRESS -- BECAUSE -- AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR ISSUE IS NOT JOBS OR THE INDUSTRIAL BASE OR SOME... |
| 01:40:34 |
|
THAT WOULD BE TOUGH TO SPECULATE, SIR, ON. |
| 01:40:41 |
|
I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL IMPACT ACQUISITION... |
| 01:41:08 |
|
THAT PROCESS THAT'S REGULATED ACCORDING TO THE LAW, WAS THAT DEVELOPED OR PASSED BY A LEGISLATIVE... |
| 01:41:19 |
|
YES, SIR, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS -- |
| 01:41:21 |
|
BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE THE JOBS OR THE INDUSTRIAL BASE INTO CONSIDERATION, DOES IT? |
| 01:41:25 |
|
NO, SIR, IT DOES NOT. |
| 01:41:26 |
|
IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD REVISIT AT SOME POINT? |
| 01:41:37 |
|
WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I'M REALLY NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT AT THIS TIME EITHER. I THINK THAT IT'S... |
| 01:42:13 |
|
IF YOU WERE TO FIND OUT -- MR. TIAHRT ASKED YOU A QUESTION ABOUT -- BECAUSE WE DON'T REMEMBER ALL... |
| 01:42:37 |
|
SIR, I REALLY DO HAVE TO TAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I AM UNDER THE DEFENSE FEDERAL ACQUISITION... |
| 01:42:54 |
|
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE TWO TASKS FOR THE CONGRESS AND... |
| 01:46:32 |
|
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME THANK THE PANEL FOR THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT... |
| 01:49:00 |
|
I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN HAS SAID. I WANT TO SAY THIS. NONE OF US DISPUTE THE INTEGRITY OF... |
| 01:49:19 |
|
I DO. |
| 01:49:20 |
|
WITH THE SHIPS, THEY ANNOUNCE WHERE THE SHIPS ARE GOING SO THIS IS PART OF IT AND WE HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY.... |
| 01:49:54 |
|
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN I SPOKE EARLIER, THE CHANGES WERE IN THE INTEGRATED FLEET AERIAL RE-ASSESSMENT... |
| 01:51:01 |
|
I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE REFERRING TO SOMETHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE MODEL AND THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN... |
| 01:51:09 |
|
NO, THIS IS 2008. THE OTHER ONE I TALKED ABOUT WAS CHANGES IN THE AIRLIFT EVALUATION. THAT WAS THE... |
| 01:51:18 |
|
AND WE HAVE TAKEN AN ACTION TO BRING YOU BACK THE TIME LINE ON ANY CHANGES BUT I'D LIKE GERALD HUDSON... |
| 01:51:31 |
|
SO WE HAVE TWO CHANGES, ONE IN '07 AND ONE IN '08. |
| 01:51:37 |
|
NO, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CHANGES IN REQUIREMENT BUT I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY WHAT WENT ON WITH THE MODEL... |
| 01:51:45 |
|
SIR, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE IFARA MODEL AND THE PROCESS WE USED. THE MODEL HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE... |
| 01:52:39 |
|
THIS IS FACTOR FIVE, ISN'T IT? |
| 01:52:41 |
|
YES, SIR, IT IS. FACTOR FIVE. |
| 01:52:43 |
|
I THINK YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT VERY WELL. MR. TIAHRT, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? |
| 01:52:48 |
|
I HOPE WE CAN MAKE THIS TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THE AIR FORCE... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
RELATED PROGRAMS
DETAILS
PEOPLE GRID LIST
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Young, C.W. "Bill"
U.S. Representative (Former) [R] 8 -
-
-
-
-
Lewis, Jerry
U.S. Representative (Former) [R] 37
PURCHASE
-
- Price:
- Media Format:
- DVD