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A DISCUSSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION IN IRAN. THE U.S. COMMISSION ON INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM... |
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PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONES. GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR COMING. I SERVED AS CHAIR OF THE U.S.... |
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IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY. I AM ALSO PLEASED TO HAVE-- I AM PLEASED YOU HAVE GATHERED SUCH... |
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THANK YOU, AMBASSADOR. WE APPRECIATE THAT. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I WOULD... |
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IN GENERAL WE THE UP TO THEM WHETHER THEY WANT TO PUBLICIZE OUR SUPPORT OR NOT. IN GENERAL, THEY DO... |
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THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. . IRAN AND OUTSIDE IRAN? |
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IF YOU LOOK AT A -- BUT INTERNATIONALLY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS ANY GOVERNMENT, AND I SAY GOVERNMENT... |
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I AM NOT RIGHT NOW TODAY AWARE OF THE ANSWER THE QUESTION. WE DO NOT HAVE A GREAT STATISTICS ON THINGS... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIEWS. I WANTED TO PURSUE THIS QUESTION OF WHETHER THE --... |
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THANK YOU, DOCTOR. I'M GOING TO DEFER SOME OF THIS TO THE INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION'S HERO OF THE... |
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TURN YOUR MIKE ON. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US, AMBASSADOR, THIS MORNING. I GUESS YOU ARE NOT HERE WHEN THE IRANIAN... |
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I CERTAINLY FOLLOWED THE DEBATE IN LEBANON. IN THE BONDS YOU GET A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON IRAN'S DESTABILIZING... |
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"GOD WILLING, WE SHALL SOON EXPERIENCE A WORLD IN THE UNITED -- WITHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND ASSIGNED... |
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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AS I SAID, WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT WAYS AND TOOLS AND IDEAS AND CREATIVITY... |
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THANK YOU, MR. AMBASSADOR, AND YOUR RECORD ON COMMITMENT TO A RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WE AFFIRMED. A COUPLE... |
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I DO NOT WANT TO MINIMIZE THE RISKS OF PEOPLE WORKING WITH US IN OUR LAND. I DO NOT WANT TO MINIMIZE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. AND FOR MAKING TIME TO BE WITH US. I AM INTRIGUED BY... |
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THE SHORT ANSWER TO QUESTION IS YES. IN IRAQ, THE ISSUE IS THIS -- IN IRAN, THE ISSUES SYSTEMATIC ... |
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TURN ON YOUR MIKE, PLEASE. |
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THANK YOU, MR. AMBASSADOR. SOME SAY THAT U.S. FOREIGN POLICY HAS STRENGTHENED RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN... |
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COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. I DO NOT THINK THERE IS ANY COUNTRY -- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. IRAN IS ONE... |
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WE HAVE THREE MORE QUESTIONS. |
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THANK YOU, AMBASSADOR. UNDERSECRETARY BRANDS LAST YEAR IN TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS... |
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THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS. THE BASIC MESSAGE OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE INTERNATIONAL... |
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COMMISSIONER LAND. |
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HAS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT'S DECISION LAST YEAR TO HAVE A DIRECT TALKS WITH IRAN ON THE SECURITY IN IRAQ... |
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THE DISCUSSIONS WITH IRAN CARRIED OUT BY OUR EMBASSY IN BAGHDAD SO FAR DEAL WITH A DISTORTION IN IRAN.... |
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WE HAVE ABOUT TWO MORE MINUTES IN THIS PANEL. |
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I WANTED TO PURSUE THIS ISSUE OF THE DIRECT TALKS. WITH THE NOBLE AIMS OF U.S. HUMAN RIGHTS POLICY,... |
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I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS ANY DOUBT ABOUT WHAT OUR VIEWS ARE. SURELY THE IRANIANS HAVE HEARD US, EVEN... |
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, SIR. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOU COMING. |
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THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. |
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WE HAVE OUR SECOND PANEL BEGIN IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES. @@@@@@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @... |
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I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION VERY MUCH FOR ASKING ME TO TESTIFY ABOUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC,... |
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THANK YOU. DOCTOR? THANK YOU FOR COMING. |
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THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY AND TALK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE. I... |
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THANK YOU, DR. MALONEY. YOU'RE NOT TAKING QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. FIRST, YOU INTERVIEWED THE... |
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I SAID I'M NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST, AND I HAVE SPENT PERHAPS 90 MINUTES WITH THE MID 2005 AND SAW HIM AGAIN... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THESE WERE INTERESTING PRESENTATIONS. I WANTED TO PURSUE HER OBSERVATION THAT... |
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THE SECOND QUESTION FIRST -- THERE DEFINITELY IS. IT BRINGS AMERICAN -- IRANIAN CLERICS YEAR AND BRINGS... |
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COMMISSIONER? |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANOTHER REVIEW ADDRESSED -- NEITHER OF YOU ADDRESS THE PHENOMENON ABOUT THE STRONG... |
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I WILL START AND THEN SHIFT OVER TO BARBARA. IN TERMS OF PRO-AMERICAN SENTIMENT, I DO NOT THINK YOU... |
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HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? |
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I THINK IT IS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FACTORS. I WOULD NOT SAY THAT IT IS A MAJORITY ASSENT OR ENDORSEMENT... |
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A LOT OF THIS IS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. THERE ARE POLLS. I REMEMBER GOING IN 2001 AFTER THE FALL OF THE... |
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5 MORE MINUTES IN THIS SESSION AND FIVE COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO ASK QUESTION. IF WE COULD BE CONCISE,... |
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR FINE TESTIMONY. BARBARA, I HAVE BEEN QUITE ENGAGED WITH YOUR ARTICLE -- PUBLISH... |
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MOST OF THE STEPS ARE IN MY TESTIMONY, I JUST ADDED THE ONE ABOUT REPORTERS WHICH WOULD BE GREAT.... |
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VERY QUICKLY, I AGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT SHE SAID. THE OTHER THING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE... |
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THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR COMING. THE BOOK TALKING YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT ONE OF TWO... |
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N ANY EVENT, THE POINT IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COUNTRIES IN THE REGION WHICH HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT... |
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QUICKLY, NO ONE IS SAYING THE U.S. SHOULD GIVE UP ITS MILITARY TOOLS OF CONTAINMENT AND PRESSURE.... |
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ECHO WHAT SHE SAID. I DO NOT THINK THE DIALOGUE HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT, BUT IT IS HARD TO SEE AND HOW... |
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WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE MORE MINUTES@@@@@@@@ ),'@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @... |
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LET ME GIVE A COUPLE OF QUICK REMARKS. POWER RESIDES ULTIMATELY WITH THE SUPREME LEADER, BUT THIS IS... |
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I COMPARED TO AN AMERICAN SQUARE DANCE. THE SUPREME LEADER IS IN THE MIDDLE, AND AROUND HIM ARE SENIOR... |
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TELL US THE NAME OF YOUR BOOK AGAIN? |
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"BETTER FRIENDS, BITTER ENEMIES." -- BOSOM FRIENDS, BITTER ENEMIES." THANK YOU. |
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THANK YOU. I ENJOYED YOUR COMMENTS AND CONSTRUCTIVE THOUGHTS. HERE IS MY QUESTION. DENYING THE RELIGIOUS... |
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ONE THING YOU COULD POINT OUT IS AHMADINEJAD IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SUNNI ARAB CAUSES, AND PERHAPS... |
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TRIED TO FIND MEANS -- TRY TO FIND WAYS TO ENGAGE WITH IRANIANS. I KNOW THEY WERE ENGAGED WHEN HE... |
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YOU HAVE THE LAST QUESTION. |
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YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULD BE HAPPY TO COVER THE SHORTCOMING OF DEMOCRACY PROGRAMS. BOTH OF YOU HAVE... |
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I WILL LET SUZANNE GO TO THIS. IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE PROGRAMS, IT IS THE CONTEXT HOSTILITY AND THREATS... |
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THE CONTEXT IS A PROBLEM, BUT THE WAY THAT THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN UNDERTAKEN AND SPECIFICALLY MY EXPERIENCE... |
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IT IS NOT JUST THE CONTEXT. IF AN ADMINISTRATION WERE TO COME IN AND CHANGE THEIR RHETORIC, THE DEMOCRACY... |
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IT IS HARD TO DO THESE THINGS. WHEN ALL THAT CREDIBLE ACTORS ON THE IRANIAN SIDE DO NOT WANT A PART... |
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HA BRIEF COMMENT. |
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I WANTED TO RESPOND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHETHER WE ENGAGED -- WE DID ASK TO MEET AND SPEAK WITH PEOPLE... |
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OK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN TESTIMONY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL HAVE OUR NEXT PANEL AND ABOUT... |
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WELCOME AGAIN. WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS THE CO- FOUNDER OF THE... |
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THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OF THIS -- MR. CHAIRMAN, FORIT IS... |
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I'M AWARE THAT THOSE OF A REALIST PERSUASION MAY DISMISS THIS THEME AND THESE PROPOSALS AS A NAIVE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOCTOR IS THE CO-FOUNDER OF THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF HUMAN RIGHTS... |
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THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE AND GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. THIS IS A FIRST... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DR. PAUL MARSHALL IS A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE HUDSON INSTITUTE IN WASHINGTON. ... |
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, MR. CHAIRMAN. -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IN MY REMARKS, I WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE... |
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THESE ARE. -- VITALLY IMPORTANT. @@ POLITICS AND RELIGION ARE INTERTWINED. YOU CANNOT HAVE POLITICAL... |
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THANK YOU, DR. MARSHAL AND THANK ALL OF OUR PANELISTS. WE'RE GOING TO GO OVERTIME FOR A FEW MINUTES.... |
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YES, A QUESTION I HAVE, IRAN, OBVIOUSLY HAS A RICH LEGAL AND HISTTORICAL CONSTITUTION. A COUPLE RELATED... |
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IF YOU COULD EACH ANSWER IT WITH LESS THAN ONE MINUTE. WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? |
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WELL, IN LESS THAN ONE MINUTE, YES, IRAN HAS A RICH, LEGAL HISTORY, THERE HAS BEEN A REGRESSION. ... |
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AGAIN, IN A VERY SHORT TIME, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX QUESTION. THERE IS NO MIRACLE SOLUTION THAT IRANIAN... |
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IF I MAY JUST ADD ON THAT. IN TERMS OF DEMOCRACY PROMOTION. MANY PEOPLE HAVE ARGUED IT'S THE USE OF... |
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QUICKLY. |
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YES. I THINK ONE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU ENGAGE THE IRANIAN LEADERSHIP... |
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MR. GAER, WE NEED TO BE -- GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER GAER. |
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THANK YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT WE SEE AND WHAT WE DON'T SEE. I WANTED TO PICK UP ON THE... |
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IF I MAY, THE PROBLEM IS U.S. SUPPORT CAN MEAN SO MANY THINGS AND WE NEED TO CALIBRATE WHAT WE MEAN... |
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WELL, I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATES OR SAYING THAT THE U.S. SUPPORT... |
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THANK YOU. I COULD PRETEND TO SPEAK FOR ALL THE RELIGIOUS MINORITY GROUPS IN IRARAN, BUT IF I MAY... |
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THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN TELL, I THINK YOU CAN TELL THE SUCCESS OF A HEARING IS WHEN... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
