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LET ME SAY A FAILURE TO ACT WOULD BE DEVASTATING, THE UNITED STATES IS AT A CROSSROADS, THE FUTURE... |
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MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS STEVE HEMINGER, THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR THE... |
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I'M GOING TO INTER CREED TO SAY YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE QUITE RIGHT, I ANTICIPATED RECENTLY IN A EUROPEAN... |
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CHAIRMAN, I'M STEVE OTLAND. OFFICE DEPOT IS NEARLY A $16 BILLION OFFICE SUPPLY COMPANY, WE OPERATE... |
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COMMISSIONER BUSALACCHI. |
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THANK YOU JACK, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I'M FRANK BUSALACCHI, SECRETARY,... |
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CHAIRMAN OVERSTAR, RANKING MEMBER MICA, IT'S GOOD TO BE TESTIFYING. MOST OF YOU KNOW ME AS THE FREIGHT... |
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THANK YOU MATT. COMMISSIONER MCARDLE. |
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GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS FRANK MCARDLE, FORMER MANAGING DIRECTOR... |
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THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER QUINN. |
| 01:01:12 |
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THANK YOU JACK. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR HERE TODAY, I'M PAT QUINN,. AS A PARTICIPANT... |
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COMMISSIONER GETTIS? |
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THANK YOU. |
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COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS RICK GETTIS, I'M AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AND... |
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THANK YOU JACK. GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, RANKING MEMBER MICA, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME... |
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AND FINALLY, TO WRAP THINGS UP, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WEYRICH. |
| 01:13:43 |
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THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M PAUL WEYRICH, CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF THE FREE CONGRESS FOUNDATION. I SERVED... |
| 01:19:12 |
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THANK YOU. I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT MAY WELL BE A RECORD. WE HAVE HAD NEARLY A QUORUM OF... |
| 01:25:24 |
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FIRST OF ALL, I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND A NATIONAL STRATEGIC INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.... |
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I THINK INITIALLY, THE PLAN, THE NATIONAL STRATEGIC PLAN, WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.... |
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BUT THEN THE PART I QUESTION IS -- AND TO DATE THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR SETTING THE TAX OR THE FEE... |
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WELL, WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS THAT ONCE YOU TAKE THIS PLAN AND YOU GET THE COST ESTIMATES, ... |
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BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE -- YOU'RE NOT ADVOCATING THE COMMISSION ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ENACTING... |
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IT WOULD BE SENT TO THE CONGRESS FOR AN UP -- LIKE BRAC, AND FRANKLY, THAT PROPOSAL IS AN ATTEMPT... |
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OKAY. WELL, I THINK -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE ALL -- WELL, YOU IDENTIFIED THE NEED AND DID... |
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CONGRESSMAN, RANKING MEMBER MICA, WE DID NOT DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD SAVE. WHAT... |
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OKAY. |
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AND SO WE DID NOT ACTUALLY SAY HOW MUCH WE COULD SAVE, BUT IF YOU JUST TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF JUST ONE... |
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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT BEEN GOOD IN SUPPORTING IS BONDING AND TAKING... |
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YES. AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, WE VIEW TOLLING WHICH TYPICALLY ARE BONDING PROJECTS AND PUBLIC-PRIVATE... |
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WELL, AGAIN, I HAVE MY CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT DIMINISHES, AND AS IT DIMINISHES, IT KEEPS US SORT... |
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THANK THE GENTLEMAN. AND AMIDST ALL THE HANDWRITINGING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND... |
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THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST A QUICK -- A LITTLE BIT OFF THE TOPIC BUT MR. BASALACCHI WOULD BE INTERESTED... |
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CERTAINLY. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN,... |
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IN THIS CONSTRUCTION SEASON, YOU COULD LET CONTRACTS AND PUT PEOPLE TO WORK? |
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ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. |
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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. |
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: OF THESE SOLUTIONS COME WITHOUT PAIN AND THE GAS TAX SOLUTION, WHICH IS PART OF THE SOLUTION --... |
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RIGHT. I'D NOTE, AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR FURTHER COMMENT HERE BECAUSE I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED... |
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SURE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, MR. CONGRESSMAN ONE OF THE BEAUTY OF OUR ECONOMY IS ITS FLEXIBILITY. AND... |
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I'M NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO -- I WANT TO DEAL WITH HOW DO WE COME TO AN EQUITABLE POSITION HERE --... |
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MY BROTHER OWNS A SMALL BUSINESS IN BALTIMORE AND HAS -- BECAUSE OF CONGESTION IN THAT AREA HAS MOVED... |
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BUT WORKERS DIDN'T GET TO DETERMINE THAT, DID THEY? AND HE'S IN A FLEXIBLE OR OWNER OR MANAGER? |
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THEY GET A SHIFT TO WORK ON, IT'S THEIR PREFERENCE. AND I ASSUME HE COULD GO TO A THIRD SHIFT IF PEOPLE... |
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BUT USING CONGESTION PRICING, IF I MAY, TO MANAGE DEMAND, I WOULD CALL RATIONING. NOW WE KNOW RATIONING... |
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SURE. |
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I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO SO. IN TERMS OF YOUR TERMINOLOGY AT THE BEGINNING REGARDING RATIONING, KEEP IN... |
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. |
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RIGHT. |
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THERE'S A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT'S PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. |
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BUT INAPPROPRIATE TO APPLY -- TO SAY THIS IS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT. THAT IT'S -- THIS IS RATIONING AND... |
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BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC GOOD HERE. I MEAN, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING... |
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YES. KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF OTHER GOODS THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE PUBLIC UTILITIES... |
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I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP ELECTRICITY. YOU MUST BE AN ADVOCATE OF DEREGULATION. I'M ONE OF VERY FEW... |
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THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME IS EXPIRING, ALTHOUGH, HIS ENTHUSIASM IS NOT. [LAUGHTER] |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST AND PERHAPS MR. GEDDES CAN CONTINUE THIS IN ANOTHER VENUE. |
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I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. |
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THAT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE LIMITED APPLICABILITY FOR THIS FUNCTION,... |
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I'D JUST OBSERVE ON THAT LAST POINT OR DISCUSSION THAT QUEUING OR CONGESTION IS ANOTHER FORM OF RATIONING... |
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I THINK A NUMBER OF US MAY WANT TO RESPOND TO THIS. LET ME TAKE A QUICK FIRST CRACK AT A. THAT'S... |
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THANK YOU, JACK. I WOULD GIVE YOU, CONGRESSMAN, ONE EXAMPLE FROM CALIFORNIA WHERE YOU MAY BE AWARE... |
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WE GOT EVERYBODY HERE. [INAUDIBLE] |
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I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT TO ADD. I THINK IT'S AROUND TRANSPARENCY AND GOVERNANCE OF HOW THIS WOULD... |
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I'M GOING TO THANK THE MEMBERS. I KNOW OTHER COMMISSIONERS -- WE'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST VOTES ON THE... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND AGAIN, I WANT YOU CONGRATULATE YOU IN HAVING THE HEARING AND I WANT TO... |
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CONGRESSMAN, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IN OUR REPORT IS IDENTIFY AREAS FOR INVESTMENT OF GENUINE NATIONAL... |
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THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE YOU RECOGNIZE WHEN EISENHOWER PASSED THE FIRST HIGHWAY BILL, IT WAS... |
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I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE NATIONAL FREIGHT PROGRAM WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND THE NATIONAL RURAL ACCESS... |
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I THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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I ASSURE THE GENTLEMAN WE'RE GOING TO START PLANTING TREES. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DO WANT TO SALUTE YOU CALLING THIS HEARING SO QUICKLY ON RELEASE FROM THIS... |
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I MIGHT ALSO ADD, JACK, I HEARD YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS ANSWER NUMEROUS QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE... |
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BUT I ENJOYED EVERY COMMENT AND QUESTION, AND I KNOW YOU'VE ANSWERED NUMEROUS QUESTIONS FROM THE MEDIA... |
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THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT POINT. AND WE REALLY DID TAKE RURAL AMERICA INTO ACCOUNT IN THIS REPORT.... |
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JACK. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN ESPECIALLY FOR RAISING THAT POINT. I NOTE THAT POINT 4 IN THE TEN NEW FEDERAL... |
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THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. I THINK THE FORMER CHAIRMAN BUMPED MR. NADLER. I WELCOME BACK THEIR DAYS WHEN... |
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BUT I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S BREAKING THE MOLD AND MAKING OMLETS OR WHATEVER... |
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WE DID TALK ABOUT IT AND AND I THINK THE CONCLUSION THAT WE CAME TO WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE UNDERESTIMATE... |
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AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT. I RESPECTFULLY GROWAGREE. THE PRESSURE COMES FROM DONOR STATES IS PRETTY... |
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I THINK IN THE GASOLINE TAX IN THE INTERIM THAT THAT -- WE ARE PROPOSING TO SHIFT OVER TO A VEHICLE... |
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. MR. NADLER. BY THE WAY, WE HAVE 6 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING ON THIS VOTE AND 365... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. LET ME JUST BRIEFLY COMMENT ON THE DONOR/DONEE AND GET TO THE QUESTION I... |
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CONGRESSMAN, THAT'S A QUESTION WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN THIS FREIGHT RAIL STUDY WE DID IT'S THE FIRST... |
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IS IT ENVISIONED IN THE REPORT THAT THE -- THAT THIS COMMISSION OR WHATEVER IT IS UNDER THE FUNCTIONALITY... |
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YES. |
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MR. MIKCMULLINIKMCMULLIN THEY TRULY INTERCEPT IN THE METROPOLITAN AREAS WHERE WE NEED CRITICAL INVESTMENTS... |
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THANK YOU. |
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WE WILL RECESS THE COMMITTEE HEARING. WE HAVE SIX, POSSIBLY SOME VOTES ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. AND THAT... |
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SO THE COMMITTEE WILL RESUME ITS SETTING TO THE RECESS AT THE EXTENDED VOTES AND I APOLOGIZE TO OUR... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST BEFORE WE START THE QUESTIONING. I JUST NEEDED TO SAY WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ASSUMED THAT THERE WOULD BE DIFFICULTIES FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS GIVEN... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THANK OUR WITNESSES FOR YOUR EXCELLENT TESTIMONY EARLIER TODAY AND FOR... |
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CONGRESSMAN, WE GOT THAT IN TESTIMONY FROM THE NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS FROM... |
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HAS THERE BEEN A BREAKDOWN ON ANALYSIS, SPECIFICALLY, OF WHERE THE DELAYS DERIVE AND WHERE THE EXPENSES... |
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WE HAVE, CONGRESSMAN. IT'S ON PAGE 12 AND 13 OF OUR REPORT IN VOLUME 1 THAT OUTLINES THE PROCESS BY... |
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ONE OF OUR ISSUES HAS BEEN TO PROMOTE PARALLEL PROCESSING OF PERMITS RATHER THAN SERIAL PROCESSING.... |
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I THINK THAT OUR METROPOLITAN PLANNING -- OUR METROPOLITAN PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD... |
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STEVE? |
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CONGRESSMAN, I THINK THE IDEA WE HAD WITH THE METROPOLITAN MOBILITY PROGRAM AND VESTING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY... |
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AS POLICYMAKERS WHAT IT OFTEN LEAVES US TO DO IS SOMEBODY DECIDED WE WOULD BUILT X NEW DEVELOPMENT... |
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JACK DID TALK EARLIER ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO GO A LONG WAY TO RESTORE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD I BE INDULGED IN ONE LAST QUESTION. |
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I APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENT ON THE MERITS OF INVESTMENT IN MASS TRANSIT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT... |
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THE STREETCAR LINE IN PORTLAND ONLY 4.5 MILES HAS SPURRED $3.5 BILLION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BUT... |
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THAT WOULD BE PRACTICAL, PERMANENT AND PAID FOR. |
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AND I DARE SAY THAT THIS IS TRUE OF OTHER SYSTEMS BECAUSE MANY OF THEM HAVE ANOTHER BRANCH THAT, YOU... |
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I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT. |
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MR. McARDLE? |
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ONE MORE MINUTE BEFORE YOU PROCEED AND I'LL CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE HIM. FOLLOWING UP ON MR. BAIRD'S QUESTION,... |
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WELL, THEY OUGHT TO BE AND THEY ARE NOT. THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ANY OF THE POTENTIAL OF... |
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I WOULD SAY MR. WbuROSE TO ADDING A SECOND OR THIRD LINE ON FREIGHT MOVEMENT WOULD LOOK AT THE BENEFITS... |
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WE HAVE -- I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE DO PROJECTS. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER FOR US BECAUSE... |
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THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT. PLEASE PROCEED. |
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CONGRESSMAN, I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AS WELL TO WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NEW JERSEY GOLD COAST TO SEE THE... |
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OH, YES. |
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I WAS ON THE NEW YORK CITY SIDE OF THAT EQUATION AND WAS PUSHING AND MANAGING THOSE PROGRAMS FOR THE... |
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IT'S AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE AND INSOFAR AS PUBLIC TAX EXPEND USER ARE FUNGIBLE RELATIVE TO DIRECT... |
| 02:29:20 |
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MR. PETRI? |
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THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WELL, I GUESS, I'M REALLY SITTING THINKING APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE TREMENDOUSNESS... |
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I THANK THE GENTLEMAN. IT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL. I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF. MR. LARSON? |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HOPE YOU FIRST NOTICED AT LEAST ON THE SIDE OF THE AISLE ALL THE NORTHWEST... |
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THE WASHINGTON ORGANIZATION DELEGATIONS ARE WELL REPRESENTED AT THIS SECOND PART OF THE HEARING. ... |
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IT'S THE LACK OF TRAVEL. |
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AND THE LACK OF FLIGHTS OUT OF D.C. MORE THAN ANYTHING. |
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THEIR PLANES DON'T LEAVE AT 6:30. |
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WHERE'S NORTON? [LAUGHTER] NOTE AND PERHAPS FOR MR. SCHENENDORF, WASHINGTON STATE HAS THE LARGEST... |
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WELL, I THINK THAT THE -- I THINK THAT WE WOULD VIEW THAT AS BASICALLY BEING ELIGIBLE THE WAY IT IS... |
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OKAY. |
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THE CURRENT PROGRAM, YOU CAN FIND THEM REALLY EASY, THERE'S A FERRY PROGRAM, THERE'S A BUS PROGRAM,... |
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RIGHT. |
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-- NEW STARTS PROGRAM AND IT IS UNSETTLING WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND THEM RIGHT THERE IN NAME, BUT AS JACK... |
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I THINK EQUALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND NEW AREAS LOOKING AT FERRIES BECAUSE THE ROAD AND THE ABILITY... |
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YEAH, OKAY. MR. ROSE, YOU SORT OF HAD THE FREIGHT MOBILITY SECTION OF THE TESTIMONY. TWO QUESTIONS... |
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THE ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT... |
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IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN WASHINGTON STATE, AND THIS COULD ALSO BE IN OTHER STATES, I'LL JUST OBVIOUSLY... |
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WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF MODELS, BIG EXAMPLES OF BIG PROJECTS, ALMEDA CORRIDOR IS THE BEST EXAMPLE, MADE... |
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THANKS A LOT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. |
| 02:42:00 |
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I WOULD LIKE TO BIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO SOME ASPECTS OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE FIRST IS THE NATIONAL... |
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THE WAY WE ENVISION THIS HAPPEN AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, LET ME DESCRIBE THE STATE OF THE PROGRAM... |
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THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER AS FAR AS IT GOES. DOES THIS APPROACH ENVISION SCRAPPING THE STIP, STATE TRANSPORTATION... |
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THESE PLANS -- I TALKED ABOUT THE PLAN FOR ONE PROGRAM, BUT YOU'D HAVE PLANS FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS,... |
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ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WOULD INCLUDE IN THIS PLAN THE 162,000 MILES, ROUGHLY, OF OUR NHS, ANYTHING THAT'S... |
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RIGHT. |
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AND IN WISCONSIN, LET'S SAY, MR. BUSALACCHI IS NOT HERE, BUT SAY HIGHWAY 53 IN WISCONSIN, IF IT WERE... |
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THAT WOULD BE FUNDED ON A COST TO COMPLETE BASIS. WHATEVER IS IN THE PLAN TO MEET THE PERFORMANCE.... |
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BUT IF THE MILWAUKEE INTERCHANGE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE UPGRADE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.... |
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WELL, IF IT WERE NOT INCLUDED, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT. BUT THE PLAN IS BASED OFF THE STANDARD,... |
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THEN HOW DO YOU UPDATE THE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE CHANGING DEMANDS OF TRAFFIC? |
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I THINK IT'S ENVISIONED THAT THE PLAN WOULD BE UPDATED, WHETHER IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS OR EVERY FIVE... |
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AS WE DID PREVIOUSLY WITH THE INTERSTATE COST ESTIMATE, EVERY TWO YEARS. |
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WHATEVER YOU DECIDED. THERE WOULD BE HAVE TO BE A PERIODIC REVIEW AND UPDATING OF THE PLAN AND THAT... |
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WE NEED -- I DON'T WANT TO PURSUE THIS FURTHER, BUT I HAVE OTHER SIMILAR -- OTHER ASPECTS IT IN YOUR... |
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IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR THE WITNESSES AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM A LONG TIME BUT I THINK AS I... |
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SURE. FIRST OF ALL, NOTHING IN THIS, WITH RESPECT TO PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS WE'RE FOCUSING ON... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. |
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BACK TO MR. DEFAZIO. |
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THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU POINT -- I WAS TALKING TO STAFF. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER FOR... |
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CONGRESSMAN, I BELIEVE THE FIGURE WE QUOTE, WE'VE GOT AN INVESTMENT GAP OF ABOUT 140 BILLION, THE... |
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RIGHT. |
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AND ROUGHLY HALF OF THAT, WE ESTIMATE IS REHABILITATION. |
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SO ABOUT 110, ROUGHLY? |
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CORRECT. |
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SO HERE IS THE QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE PUT TO MR. MR. GETTIS, WHO IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS GOING... |
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CONGRESSMAN, I'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT IN OTHER PUBLIC FORA AND I'VE SCRATCHED MY HEAD DOONTD KNOW... |
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AND THERE'S EVEN NEW CAPACITY ISSUES. I WAS GOING TO USE THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE AGAIN. WE HAVE SOMETHING,... |
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CONGRESSMAN, IF I COULD ALSO MENTION, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE MODAL QUESTION AS... |
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THE OAKLAND AIRPORT CONNECTOR, RIGHT. |
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IS THAT A PPP? |
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IT IS. BUT BY IN LARGE, I THINK A LOT OF PUBLIC TRANSIT PROJECTS WILL NOT BE OF THE NATURE THAT THEY... |
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AND MR. WEYRICH, WHEN YOU POINTED OUT, I WAS FASCINATED THAT YOU COULD JUST QUANTIFY THE RETURNS ... |
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WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND ARGUED THE CASE, AS HAS THE HEAD OF THE STREETCAR COALITION, AND THEY ARE... |
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[LAUGHTER] |
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WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD HAVE HIM AS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, BUT DO YOU DO ANALYSIS TO THE... |
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I BELIEVE WE HAVE. |
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I'D LIKE TO GET A LOOK AT THAT. |
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MY COLLEAGUE, BILL LIND, HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY. |
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OKAY. |
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IT'S ALMOST PREDICTABLE TODAY IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF CORRIDOR. NOW, IF YOU DON'T AND YOU'RE... |
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ALL RIGHT. |
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BUT GIVEN THAT YOU'RE SERVING AN AREA THAT PEOPLE WANT TO TRAVERSE, I THINK IT'S FAIRLY PREDICTABLE... |
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SO IT DOESN'T MEET THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. |
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YEAH, EXACTLY. |
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OKAY. JUST ONE OTHER -- AGAIN, I'M SORRY THAT -- BECAUSE I HATE TO PICK ON PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE NOT... |
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IF I MIGHT, CONGRESSMAN. |
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YEAH. |
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IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF NEW YORK, WHICH SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE FIRST OF THE COP GUESTON --... |
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I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC IS ON THERE. |
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MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO NOW DRIVE INTO MANHATTAN ARE DOING SO IN LARGE MEASURE BECAUSE EITHER THEY... |
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I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUMMATION AND I WOULD GO ON TO OBSERVE THERE IS SOME -- BOTH YOU, THE... |
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AND I HAVE MADE AN OBSERVATION, CONGRESSMAN. WE ALREADY HAVE CONGESTION PRICING IN MANHATTAN. YOU... |
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THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. |
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ONE OTHER -- COULD I ADD A POINT ON THE CONGESTION PRICE SOMETHING BECAUSE ON THE CONGESTION PRICING,... |
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I DIDN'T -- I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. |
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THEN I'LL GO. |
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DID YOU SAY MY CITY OF |
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I'M FROM THAT AREA. |
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PARENTHETICALLY, I HAVE THREE PRECOASHOUS -- PRECOCIOUS GRANDDAUGHTERS IN KENASHA AND I'VE SEEN THE... |
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AND YOU KNOW HOW LITTLE |
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YES. |
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IT WAS UNDER $4 MILLION A MILE. AND YOU GET THESE GRANDIOSE SYSTEMS, 20 MILLION, 40 MILLION A MILE... |
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EXACTLY. EXACTLY. IT'S MARVELOUS. ONE OF THE GREATEST DISSERVICES THAT WAS DONE TO TRANSPORTATION... |
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IF I -- |
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WHERE IT WAS WORKED OVERNIGHT AND DROPPED OFF VERY EFFICIENTLY. THEN THE RAILROAD CONVINCED THE POSTAL... |
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AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS OCCURRING, 1967 -- |
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EXACTLY. |
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-- I WAS WORKING FOR THE LATE SENATOR GORDON ALLETTE OF COLORADO, AND WE ASKED FOR A GAO INVESTIGATION... |
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ALL RIGHTco. VERY KEEN OBSERVATION. VERY SAD CHAPTER IN THE HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE LEGION... |
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I THINK WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES STUDY WORK, ADDITIONAL... |
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ISnr IT A CONSENSUS AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE VMT IS A LONG-TERM, VIABLE,co RESPONSIBLE SUBSTITUTE,... |
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I THINK IT IS. IT MAY BE -- FROM THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY RESERVATIONS, BUT DOY... |
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AND WEIGHT CARRIED ON THE ROAD SURFACE, IS THERE SORT OF A THRESHOLD BELOW WHICH YOU DON'T -- YOU... |
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YOU CERTAINLY COULD. YOU COULD STRUCTURE THIS ANY WAY YOU WANTED. IT WAS BEING ENVISIONED THAT SIMILAR... |
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IS THERE ADDITIONAL BACKUP MATERIAL TO THIS SECTION IN ELECTRONIC FORM THAT YOU'LL BE -- |
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WE HAVE A VOLUME THREE WHICH IS GOING TO BE A VIRTUAL VOLUME, IF SUSAN IS STILL HERE, AND THAT'S GOING... |
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I HAVE STAFF WHO COULD ACCESS THAT FOR ME. IF I LEARN THE COMPUTER, THEN WHO NEEDS YOU? |
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YES. |
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IF I COULD SPEAK FOR MYSELF, JACK IS ACCURATE THAT WE'VE SIGNED THE REPORT AND SO WE STAND BEHIND THE... |
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WELL, THAT'S A WISE, CAUTIONARY NOTE. MR. MCARDLE? |
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THE WEIGHT ISSUE IS CRITICAL ANDxD CRITICAL FOR THE PASSENGER VEHICLE, AS WELL AS THE TRUCK. WHAT... |
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THAT'S A VERY GOOD OBSERVATION, VERY KEEN OBSERVATION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WEIGHT ON THE ROAD SUR... |
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AND VMT IS A GOOD APPROACH, BUT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE, CAUTIONARY FLAG FOR US, DON'T EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN... |
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FREIGHT MOVEMENT IS CRITICAL, AS YOU HAVE POINTED OUT, TO THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION. YOUR REPORT... |
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CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ON THE EAST COAST AND I95 CORRIDOR ARE LOOKING AT AGGRESSIVELY... |
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ANY OTHERS? |
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PROJECT DELIVERY, I WON'T PROLONG THIS BUT PROJECT DELIVERY IS CRITICAL. I REFERENCED PROVISIONS ON... |
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YES, WE HAVE EXPANDED ON THAT CONCEPT AND AS COMMISSIONER SKANCKE SAID, THIS WAS ONE THAT WAS FOCUSED... |
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WELL, THERE IS MUCH MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT IN YOUR REPORT, AND AS I INDICATED AT THE OUTSET OF THE... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR FOR US TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY AND I CAN... |
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THANK YOU. THE COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED.fa [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] |
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