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WE ARE BACK LIVE WITH TWO CORRESPONDENTS WHO COVER THE U.S. FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE NEWSPAPERS OR NEWS... |
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YEAH. |
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WHY IS THAT? |
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WE HAVE A SPANISH LANGUAGE WIRE AND WE HAVE A SERVICE FOR LATIN AMERICAN PAPERS. |
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ALSO JOINING US, TOBY HARNDEN HARNDEN, THE U.S. EDITOR FOR "THE DAILY TELEGRAPH" OUT OF LONDON. ... |
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IT IS THE LARGEST QUALITY BROAD SHEET NEWSPAPER. WE SELL 900,000 COPIES A DAY IN THE UK. |
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TOBY HARNDEN, ARE PEOPLE IN ENGLAND FOLLOWING OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS? HOW CLOSELY? |
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I THINK AT THE MOMENT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL RACE CLOSER THAN THEY ARE BRITISH... |
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MARCELO RAIMON, ARE YOU GETTING THE SAME TYPE OF INTENSE SCRUTINY? |
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YEAH. PEOPLE IN LATIN AMERICA HAVE NO CHANCE OF THAT. THE INFLUENCE ON LATIN AMERICA IS HUGE. PEOPLE... |
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WE OFTEN MISCHARACTERIZE LATIN AMERICA AS A MONOLITH, AS ONE OPINION. IT IS VERY DIVERSE DOWN THERE.... |
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IT IS VERY DIVERSE. BUT AT THIS MOMENT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A TREND, LIKE A LEFT TREND IN MOST OF THE... |
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ARGENTINA, VENEZUELA, ECUADOR? |
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YEAH. THEY ALL HAVE A LEFT GOING. |
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AT THE SAME TIME, THE PRESIDENT OF BRAZIL AND PRESIDENT BUSH SEEM TO HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.... |
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YEAH. THE BRAZILIAN PRESIDENT IS A VERY SMART PRESIDENT. |
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WHY IS THAT? |
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HE KNOWS HOW TO PLAY. HE IS A WORKER'S PRESIDENT, BUT HE IS ALSO THE PRESIDENT FOR THE INDUSTRIAL... |
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TOBY HARNDEN, WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GORDON BROWN AND PRESIDENT BUSH? |
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WELL, A LITTLE BIT COOLER THAN I THINK THAT OF TONY BLAIR AND GEORGE W. BUSH. I THINK PART OF THAT... |
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SO MANY POLLS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO SAY THAT RESPECT FOR THE U.S. IS DOWN TO RECORD LEVELS.... |
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YEAH. IN LATIN AMERICA, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT WASHINGTON AT THIS MOMENT IS LOATHING THE... |
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HOW IS IT THAT THE U.S. NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT? |
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I THINK IT IS A LACK OF POLITICAL AND DIPLOMAT ATTENTION. AT THIS MOMENT PRESIDENT BUSH IS INTEREST... |
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WHAT KIND OF ATTENTION DO YOU THINK LATIN AMERICA, COUNTRIES, WOULD LIKE TO SEE? |
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SOMETHING ON THE SAME LEVEL, SOMETHING LIKE THE UNITED STATES IS REALLY INTERESTED IN THE NEIGHBOR,... |
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TOBY HARNDEN, WHAT ABOUT THE U.S. RELATIONSHIP WITH EUROPE? WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE CONTINENT.... |
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WELL, IN BRITAIN THE POPULARITY OF THE U.S. HAS DROPPED DOWN TO 51%. I THINK IT'S 83% AROUND THE TIME... |
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DOES THIS ALL GO -- SO IN YOUR VIEW IT DOESN'T ALL GO TO PRESIDENT BUSH? |
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ANTI-AMERICANISM OR SKEPTICISM ABOUT AMERICA'S ROLE AND DISCOMFORT WITH AMERICA'S POSITION IN THE... |
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GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE "WASHINGTON JOURNAL." THIS IS ROUNDTABLE WITH TOBY HARNDEN OF THE... |
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HELLO. THANKS. TO THE ENGLISHMAN. I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T QUITE CATCH YOUR NAMES. |
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TOBY HARNDEN. |
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TOBY. DO THE ENGLISH PEOPLE OR PEOPLE OF EUROPE KNOW THAT BRZEZINSKI WARNED THERE WAS NO WEAPONS OF... |
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THE IRAQ WAR. BRZEZINSKI, PEOPLE ARE CERTAINLY AWARE OF HIM. I THINK PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY MORE AWARE... |
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MARCELO RAIMON, IS PRESIDENT BUSH THE FOCUS OF ANTI-AMERICANISM IN LATIN AMERICA? |
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YEAH. BUT THE REASON IS IRAQ. AND ALL THE DECEIVING ABOUT THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. I MEAN,... |
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS YET IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" THIS MORNING, U.S. PUSHED ALLIED ON... |
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HE IS OF THE RIGHT. HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S WRITING ABOUT. THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU TREAT YOUR FRIENDS.... |
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VIRGIN ISLANDS, GOOD MORNING. |
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GOOD MORNING, HAPPY EASTER. I AM FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. I'M A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN. I CONSIDER... |
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I THINK IT IS MORE OR LESS LIKE HERE. PEOPLE IN LATIN AMERICA ARE VERY INTERESTED IN A NEW FIGURE... |
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YEAH, I'D SAY IT'S LIKE HERE, EXCEPT MORE SO. TREMENDOUS INTEREST IN BARACK OBAMA IN PARTICULAR. ... |
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MARCELO RAIMON, YOU WERE NODDING YOUR HEAD. |
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THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. I WAS THINKING PEOPLE IN LATIN AMERICA, WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY.... |
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WHAT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON OR JOHN McCAIN? ARE THEY GENERATING ANY EXCITEMENT? |
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PEOPLE DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT JOHN McCAIN BUT WE ARE CATCHING UP. WE ARE WRITING A LOT ABOUT THAT.... |
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WAS BILL CLINTON POPULAR WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT IN LATIN AMERICA? |
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YEAH, HE WAS. |
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES MY JOB EEASY, ALL THREE OF THE CANDIDATES IN THE RACE AT THE MOMENT,... |
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JOHN McCAIN WAS JUST IN LONDON. DIDN'T HE MEET WITH PRIME MINISTER BROWN? |
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YES, HE DID. AND HE MET WITH DAVID CAMERON, THE OPPOSITION LEADER. |
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HOW DID THOSE MEETINGS GO? |
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I THINK THEY WENT WELL. IT WAS A GOOD VISIT FOR McCAIN. HE WAS ABLE TO PORTRAY HIMSELF, AS HE IS,... |
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NEW ORLEANS, DEMOCRAT, GOOD MORNING. |
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GOOD MORNING. HAPPY EASTER TO EVERYBODY AND THE TWO GENTLEMEN, THE FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS, SINCE YOU... |
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MARCELO RAIMON? |
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I LOVE TO WRITE ABOUT HILLARY, TOO. IT'S GREAT TO WRITE ABOUT. I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE JOB.... |
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HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE AS A MEMBER OF THE FOREIGN PRESS TO INTERVIEW OR GO ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL? |
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YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT McCAIN BEING IN LONDON, I WANTED TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.... |
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN BASED IN WASHINGTON? |
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EIGHT YEARS. |
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HOW IS PRESIDENT BUSH -- THE NEW PRESIDENT DOING IN ARGENTINA? |
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THE NEW LADY? YEAH. OKAY. THE FEELING IS THAT THEY'RE KIND OF EXCITED, OKAY. BUT THERE ARE LIKE SOME... |
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DOES SHE TEND TO FOLLOW HUGO CHAVEZ IN THE ANTI-AMERICANISM? |
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IT'S LIKE EVERY PERSON IN SOUTH AMERICA, THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE CHAVEZ IDEAS. ARGENTINA WAS ALWAYS... |
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NEXT CALLER. |
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I WANTED TO MENTION TWO THINGS ON THE RACE AND THE PERCEPTION HERE IN FALLS. THERE IS A BIG -- LOT... |
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EXACTLY. |
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NOW ARE YOU AN AMERICAN LIVING IN FRANCE? |
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OF COURSE. |
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN OVER THERE? |
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SINCE 2000. |
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HOW LONG WILL YOU BE |
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I BOUGHT MY HOUSE HERE. I'M THROUGH. OF COURSE I'M AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IN THIS... |
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WHAT DO YOU DO IN PARIS? |
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I'M A MUSICIAN, ARTIST. I'VE BEEN HERE -- BUT I TRAVEL ALL OVER. FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, JUST RETURNED... |
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FINALLY, CALLER, HOW ARE YOU WATCHING C-SPAN? |
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ON C-SPAN.ORG. ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR 20 YEARS. ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. |
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THANKS. TOBY HARNDEN. |
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YEAH. VERY INTERESTING, JOHN McCAIN. I THINK WHEN SARKOZY WAS ELECTED REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY TOOK SOME... |
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DOES IT HELP HILLARY CLINTON THAT BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT? |
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I'VE WRITTEN A LOT ABOUT THIS. I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER PEOPLE TO EXPRESS A GREAT DEAL OF... |
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SAME QUESTION. |
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FOR ME, THAT'S -- THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG AMERICAN POLITICS ISSUES FOR ME. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE HATE... |
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BUTLER, PENNSYLVANIA, REPUBLICAN, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. |
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YES, GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU BOTH SEEM TO BE OBVIOUSLY ENGAGED... |
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THANK YOU, CALLER. MARCELO, RAIMON. |
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WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER MYSTERY. BECAUSE OBAMA IS I THINK THE WHOLE GOOD THING WITH OBAMA IS THAT HE'S... |
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WELL, I THINK THE FIRST CONCRETE THING THAT HE'LL DO IS ANNOUNCE A WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ. AND THAT... |
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THE PRESIDENT SAID EVERYTHING LOOKS MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. SO I THINK WE HAVE... |
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SOME INTERESTING COMMENTS FROM THE FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR WHO RESIGNED SHORTLY AFTER FOR DIFFERENT... |
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MOUNT POCONO, PENNSYLVANIA, GOOD MORNING. |
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GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FIRST. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THE AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA LIED... |
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YOUR PERCEPTIONS OF THE AMERICAN PRESS. TOBY HARNDEN. |
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THERE IS A KIND OF CONCEIT IN EUROPE AND IN BRITAIN THAT THE AMERICAN PRESS IS SORT OF LAPDOGS TO... |
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IN LATIN AMERICA WE FEEL LIKE IT IS A BIG NAME, BIG PAPERS. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING -- IF YOU WRITE... |
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ONE THING ABOUT AMERICAN REPORTING, OR AMERICAN JOURNALISM, IS THAT IT'S SEEN AS KIND OF A PROFESSION,... |
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NEXT CALL FOR OUR GUESTS, CLEVELAND, OHIO, REPUBLICAN. CLEVELAND. SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, DEMOCRATS.... |
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YEAH, HI, PETER. I'M FROM GERMANY. AND GERMANY AND IN FRANCE, MY FRIENDS ALL WANT OBAMA. I WANT ALL... |
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STRONG OPINION THERE. PORTLAND, OREGON, GOOD MORNING. PORTLAND, YOU WITH US? |
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IT'S ACTUALLY PORTLAND, MAINE. |
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GO AHEAD, PORTLAND, MAINE. |
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I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT AMERICA'S REPUTATION ABROAD. THAT WAS... |
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MARCELO, RAIMON, HAVE YOU WRITTEN ABOUT THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT? |
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YEAH, OF COURSE. |
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WHAT DID YOU WRITE? |
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I WROTE ABOUT ALL THE COMMENTS HE MADE ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE SPEECH SENATOR OBAMA MADE. IT IS A VERY,... |
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YOU PERCEIVE IS AS |
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YEAH. IT IS MORE CONCRETE. IT IS EVERYWHERE AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. I THINK... |
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WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT? |
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YOU TALK IN AN ACADEMIC WAY, JOURNALISTIC WAY, BUT YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT RACE LIKE A VEHICLE. YOU'RE... |
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SILVER BULLET? |
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YEAH. NOW EVERYTHING GOING TO BE OKAY BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A BLACK PERSON AS A PRESIDENT. I THINK... |
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YEAH. I THINK TO SOME EXTENT SHE WAS RIGHT. SORRY FOR SAYING THAT, BUT BARACK OBAMA SAID -- IS A... |
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TOBY HARNDEN, HOW DOES IN YOUR PERCEPTION RACE RELATIONS HERE IN THE STATES COMPARE TO THOSE IN EUROPE?... |
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IT'S DIFFERENT. THIS LEGACY OF SEGREGATION WHICH IS VERY, VERY RECENT. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT... |
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HOW WOULD YOU SAY RACE RELATIONS ARE IN ENGLAND COMPARED TO HERE? |
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WELL, HERE IN THE UNITED STATES THE BLACK VOTE, AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE, OR BLACK POLITICIANS ARE MUCH... |
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LINCOLN, MISSOURI, INPENT LINE, THANKS FOR HOLDING. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. |
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YEAH. I GOT TWO QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ASK. THE WORLD WATCHED US IMPEACH NIXON. THEY SEEN CLINTON... |
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WELL, ONYXEN AND CLINTON AND BUSH-CHENEY, I THINK THE OVERWHELMING FEELING IN THE UK CERTAINLY AND... |
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MARCELO, RAIMON, WHAT ABOUT THE TERRORISM STORY? |
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WELL, IT'S PART OF THE SAME PACKAGE, THE LACK OF CREDIBILITY OF THE UNITED STATES IN LATIN AMERICA.... |
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WHEN YOU READ PAPERS HERE DO YOU THINK HUGO CHAVEZ IS COVERED FAIRLY? |
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I AM NOT SURE IF THE AMERICAN PAPERS HAVE A REAL WHOLE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENS IN LATIN AMERICA.... |
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CHERRY BOTTOM, TENNESSEE, GOOD MORNING, REPUBLICAN. |
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THESE TWO SOUND LIKE THEY'VE BEEN GOING TO REVEREND WRIGHT'S CHURCH FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. LISTENING... |
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MARCELO RAIMON. |
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WELL, THAT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE. YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S LIKE A SCHIZOPHRENIC THING HERE. THE... |
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FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T DESPISE THE U STATE AND I THINK MOST BRITISH PEOPLE DON'T. BUT THERE IS AN IMPORTANT... |
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I THINK THAT THE AMERICANS DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP THEY HAVE REALLY WITH THE REST... |
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I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF ENVY OF THE UNITED STATES AROUND THE WORLD AS WELL. I MEAN A LOT OF COUNTRIES... |
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BAHAMAS, YOU ARE ON. GO AHEAD, BAHAMAS. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. |
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HELLO, GOOD MORNING. HAPPY EASTER TO YOU. |
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YOU, TOO. |
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IT'S VERY EXCITING THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. I MEAN I'M 65, AND I'VE NEVER KNOWN SUCH ACTIVITY,... |
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO HOLLY, MICHIGAN, DEMOCRAT. |
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HI. YOU KNOW, I'M SO TIRED OF PEOPLE KNOCKING DOWN HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE OF BILL. NOW WHEN GEORGE... |
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TOBY HARNDEN, IS THERE ANY SHOW IN ENGLAND THAT COULD BE COMPARED TO THIS WHERE YOU HAVE A NATIONAL... |
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WELL, I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY RECENT YEARS OVER HERE OR BRIEFLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST SO I'M NOT SURE,... |
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IN LATIN AMERICA, IS THE POLITICS AS LIVELY AND PERSONAL? |
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NO. |
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NO. THE PROCESS IS VERY DIFFERENT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS DEMOCRATIC AS OF HERE. EVERYTHING'S MORE... |
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TIME FOR A COUPLE MORE CALLS. DALLAS, TEXAS. |
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YES, GOOD MORNING, EACH AND ALL. I SUPPOSE THAT MY OPINION IS SOMEWHAT CONTRARIAN AS WELL. I THINK... |
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RESPONSE, GENTLEMEN? |
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I DON'T THINK IT IS -- FOR RESPONSE, IF YOU WANT TO LIVE HERE IN THE STATES ALONE, NOT DOING TRADE... |
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LET ME REPHRASE THIS. DO PEEP IN THE COUNTRIES YOU REPORT TO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE MAJORITY OPINION... |
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IMMIGRATION REALLY, THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE REALLY IS SHOWING SOMETHING NOT VERY GOOD FROM AMERICA AT... |
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I THINK, AGAIN, THERE IS A STEREOTYPE AMERICA IS SORT OF "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY," AND "HIGH NOON,"... |
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RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA. |
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I'M DARRYL ROBINSON. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK AMERICA IS BEING REAL SHALLOW AND PETTY... |
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THANK YOU, CALLER. ONE FINAL CALL FROM HAMILTON, BERMUDA. |
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MORNING, HAPPY EASTER, EVERYONE. THAT PREVIOUS CALLER JUST REALLY STRANGE HOW -- I HEAR SO MUCH THAT... |
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I'M FROM ARGENTINA. |
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FROM WHERE? |
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ARGENTINA. |
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ARGENTINA. NOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOUR THOUGHT ON AMERICA IF WE WERE GOING TO SEND, YOU KNOW, 6... |
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THANK YOU, CALLER. |
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WELL, ARGENTINA HAS JUST A FEW -- A VERY, VERY SMALL POPULATION. AND IT IS A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRATION,... |
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KY JUST SAY I THINK THE POINT ABOUT AMERICA BEING RACIST IS -- IF OBAMA IS NOT ELECTED IS A GOOD ONE.... |
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WE ARE OUT OF TIME. TOBY HARN DERN, MARCELO RAIMON, THANK YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK, GO THROUGH THE... |
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